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dito po sa sarili nating bakuran sa West Philippine Sea, sa ating exclusive economic zone.
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Ngayon, sinasabi ng iba, ano ba yung mga naitutulong sa atin ng ating mga kaalyad?
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At bakit sila importante pagdating po dito sa pagtindig natin dito po sa pambubuli ng China?
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So yan po yung pag-uusapan natin ngayong gabi. And we're going to talk about a specific ally, United States.
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Tayong kanilang oldest treaty ally dito sa Asia. At pag-uusapan natin kung ano ba yung perspective dito
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at kung ano ba yung pwede pa maitulong ng ating kaalyado pagdating dito.
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So I'd like to welcome to our program.
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I'd like to welcome.
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So our program ngayong gabi, si Philippine Ambassador to Washington, si Ambassador Jose Manuel Babe Romualdez.
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Good morning there sa Washington and good evening here from Manila, sir.
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Yes, good evening, Christian. And thank you very much for inviting me.
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Ano mo, your program is beginning to be more and more popular even here in the United States.
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That's good to know, sir. Maraming salamat, Ambassador Babe.
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Let's talk about this. Una-una, of course, you've been monitoring what has been happening sa Scarborough Shoal.
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How serious are these tensions, these escalating tensions that we have been seeing over the past few days?
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Well, it's definitely very, very serious in the sense that I've always maintained on a personal basis,
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plus many of our friends in the intelligence community have always said that the real flashpoint in the Indo-Pacific region is the South China Sea.
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It's not really Taiwan.
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If there's any move that the Chinese will make, the Chinese leaders specifically, it will be a calculated move.
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Now, in the South China Sea, it's totally different.
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You can see that all of these skirmishes and all of this aggression is taking place on a regular basis and it will continue to escalate.
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So this is really something that not only do we have to watch out for, but our friends and allies all over the world are looking at this very seriously.
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And that we have to have contingency plans of what we will do.
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And why do you think China is escalating tensions lately, dito sa West Philippine Sea?
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I think that a majority of that is because the leadership in China really believes that the South China Sea is part of their territory.
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They've increased it from 9 to 10-9.
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Who knows how far it will go?
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But on the other hand, there is also the, what I would call,
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a big test of our relationship, especially with the United States.
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I think that they're testing us, they're testing the relationship and how committed the United States is.
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And at the same time, also, sort of like punishing us for going towards the West, so to speak.
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But clearly, we're on the right side of what we're doing.
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I think President Marcos has made it very clear that he will do everything and anything to make sure that we protect our territoriality.
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And that is a commitment that he has made, not only to the Filipino people, but to the world, as a matter of fact.
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And that's why the admiration that he has had, especially here in the United States, is really tremendous.
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And I'm very proud of him.
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And of course, the difference when it comes to the Philippine approach now to China under this administration is like night and day,
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compared to the previous administration.
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I think that's quite clear, no?
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Yeah, well, it's probably true.
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But, you know, perhaps...
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The previous administration looked at appeasement as a way of being able to peacefully try to talk about it.
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But I guess it didn't work because the more the aggression took place,
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and now they truly believe that, especially in the Tomas Shoal,
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you can see that they really believe that it's theirs and that they now control the area
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and that we have to ask permission, which is totally unacceptable.
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In terms of that appeasement that you're talking about, how big is that?
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Just right now, from where?
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I'm seeing what the administration of President Marcos is doing now as some sort of a course correction
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para itinutuwid yung paglalayag, so to speak, to use that metaphor.
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But how much of that appeasement policy of the previous administration is somehow putting a burden on the current approach now?
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If we look at history, appeasement with any kind of leadership that...
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believes that it has a mission, like what happened in Europe in World War II
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and even to a certain extent in our region during World War II,
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appeasing is not really going to work.
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When one is determined to try to dominate an area, the only way is to really push back.
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So I think we have to really look back at history.
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But unfortunately, history hopefully will not repeat itself because this time,
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around, we know what the consequences are.
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If there's any major conflict that happens, we may really just say that it's the end of the world
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because of the kind of weaponry that is now available to many countries, especially the superpowers.
