Road to M5 ft. Wolf | Road to M5 Ep. 9 (Final Episode)
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Ako, Naisu, yun na yan.
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It's almost here, right? Just a couple days away.
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But again, every episode.
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If you guys are not familiar here, we feature a different region alongside a different guest to talk about that region.
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Our last episode, if you have not seen it yet, we were with Coach Lyric with Triple E Sports
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talking about the journey for MENA.
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I'm sure a lot of you guys have seen also MENA from the wildcard as well.
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Now, today, we have a special guest with us, a very familiar guest, man, Gene.
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Can you go ahead? Welcome him in.
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For this episode ng ating podcast,
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super special, the final stop on our road to M5.
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We're finally going to the Philippines.
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Hindi na nosebleed toh.
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May hindi na kailangan ni-translate.
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Hindi na kailangan ni-translate.
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The host country for the home of the back-to-back-to-back world champions is here.
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And we're going to talk about the Philippines.
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Well-known analyst and ang well-known richest man in all of the eSports MLBB casters.
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Ladies and gentlemen, Wolf!
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Can I just say na napakalapit ng intro niyo na medyo na-pressure ako kasi parang ano yung last stop?
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Taglish kasi kami.
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to everyone out there listening,
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don't listen to my engine
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because I'm surrounded.
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I'm actually literally surrounded including our producer
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by the most paldo people around.
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thank you so much for the intro
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and hello to all the viewers out there.
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Wolf's the richest.
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Great to have you, Wolf.
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and a great intro, man, Gene.
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Now, I know we're all excited.
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We're excited here because the M5 main event is just days away.
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And I gotta say, you know, after coming from the wildcard as well, Wolf and Manjean,
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I know you guys probably have insights on this, but we are now complete.
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The 16 teams for M5 are now complete.
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We have all our representatives.
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And I think things got sorted out too because, you know, there were some things going on in the air.
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But I think it's established who all the 16 teams are.
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So, Wolf, I have to go ahead and just ask you this right off the bat.
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initial impressions, basically.
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How do you think our teams here in the Philippines, AP Brennan, Blacklist International, will fare against these other 14 teams?
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I think, no, I'll be direct.
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There's no sugarcoating.
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I feel like I'm speaking as an analyst for M5 and not just only being a Filipino.
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I think the Filipino teams have a higher chance of winning this tournament.
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I think that they're championship contenders, especially
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after seeing AP Brennan and Blacklist International play
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nung playoffs natin,
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kumpara dun sa mga playoff runs
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ng ibang mga teams natin for M5,
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they are very strong contenders.
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So, easily top 3.
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Nasa top 3 yung dalawang teams natin.
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So, ibig sabihin, sure win.
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Walang alam bias.
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Sa lista ka ng mga posibleng nating makalaban,
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sino-sino ba ang mga posibleng maging banta sa pagdepensa ng Pilipinas?
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Iname mo. Rekta agad.
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Diretso na tayo, no?
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Nandun ang malapit na Raja Yeba Lead Squad.
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At nandun din si Kyrie.
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strongest yung Onik ngayon.
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Kung usapang init.
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Kung usapang ilo.
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Kasi hindi sila nagpakita ng recent tournament natin,
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International EPL.
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hindi buhabay yung rank nila.
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Kasi alam mo yun,
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pag nag-rank ka, di ba?
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Tapos di ka naglaro,
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hindi buhabay yung stars mo.
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So, basically, sila yung pinakamataas na stars ngayon.
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But, kidding aside,
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sila yung biggest contender.
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ito yung, siguro,
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diretsyo na ako sa pinaka-dark horse.
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Dalawa yung nakikita ko,
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Oo, sila bad gal.
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excited, the dark horse.
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And, of course, yung homeboys.
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May init ang mga salitang binitawan ni Mr. Zorn.
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he has to walk the talk, kumbaga.
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But, speaking of dark horses, sila yung dalawa nakikita ko.
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So, you think there's, so,
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would you say there's more dark horses or
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those are just your two?
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Like, you have two dark horses.
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What do you, just real quick,
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what do you think the threat level to the Philippines would be from
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the wildcard teams that qualify?
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Team SMG and Team Lil Gun.
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Alright. I think,
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Especially dun sa mga sa performance nila.
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they had to face teams na hindi rin nating kilala.
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So, it's very hard to gauge kung ano yung
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mga real power level nila.
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But, just looking at their games,
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in our expression here sa Philippines,
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marami pang kakaining nasi
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I'm actually surprised dun sa ando ng performance.
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excited ako makita yung improvement ng team na ito
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because they have something different na in-implement
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compared to other teams,
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meron silang team psychologist.
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If you remember, yung mga nakasulat, yung,
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ano yun, early rotation,
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yung nakasulat dun sa kamay nila.
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Yeah, yung kamay.
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Yeah, that was cool.
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And then, they kinda,
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they kinda revealed na meron silang psychologist.
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Nung nagbasa ako,
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nag-research kasi,
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nag-search ako dun sa,
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Like, Team SMG psychologist.
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Ang actually unang lumabas was
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this post last 2022
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where Team SMG is looking for a psychologist
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na-implement na pala nila yun.
