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00:00.0
1, 2, 3. Ayan. Kamusta kayo dyan? Welcome everyone. Officially number one political podcast in the country. Ayan. Top 100 Singapore. Kamusta kayo dyan? Salamat sa aking co-host Ronald Llamas. Thank you very much sir for joining us. Bawa, nakaset up tayong podcaster.
00:19.7
Magandang hapon Big R. Salamat. Napapadalas yung pag-invita mo sa Small R. Dito sa iyong number one political podcast.
00:31.5
Ayan. Magagalit na naman sa atin. Pero salamat sa iyo. Salamat sa iyo Mark. Lahat ng mga collaborations. I think it's finding its own markets. I'm very very appreciative.
00:42.1
Just to be clear, if you go actually to Spotify dun sa mga politics and news podcast, kasama tayo at saka kasama rin si parang Christian Esguerra dun sa mga popular news and political podcast sa Spotify, among others.
00:55.8
So good job din dun sa ating mga ibang kaibigan who are pushing the envelope of discussion. So alam nyo naman ako, hindi ako masyadong competitive. I'm willing to share the spotlight. I'm just kidding.
01:05.1
But ang target natin Ronald, by next year dapat number one in Asia na tayo. Pang ano na tayo?
01:10.9
Singapore and Hong Kong. Usually mga ganun eh. Singapore and Hong Kong kalaban natin. Kaya natin yan.
01:23.0
Hindi sila kasi matagal na yung ibang podcast nila. Tsaka may full setup sila. So tayo yung medyo third world version. Pero may laban naman tayo sir Ronald kahit ganyan.
01:33.2
May nag-comment nga. Sabi niya, maganda nga na walang edit-edit. Diba yung mga ibang podcast Ronald yung meron music, may cut-off.
01:40.9
Sabi niya parang sa inyo parang nandun lang kami sa Jeepney nakikinig dun sa mga katabi namin nakikimarites. May pagka-authentic daw yung sa atin diba?
01:49.8
Continuous naman tayo. Diba? Parang nag-uu-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u-u.
01:56.5
Number one talaga tayo sa Asia at least, no?
01:58.6
Yung authentic, unedited, unscripted.
02:01.7
Totally wala, wala kami.
02:03.1
Yung background ko, na-blur ko dito.
02:05.0
Napaka-gulo yung likod natin.
02:07.7
Sir Ronald, there's a lot to discuss.
02:10.0
I mean, kailan lang tayo nag-uusap.
02:12.0
Di ba mga five days ago lang, four days ago.
02:13.8
Pero since then, ayan na naman,
02:15.3
ang dami mga updates.
02:16.8
So, naratuwa tayo, nakasama ka namin.
02:18.7
Now, first of all, let's discuss this.
02:21.8
What it looks like, Ronald, no?
02:23.8
First speech by Sarah as functionally an opposition, right?
02:30.2
Like, if you have a disagreement with the president
02:32.7
and kasama ka sa UNITEAM,
02:34.5
why would you go in public and openly question
02:37.0
yung isa sa kanilang mga malalaking polisya ngayon,
02:39.7
which is peace negotiation with the CPP-NPA people?
02:43.6
What is your read on that?
02:44.5
Do you think this is effectively, you know?
02:46.9
I mean, di ba kung UNITEAM talaga,
02:48.5
bakit mo pa ilalabas yan sa public?
02:50.6
Bakit mo openly question?
02:51.6
This is like Lenny Robredo.
02:53.8
Saying something about Duterte policies, right?
02:56.2
It doesn't look like she's part of the administration.
02:58.4
And do you think it's just a matter of time
02:59.8
na paparisign din siya, like Lenny Robredo,
03:01.9
nung kinikwasyon ni Lenny yung drug war ni Digong?
03:07.3
Nakakalungkot na.
03:08.9
Nakakalungkot, Richard.
03:10.4
Dahil just a few days ago,
03:12.3
naghiwalay si Katniel.