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Right now, Ambassador, how would you describe the Marcos administration's policy or approach
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toward this specific China issue dito sa West Philippine Sea?
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I think it is doing exactly what any government should do.
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And that is their main job, so to speak, is to make sure that we protect our territorial integrity.
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It's in our Constitution.
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So that if for some reason any leader makes a deal in almost giving away anything,
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that is actually a crime.
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It's a crime against our people.
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And it's something that he was sworn to do and protect our country.
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He must continue to do what he's doing right now, which is the right thing to do.
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You mentioned kanina, Ambassador, na China is probably testing our relationship with the United States.
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Matagal na itong relationship na ito.
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Of course, we have the 1951 Mutual Defense Treaty.
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Pero how are we performing in terms of this test?
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Ibig sabihin, the United States, we've been hearing consistently yung ironclad support.
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Pero how exactly is that being translated?
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Sa gilian, sa mismong West Philippine Sea?
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Nakikita natin na talagang ang Estados Unidos ay talagang kasama natin dito.
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Dahil it's also in their interest.
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Alam nila na the Philippines plays a major role.
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We are part of that geopolitical situation.
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And we are geographically located in one of the most important real estate,
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as was mentioned by the former U.S. President.
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So it's important for them.
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At the same time, obviously,
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we want to take advantage of that 1951 Mutual Defense Treaty,
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which we've had for so many years,
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precisely as an offshoot of what happened during World War II.
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We are definitely going to invoke that if we need to,
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because we need a country like the United States,
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a major ally, and other allies as well.
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As you can see, the administration of President Marcos is reaching out to other countries,
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and a lot of other countries are supporting us on this one,
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on this effort to push back on the kind of aggressive behavior that China is doing.
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And I think especially given with what happened more recently,
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mas maraming mga bansang nagbigay ng kanilang expressions of support and condemnation.
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Yung sinasabi niyo, for instance, yung support ng United States,
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they agree na so far, since we have this MDT,
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it's been serving as a deterrent to prevent things from worsening dyan sa West Philippine Sea.
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Alam mo yung MDT na yan.
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And it's really something that if we look back at what happened in the 1950s,
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actually after the war in 1945-1946,
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our treaty with the United States was born out of the fact that we worked together
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or we fought together, as a matter of fact, during World War II.
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And it was incumbent upon the administration then in 1947,
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1948, and leading up to 1951, where we signed the Mutual Defense Treaty.
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And remember, there was also the Korean War,
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which was also an aggressive behavior that was taking place at that time.
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So we needed to have a strong ally to be able to work with them,
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as we did in World War II.
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So yung sinasabi niyo mga tao na,
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na nandiyan na naman tayo,
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parang we're trying to be,
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a subservient to the United States.
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Hindi naman totoo yan.
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The fact of the matter is,
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the U.S. has always played a major role in our country
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since time immemorial.
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And there's nothing wrong with it,
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as long as we continue to exercise our sovereign rights and our sovereignty.
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We have shown that on many occasions.
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We've had disagreements with the United States on many, many occasions.
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Pero at the end of the day,
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makasama pa rin tayo.
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I think that hindi natin pwedeng i-undo what has already happened in the past,
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in the sense that talagang ang tie-up natin sa U.S. is very strong.
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Pero at the same time,
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we're also reaching out to many countries as well.
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This administration, President Marcos, I can tell you,
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has never had so much aggressive moves towards reaching out to all countries all over the world,
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We have tried on many occasions.
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I think, President Marcos,
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he went in January for the state visit.
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He had a very frank discussion with President Xi.
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Nagka-reglo na sila na mag-uusap sila kung meron mga tension dyan sa ating region.
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Eh, wala naman nangyari doon.
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And then, alam natin na we were not really very optimistic
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yung gumawa tayo ng bilateral meeting with President Xi sa San Francisco
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not too long ago, just a month ago,
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with President Marcos.
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It was tendered the APEC.
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And ganun pa rin.
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Ngayon, parang medyo dismissive nga si President Xi.
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So, medyo nawalan tayo ng gana sa ganyan na tingin.