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you can really see the
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stark difference of Team SMG
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during MPL playoffs.
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And then, dun sa wildcard.
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So, tumaas yung threat level nila
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Kailangan din ba ng psychologist
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Okay na yung set up?
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May isang analytical coach?
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May isang coach coach?
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Yung sa blacklist,
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talking to Radha,
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and if you wanna know more about that,
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maybe you should listen to my podcast.
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they have implemented that
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psychology ever since.
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Pero hindi kasi yata
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I'm not entirely sure about this.
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Pero meron silang at least
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if you're looking at
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Isa sa mga inaaral niya yun before.
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hindi siya doctor din,
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I think it's one of his
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field na talagang
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ginalingan din niya.
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So, yung about sa mental
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For both of the teams,
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to answer your question,
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kailangan ba nila ng psychologist din?
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I think eventually along the way.
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I think they got it covered.
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meron naman silang mga practices
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na ginagawa before na
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dun sa area na yun.
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talking about Coach Ducky,
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I think part of their
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mental training is obviously like
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the whole gym routine.
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And we talked about that
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during the NPL season.
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some of these teams now starting
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their gym routines.
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They're trying to stay healthy.
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And that's part of it.
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You keep your health,
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you keep your mind healthy,
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your body healthy,
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you're probably gonna play better
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And that's kind of
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what we're seeing here.
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I like that you kind of
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Some of the thoughts here
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even with Team SMG
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one thing that I learned
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while I was over there
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this is also the first time
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that they've had a crowd
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part of that support
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and everything like that.
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now you have all these guys
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rallying behind Team SMG
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and with the improvements
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one constant trend
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that we've been talking about
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this entire year,
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is the imports of
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players and coaches.
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It may affect them.
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we already know that
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for most of the representatives
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there's either one or two players
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and even maybe a coach
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a part of these rosters,
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How do you think this affects
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super duper massive.
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hindi lang sa Filipino imports
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but most particularly
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sa Indonesian imports.
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hindi naman pala scientifically
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pero stats proven,
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generally have good effect.
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hindi siya yung parang instant,
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what we're seeing now is
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Ngayon pala natin
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nararamdaman talaga yung
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actual effect niya.
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If you look back nung m4,
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we've had imports
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tapos si Arcadia,
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they still didn't make it to
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And then meron ginawa din yung homeboys which is ang in-import naman nila is Indonesians which I think is also genius kasi na kumuha sila ng mga players na mas madali na parang mas speed up yung process kasi ang main hurdle, main bottleneck ng pag-improve ng isang team pag nag-import is the language barrier.
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But with Indo to Malaysia, sobrang lessened nung bottleneck na yun. So malaki talaga yung effect niya pero always remember that it will be gradual. I'm sure na ngayon malaki na yung difference from M4. I think that come MSC next time, next season, mas ladas pa yung impact ng mga Filipino imports natin.
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And overall, I think it's good for the ecosystem kasi parang ano lang ito eh.
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about the Filipino pride but more of
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teams are, the more na nag-invest
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ng mga teams outside of the Philippines
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na sa pagpapalakas
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ng community nila,
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mas lalakas talaga
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yung mga teams in that region.
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So, would you say
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sobrang tight nung competition
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Hindi masabi or it's still
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Ito lang yung mga mananalo or talagang bugbogan ba eh because of these imports na pinakalat ang lakas ng MLBB.
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Yeah, much tighter compared to previous seasons for sure.
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Feeling ko kasi meron lahat ng region ay may PH except the Turkish Delight team and Brazil. Tama.
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So, meron sa MENA,
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MY at specifically
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Napupunong-puno ng
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Tingin mo yung Blacklist International
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status? Ay well, nasabi mo na kasi kanina eh.
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Top 3, top. Pero ano ba?
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Easy Games ba yung
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group stage para sa kanila?
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Yun ang ano, siguro, dun tayo medyo
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I would say kung may konting threat yun yung pinakamalaking threat. Kasi
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ang group stage natin ay iba
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Fortunately, best of 3 Charlotte.
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hindi ka malalaglag agad.
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Or I mean, hindi ka mag first game, nice game.
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Katulad nung mga nangyayari sa ibang teams nung
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previous M-series. But it is
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an elimination group stage which means
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and M4, parang hindi ka malalaglag
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In a way, pwede ka
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mag-chill at pwede ka pa magdago ng
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stats. Ngayon kasi, best of 3. Tapos dalawa lang
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yung makakaangat. And then, if you're looking at the
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groups, napunta yung
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blacklist, for example, sa group of
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death, right? So, alam naman natin na kaya
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nilang ma-overcome yun. But
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at the same time,
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pwede kasing makabulag.
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Pwede na masun. Masun eh.
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Last on gaming for a best of 3.
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So, I guess, and then
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if you compare it, kunwari nasa
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knockout stages ka na sa playoffs, you have more
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information about the teams kasi napaglaro
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na sila ng tatlong series no matter what,
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or at least. Then, best
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of 5 na yun kung upper bracket
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ka, diba? So, it's
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madadalihan tayo sa playoffs
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kumpara sa group stage. Dahil lang
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dun sa last on factor.
