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SMNI & DUTERTE CRISIS: NAKAKABAHALA!??
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Okay guys, ito na, live na tayo
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Pag-usapan natin itong mga latest na nangyari
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Ito na, naghanap tayo ng oras dito
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At lahat ng mga kasama natin from iba't ibang kampo ay nandito
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Now today I wanna talk about something na sa tingin ko is underappreciated
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Which is yung mga risk, no?
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Yung mga risk na nangyari ngayon, yung mga developments na nakita natin sa kanina
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Tsaka dun sa mga ibang videos natin, pinag-usapan natin yung ongoing hearings
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Diyan, ukol sa franchise
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At pinag-usapan din natin yung implications, no?
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Tsaka yung dynamics na papunta na tayo dun dyan sa disintegration ng unity, no?
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As we speak, so nag-post tayo ng mga memes, nag-post tayo ng mga iba't ibang ebidensya
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Na as far as the Marcus Duterte unity is concerned, mukhang medyo malabo na yung situation, diba?
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And in fact, since kahapon, lumalakas, no?
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Yung mga calls at saka yung mga kritiko
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Na nagsasabi na siguro panahon na na mag-resign yung ating vice-presidente
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Dahil sa kanyang mga disagreements, no?
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With the president at saka sa kasalukyan ng administration
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Pagdating sa big issues including yung mga peace process negotiations
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So, so now medyo umabot na sa ganitong usapan
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Katulad ang sinabi natin kay Ted Filon kanina umaga
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Yung mga nakinig sa atin dito sa YouTube, among others
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I'm still skeptical na President Marcos Jr. wants a total disintegration of the unity
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Although sa tingin ko, I don't think so
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Functionally, medyo tapos na ang usapan
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Because very risk-averse si President Marcos Jr.
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And I think President Marcos Jr. will try to patch things up
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Or keep things on a kind of an even keel
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Manage competition or manage conflict, if I can put it that way, no?
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Over the holiday season, so that may give some respite
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Give some space for the two camps to bring things together
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But nevertheless, things are moving very, very fast
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Especially dito sa situation ng SMNI
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Pinakulong, no?
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Not one, but I think two anchors ng SMNI
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Especially kasama dyan yung favorite niyong anchor na si Lorraine Badoy
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Medyo na Badoy si Badoy
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Doon ng ibang congressman dyan, diba?
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Nakita nyo naman, mga pinost natin, yung mga back and forth
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Very heated
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Some would even say medyo hostile yung environment
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Doon sa hearings about SMNI
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Which kind of confirms, no?
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Yung isang conversation natin a few days ago
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Noong first hearings of SMNI
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At kasama natin si Mark Gamboa, no?
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Doon sa RRM natin
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I think he correctly mentioned, this is last Friday
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He correctly mentioned na, diba?
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Deligado ng SMNI as things go
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Now, having said that
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Having said that, mga kameta
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Sa aking palagay, medyo nakakabala pa rin yung situation
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Alam ko yung mga iba dyan, natutuwa
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Naglalabas na ng mga popcorn, diba?
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Ah, ito, ito, ito
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Yung mga naglalabas na ng popcorn
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Excited na, yun, alam mo naman
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Germans have a term for it, no?
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They call it
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Schadenfreude, no?
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They call it Schadenfreude
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Meaning, taking joy
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Taking joy in the misery of others
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But
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For me, medyo short-sighted yan
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So, kung ikaw ay
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Ikaw ay
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How should I put it?
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If you care about rule of law, no?
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At kung gusto mo maging
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Tunay na demokrasya ng Pilipinas
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Sa isang, you know, balang isang araw
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You're still gonna be worried about what's happening right now
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Now, katulad ng sinabi natin sa isang tweet natin kanina
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The ABS-CBN and the SMNI cases
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And increasingly, a franchise case in both of them
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So, on the surface, the ABS-CBN and SMNI cases look very similar
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Franchise, in the case of ABS-CBN
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Di sila binigyan ng bagong franchise
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And in the case of SMNI, baka ma-revoke yung kanilang franchise
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So, in a certain technical sense, there are two similar cases
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But
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Pag ina-analyze mo
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There's some big differences there
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To begin with
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As far as ABS-CBN is concerned
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Di ba?