03:14.8
Tapos kahapon, eh,
03:17.1
first public disagreement
03:19.7
ni Sarah with President Bongbong,
03:25.0
Kaya yung mga hindi pa naniniwala
03:27.0
na yung UNITEAM ay nawasak na,
03:30.3
eh bakit ito yung solid proof
03:32.9
na hinihintay nila, no?
03:34.7
Kaya ikaw ba hindi ka nalulungkot, no?
03:37.0
Ang daming breakup, no?
03:39.3
alam mo naman, ano.
03:40.8
Pero hindi naman ito surprising, Big R, eh.
03:45.0
Dahil hindi naman ito nangyari in a vacuum.
03:52.0
na may mga quick burn,
03:54.8
Nangyari ito as early as last year.
03:58.1
Itong mga maneuverings,
03:59.8
itong mga disenchantments
04:03.2
sa mga appointments,
04:04.9
itong disenchantments sa speakership,
04:07.5
nagsimulang sumabog
04:09.2
early this year, no?
04:11.5
With the so-called
04:14.4
destabilization against the speaker
04:16.8
na inamin ang speaker
04:20.1
Kahit walang binabanggit
04:24.5
through their own mouth
04:25.8
na ang plotter ay si
04:28.5
si ex-president Arroyo
04:33.6
ng vice president
04:34.5
at nagkaroon tayo
04:35.5
ng tambalus-loss incident.
04:37.7
Sabi ko nga before,
04:39.1
ay what can be worse
04:40.8
than tambalus-loss?
04:42.7
Tambalus-loss will define
04:44.5
the next few years.
04:46.3
Kaya hindi ito masyadong surprising
04:49.7
tambalus-loss incident
04:51.3
which was the most public
04:55.4
not only the cousin,
04:59.0
political operator of the president,
05:02.4
the speaker himself
05:05.5
campaign manager in the midterms
05:07.5
or who could even be
05:09.6
the anointed successor
05:11.9
of the president.
05:13.2
Kung paliniwalaan mo yung mga
05:17.3
Sir Ronald, pwede lumapit ka pa sa
05:19.6
microphone. May mga nagbabash dyan na parang
05:21.6
nasa CR daw yung audio natin.
05:23.5
Alam mo yung mga vloggers,
05:27.5
yung mga DDS vloggers na gano'n sa CR,
05:29.8
yung parang gano'n.
05:30.7
Ilapit mo, ang ganda ng ano,
05:32.1
pag malapit siya sa'yo,
05:33.1
Sir Ronald, gano'n ng quality.
05:34.6
Hindi ko alam, parang malapit dito eh.
05:36.3
Hindi sa akin too eh.
05:37.4
Hindi no, pag malapit ka,
05:42.1
Pwede ka bumaba ng konti siguro
05:43.7
or itaas mo siya.
05:45.9
Kasi ang ganda ng quality
05:46.9
pag malapit na bossing, sayang.
05:48.4
Kasi alam niyo naman,
05:50.8
pag number one podcast,
05:52.0
kailangan natin ng quality,
05:53.5
ngayon medyo conscious na tayo,
05:57.2
Baka mabawasan yung,
05:58.7
mabawasan yung authenticity.
06:01.9
Hindi, kasi ang ganda ng sinisabi mo po,
06:04.2
yung sabi niya ito,
06:07.1
parang nasa loob ng CR Audio.
06:09.9
Kaya may mga live na balawutan
06:13.5
Hindi, ang ganda pa naman sinisabi mo,
06:17.2
bahagi ng community natin yan,
06:19.0
bahagi ng ating spontaneity.
06:20.8
Yung mga nakikikip sa atin,
06:22.5
yung mga nagko-comment.
06:23.9
Hindi yan edited, no?
06:25.6
O yung mga comments na yan.
06:28.1
Wala namang problema na hindi edited.
06:30.3
Huwag nang galing sa CR Audio.
06:33.8
Okay na, okay na.