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Okay. Ang gusto ko
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pag-usapan since analyst,
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saktong analyst si Wolfman.
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Ito, mga napag-usapan. Yung
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fast-paced update
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and turtle. Tapos, biglang
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nagkaroon ng meta ng mga healers
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din yan. Sa, ito, personal
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question. Sa fast-paced sa meta
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kanino ba ngayon ang meta?
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Yan. Magandang tanong.
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sa sariling tanong ha. Pero sige, yun na yun.
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Kanino ang meta? Wow. Okay.
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Mahirap pa. Pero,
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kanino ang meta, tingin ko sa
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mas bagay siya sa
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blacklist ngayon.
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Malakas pa rin yung ilang mga
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support type. And then,
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maganda yung tempo
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kasi nung blacklist. Yun yung tanong na kanino
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yung meta. Kung usapang papaboran
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ng meta game at sino gumagamit
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ng mga strongest heroes. Ayan, sa
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blacklist yan. Lalo na, nakita natin
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nagpakita na si Sensui ng
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kanyang assassin gameplay.
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Nolan. Diba? Nolan and Joy. Yun yung
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mga top. And then, Nolan,
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nalalaro niya. Tapos, may silang,
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magandang sustain meta game
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with Matilda. So,
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XP lane kasi, kayang-kayang
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laruin ni Mr. Edward.
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Ayan, si Agent Zero the Consistent. So,
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kung usapang kanino yung meta sa kanila.
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Ang AP Brent kasi,
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tsaka Onyx Indonesia.
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Ang kagandahan sa dalawang teams na to,
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shaper of meta vibes.
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Most particularly,
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ito si Kochev. Parang kung ano yung mga
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pinipili. But, same time, nakapag-adjust.
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So, siguro, sila yung
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magiging unorthodox pa.
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And that's also very true sa AP Brent.
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Alam mo naman, gano'ng kabaliw yung mga ginagawa nila.
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Kochev, syempre, si Daki
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the way that they're training their players.
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Bigla makita ng Fovius mid, diba?
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Tapos, baka nga makita tayo mga
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Fredrin mid. Fredrin mid.
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Mga ganong kabaliw na pick. So,
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not necessarily saan nila
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papabor yung meta. Pero, sila yung
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gagawa nung meta game nila.
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yeah. Interesting,
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kasi, even, I mean,
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even looking back sa
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wildcard, some of the picks, like
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for example, Nolan was open so many times.
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Pero, the teams decided
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not to go that route. They decided
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to go with something more risky.
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I still, personally,
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I like where the meta
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is right now. Kasi, there's
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picks, flexible meta or draft that
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you can bring. And, since you're
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talking about Blacklist and a little
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bit about AP Bren, Wolf,
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what do you think the strength is here
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for AP Bren? Like, what makes them
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a strong contender
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the Fredrin mid, that
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flexibility. Is there anything else that makes
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AP Bren, you know, so strong?
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Nandito tayo sa height
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ng mga players na naglalaro
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for them. Particularly, yung,
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yung tinrust the process nila,
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which is si Kyle, si
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Yung tatlong yun,
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they're at their height. Kumaga, paakit
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yung, ano nila eh, papik yung
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trajectory nila when it comes to their
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career and their power level.
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So, kumbaga, meron sila
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alam mo yun, killer instinct na mga
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Meron sila nun. Tapos,
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na-train pa sila ng tama.
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Nag-guide sila sa tamang way. So, meron sila
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nung kulit at nung galing
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And then, they have
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and most successful
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and also pinakakonsistent na
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idol talaga, which is si Few.
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nililit sila ng isang
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champion, kumbaga. Nag-M2 na.
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Na-experience na yung
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highest of highs, lowest of lows.
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And si Few, diba? Na-experience na yung
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pinakamababa. And I'm sure
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na siya yung parang magiging
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mature talaga dun sa team na yun.
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At napaka-importante yung role na yun.
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And then, meron sila nung, ano, parang
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meron silang unleash na kraken, which is
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si Flap. Diba? Pag
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on-point si Flap,
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nakakawa pa yun. The Flapening.
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Ano yung Flapening?
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yun yung nangyari
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kay Flap. Alam na,
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natin na may mga times na parang questionable,
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diba? Pero, nakikita mo, ganun kabilis
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siyang bumawa, eh. Babalik tayo dun sa
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SEA Games run nila, kung saan
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heavily criticized yung mga ginagawa ni FlapTZ
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nung game, parang game 1. And then,
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game 2, i-turn it around ng sobra.
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Minsan nga, sa start nung game,
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dun siya nagiging questionable. And then,
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bigla na lang niyang hahanapin na
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makahanap back to his zone, diba?
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Ganun yung napapansin ko yung Flap, eh.
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Flapening yung tawag doon. Flapening, eh.
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Kumbaga, sa una, ano lang, normal.
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Flap easy gameplay. Tapos, biglang,
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pag pumitik na yung the Flapening,
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bigla ka na magulat kung gano'n.