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It's a blue-chip established mainstream media outlet
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And, you know, the leading media outlet for quite a while sa Pilipinas
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It's an internationally recognized media outlet
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Marami siyang napanalo na outletna
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Sa global awards
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And the anchors that have worked there
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The analysts that have worked there
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Yours truly
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You know, a lot of them are recognized as world-class journalists
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And analysts, among others
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So, no offense, but I'm not sure SMNI is in that category
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Kumpara sa ABS-CBN, ah, yung SMNI ay ano, right?
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Just to be very honest about it
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If you just look at the, you know
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Ilan bang napanalo nila ng mga global awards
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Or nominations sa global awards?
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At ano yung bago?
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At ano yung background ng mga kinukuha nilang anchors
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In terms of high-level, world-class journalism, no?
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And others would be even harsher
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And they will say that pagdating naman sa SMNI
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It's not only about credentials
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Because, you know, credentials
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It's one thing to talk about credentials
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But it's another thing to talk about convictions
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Ideological leaning
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Political bias
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And, not to mention, intentions and quality of service, no?
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Some would say that ABS-CBN and SMNI cannot even be put in the same category
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Right?
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They're totally incomparable
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Even though, technically speaking
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More or less, yung issue ngayon is franchise
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You know?
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Franchise in the case of ABS-CBN na hindi binigay sa kanila
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And franchise in the case of SMNI na meron sila pero pwede matanggal
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Now, interestingly, having said that the two are related very much to each other
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On two levels
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Una-una, pag tinignan nyo
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It's hard to imagine the rise of SMNI over the past two or three years
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Without appreciating the decline of ABS-CBN
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In fact, in many ways, the removal of ABS-CBN from the air
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Right?
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Andun sila online
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Sure, even na yan
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And medyo swerte ang ABS-CBN
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Because they were the most forward-looking major media outlets
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They were prepared for going fully online for quite some time
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But nevertheless, yung pagtanggal ng ABS-CBN dun sa airwaves
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Really help to boost alternatives
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Particularly, itong
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Alok
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Punta na
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Punta na
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Punta na
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Punta na
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So, the rise of SMNI and the decline of ABS-CBN
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At least in terms of main airwaves
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The two cannot be separated
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But they're also related in a much more problematic way
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And this is where I'm not saying na I'm siding with SMNI
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But the thing is
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Yung nangyayari ngayon sa SMNI cannot be separated from yung nangyayari sa ABS-CBN
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Alright?
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Because
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What was done to the ABS-CBN
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I'm not saying ABS-CBN was perfect
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We can debate about it
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Whether may mga issues talaga about
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You know, their corporate structures
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About, you know
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You know, all of the issues that were raised about ABS-CBN
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Ewan ko niyo dun sa mga
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Yung mga rants ni Tatay Digon
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Mangina yung mga ganyan sa akin
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Pero
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You know, I've worked in different TV channels
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And I've heard from different sides
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We can have a debate about that
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But
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The thing is
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Yung ABS-CBN, natanggal sila ng franchise
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At the height of the pandemic
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When the environment was heavily securitized
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Ito yung panahon na may lockdowns
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Ito yung mga panahon na pwede ka mas cyber liable
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Kung na-criticize mo yung government
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Ito yung panahon na natatakot ng tao
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On so many levels
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Ito yung mga panahon na hindi makalabas at hindi makaprotest ng tao
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Ito yung panahon na
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You know
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People are feeling very vulnerable
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People are worried about their jobs
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About their safeties
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And most importantly
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Ito yung panahon na may emergency powers
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Ang gobyerno at yung presidente
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So it was really under those extreme circumstances
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That ABS-CBN lost its franchise
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But
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That's one thing, the circumstances
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It's also how ABS-CBN lost the franchise, right?
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So it's not only what is the circumstances
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It's also how
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So kung titignan niyo mga kamayata
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You had the top leaders of ABS-CBN
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People have been in this business for a very long time
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Including the Lopez's
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Including yung CEO
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All of them were there
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And look at yung treatment na nakuha nila sa Kongreso nung time niyan
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Look at the nature of questions
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Look at yung how professionally some people are conducting themselves
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And then you also had cases whereby some people were talking about their own cases
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Oh!
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Last year may report kayo sa akin na hindi ko nagustuhan
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So like some people were wondering whether this is a vendetta situation, right?