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So, I think history will bear out that we've done what we could
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to find ways and means to have a peaceful resolution.
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Pero, just the same.
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Ganun pa rin ang ginagawa natin.
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We're reaching out to China and to other countries that tried to convince China
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that this is not the way to go.
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So, all countries know that kung tama yung, you know,
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I always believe that right is might and might is not right.
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And it will, in the end, that is what's going to happen.
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Again, going back to what happened in World War II.
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In terms of options, kasi marami rin tayong mga kababayan po na medyo naiinip na.
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Parang sinasabi nila.
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Of course, you filed diplomatic protest.
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Kailangan talaga yan.
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It's very important.
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But, in terms of options, to somehow siguro,
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be more effective in terms of at least making China think twice
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before harassing our fishermen, our vessels.
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What options are still available to us?
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What other options?
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Well, Christian, unfortunately, I'm not at liberty to say exactly
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what are the options that are available to us.
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We do have quite a number of options available to us now,
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especially with our allies.
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Specifically, the United States, Japan, Australia, and other countries as well.
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Pero, one thing I can tell you, that we have moved forward from where we were.
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This time around, we are making clear to the Chinese that we are not going to give away
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any of our territory.
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Now, that message has to be continuous.
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We have to be relentless in that.
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And we have to be clear.
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What you call this, making sure that they understand that we are not going to move our budget edge.
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President Marcos has said that on many occasions.
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In fact, his latest statement out of his Twitter account clearly shows that he is determined to continue to push back.
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Now, hopefully, at some point in time, we are hoping that the leadership in China will find it better for us
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to sit down and really seriously discuss.
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Diplomatic approach is never a bad option.
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It's always the best option as a matter of fact.
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And so if we continue to show that we are determined to protect our territory, which
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is what happened to some other countries, I think there'll be light at the end of the
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But our countrymen should really realize that this is one of the most challenging times
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Ito talaga para ko.
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Talaga, far more serious than we've ever had.
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We've had so many ups and downs in our country.
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Pero this time, kailangan united tayo dito.
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Dahil ito, if for some reason we cave in, talagang wala na tayong bayang mag-uusapan.
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And we don't want that.
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No one wants to lose a country.
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I think that's pretty clear naman po.
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Siguro it's safe to say, majority of Filipinos talagang maintindihan naman yung sense of urgency
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Yung nga pala, Ambassador, given this latest aggressive aggression, gamit na natin term na
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aggression by China, yung China Coast Guard dito sa West Philippine Sea, some of our legislators,
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even people online are saying, dapat i-banish na yung Chinese Ambassador dito sa Pilipinas.
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I mean, as a diplomat, how do you see that as an option in terms of sending a stronger
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message to Beijing?
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Well, alam mo, that is something that we have to study carefully.
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It's easy for us to declare anyone persona ng grata.
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We have that option all the time.
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Pero kung nakikita natin ineffective itong ambassador ng China sa atin, and the messages
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are not delivered, if that is our view, then we can formally request China to change their
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We don't have to necessarily declare him to be persona ng grata, but we can just simply
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We feel that communication, there's a lack of communication going to the leadership.
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Pero sa tingin ko, hindi ganun eh.
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I think the Chinese Ambassador is just simply mouthing what the leadership wants to communicate.
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They change the narrative every time something happens.
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They blame us instead of the world blaming them for what's happening in our part of the
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And again, it's just something that we can't do.
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We can't do anything about it in the sense that kung ganun ang isip nila, wala tayong
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Of course, we have personal reasons for some of our leaders in the country.
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Alam ko, si Sen. Subiri, medyo matindi ang galit sa Chinese Ambassador dahil meron silang
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usapan noon at mukhang pinalabas na si Sen. Subiri pang hindi nagsasabi ng totoo.
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Maski sino naman magagamit sa ganyan, di ba?
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But ganyan na nga eh.
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That's what's happening right now eh.
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Pag meron tayong pinadadalan di Mars or North Merbal, laging binabaliktad nila.
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In fact, dito sa US, ganun din ang ginawa nila recently.