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May parang paranormal
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kung is this right,
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but it's the Flapening.
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But it's the Flapening.
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So, connecting to what Wolf said,
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magkakaibang kwento ng dalawang
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Blacklist International,
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pero for instance,
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short time nila nakamit.
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Meanwhile, you have the long-term storytelling
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Given na, may dalawang
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tanong actually, eh. Pero,
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may dalawang gusto mong thoughts na makuha din.
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Pero, unahin ko muna yung
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MPLI, nangyari siya
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And both of the teams,
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well, hindi yun yung main team ng Blacklist,
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pero AP Bren was the main team.
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for AP Bren, yung MPLI
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Kasi meron nga ang curse,
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o yung sinasabi nila na may curse ba
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pag nag-champion, or learning curve
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Goods ba na nangyari yung
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pre-game tournament na MPLI
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for both of these teams?
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Even sa lahat pala, even sa lahat, ha?
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Kasi nandun din yung Geek Fam,
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Parang nag-test ng waters.
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So people said it's like preview, basically.
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Like mini-preview.
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I think generally good siya sa
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maybe yung mga Blacklist members.
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Kasi at least yun,
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na-checkping talaga nila yung competition nila
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nung time na yun.
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I think for AP Bren,
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hindi ko alam kung
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ganito ito take nila.
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But for me, maganda eh.
23:31.7
Kasi nalaman nila yung mga potential na problema nila
23:35.3
when it comes to their
23:38.9
Basically, sa draft, diba?
23:40.3
Yung draft choices lang yan eh,
23:41.5
on the best of three.
23:42.9
The first time, kunwari, nung nakatapat nila
23:44.9
ang, I think, was it
23:48.2
Echo ba yung una nila nakatapat?
23:50.8
Draft talaga yung
23:52.1
naging problema nila.
23:53.2
Hindi sila na-outdraft, pero
23:54.2
ang hirap i-pull off nung
23:57.2
It's not very bad.
24:00.2
Nung ginawa nila,
24:01.1
nung matanong nila yan.
24:02.3
Specifically, Bren.
24:03.3
It's not so Bren.
24:04.2
And then, nung katapat nila yung
24:07.1
kung diyan nagkaamalain,
24:09.3
Yeah, it was RSG.
24:10.6
Yung eventually naglaglag sa nila.
24:13.1
Ang lesson learned naman nila doon
24:15.4
was more about ending the games.
24:17.0
At parang na-remind tayo
24:20.7
nung regular season ng season 12
24:23.6
yung kanilang pagtatapos
24:25.2
ng mga long games.
24:26.1
Parang sobrang galing nila
24:27.0
sa mga one-sided games.
24:29.2
ang galing nilang early,
24:31.7
magaling silang mga early.
24:34.2
ganun lang magseta yung mga pro.
24:38.0
they have a lot of moves
24:39.6
when it comes to their early game.
24:42.1
nag-overheat sila.
24:44.4
Doon sila nag-struggle.
24:50.7
you don't wanna lose
24:51.6
like a tournament like MPLI
24:53.4
lalo na with the prize pool
24:54.6
and with the prestigious momentum.
24:59.2
may mga lessons at least.
25:03.8
generally talaga,
25:05.7
kahit ganun yung naging resulta.
25:12.9
to also allow yung kanilang
25:15.0
M5 representatives
25:17.5
na magkaroon ng proper rest
25:19.1
and proper preparation.
25:20.5
Ang maganda pa nito,
25:27.6
si Coach Bonchan.
25:33.4
The only e-sports.
25:34.9
The only e-sports.
25:35.7
The only e-sports.
25:40.0
nasipat na niya yung mga,
25:46.4
Na-S&E Sports niya.
25:47.8
Na-S&E Sports niya,
25:49.5
To all of the viewers out there,
25:51.5
especially to the
25:52.4
international viewers
26:09.8
ang kasabihan dyan,
26:23.2
Ang tawag sa kanya is
26:26.3
or something like
26:27.1
I forgot the actual term
26:28.8
something ng Pinas
26:30.3
nung time na yun.
26:30.8
Mark MM ng Pinas ata.
26:32.8
Or Carry ng Pinas.
26:34.3
Before pa season 1.
26:35.7
Before pa nag season 1 ah.
26:39.7
translate mo na lang.
26:41.2
Gusto ko rin malaman ng
26:42.7
before we head on to the
26:47.2
Yung mga bench-bench
26:48.8
hindi pa uso yan.
26:50.8
Yung mga mga unang bench
27:00.7
who made it again
27:13.6
The one and only.
27:14.8
The one and only.
27:16.6
The one and only.
27:21.9
magandang pregame siya ako.
27:24.1
gusto ko talaga yung
27:28.4
yung kasi seryoso
27:29.0
and tight din yung
27:30.6
competition sa MPLI.
27:39.6
because of the stories.
28:02.0
pinaka-interested
28:12.0
they need to finish
28:20.0
that we can talk about
28:26.0
especially, you know,
28:28.0
For example lang,
28:32.0
hindi sila ganun ka-famous.