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And look at the humiliation that top media corporate officials were subjected to
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Now, again, we can have a long debate about monopolistic practices
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About oligarchic
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Sure, we can have a lot of discussion about that
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But let's not forget
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That it's almost impossible to imagine yung nangyara sa ABS-CBN
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If A, hindi yung ito yung
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Kasagsagan ng pandemic
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And may emergency situation
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And heavily securitized environment
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And B, hindi feeling empowered yung mga ibang legislators
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To interrogate essentially
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And to cross-examine
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And some would even say way more than that
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When it comes dun sa interaction nila sa mga ABS-CBN leaders
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Just watch it yourself mga kameta
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So that you can decide on your own
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Right?
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So in my opinion
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I mean this is not just me
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This is an opinion
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This is a proper analysis of the situation
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Something changed forever in the Philippines after that
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Because for a very very long time
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Ang media po sa Pilipinas ay almost sacrosan
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Right?
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The media was very sacrosan
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And if you look at the Duterte administration
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President Duterte in particular
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He attacked many things that were assumed as too sacred
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To even question or criticize
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To begin with, of course
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Literally on sacred institutions
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Like the Catholic hierarchy
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Right?
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But the media was always also seen as a semi-sacred
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Pillar of Philippine democracy
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You know?
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Third estate, fourth estate, whatever
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And having a free media was always essential to having a healthy democracy
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And in fact it was always our strong media
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That gave this impression that the Philippines is the freest country in Asia
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Right?
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Or at least in South East Asia
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Let's sit next to each other
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Okay
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Okay
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I'm sorry
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Sige po, sige po
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Okay, so
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Let's sit next to each other, kids
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So, for me
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For a very long time
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Parang almost untouchable
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Almost untouchable
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Itong media natin
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Right?
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Very powerful yung media
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I mean, you could see it
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Journalists
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I mean, becoming vice president
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Journalists becoming senators
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Until today
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Journalists, you know
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Interrogating and back and forth
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Going against powerful presidents and officials
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Look at the showdown between Manila Times and Erap Estrada
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Look at how Philippine Daily Inquirer
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Went after Estrada
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Went after Binay
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Went after Marcos
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Of course, Marcos Senior
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That really established Philippine Daily Inquirer as we know it today
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So, for a very long time
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The media was seen as a sacrosan institution
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As a pillar of our democracy
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What happened to ABS-CBN changed that forever
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Changed that forever
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So, now what you're seeing right now is
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With the SMNI
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Of course, sinabi ng iba dyan is
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Well, sinabi ni Ronald Llamas nung kausap natin siya
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Sabi niya, it's poetic justice
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So, I understand why yung iba natutuwa
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Pumapalakpak
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Wow, poetic justice
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Wow, itinga sa akin nila ganyan
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Yung ganyan mindset
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But for me
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This is still
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Medyo alanganin ako dito
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Because
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You now have a situation whereby
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Yung so-called SOTO law
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Let's discuss that quite shortly
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Well, more than shortly
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Parang
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Yung legal protections sa media
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Are coming under assault or question
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Now, we can have a legal debate about this
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But the Supreme
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I mean
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We can have further legal debate about this
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But let me be very clear
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Ano itong SOTO law na ito?
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Hindi ito si Tito SOTO na ngayon
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Pero yung dating SOTO
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So, more than 70 years ago
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Mga kameta
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Almost 75 years ago
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Republic Act No. 53
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Protected journalists from being forced
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Na pangalanan
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Na to name
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Yung kanilang mga confidential sources
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Kasi yun nga eh
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One of the ways
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Journalists
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Especially investigative journalists
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Mga kameta
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Can do their job
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Is if there's a certain degree of confidentiality
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In the same way that
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I don't know
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If you get a lawyer
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You have a therapist
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Whatever
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You need a certain degree of confidentiality
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For that thing to work
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Because maraming tao matatakot
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To openly come out
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And spill the beans
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So, the SOTO law
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Is one of the very foundational laws
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Which has allowed for the Philippines
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To have one of the most vibrant
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Not perfect
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Very imperfect
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But one of the most vibrant
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And freest media anywhere in Asia
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At the very least
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No?