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In fact, the recent incident, tinawag ng US ang China kung bakit nila ginagawa yan.
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Of course, they told them and warned them that we are with the Philippines.
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Clearly, another sign that the United States is committed to us in their commitment in our
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mutual defense treaty.
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Pero ganun rin, pinaikot nila at sinabi nila, ang Pilipinas, we were the ones who were
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being aggressive.
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Parang tinutuya daw natin sila.
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Talagang pag ganyan ang salita eh, maski sino, hindi matutuwa sa ganyan na salita.
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Actually, sa narrative nila, it's the Philippine vessels.
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Yung Coast Guard, yung nagpo-provoke daw sa China.
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Tsaka diba yung latest revelation ni Senator J.V. Harris ito,
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nakuwento rin sa kanya ni Chief of Staff, General Romeo Brawner,
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na kinonfront siya ng mismong Chinese Ambassador daw in one event,
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at sinabi, don't provoke us.
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I mean, yung mga ganyang ano, parang somehow it speaks of how brazen they can be.
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Well, you know, I'm not aware of that.
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Pero alam mo yung mga ganyan na salita.
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Tayo mga Pilipino, we're very patient people eh.
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Pero pag tayo masyadong tinutulak na, eh, hindi tayo papayag sa ganyan eh.
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Minsan nga, humahawak tayo sa patalim, di ba?
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Eh, kung ganyan eh, patayan ko sa patayin.
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Pero ayaw natin ang ganyan na away.
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Gusto natin mag-usap tayo ng mabuti at masinsinan.
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Pero pag ganyan ng mga salita, maraming Pilipino hindi na magpapayag sa ganyan eh.
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Kasi parang linoloko na tayo eh.
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Eh, hindi tayo papayag sa ganyan eh.
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Maski sino, maski presidente natin, maski na yung, yung nagtatrabaho sa labas,
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yung mga overseas workers natin, lahat sila, hindi sila natutuwa sa ganyan ng mga salita eh.
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Kasi para tayo pang ang nagbubuli, eh, tayo na nga ang binubuli.
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At sinasabi na natin ayaw natin ang away.
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Pero pag when push comes to shove, ang pagkaalam ko sa Pilipino eh, palabad.
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Hanggang sa kamatayan.
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Okay. Importante po yan, of course, yung modernization, which is a process, no?
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It's a long game, at least for the Philippines, no?
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To modernize our capabilities, ang AFP ng Coast Guard.
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Pero ano po ba yung mga latest na mga, let's say, assistance that we have been getting from the United States,
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or including yung mga siguro promises in the future, to help us with better equipment and to modernize our AFP?
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Itong EDCA, contrary, again, to what some people are saying, itong EDCA is really helping us in modernizing our AFP.
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The training that our soldiers are getting is top class.
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I think anyone who is a witness to that can tell you that our soldiers are now better and well-trained.
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The equipment, of course, kasama yan.
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It's both assistance.
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Merong financing.
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Very lenient financing coming from the United States.
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And, of course, yung ating procurement plan.
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So, all three of those facets of our modernization program is what's going to bring us to the level that we want to bring it, no?
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So, it's ongoing.
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Maraming equipment na dumadating na at padating.
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We're in the process, of course, of trying to get more really very important equipment like this.
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For instance, yung F-16 na matagal na nating pinag-uusapan yan.
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Nandito si Senator Sebiri not too long ago.
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At he himself saw that there is an effort from the United States to help us get F-16s.
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Pero we have to change the law.
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Kasi yung law natin sa procurement kailangan brand new.
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E yung brand new medyo sobrang mahal yung lalo ng F-16 na yung Block 17 na tinatawag nila which is the modern F-16s already.
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We cannot afford that.
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So, there's F-16s that is now being, that is hardly used actually from another country, from a third country which the United States is urging us to purchase.
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And we can get enough of the F-16s that we need.
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So, yung mga ganyan, malaking tulong sa atin ng Amerika dyan.
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And if we are able to change that procurement law, makakabili tayo nitong ito at saka tulong din ng Amerika sa atin.
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Yung kanilang maya.
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Ito pong pagbabalik.