28:35.0
ang sama pa rin nung,
28:36.0
sa ilang mga Pilipino,
28:37.0
ang sama na tingin nila
28:39.0
and some of the people
28:40.0
around the world.
28:41.0
Especially mga Indonesians,
28:42.0
sa mga malupit na words
28:44.0
na sinabi ni Milo.
28:52.0
when you get to speak with them,
28:55.0
in a different light.
28:59.0
the N.A. representatives,
28:60.0
yung sacrifices na
29:01.0
kailangan nilang gawin
29:02.0
para maritch yung
29:03.0
kung nasan sila ngayon,
29:06.0
totally different.
29:08.0
You can even argue na
29:09.0
mas marami silang sinacrifice.
29:15.0
they even lost money
29:19.0
yung mga players nila.
29:20.0
Yung mga players na
29:22.0
pati yung mga coaches,
29:23.0
part-time lang yan.
29:28.0
in the end of the day,
29:34.0
yun yung interesting na sa story nila.
29:41.0
the road that they had to go through,
29:43.0
losing a best of seven,
29:45.0
tapos parang kailangan nilang mag-recover
29:48.0
If you're looking at
29:49.0
the teams from MINA,
29:51.0
yung mga sacrifice nila
29:52.0
sobrang laki din.
29:53.0
If you're looking at
29:57.0
they have been very dominant
30:03.0
But when they go here,
30:06.0
dito sa international grounds,
30:08.0
gaano ba sila talaga kalakas?
30:09.0
Every single year,
30:11.0
nakikita natin sila Louise,
30:14.0
Na nagpe-perform.
30:15.0
But we can see na,
30:17.0
hindi pa ganun kaangat yung level nila
30:19.0
compared to other teams
30:20.0
dito sa Southeast Asia.
30:23.0
So many good stories.
30:24.0
Now, you look at the
30:26.0
investments of Indonesia,
30:29.0
yung road for the two
30:31.0
representatives of Indonesia.
30:35.0
kahit pa dominant road yun,
30:39.0
madaming heartbreak silang
30:45.0
whatever happened dun,
30:47.0
kinakairi nung M4.
30:51.0
yung mga kinailangan niya
30:53.0
Ito yung mga pinagdaanan
30:54.0
yung mga pinagdaanan
30:55.0
yung mga pinagdaanan.
30:60.0
sobrang taas nung level nila.
31:03.0
But at the same time,
31:04.0
if you hear their stories,
31:06.0
madami din sila talagang pinagdaanan
31:09.0
and they have to go through a lot.
31:10.0
Kasi ONIC as a team,
31:12.0
hindi sila yung beloved
31:16.0
dun sa Indonesia.
31:18.0
There are the likes of RQ Nevos.
31:20.0
They're usually villains.
31:22.0
Ngayon-ngayon lang talaga sila
31:25.0
ngayon-ngayon lang sila
31:33.0
hated sila na mga Pilipino.
31:38.0
mga Pinoy sila dun.
31:40.0
there are a lot of people
31:42.0
what Kairi and Kochev
31:44.0
but if I'm reading
31:45.0
the comments lang,
31:46.0
if I'm just browsing through
31:50.0
mas madami ako nakikita.
31:51.0
Mas madami ako nakikita
31:52.0
mga hate comments
31:54.0
Kochev and Kairi.
31:56.0
babalik sila sa Pilipinas
31:57.0
as representatives
32:06.0
madami ka na mamabasa
32:09.0
pag nakita ko ito,
32:21.0
they are just kids
32:23.0
na trying to prove
32:24.0
na magaling sila.
32:26.0
why are they being hated?
32:29.0
na kailangan nilang
32:32.0
yung ONIC nasa estado ngayon
32:33.0
na hindi sila pwede matalo.
32:42.0
kumpara sa other teams.
32:48.0
do or die situation
32:54.0
yung sa Geek Fam lang din,
32:55.0
napakagandang story din.
33:01.0
was the first time
33:04.0
etong team na to,
33:05.0
etong franchise na to.
33:10.0
lupit yung story yan.
33:16.0
madami rin mga hindi naniniwala.
33:21.0
ang maganda dito,
33:22.0
yung mga solid fans
33:25.0
nakawita rin naman ni Baloy,
33:28.0
lagi niyang unang-unang
33:32.0
ibang klase yung,
33:34.0
sa kanila ng fans.
33:35.0
May nakikita daw kasi siya
33:37.0
day 1 pa lang nandun siya,
33:38.0
nakikita na niya.
33:40.0
sa lahat ng pagkatalo,
33:46.0
very touching story,
33:51.0
iba bang story na yun?
33:58.0
I'm telling you right now,
33:59.0
to all of the viewers out there,
34:01.0
the more that you get to talk
34:03.0
the more that you'll understand
34:04.0
that these people,
34:08.0
that they get the
34:14.0
that we've learned here.
34:16.0
on this podcast alone.
34:20.0
have shared these,
34:21.0
basically the trials
34:22.0
that they've been through,
34:25.0
you even mentioning
34:26.0
what the Ohio Brothers
34:32.0
I think he was our first guest
34:33.0
here on the first episode.
34:35.0
he shared a lot of that information.