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So, let's read this
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So, actually
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The author of this
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Kaya nga SOTO
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Is Senator Vicente Soto
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Ito yung first ha
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Hindi yung Tito Soto
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Hindi ito yung mga Idbolaga people
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Pwede natin pag-usapan ng Idbolaga
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Separately one day
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Pero ito si ano
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Ito yung the first
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This is the special guy
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This is the grand guy
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And if you remember
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Mga kameta
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Nung sa interview natin
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With Lisandro Claudio
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With Dr. Claudio
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A few months ago
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He was talking about how
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Vico Soto
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Is reportedly going back to the works
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Of his great-grandfather or grandfather
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Itong si first Vicente Soto na yan
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As a source of inspiration for statesmanship
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So, actually
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Senator Vicente Soto
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Ito yung pinaka-original
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Ito yung OG
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Ito yung pinaka-original
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He is a legendary statesman
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That really deserves a lot of respect
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And one of his greatest contributions
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To Philippine democracy
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Was itong tinatawag na
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Soto Law Republic Act No. 53
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Let me just read mga kameta
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Itong Section 1 ng batas na yan
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Which was enacted in 1946
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So, essentially at the inception
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Of the Philippine Republic
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Democratic Republic
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Let's be very clear about that
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So, masahin natin ha
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Kung makinig kayo
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I'll of course post this also sa baba
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Para ma-appreciate nyo ito
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The publisher, editor
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Or duly accredited reporter
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Of any newspaper, magazine
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Or periodical of general circulation
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Cannot be compelled to reveal
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Hindi pwede pilitan
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Ang isang reporter ng isang dyaryo
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Or any duly accredited reporter
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Ng dyaryo, magazine, or periodical
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Ng isang general circulation
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Cannot be compelled to reveal
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The source of any news report or information
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Appearing in said publication
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Which was related in confidence
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To such publisher, editor, or reporter
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Unless, unless
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Of course, there's a caveat there
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The court or a house
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Or a committee of congress
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Finds that such revelation is demanded
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By the interest of the state
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Alright?
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The interest of the state
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Now, obviously
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Key dito yung issue ng interest ng state
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Yung interest ng bayan
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Or in this case, Estado
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To be literal about this
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Now, not long after
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Yung definition of the phrase
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The interest of the state
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Was tested
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When isang newspaper reporter
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Ay si Angel Parrazo
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Angel, sorry Madrid
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Angel Parrazo
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Ay nagsulat na isang news story
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On the alleged leakage
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In some subjects
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Sa bar examination that year
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So, matagal pa yan, no?
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So, the reporter argued that
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The interest of the state
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Used in law
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Should be read to mean
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Security of the state or public safety
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Alright?
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But in ruling in December 1948
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Eto, ruling ng Supreme Court of the Philippines
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Yan, ito yung pinakamataas na
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Korte ng bansa
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Maintaining that integrity of the examination
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Qualified as interest of state
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Ordered Parrazo to disclose the source
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Or sources of information
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For the news item
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Of course, nag-refuse siya
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And he was jailed
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For 30 days
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For contempt
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Nevertheless
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In June 1956
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RA 1477 was passed
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Amending itong section 1 ng batas na yan
20:32.4
So, the controversial phrase
20:33.4
Interest of the state
20:35.4
Pinago ito
20:36.4
Pinalitan ito sa security of the state
20:39.4
Because the term interest
20:40.4
Is a little bit too vague
20:41.4
Too generic
20:42.4
And pwede mo i-stretch yan
20:44.4
In fact, I think the proper term is
20:46.4
Pwede i-weaponize yan
20:49.4
Right?
20:50.4
Or to make it more academic, technical
20:52.4
Pwede yan i-securitize
20:54.4
No?