06:34.8
Hindi na mukhang kaya.
06:35.8
Eh, hindi na mukhang kaya.
06:36.7
Yung mga tambay sa kanto.
06:38.4
Bedroom voice na.
06:40.1
Ito, pwede ng bedroom voice.
06:41.8
Ayan, pwede ng bedroom voice.
06:43.0
Bedroom voice talaga.
06:47.3
So, to continue yung,
06:48.6
to continue yung nasabi ko,
06:50.1
ay hindi naman nangyayari yung vacuum.
06:52.6
We saw it coming, eh.
06:54.1
Especially this past few months.
06:56.8
Pero mahalaga ito.
07:00.0
Dahil ito yung first public disagreement.
07:03.4
Ito yung first public criticism
07:05.5
sa policy ng presidente.
07:08.0
At hindi lang simpleng public.
07:11.7
May binanggit na demonyo, eh.
07:14.6
Yung peace talks is dealing with the devil.
07:18.4
it doesn't put the president in a good light.
07:21.2
Mayroon mo yung presidente nakikipag-usap sa demonyo.
07:25.3
one step na siya sa pagiging demonyo.
07:28.4
Pero sinasabi mo na bobo siya.
07:31.0
Parang sinasabi mo,
07:32.5
Nakikipag-usap dun sa walang kwentang ka.
07:34.4
Parang ganun, eh.
07:35.1
Ang pangit pakinggan, eh.
07:38.5
yung pangayong medyo soft, eh.
07:41.0
Pero yung mas extreme,
07:43.2
e demonyo rin yung presidente.
07:45.0
Nalaki ipag-usap sa kapwa demonyo.
07:47.6
Hindi naman natin ginagatuhan.
07:48.9
Pero hindi naman ganun kalayo
07:50.8
yung ganun klaseng logical flow
07:52.9
nung banat ni Vice President Sarah Duterte
07:56.6
kay President Bongbong Marcos.
07:58.8
At mukhang hindi naman natin kailangan lang gatuhan, eh.
08:01.4
Dahil ang dami na nangyari this year, eh.
08:03.3
From Pambaluslos, diba?
08:06.1
marami sa mga pangyayari.
08:07.5
Hindi naman pwedeng hindi alam ng presidente.
08:10.3
Itong pagtanggal kay GMA as a deputy speaker.
08:15.5
Itong pagtanggal ng hundreds of millions
08:18.7
ng intelligence at saka confidential funds
08:21.1
kay Vice President Sarah Duterte.
08:24.2
Itong mga lumalabas na threats of destabilization
08:28.5
ng coup coming from the chief of staff himself.
08:32.8
And the president, ex-president Duterte,
08:36.5
saying na wala siyang kinalaman dito.
08:39.5
Kinakausap lang niya ang mga retired generals.
08:43.7
wina-warning nga ng gobyerno
08:45.7
about the military and the police.
08:48.7
yung mga ganyan, eh.
08:50.1
Itong sinasabi natin are just
08:53.4
ng mga statements,
08:56.0
na nangyari this past few months.
08:57.9
Pero, ang conclusion mo ay
08:59.4
talagang matagal nang nabiyak yung UNITEAM
09:02.8
at hindi lang nabiyak,
09:05.2
ay nagpa-plano na sila sa isa't isa.
09:08.9
Ang galit ni Vice President Sarah Duterte,
09:13.4
kaya siguro na-trigger
09:14.8
itong pagbalat niya sa peace talks
09:19.2
alleged na pagpayag
09:22.6
na papasukin yung ICC.
09:25.6
Dahil ang laki nung pagbabago
09:27.1
mula sa early this year
09:28.5
na totally sarado
09:31.0
na papasukin ang ICC.
09:33.5
pinag-aaralan nila.
09:35.9
Pinag-aaralan ng gusto
09:39.6
hindi mo kinakailangan
09:42.2
between the lines
09:45.0
kung anong implications
09:47.7
sa pagpasok ng ICC.