34:37.0
we were surprised by it.
34:38.0
And then you learn,
34:39.0
with the succeeding guests,
34:40.0
that this is a typical thing.
34:43.0
all these other regions
34:44.0
are not as blessed
34:45.0
with the opportunity
34:46.0
such as the Philippines
34:53.0
just real quick too,
34:55.0
what you were saying about,
34:57.0
Kyrie and Coach Yeb
34:58.0
getting these comments
34:59.0
of this and that.
35:02.0
have to understand is,
35:04.0
they're basically representing
35:05.0
two countries in a way,
35:07.0
They're doing it,
35:08.0
it was actually in the wildcard.
35:11.0
Miko from Team SMG said
35:12.0
at the end of it.
35:15.0
victory interview
35:17.0
he was happy basically,
35:21.0
he's so happy because
35:22.0
not only is he representing
35:24.0
but he's also going to be
35:25.0
representing the Philippines
35:29.0
he gets to represent
35:30.0
two countries instead of one
35:31.0
and that brought him,
35:33.0
a lot of joy and pride.
35:35.0
I think that's something that
35:36.0
people need to understand
35:37.0
when they're sitting there
35:38.0
typing on their keyboard warriors,
35:44.0
and they're there to represent
35:49.0
maybe even their home country,
35:51.0
I think that's something
35:52.0
that's very apparent there.
35:56.0
There's so many narratives
35:59.0
that's only like the tip
36:01.0
what you talk about here,
36:05.0
and I know during the broadcast
36:06.0
we'll be sharing some of those stories
36:07.0
and those narratives
36:08.0
so that people can really understand,
36:10.0
what some of these players
36:11.0
are going through
36:14.0
even the ones that we got to talk to
36:16.0
they don't earn anything
36:18.0
except maybe the tournaments
36:22.0
out of pure passion
36:32.0
for sharing that.
36:34.0
we are going to move to
36:35.0
one of our favorite segments.
36:37.0
With a spin on it.
36:44.0
it might put you in a hot seat
36:47.0
we've changed it a little bit.
36:49.0
it started as like a traffic reference
36:50.0
and everything else
36:53.0
we've divided it into
36:54.0
three categories here.
36:57.0
all the M5 teams,
36:58.0
you'll be categorizing them
36:59.0
and the three categories,
37:02.0
just so our listeners know as well,
37:03.0
we have three categories.
37:05.0
The first one is going to be
37:06.0
Ang Munga happy to be here.
37:08.0
They're just happy to be here,
37:12.0
Ang Munga Dark Horse
37:14.0
at Ang Munga Championship Contest.
37:17.0
there's the three categories,
37:20.0
happy to be here.
37:21.0
They're the Dark Horse
37:22.0
and then Championship Contenders.
37:28.0
I usually pass this to you
37:29.0
but I had to get a little Filipino in there,
37:32.0
for the last episode.
37:36.0
those are the three categories.
37:37.0
You can go ahead and,
37:40.0
happy to be here.
37:47.0
Ang daming teams niyan eh.
38:04.0
this is difficult.
38:12.0
what if ang mood natin today,
38:13.0
I woke up today being,
38:15.0
direct to the point.
38:17.0
Rektahan tayo dito.
38:25.0
Kailangan ko ng, ano,
38:26.0
kailangan ko ng liquid courage.
38:31.0
Latte art by himself.
38:35.0
Hindi na, hindi na.
38:36.0
It's almost gone.
38:40.0
So, I'm gonna do it,
38:43.0
Unahin ko na yung ano.
38:44.0
Unahin ko na yung,
38:46.0
championship contenders.
38:47.0
I mentioned three.
39:01.0
I mentioned Far Flux,
39:04.0
and I'm gonna add,
39:06.0
Geek Fam in there.
39:09.0
Meron ka pang twelve teams.
39:11.0
The rest will be happy to be here.
39:23.0
May, yung ten teams,
39:24.0
happy to be here.
39:26.0
based on what you said,
39:52.0
happy to be here.
40:01.0
The Ohio Brothers,
40:15.0
Anong nangyari kasi guys?
40:17.0
Tatlo lang yung tiers.
40:18.0
I think there's a,
40:19.0
there should be a tier in between
40:22.0
and the Dark Horse.
40:23.0
But since we're trying to be
40:24.0
a very sportsman about this,
40:31.0
Lagot ka sa producer.
40:32.0
Matapang, matapang.
40:33.0
Lagot ka sa producer.
40:34.0
Matapang ang kape
40:36.0
na ininom ko ngayon
40:38.0
direct to the point.
40:39.0
Tatlo lang ang aking contenders
40:41.0
and then tatlong Dark Horses
40:44.0
and then the rest is
40:51.0
Pinapanood at pinapakinggan ka ng
40:56.0
paldong producer at
40:60.0
That's why he is the producer
41:02.0
kasi he produced it
41:05.0
So those are the teams
41:13.0
Kayo nang bahala.
41:14.0
Kayo nang bahala humusga guys
41:16.0
sa mga kinakategorize ni Wolf.
41:26.0
Magkakategorize pa ba tayo na?