20:55.4
Was changed to the security of the state
20:56.4
The phrase without prejudice
20:58.4
To his liability under the civil and criminal laws
21:00.4
Was also added to the beginning of the section
21:02.4
So, nagkaroon na amendments na
21:04.4
It shouldn't be prejudiced
21:06.4
To the liability under civil and criminal laws
21:08.4
So, ito yung context
21:10.4
Ng mga kameta
21:11.4
Ng pinag-uusapan natin
21:12.4
Ayun
21:13.4
Wait lang
21:14.4
Check ko lang
21:15.4
Baka late na ako sa ano natin
21:17.4
So, please check this on your own
21:20.4
Ipupost ko yung mga kameta
21:21.4
Para basahin nyo na mabuti
21:22.4
Yung mga kameta
21:23.4
Kasi mahalaga yan
21:24.4
Because what's happening right now
21:26.4
Is may mga nandyan sa Congress
21:27.4
Na nasinisabi
21:28.4
Itong mga
21:29.4
Itong mga
21:31.4
SMNI anchors na kinulong
21:33.4
Over the past 24 hours or so
21:35.4
Hindi sila
21:37.4
Journalist
21:38.4
Kasi hindi sila duly accredited
21:40.4
Base doon sa
21:42.4
Conception natin ng
21:44.4
Accreditation
21:45.4
You know like
21:46.4
What makes you a newspaper
21:47.4
What makes you a
21:48.4
Which raises a bigger question
21:50.4
Because
21:55.4
Medyo mahabang usapan yun
21:57.4
I don't know how to go into this
21:58.4
But my point is
21:59.4
Being a journalist
22:01.4
Sa aking palagay ha
22:03.4
I mean we can have a debate about this
22:05.4
But the moment you work already
22:07.4
For a major media outlet
22:10.4
You're a de facto journalist
22:13.4
And let's not forget that
22:15.4
There are big questions about
22:17.4
Ano ba talaga yung
22:18.4
The organization for accreditation of journalists
22:21.4
Sa aking palagay
22:22.4
The moment you work for something like
22:23.4
The Philippine Daily Inquirer
22:25.4
Like yours truly
22:26.4
Which is the leading newspaper in the country
22:27.4
The newspaper of record
22:29.4
The moment you work for ABS-CBN
22:31.4
Or GMA
22:32.4
Whatever
22:33.4
Yung mga big media networks na yan
22:34.4
Whether kasama ka sa isang organization or not
22:36.4
Sa aking palagay
22:37.4
You already qualify
22:39.4
As a journalist
22:40.4
So I consider myself as a journalist
22:42.4
Not because
22:43.4
I mean
22:44.4
Of course I'm not
22:45.4
Reporter
22:46.4
Or you know
22:47.4
I've not been part of any organization
22:49.4
But I do journalism
22:51.4
Right?
22:52.4
Nagsusulat po tayo dun sa pinakamalaking
22:54.4
Jari or at least
22:55.4
Paper record in the country
22:56.4
And I've been working in the biggest
22:58.4
Television and media networks of the country
23:00.4
Over the past 6 years
23:01.4
From ABS to GMA
23:02.4
And now the other one
23:03.4
The TV5
23:04.4
So for me
23:05.4
That makes you a journalist
23:07.4
Per se
23:08.4
So the idea that
23:09.4
Kung hindi ka lang
23:10.4
Kasama sa
23:12.4
Organization X, Y, and Z
23:14.4
Even though nag-work ka sa isang major mainstream media
23:16.4
Then hindi ka journalist
23:18.4
And therefore
23:19.4
Wala kang protection side lalim ng
23:21.4
Sa ligang batas
23:22.4
Or pwede mag-question yung
23:24.4
Pagiging journalist mo
23:25.4
Medyo
23:26.4
Oof
23:27.4
This could actually set a very dangerous precedence
23:29.4
Diba?
23:30.4
Uhm
23:33.4
Kasi diba
23:34.4
For you to work in a major media outlet
23:36.4
You know
23:37.4
Whether it's a columnist, analyst, etc
23:38.4
Hindi ka required
23:39.4
To
23:40.4
You know
23:41.4
Get accreditation from one body
23:42.4
In fact
23:43.4
Last time I checked
23:44.4
They're like multiple or
23:45.4
Journalism
23:46.4
You know
23:47.4
Reporter's body
23:48.4
Also in the Philippines
23:49.4
And sobrang
23:50.4
All over the place
23:52.4
Yung journalism community
23:54.4
Right?
23:55.4
It's very fragmented
23:56.4
There's no longer single center of gravity
23:59.4
Like before
24:00.4
And the media landscape has
24:01.4
Completely changed
24:02.4
Completely changed
24:03.4
Uhm
24:04.4
Over the past 10, 20 years
24:06.4
Or so pa lang
24:07.4
So
24:08.4
What I'm saying here is
24:09.4
We have to be very careful about
24:12.4
Uh
24:13.4
You know
24:14.4
Kasi alam ko yung iba dyan
24:15.4
Excited lang sila
24:16.4
Kasi galit sila
24:17.4
Pikon sila
24:18.4
Naiinis sila
24:19.4
Or
24:20.4
You know
24:21.4
They have an axe to grind
24:22.4
Yung iba naglalabas ng popcorn, etc
24:23.4
But for me
24:24.4
I understand the short-term joy
24:26.4
Some people are getting
24:27.4
Or schadenfreude
24:28.4
But always
24:29.4
Always keep in mind
24:30.4
That we may set aside
24:31.4
That we may set
24:32.4
Another dangerous precedence here
24:34.4
Diba?