09:50.2
Arroyo-Duterte Cup.
09:55.8
wala nang kaplastikan.
09:57.6
usually nangyayari
09:59.6
Sa politiko, diba?
10:00.9
Ito ay diretsuhan na.
10:07.2
Really honest, no?
10:10.4
kung pakikinga mo yung mga
10:11.6
public pronouncements,
10:12.7
wala naman palang away, eh.
10:14.7
Sabi nga ni, ano,
10:15.9
ni ex-president Arroyo,
10:17.7
I remain loyal to the speaker,
10:20.4
I remain loyal to the president,
10:22.7
I remain loyal to the country,
10:27.2
ang taas ng level ng loyalty, no?
10:29.3
Unless titignan mo
10:30.3
yung kanyang track record, no?
10:32.5
Baka naman loyal to the idea
10:34.3
of what a speaker should be,
10:36.2
not necessarily who's occupying.
10:41.0
Well, I would call this
10:43.1
but more like bardagulan.
10:44.3
But speaking of bardagulan,
10:45.1
let's look at the,
10:45.6
ito yung sinabi ni,
10:47.7
Speaker Romualdez,
10:49.9
that's a mouthful, ha?
10:51.6
Dapat yun yung, ano,
10:52.8
I mean, parang tambalos
10:56.2
Dapat meron tayong podcast,
10:57.3
Bardagulan with R&R,
10:59.5
something like that, diba?
11:01.6
Tabasahin natin ito
11:02.5
kay Martin Romualdez.
11:05.9
Bakit kong minimute
11:08.3
Ito, sumagot si ako,
11:09.6
Speaker Ferdinand Martin Romualdez,
11:12.1
Nag-clarify siya na itong
11:13.2
peace negotiations
11:14.0
between the government
11:14.7
of the Philippines
11:15.4
and the National Democratic Front
11:16.7
of the Philippines.
11:18.4
political maneuvering
11:19.6
at papakyot lang,
11:20.5
pero ito ay isang
11:21.1
responsibilidad, no?
11:23.5
to reach kind of a peace
11:24.8
and kind of a stability, no?
11:27.6
national security, no?
11:29.0
Ito yung sinabi niya
11:29.7
ating Speaker of the House,
11:31.7
is more than just
11:33.0
a political maneuver,
11:34.1
it is a moral imperative.
11:37.4
that have long divided
11:40.0
negotiating terms,
11:41.6
we're weaving the fabric
11:42.7
of a peaceful future
11:43.7
for every Filipino.
11:44.7
Medyo maganda yung
11:45.8
speech na yan, ha?
11:50.8
wag kayong magmarites
11:52.9
hindi wag-wag ngayon.
11:54.8
open hearts and minds,
11:56.2
fostering an environment
11:57.1
where peace can flourish.
11:59.2
under President Marcos Jr.,
12:02.2
towards a Philippines
12:02.9
that is not only prosperous
12:04.1
but also harmonious
12:06.6
in its diversity.
12:10.2
mga sinasabi niya.
12:47.7
initially kay Vice President Binay,
12:53.9
Secretary Ging Delez,
12:57.9
at sabi ni Presidente,
12:59.2
i-check mo nga ito
13:03.9
ang peace process.
13:05.9
yung exploratory.
13:10.1
Nag-level up muna kayo.
13:12.2
nagbobuluhan lang kayo.
13:14.7
yung term of reference.
13:19.7
ng peace process.
13:21.2
It's just a process.
13:23.0
Mahabang proseso pa yan.
13:25.7
yung political settlement.
13:29.1
sa peace process.
13:36.1
political settlement.
13:41.8
doon sa exploratory,
13:44.6
pumunta sa Utrecht,
14:02.3
Tayo yung dalawa muna.
14:08.1
O, personal diplomacy.
14:22.0
yung peace process?
14:28.0
Walang preconditions?
14:29.7
Walang preconditions?