41:28.0
So hindi, tayo host dito eh.
41:30.0
Wala, wala, wala.
41:31.0
Wait, ginawa ba ito ng ibang guests?
41:35.0
Pero wala pa nung in-play.
41:36.0
Yeah, wala pa yung wildcard.
41:42.0
What they did was
41:43.0
in their country.
41:46.0
Who's gonna make it to M5
41:50.0
Kasi some of the guests during that time
41:53.0
we were waiting for their playoffs and whatnot.
41:56.0
So now that we have the category
41:59.0
Let's take a look at the bigger picture here, Wolf.
42:05.0
particularly those who are
42:09.0
That will fair against
42:10.0
the Philippines or
42:11.0
you know about the
42:13.0
AP Brand and Blacklist International basically.
42:16.0
How do you think some of these teams will do?
42:18.0
You know, I know you already kind of
42:20.0
talked a little bit also about
42:21.0
you know, ONIC extensively and whatnot.
42:23.0
How do you think some of these other teams
42:25.0
will do against the Philippines?
42:31.0
ay hindi nga yung tatlong
42:43.0
Indonesians din na imports
42:50.0
pero baka hindi nila kayanin yung
42:53.0
established na ng mga teams na meron tayo
42:55.0
which is AP Brand
42:57.0
I can confidently say na
42:58.0
malakas talaga yung mga
43:03.0
they're ahead of the
43:05.0
for lack of a better term
43:07.0
pag nakita natin yung mga
43:10.0
how will they fare
43:11.0
against Filipino teams?
43:19.0
they will challenge
43:20.0
challenger mentality sila
43:22.0
kung nanonood kayo ng boxing
43:25.0
susugod at susugod
43:27.0
gano'ng klaseng team
43:29.0
try to make plays
43:31.0
draft aggressively
43:33.0
aggressively in a way na parang
43:37.0
gagawa sila ng mga play na
43:44.0
think about Kikfam na
43:45.0
instinctual kind of team
43:47.0
na hindi sila yung parang
43:49.0
strat based kind of team
43:53.0
Blacklist for example
43:57.0
interesting to watch
43:58.0
and at the same time
43:59.0
dahil challenger mentality nga sila
44:01.0
kayang-kayang nilang
44:04.0
kaya nilang makalasot
44:09.0
yung gano'ng klaseng team yun eh
44:11.0
they are the team that
44:13.0
really challenged
44:19.0
napakalaking ano nun
44:21.0
napakalaking bagay nun
44:24.0
in a best of three series
44:27.0
ibang Geekfam yung may kita
44:28.0
kasi nung MPLite was a
44:30.0
bunch of best ones
44:35.0
kung maalala nyo yung
44:42.0
different beast na may kita
44:44.0
so how will they fair
44:47.0
actually against our
44:51.0
they can also lose
44:55.0
challenger mentality nga kasi
44:57.0
something similar
44:58.0
something similar
44:59.0
can be said about homeboys
45:01.0
kapag nakuha nila yung mga
45:02.0
comfort nila with Zorn
45:06.0
makikita natin yung
45:07.0
dalawang Indonesian sila na
45:14.0
gumawa ng mga crazy
45:16.0
and also very aggressive
45:20.0
they improved a lot
45:21.0
dun sa kanilang drafting
45:22.0
at sobrang clear na
45:26.0
they also have a great chance
45:27.0
then lastly you have
45:30.0
sobrang impressive
45:32.0
ang pinakita nila nung
45:36.0
and then nung MSC
45:37.0
hindi nila kasama si
45:40.0
ini-idol ako ngayon
45:41.0
kasi kaganda ng performance rin
45:43.0
kumbaga siya yung
45:56.0
pag may Bad Gal sa pangalan
46:03.0
hindi mo kasi alam na
46:04.0
hirap tong podcast ito
46:07.0
ang dahil sa ginawa mo
46:09.0
nasa hot seat ka na
46:22.0
hindi ko alam kung
46:23.0
magagalit si producer
46:26.0
hindi mo sasagutin to
46:28.0
ikaw na bahala kay producer
46:31.0
kanyang tinatawag na
46:35.0
may tatlo kang sinabing team
46:41.0
sino second runner up
46:43.0
kailangan mo talaga
46:44.0
magagalit si producer
46:46.0
may curse si wolf diba
46:49.0
may curse si wolf
46:54.0
nanonood si producer
46:55.0
somewhere out there
46:57.0
pinapakinggan ka ni producer
46:60.0
habang naggo golf
47:02.0
habang nagpo bowling
47:04.0
kailangan mo daw sumagot
47:11.0
for the sake of the show lang ha
47:12.0
for the sake of the show
47:15.0
ikiklip na naman to eh
47:20.0
eto ang aking firm
47:25.0
believe in your heart
47:35.0
at mahal na mahal ko
47:44.0
alam mo ba yung winningest duo
47:49.0
ito na yung dalawang yun
47:53.0
but unfortunately
47:56.0
kaya ka nila mag champion
48:01.0
dun sa MPL play-offs
48:04.0
ang kailangan nilang
48:06.0
at kung nabago nila yun
48:07.0
they can easily become champs
48:09.0
nagkatago sila nung
48:10.0
nung play-offs pa
48:12.0
M5 nila ilalabas lahat
48:15.0
judging lang naman
48:17.0
kasi yun lang yung recent memory ko eh