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So, pagpapalik din sa part ng procurement law.
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This is now in the works based on your conversations with the Senate President?
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From what I'm told, he already filed or they filed the bill already.
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It's a more realistic way of buying.
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Kasi ano mo, a brand new F-16 can cost almost so many hundreds of billions of dollars.
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Hindi nating kaya yung ganyan.
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We have to be realistic.
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While it's nice to hear na bumili tayo ng ganyan.
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Pero pag wala tayong ganyan na pera, e kailangan we have to be practical.
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And ako, I'm convinced na itong mga equipment na pwede natin bilhin sa ibang bansa, malaking tulong sa atin yan.
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In fact, our Air Force, kausap ko lang yung mga Air Force.
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Meron tayong Air Force attache dito.
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Sa kanila talagang, they really are just dying to have the F-16s.
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These are really...
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Very good aircraft that can really protect our shores from above.
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And of course, marami tayong tinitingnan ng mga boats, yung mga PT boats or whatever.
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The Coast Guard cutters that we're getting from other countries as well.
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Yung F-16 fighters, ilan yung pinag-uusapan po natin dito?
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At least one thousand.
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Minimum of one thousand.
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And we're hoping to get as many as, I think, something like 30.
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And the good thing about these F-16s is, yan ang tinatawag na workhorse ngayon ng maraming Air Force all over the world.
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Some of the aircraft that they bought from other countries, they're not happy with.
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Kaya ito, parang ano nito, tested na ito.
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Time-tested na itong F-16s.
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This is really what we need to be practical about it.
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At saka, siyempre, marami rin tayong mga...
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aircraft na gustong bilin.
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I think Israel is one of those that has been offering us,
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although we don't know where that is right now with what's happening in the Middle East,
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pero that's another country that's really out there to try to help us modernize our armed forces.
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Doon naman po, yung sa immediate concerns.
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Because we're doing resupply missions dito sa Ayungin Shoal, dun sa BRP Sierra Madre.
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And ang laging ginagawa ng China, pinipigilan.
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More recently, sa Scarborough, meron ding supply mission sa mga mga isda, binomba rin ng tubig.
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Ang claim ng China ay kasi raw, dun sa Ayungin, we're trying to, tawad dito,
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do construction or transport construction materials.
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Na in the first place, wala silang pakailam kung sakaling ginagawa man natin yan because this is the West Philippine Sea.
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Pero in terms of resupply missions, ang sinasabi ng iba, baka it's time for our allies to actually escort our vessels.
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Among them, United States.
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What do you think of that?
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Well, medyo, you're already opening up some options that you're looking at.
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Pero siyempre kasama yan dun sa mga options.
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Si National Security Advisor Ed Año, he's one of the best people that is now in the Cabinet of the President.
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He's so well-versed.
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He's highly respected not only by armed forces, but he's also highly respected here in the United States, especially at the White House.
25:48.9
Alam niya kung ano exactly yung kailangan natin to be able to.
25:53.6
And lahat ng mga options niyan, meron na tayong ginawang strategy kasama ng not only the U.S.,
25:58.7
pero yung mga ibang allies natin that are prepared to go with us on this one.
26:03.5
All those options are now in place.
26:06.8
And the strategy is clear, straightforward.
26:11.4
At we will not leave anything, what do you call this?
26:17.7
Kung kailangan natin...
26:18.9
Ang nating gawin, gagawin natin.
26:20.9
This is the good thing about what we have right now with the administration of President Marcos.
26:25.1
He has given full confidence in our national strategy, our defense strategy.
26:34.2
And Secretary Año is on top of this.
26:36.6
Yan, napakaswerte natin na we have somebody like Secretary Año.
26:39.8
Walang ano yan, walang aire, walang planong to run for any office, low-key.
26:46.4
Nagtatrabaho lang talaga.
26:47.7
And I really admire him.
26:48.9
He's one of the many officers in our armed forces that I really have great admiration for.
26:56.6
Na talagang tunay na nationalistic at talagang mahal niya yung bayan natin.
27:01.3
That's what I heard din, Ambassador.