14:34.5
Kaya nung pagbalik
14:35.1
ko sa presidente,
14:36.5
ang report ko sa kanya,
14:43.3
mang naging problema
14:48.0
At least yung kausap ko.
14:49.5
At least si Joma,
14:51.0
of the Communist Party,
14:52.2
the main ideologue.
14:53.8
Kaya pagbalik ko ron,
14:55.2
ay sinimula namin,
15:04.7
yung sinisimulan ngayon
15:09.4
at saka dokumento
15:10.4
at saka yung picture taking
15:13.1
assistant to the president,
15:17.8
OPAP head Galvez.
15:20.8
yung mga iba pang
15:30.5
Na dati na naging
15:33.5
National Democratic Front.
15:36.9
ng peace process.
15:39.3
kung ano yung mga
15:43.1
umabot ng mahigit
15:49.3
itong process na ito
15:51.1
ng walang preconditions.
15:54.1
in good faith pareho.
15:56.5
kung may preconditions eh.
15:58.7
At itong process na ito
16:00.5
ay kakalmahin mo,
16:03.5
yung mga pareho mong
16:13.7
nasa gitna ng bakbakan eh.
16:18.3
kamag-anak sa gera.
16:20.5
on the government side,
16:21.8
yan yung mga unang
16:29.9
Communist Party of the Philippines.
16:32.5
yung mga guerillas
16:34.5
yung mga NPA commanders.
16:37.5
na ito yung ating
16:40.7
itong ganitong proseso?
17:01.9
Yan yung kanilang
17:06.0
klaseng skepticism.
17:07.8
Na skepticism pa rin,
17:09.9
meron ng magandang
17:14.7
nandun tayo ngayon
17:15.5
sa proseso na yan.
17:17.3
political settlement.
17:19.0
Malayo pa yun eh.
17:27.1
ay medyo positive.
17:40.5
kaunting pahiwatig
17:41.6
yung military na,
17:43.6
habang nangyayari
17:44.8
yung peace process,
17:48.7
military operations
17:51.7
Wala rin sinasabing
17:54.5
That could be a result
17:55.6
in the medium term.
17:58.8
marami munang mga,
18:02.5
activities na gagawin.
18:04.9
Dito sa first phase.
18:07.6
yung mga phases na yan.
18:11.2
ni Vice President
18:14.1
talking with the devil.
18:16.5
Wala namang inosente
18:19.3
Wala namang inosente
18:23.9
is not with friends,
18:27.5
because you have to deal
18:28.5
with enemies and rivals.
18:29.8
Diplomacy was invented
18:32.0
marites with friends
18:33.0
but to deal with enemies
18:34.1
or rivals and all.
18:36.1
going back to this,
18:37.9
going back to this,
18:38.5
siguro gusto mo maglagay
18:40.6
para hindi ka mapagod
18:41.5
while holding that
18:44.7
hawakan mo na lang.
18:45.4
Baka mapagod ka eh.
18:49.9
yung arms natin dyan.
18:51.9
Masyado naman ako
18:55.3
kahit senior ako.
19:02.6
Baka madole mo kami.
19:04.6
Baka madole mo kami.
19:09.1
We still have fuel
19:10.8
We still have fuel
19:12.8
May tumalayo-layo pa.
19:16.4
ito yung pangalang ko ha.
19:22.4
best possible scenario
19:24.2
given everything?
19:26.0
worst possible scenarios
19:27.3
na dapat i-avoid natin?
19:29.8
what do you think
19:30.3
is the most realistic
19:35.2
negotiation strategy
19:36.4
ng kasulukuyan na
19:41.3
Both sides naman,
19:47.3
Both sides mayroon yan eh.
19:54.0
gustong isabotahe
19:55.1
yung ganitong proseso.
19:57.0
Dahil sa kanilang
19:58.0
sariling experience,
20:02.0
hindi yan monopoly
20:02.8
ng isang side lang.
20:07.5
sa proseso na ito
20:13.2
Yung nagbabalansin
20:15.7
habang nagpo-proceed
20:17.4
yung peace process.