48:24.0
AP Brainiac ang champion
48:26.0
bakit second place lang yung Onic
48:32.0
nananostra ko lang ah
48:36.0
international series
48:37.0
tapos nasa Pilipinas pa
48:40.0
may mga bumubulong bulong pa
48:45.0
and of course may ano eh
48:54.0
napapansin natin kapag international events
48:56.0
ano siya nanandurf
48:57.0
kumbaga para siyang ano eh
48:59.0
parang ewan ko eh
48:60.0
di ko ma-explain din eh
49:01.0
kailangan niyata manood ng stream
49:06.0
oo kailangan siguro
49:07.0
marami siyang matututunan
49:11.0
don't get me wrong ah
49:14.0
I still feel na sobrang lakas
49:15.0
ng lahat ng players
49:16.0
individually lahat ng players
49:17.0
and feeling ko naman
49:19.0
nalagpasan na nila yun
49:25.0
kulang sila sa anghang
49:27.0
kasi hindi masyadong maanghang dito
49:32.0
balita ko na sobrahan sila sa
49:34.0
puro sila ano ngayon eh
49:36.0
hindi ko nasasabing kung anong brand ah
49:37.0
pero may isang manok
49:42.0
na hindi maanghang
49:43.0
dito sa Pilipinas
49:44.0
at yun yung palagi nila nga nakain
49:45.0
baka masobrahan sila doon
49:50.0
doon sobrahan sa ano
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ang mga tropa natin
49:56.0
baka hindi sila ganun
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nasobrahan sa joy
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pag nasobrahan sa
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kulang sa anghang
50:10.0
nasobrahan sa joy
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kaya tingin ko ano sila
50:18.0
ah mga chicken boy
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sila yung aking maboto
50:49.0
I think ano naman
50:56.0
ang mataas pa talaga yung ceiling
50:58.0
best asset nila ngayon is
50:60.0
yung drafting nila
51:02.0
comfortable sila kasi
51:07.0
you can see yung mga
51:13.0
tapos yun nga meron silang
51:15.0
recurring na champion
51:18.0
napagdanan na yung
51:25.0
eto yung aking ahm
51:26.0
fearless forecast
51:27.0
tunay na fearless forecast
51:38.0
pag siya yung nagchamp dito
51:39.0
undisputed na siya
51:50.0
somewhere out there
51:53.0
fearless forecast
51:55.0
fearless forecast
51:57.0
sana may trabaho pa ako
51:60.0
somewhere out there
52:07.0
yung mga LA Clippers dyan
52:10.0
shout out sa inyo
52:16.0
that was probably the most
52:20.0
for the fearless forecast
52:22.0
here on the podcast
52:29.0
wrapping things up
52:31.0
you've given your thoughts
52:34.0
a couple days away
52:36.0
do you have any final messages
52:41.0
that you might have
52:43.0
let everybody know
52:45.0
thank you so much
52:46.0
for having me here
52:56.0
mismo ng m5 broadcast
52:57.0
we cannot be partial
52:59.0
so we have to really
53:01.0
whatever yung mga
53:03.0
it might be different
53:06.0
that I'm thinking about
53:09.0
it could be different
53:11.0
than this podcast
53:15.0
to all of the viewers
53:21.0
haters of specific teams
53:27.0
the more you'll understand
53:33.0
and mas maintindihan ninyo
53:35.0
when you get to know them
53:42.0
stories of the teams
53:43.0
the more you'll understand na
53:49.0
hindi na binabash natin
53:51.0
with whatever they're doing
53:52.0
they're just trying to
53:54.0
they just want to win
53:55.0
and they're sacrificing a lot
53:57.0
and if you want to
53:59.0
about these teams
54:05.0
that's the podcast
54:06.0
what's the podcast
54:07.0
what's the podcast
54:15.0
yeah you gotta get those on
54:16.0
spotify by the way man
54:19.0
thank you for the reminder
54:20.0
gotta throw those on there
54:22.0
thank you so much man
54:24.0
this is our last episode
54:26.0
any final messages for you
54:28.0
plugs you want to throw out there as well
54:36.0
nag message sa akin yung ano
54:45.0
for our international viewers
54:52.0
hindi magka season 2
54:55.0
parang masaya yung mga
54:57.0
sana face to face
55:08.0
he's already got his m5
55:10.0
don't forget to grab that
55:12.0
thank you for joining us
55:13.0
on all these episodes
55:14.0
this journey of our own here
55:19.0
it's just a few days away
55:20.0
can't wait to see you guys
55:23.0
shout out to wolf
55:24.0
thank you for being
55:28.0
you guys can find me
55:31.0
and that wraps it up for us
55:32.0
and also a big shout out
55:33.0
to our official teleco partner
55:35.0
this would not be possible
55:39.0
please do check us out
55:42.0
all the official channels
55:43.0
and we'll see you guys