27:04.0
Nung miss ko na nasa DALG siya, medyo mahirap pakiusapan yata kasi non-political.
27:12.5
Hindi niya iniisip yung dahil kailangan politika dito or what he's just trying to please the President.
27:18.9
Nakikita ko talaga eh.
27:20.5
So he's really a soldier through and through eh.
27:26.6
He's a national treasure as far as I'm concerned.
27:30.3
Kasi I work with him eh.
27:32.1
Alam ko yung kanyang attitude eh.
27:34.3
Talagang giretso talaga.
27:36.0
Kaya highly respected yan dito sa Amerika.
27:38.6
Isang tawag lang niya sa White House, they will answer it right away eh.
27:42.9
That's how much value he has.
27:45.2
He has access to the White House on a regular basis.
27:50.6
In terms of strategies, tsaka yung mga options, how about dun sa Chinese influence operations?
27:55.3
Na at least maganda, napapagusapan ngayon, no?
27:57.3
Pero, I don't know whether you're at liberty to talk about the details.
28:01.8
Pero, is there a more or less solid plan to counter the Chinese influence operations?
28:11.0
I cannot say yes or no, but I'll tell you one thing.
28:14.1
Again, let me just say this clearly.
28:16.2
Hindi tayo papayag.
28:18.9
Na tayo pa ang mali.
28:21.2
Basta tayo gagawin natin yung tama.
28:23.8
Yan, klarong-klaro yan.
28:25.1
Yan, narinig ko mismo sa Presidente, sinabi niya sa ating mga armed forces at sinabi niya kay Secretary Ano.
28:31.3
Gagawin natin ang tama.
28:34.2
So, as long as we're doing what is right, and the world knows it, hindi tayo atras dyan.
28:41.3
That's one thing I can tell you.
28:43.8
And sir, before we end, may mga nagpapatanong din ito.
28:46.9
Among them, si Tony Aguila.
28:48.9
Hindi ito related sa West Philippine Sea.
28:51.3
Pero, regarding si Pastor Apollo Quibuloy, alam natin merong kaso dyan sa United States.
28:58.1
Ang tanong niya, at saka ng iba rin, pinapatanong ito.
29:00.8
Ano ba yung status ng ano?
29:02.7
Is there an extradition request from the United States?
29:05.8
Can you give us information about that?
29:08.8
Well, sa totoo lang, I just heard about a case that the pastor supposedly has here in the United States.
29:16.5
Pero, wala pa doon sa request for extradition.
29:18.9
Normally, yan ladaan either sa embassy dito sa Washington, D.C., or diretso sa U.S. Embassy at ipagdadala sa ating Justice Department.
29:29.4
Wala pa ako na naririnig na meron ng request ng U.S. dyan.
29:38.2
Ambassador Jose Manuel Romualde, sir, maraming maraming salamat po.
29:43.0
Thank you for accommodating our request.
29:44.8
Napakaagad dyan sa Washington.
29:46.2
Kamusta ba? Sobrang lamig na po ba?
29:48.9
Hindi talaga dito sa Amerika ngayon.
29:50.8
Pero, well, just the same.
29:53.8
Kailangan nakabihis tayo ng tama dahil ang lamig dito.
29:58.2
Ang sabi nila, winter is going to be a little worse than it ever was.
30:01.8
Hopefully, hindi naman sana.
30:03.9
Pero, just the same.
30:04.8
Anyway, basta I'll tell you one thing, Christian.
30:07.1
As I told you, your program is so popular here now in the United States.
30:10.8
And I always welcome this type of conversation I have with you.
30:15.0
So, maraming salamat for inviting me.
30:17.5
And happy holidays to you.
30:18.9
And all your viewers.
30:21.4
Maraming salamat din po.
30:22.4
Ambassador Babe Romualdez, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance to you.
30:31.9
Yan po si Ambassador Babe Romualdez.
30:35.8
At least, nadinig natin yung perspective ng ating ambassador sa United States.
30:42.8
May mga trolls dito.
30:44.6
Hindi ko kayo binasa.
30:48.9
Aambunan ng biyaya.