20:20.4
Maraming differences eh.
20:21.8
Ang sinasabi lang
20:22.6
ay itong differences
20:26.2
in a civilized manner.
20:34.2
Because we're all
20:36.6
At parehas naman tayong
20:46.4
unities na pwedeng
20:51.0
unity na wala namang
20:52.3
laman yung unity.
20:54.0
Dito sa peace process,
20:55.2
nagahanap ka talaga
20:59.0
ng ating problema.
21:26.7
present generation
21:41.6
Yun yung sinasabi natin.
21:44.0
Let's go to the meat
21:46.9
ang mga Duterte's
21:54.3
kind of approach.
21:57.4
the Marcos administration
22:02.3
this is not the smartest
22:03.4
way to go forward.
22:11.2
what could they do?
22:18.8
doon sa drug war,
22:20.3
what they're gonna do
22:21.7
also made an adjustment
22:24.6
invested pa nga sila
22:30.9
historical background
22:33.1
ironic for Duterte
22:34.6
what's so friendly
22:35.6
to certain people
22:39.7
replete with that.
22:44.8
in the government,
22:47.1
a major political
22:55.8
a major political
22:57.1
faction or dynasty
23:08.2
the strange thing
23:16.4
na nakipag-alyado
23:20.6
During the campaign,
23:21.8
after the campaign,
23:30.7
hindi ko sinasabing
23:34.3
ideological tendency,
23:41.0
undersecretary positions.
23:46.6
na nag-accommodate
23:49.0
klaseng ideological
23:53.6
sila yung pinakakontra.
23:55.3
Sila yung pinakakontra.
24:10.1
a few months ago.
24:16.0
Sinabi nila yan eh
24:31.2
na sinimula na nila
24:32.7
a few months ago.
24:36.1
intelligence fund
24:38.9
itong congresswoman
24:43.8
umabot na hanggang
24:45.6
Hindi nilalang speaker.
24:50.7
na makikita natin.
24:53.2
ginagawa nila ito
24:54.4
dahil nakita nila
25:09.3
Napapapasuki na ito.
25:12.0
existential issue
25:15.7
Lalo na kung babasahin mo
25:22.7
Davao Death Squad.
25:29.9
si President Duterte
25:37.4
at mismo yung kanyang
25:38.6
anak na vice president.
25:40.3
So very existential
25:41.4
itong issue na ito.
25:43.5
ang kanilang desisyon
25:48.0
in more ways than one.
25:52.4
before we transition
25:53.9
to the next important issue
25:54.9
which is of course
25:55.5
yung bombing in Marawi
25:56.7
and concerns about
25:59.7
religious extremism,
26:02.1
Because ito pa yung
26:02.9
isa pang insurgency
26:04.9
terrorism problem
26:08.3
the exact explanation?
26:09.9
Precisely because
26:11.3
itong mga tog before,
26:13.5
and then nag-fall apart,
26:15.7
yung kanilang attack,
26:17.5
Precisely because
26:18.1
they were together
26:19.9
if it's part defensiveness
26:23.8
yung pagka-breakup nila,
26:35.5
kumpara dun sa mga
26:36.3
ibang elite factions
26:37.1
in the Philippines?
26:39.8
the breakup was better?
26:41.4
they're defensive
26:44.6
actually mention this,
26:46.1
this is their whip,
26:47.2
this is their rallying cry?
26:48.9
This is how they get
26:49.9
the people rallying
26:53.5
it's a mobilization strategy
26:54.9
if I can put it that way.
26:56.9
I think it's all of the above
26:58.4
sa mga sinabi mo,
27:01.6
nagsama sila sa kama.
27:03.7
Nagsama sila sa kama
27:05.8
yung ganyang klaseng
27:12.2
Medyo spicy man siya.
27:13.5
Masyado yung nangyari.
27:31.5
Sinama sa gobyerno.