24:35.4
Kaya kung maalala niyo mga kamay
24:36.4
Nung nakausap natin si
24:37.4
Justice Carpio
24:38.4
Uh
24:39.4
Few
24:40.4
Uh weeks
24:41.4
Uh few
24:42.4
Well the other month
24:43.4
Pinag-usapan naman yung issue ng
24:45.4
Yung mga pro-China propagandist
24:47.4
Diba?
24:48.4
At sabi ko
24:49.4
Eh yung iba parang binababoy nila
24:50.4
Yung ating demokrasya
24:51.4
Para
24:52.4
Para supportahan yung position
24:54.4
Ng kalaban natin sa West Philippine Sea
24:56.4
Hindi ba kailangan na
24:57.4
Magkakaroon tayo ng mga batas
24:58.4
Kung saan pipilitin yung mga
25:00.4
Iba dyan
25:01.4
Na maging tapat
25:02.4
Kung talagang
25:03.4
Ano sila bayaran sila
25:04.4
Di
25:05.4
Ano
25:06.4
I-declare nila na foreign agent sila
25:07.4
Then they can legally continue what they're doing
25:09.4
Pero at least transparent yung situation
25:10.4
Pero nalala nyo yung sinabi ni Justice Carpio
25:12.4
Na that's the dangerous
25:13.4
Kung mga precedence eh
25:14.4
Kasi
25:15.4
Ngayon
25:16.4
Wala tayong problema dyan
25:17.4
Pero paano kung sa future
25:18.4
May mananalala naman ng pro-China president
25:21.4
Pwedeng gamitin yan
25:22.4
Sabi niya
25:23.4
Oh ikaw pro-US ka
25:24.4
Or pro I don't know Japan ka
25:25.4
Tapos pwede gamitin sa iyo
25:26.4
So yung precedence is very important mga kumeta
25:29.4
For me
25:30.4
An important glass ceiling was already shattered
25:34.4
Nung ginawa nila yung ginawa nila sa ABS-CBN
25:38.4
At
25:40.4
At para sa akin
25:41.4
If hindi nangyari yun
25:42.4
I don't think mangyayari ngayon
25:44.4
Yung nangyayari sa SMNI
25:45.4
Now
25:46.4
Pwedeng sabihin nung mga iba
25:47.4
Oh poetic justice yan
25:49.4
In a way diba
25:50.4
Connect the dots
25:51.4
Alam nyo na
25:52.4
But for me
25:53.4
That's a kind of short-sighted
25:55.4
Almost
25:56.4
Pu-rile
25:58.4
Schadenfreude
26:00.4
Right
26:01.4
Because yun nga eh
26:02.4
In the future
26:03.4
Okay malay natin
26:04.4
Okay sabihin natin ganito ah
26:06.4
I'll push it to its logical conclusion
26:08.4
Sabihin natin okay
26:09.4
In the next six months
26:10.4
Ma matanggal talaga ng mga SMNI
26:12.4
Duterte lahat na yan sa eksena
26:14.4
And then anong mangyari
26:15.4
What happens the next day
26:16.4
Sa tingin niyo happy na everything
26:18.4
Hindi eh
26:20.4
Not necessarily
26:21.4
Right
26:22.4
So kaya nga
26:23.4
What I'm saying is at the very least
26:24.4
Watch very carefully what's happening right now
26:26.4
Because we might end up setting another precedence
26:28.4
Which can later on come to haunt people
26:31.4
Right
26:32.4
Nevertheless
26:33.4
I don't want to be prejudicial
26:34.4
Dun sa content ng diskusyon
26:36.4
Dun sa loob ng kongreso ngayon
26:39.4
I'm still willing to listen
26:40.4
I'm still looking at the arguments of different congressmen
26:43.4
Some of them saying that
26:45.4
Hindi eh hindi applicable ang SOTO law dito
26:47.4
But nevertheless
26:48.4
We have to watch very carefully
26:50.4
Kung hindi
26:51.4
Para siguraduin na hindi niya maweaponize
26:53.4
No?