30:50.7
Kasi pag binasa ko kayo, baka magka-bonus po kayo magpapasko.
30:54.7
Sinasabi nila, gera na, gera na.
30:57.9
Well, pag ina-narration po yung discussions na ito,
31:00.6
kung simplistic mag-isip yung mga trolls,
31:02.6
tsaka yung mga loyalista ni Duterte,
31:05.3
well, ganun talaga sila.
31:06.8
Yan ang talking point sila.
31:08.0
Pag nanindigan daw, gusto natin gera.
31:11.0
No, of course not.
31:11.8
We don't want any war.
31:14.2
As much as possible, iwasan yan.
31:17.6
Kasi pinag-uusapan namin kanina,
31:18.9
yung F-16 fighters and procurement ng Pilipinas.
31:22.5
Hindi ibig sabihin gusto natin ng gera.
31:24.6
We're talking about these things in the context of the AFP modernization
31:28.5
na ilan taon na po ongoing.
31:32.3
Kailangan din kasi meron tayong ano eh.
31:35.9
Alam ko bago na yung term eh.
31:38.1
credible defense posture yung naalala ko lagi eh.
31:43.5
meron tayong enough capabilities na
31:45.6
for countries like China
31:49.2
think twice before
31:53.4
medyo may ibubuga.
31:55.6
wala pa tayo sa ganong status.
31:59.0
But we're going toward that.
32:01.6
Credible defense posture.
32:06.0
are we credible enough,
32:08.8
to give anyone a bloody nose?
32:14.6
Hindi man natin matalo yung bully.
32:17.7
mapaisip man lang.
32:18.9
Mapaisip man lang sila.
32:22.5
hindi basta-basta ito.
32:24.1
Isa nga yan sa mga functions,
32:26.4
imagine nyo kung wala tayong
32:27.7
mutual defense treaty.
32:29.5
Have you imagined that?
32:33.5
kailangan siyang i-review.
32:34.8
Dahil ang context siyang Cold War eh.
32:37.1
Cold War realities
32:38.0
that was after the Second World War,
32:41.2
yung mutual defense treaty natin sa Pilipinas.
32:43.6
Siguro kailangan i-update,
32:47.4
mas makikinabang tayo dyan.
32:49.8
pag-tratado kasi,
32:50.8
dapat equal footing eh.
32:52.4
Hindi pwedeng nalalamangan na isa.
32:54.8
So, magandang tinitingnan din yan.
32:56.7
Pero imagine nyo kung wala tayong
32:58.1
tratado with the United States,
33:04.3
ang dali sigurong
33:08.9
dyan sa West Philippine Sea.
33:11.4
Kaya ang maganda,
33:12.7
nanonood kayo sa ating programa, no?
33:15.1
Pag nakakapanood kayo,
33:16.1
nakakabasa kayo ng mga
33:17.9
ng mga naratanggap,
33:19.9
galing dito sa mga
33:21.0
di umano'y Pilipino,
33:22.6
sa mga trolls, no?
33:24.4
Doon sa mga bayarang,
33:27.3
Tanongin nyo lang lagi, no?
33:32.2
ng China Coast Guard?
33:39.1
ng Chinese Maritime Militia,
33:42.9
sa ating sariling bakuran
33:45.4
West Philippine Sea.
33:47.7
West Philippine Sea,
33:48.6
ito po yung nasa West.
33:52.4
noong ating tinatawag na
33:54.0
Exclusive Economic Zone.
33:57.3
tayo po yung may tinatawag na
33:59.3
sa lahat ng resources
34:03.6
nandyan ang China.
34:06.2
pero yung manatili,
34:08.6
kuyugin yung ating mga vessels,
34:10.3
bombahin ng tubig.
34:13.5
Hindi po dapat nangyayari yun.
34:15.5
kayang gawin ng China
34:16.4
dahil malaking bansa sila
34:18.6
At maraming Pilipino
34:22.3
hindi naman siguro
34:25.9
pinoprotektahan pa
34:27.7
tayo pa rin may kasalanan.
34:30.2
Tayo pa yung sinisise.