27:33.1
Nakasama sa kampanya.
27:40.8
future relationship.
27:43.2
ginagamit din nila,
27:44.5
wina-weaponize nila ito,
27:55.8
Mobilization strategy talaga.
28:00.5
may pinanggalingan.
28:01.5
Sabi ko nga kanina,
28:05.8
military at police.
28:31.7
na agitation nila.
28:52.3
It can only happen
28:53.0
in the Philippines.
28:58.4
politiko-politiko,
29:06.7
military and labor union
29:08.0
and all of communists
29:10.5
we can have a long discussion.
29:14.1
because I want us
29:19.0
the terrorist attack,
29:20.3
let's discuss that also.
29:22.6
we still have to get
29:28.1
How did that happen?
29:35.3
yung military ngayon,
29:36.3
hindi yung mga retired,
29:38.6
sa service ngayon,
29:40.5
they're susceptible
29:43.8
the Marks administration
29:45.2
and Martin Romaldes
29:56.2
military groupings
30:00.2
sa chain of command.
30:01.7
At yung chain of command
30:04.7
as commander-in-chief.
30:10.6
at the very least,
30:13.0
yung kanyang ginagawa.
30:19.3
And hindi ako magugulat
30:23.5
within the military.
30:28.5
naman ang gumagawa
30:30.0
Most of the military,
30:34.4
kung sino mananalo.
30:36.0
Pero in this case,
30:37.8
the chain of command
30:40.0
is still holding.
30:44.2
Dahil hindi pa to
30:45.3
ganun ka-fundamental eh.
30:56.3
to be a serious threat
31:01.3
Yeah, on that note,
31:02.4
thank you very much
31:05.5
I mean, I wanted to ask you
31:07.0
you were also part of
31:08.0
negotiations before
31:08.9
but things have changed
31:11.1
Six years of Duterte,
31:12.0
one year of flirtation
31:14.9
and then now you have
31:17.1
just to end on this,
31:19.4
maybe that's the plan, right?
31:20.8
If all of this started
31:23.0
during the father,
31:24.5
want to close this chapter, right?
31:25.8
This is something
31:26.1
that we discussed before.
31:27.1
I mean, who knows?
31:28.2
of the Marko Jr. term,
31:30.0
communist insurgency
31:30.9
the longest running
31:31.8
which can be traced
31:32.6
back to his father, right?
31:35.4
Nagulat nga ako eh.
31:37.1
Nagulat nga ako, Richard,
31:38.2
dahil meron ako narinig
31:43.2
na nagsimula itong
31:45.8
communist insurgency
31:47.0
noong panahon ng tatay.
31:48.8
Tatapusin namin ito
31:50.0
sa panahon ng anak.
31:51.4
Dahil nakita nila
31:52.3
na humihina na eh.
32:00.6
dramatically humina
32:05.4
Kaya ang tingin nila
32:06.2
na kaya itong tapusin.
32:08.7
Kaya nung lumabas
32:10.9
itong peace process,
32:12.0
yung iba nagulat.
32:16.4
according to some generals,
32:19.2
ng peace process.
32:23.0
and negative impulses.
32:25.8
Positive dahil may
32:31.6
ang tingin siguro
32:33.2
eh bakit hindi pa natin
32:35.2
Bakit binigyan pa natin
32:38.6
kung sino magmamanage
32:40.6
negative impulses.
32:41.3
positive impulses
32:42.5
according to their own
32:44.0
political agenda.
32:46.1
It's not just spin, eh.
32:49.6
how they will use
32:52.3
and positive impulses
32:54.1
by this peace process.
32:57.2
thank you very much
32:58.1
Secretary Ronald Llamas
32:59.2
for that very interesting
33:00.4
discussion we had,
33:01.8
on an issue that you're
33:02.7
really familiar with.
33:04.7
thank you for sharing
33:06.3
Now, let's talk about
33:08.3
has to do something
33:10.0
in the next episode.
33:10.9
Maraming salamat.