26:54.4
Ang
26:55.4
You know
26:56.4
Ang
26:57.4
Ang certain interpretation of SOTO law
27:00.4
Or maweaponize yung
27:02.4
Invocation of exemption from the SOTO law
27:04.4
This is very very important
27:06.4
Mga kamenta
27:07.4
And I'm not saying this because I'm a person who happens to work in a major media outlet
27:11.4
Or two rather
27:12.4
But I'm saying as someone who's actually looking at the rule of law
27:15.4
And rule of law means
27:17.4
Predictable and uniform applicability of law across time and space
27:21.4
Alright let's be very clear about it
27:22.4
Rule of law doesn't mean na
27:23.4
Kung anong sinabi nung isang gobyerno
27:26.4
Pagdating sa interpretation nila sa batas
27:28.4
That's not rule of law
27:29.4
That's rule by law
27:30.4
The proposition is very important there
27:32.4
A rule of law situation is across time and space
27:35.4
And different administration
27:36.4
There's a uniformity and predictability
27:38.4
In application of law
27:40.4
And more or less
27:41.4
You don't do mumbo jumbo interpretation
27:43.4
Based on who's holding the throne
27:46.4
Right?
27:47.4
So that's why mga kamenta
27:48.4
Alam ko yung iba sa inyo
27:50.4
Poetic justice yung thing nyo
27:52.4
Natatawa kayo
27:53.4
Naglalabas kayo ng popcorn
27:54.4
But be very careful
27:55.4
But be very very careful
27:57.4
Because remember
27:58.4
Not long ago
28:00.4
Nagpa-popcorn yung iba dyan
28:02.4
Nung tinatanggal yung franchise ng ABS-CBN
28:05.4
O nasan sila ngayon?
28:06.4
Nung sinasabi nung iba is
28:08.4
Bilog ang mundo
28:09.4
Yes but at the same time
28:11.4
Minsan precedence is also important
28:13.4
Bilog ang mundo maybe for
28:15.4
You know you could argue that
28:16.4
Yes bilog ang mundo dun sa mga nag-abuso
28:18.4
Pero minsan bilog din ang mundo
28:20.4
Para dun sa mga hindi masamang tao
28:23.4
Tignan mo yung nangyari kay Layla dyan?
28:25.4
Tignan mo yung nangyari sa
28:27.4
Maraming kaibigan natin sa journalism
28:29.4
Right?
28:30.4
Walang perfecto
28:31.4
But these are good people
28:32.4
Right?
28:33.4
And what was done to them was unjust
28:35.4
It's very very important mga kamenta
28:37.4
To look at what's happening right now
28:39.4
And making sure na hindi magkakaroon ng
28:41.4
Isa pang problematic precedence
28:43.4
Because even if sabihin natin
28:45.4
Things go down to their logical conclusion
28:48.4
At matanggal ng mga Dutertes
28:50.4
Mawala talaga ng UNITEAM
28:51.4
At matanggal ng SMNI
28:53.4
The question is what's gonna happen the day after?
28:55.4
Or the year after?
28:57.4
Or what about isang pang presidente
28:59.4
Mananalo in 2028
29:01.4
Na sobrang authoritarian ulit
29:03.4
Or populist
29:04.4
At pwedeng gamitin itong mga nangyari ngayon
29:06.4
Para i-silence ang media
29:08.4
Even worse than that
29:10.4
Baka nga maraming mga journalist
29:12.4
Or media man dyan
29:13.4
Ay magdadalaw ang isip na forever
29:15.4
Magsa-self-censor na sila
29:17.4
Mag-worry na sila
29:18.4
Because nakikita nila
29:19.4
O itong ginawa sa IBC men
29:20.4
Itong ginawa sa SMNI
29:21.4
Baka naman diba?
29:22.4
Magingatan tayo
29:23.4
So that
29:24.4
That inherently
29:25.4
Undermines the fundamentals of our democracy
29:28.4
Right?
29:29.4
So, let's watch
29:30.4
Yes, I know
29:31.4
Excited din yung iba
29:32.4
Nagpa-popcorn na yung iba
29:33.4
Schadenfreude din yung iba
29:34.4
But do not forget mga kameta
29:36.4
We cannot have a real democracy
29:38.4
Until we have real rule of law
29:40.4
And that's why it's very important
29:41.4
You don't have to be a lawyer
29:42.4
You don't have to be a constitutional law expert
29:44.4
You don't have to be a legislator
29:45.4
You don't have to be an official
29:47.4
For you to care about
29:48.4
How law is applied in this country
29:50.4
And what interpretation of law is applied
29:53.4
Across time and space
29:54.4
And administrations
29:55.4
Otherwise, banana republic tayo
29:57.4
I'm not saying that's our case
29:58.4
But I'm saying we have to make sure
29:59.4
We don't become a banana republic
30:01.4
But instead we become a nation of rule of law
30:03.4
On that note
30:04.4
Thank you very much mga kameta
30:05.4
Kailangan ko na tumakbo
30:07.4
I really appreciate this discussion
30:09.4
Salamat sa lahat ng mga naka-comment dyan
30:11.4
Sa mga supporta dyan
30:12.4
This is
30:13.4
Medyo pagod na tayo
30:14.4
Ang dami nating ginagawa
30:15.4
Pang-ilan na na natin yan
30:17.4
Live natin today pa lang
30:20.4
And
30:21.4
Yeah, these are intense moments
30:22.4
Mga kameta
30:23.4
So
30:24.4
Alam niyo naman
30:25.4
May kanchawan ako
30:26.4
Natatawa ako
30:27.4
Etc
30:28.4
Nagpapatawa tayo
30:29.4
But
30:30.4
These are
30:31.4
But I'm a very serious guy
30:32.4
I'm also looking at the
30:33.4
Day after
30:34.4
Diba?
30:35.4
That's what leadership is all about
30:37.4
That's what critical thinking is about
30:39.4
You're not only looking at
30:40.4
What happiness you're getting now
30:41.4
Or what sadness you're getting now
30:43.4
You're looking at the
30:44.4
Long-term horizon
30:45.4
Because that's the best way
30:46.4
We can care about our democracy
30:47.4
In the country
30:48.4
So best wishes sa ating mga congressman
30:50.4
As they try to examine
30:51.4
What's happening here
30:52.4
Because if indeed
30:53.4
There has been a clear abuse
30:55.4
Of you know
30:56.4
Journalistic prerogative
30:58.4
And clear abuse
31:00.4
Of yung franchise na binigay
31:01.4
Sa isang media outlet
31:03.4
Then indeed
31:04.4
There should be a basis
31:05.4
For re-examining that franchise
31:07.4
So I'm not against
31:08.4
Re-examine the franchise
31:09.4
But we have to make sure
31:10.4
That this is in accordance
31:11.4
To rule of law
31:12.4
Yun po yung sinasabi natin
31:14.4
So whether you feel good
31:15.4
Or bad about it
31:16.4
That should be secondary
31:17.4
It's the rule of law
31:18.4
Which is the most important one
31:20.4
On that note
31:21.4
Thank you very much
31:22.4
Mga kameta
31:23.4
Ayan
31:24.4
Natutuwa yung mga kat-DDS natin
31:25.4
Mga lalaki yung mga followers
31:26.4
Natin ng DDS igla
31:27.4
Joke lang
31:28.4
On that note
31:29.4
Thank you very much
31:30.4
Mga kameta
31:31.4
Talk to you soon
31:32.4
And God bless
31:33.4
And God bless the Philippines
31:35.4
Yes
31:36.4
Naihirapan ang bansa natin
31:37.4
But we have to do our best
31:38.4
To make sure our democracy
31:40.4
Will survive
31:41.4
And hopefully thrive
31:42.4
Down the road
31:43.4
With or without unity
31:44.4
But most likely
31:45.4
Mukhang wala ng unity
31:48.4
Thank you very much guys
31:49.4
And talk to you soon
31:50.4
Salamat ha
31:51.4
Pasensya na kung hindi ko
31:52.4
Nakakaayos yung audio dito
31:53.4
Hopefully next night will be
31:54.4
But hindi ko nakahanap
31:55.4
Sana hindi nakahulog
31:56.4
I hope hindi nakahulog
31:57.4
Yung wiring system natin
31:58.4
Salamat God bless
31:59.4
Talk to you soon


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