34:31.6
Para ba sinuntok ka
34:32.9
ng bully sa playground?
34:42.6
pag pinag-usapan natin
34:44.2
AFP Modernization,
34:46.6
sasabihin ng iba,
34:48.6
gusto nyo kasi gera eh.
34:49.8
Naalala nyo ba ko
34:50.5
sino yung politikon talagang
34:52.4
Yung talagang nagpakalat
34:53.5
ng ganyang naratibo?
34:55.1
Diba yung dating pangulo,
34:57.9
Siya yung nagsabi niyan eh.
35:01.5
Mr. President eh.
35:02.5
Hindi po orki gusto natin
35:03.7
ipaglaban ng ating karapatan.
35:05.7
Yung word na paglaban,
35:06.6
gusto natin makapagsuntukan
35:12.4
At yung mismo ambassador
35:13.5
na natin nagsabi,
35:14.6
Si Ambassador B.M. Waldes.
35:18.6
Duterte Administration.
35:20.3
naging bahagi din siya.
35:21.8
Eh, hindi nag-work.
35:24.1
It's not rocket science
35:25.7
for us to determine that.
35:27.1
Yung appeasement.
35:30.4
Huwag natin yung offend yung bully.
35:33.7
Buti nga kung appeasement
35:34.8
lang yung ginawa eh.
35:35.9
Parang iba pa eh.
35:37.1
Parang sobrang pagsipsip
35:42.4
like ko sinasabi ito, no?
35:44.0
Sinasabi ng mga lawyerista
35:45.4
naman ng mga Marcos eh,
35:49.9
Tingnan natin yung ginagawa
35:50.8
ng Marcos Administration dito.
35:53.6
It's on the right track
35:54.5
in terms of dealing with China.
35:57.3
Tama yung ginagawa.
35:58.5
Ang term nga nang ginagamit ko
36:00.2
course correction.
36:02.0
Inaayos yung takbo
36:03.0
ng ating paglalayag
36:04.7
in terms of dealing with China.
36:06.9
Eh, kesa naman dati.
36:09.1
Parang allergic yung dating
36:10.4
administration sa pagbanggit
36:12.5
sa Permanent Court of Arbitration.
36:15.2
Kung mga nanalo ka
36:16.0
ng isang landmark case.
36:27.1
Bagong-bago pa yung
36:27.9
Duterte Administration.
36:31.0
Ayaw ma-offend yung China?
36:33.2
Binanggit na toward
36:33.9
the end of the administration.
36:35.2
But it was too late.
36:36.1
Alam nyo ba yung problema ron?
36:37.2
Yung what was frustrating?
36:39.2
Maraming mga bansa
36:40.0
na gusto tayong tulungan.
36:41.7
Gusto tayong back-upan.
36:43.3
ayaw gamitin yung panalo natin eh.
36:45.7
Lumabas na yun sa mga ASEAN.
36:47.1
Nag-cover ako ng mga ASEAN
36:48.4
summits nung mga time na yun.
36:51.5
kasama natin sa ASEAN,
36:53.2
talagang gustong gamitin
36:54.1
kasi legal rights yun eh.
36:57.5
Tayo may karapatan.
36:58.4
Walang kwenta yung
36:59.0
nine-dash line ng China.
37:04.0
Kaya nga yung mga bansa
37:04.8
tulad ng Vietnam,
37:07.1
nung time na yun.
37:10.5
kung gamitin yung panalo
37:13.3
yung Pilipinas mismo
37:15.7
180 degree yung turn.
37:21.0
And whether you like him or not,
37:22.2
si President Marcos,
37:23.8
yung mga statements niya,
37:25.3
very, very clear.
37:27.5
Very, very clear.
37:28.8
Yung paninindigan
37:32.8
sana maintindihan natin.
37:34.4
kaya naninindigan tayo
37:35.6
dito sa ginagawang
37:36.3
pambubuli ng China.
37:39.1
yung ugnayan natin
37:42.5
ng ating relationship
37:44.7
Maraming aspects po yan.
37:46.9
na nagkagalit tayo dito.
37:48.4
Eh, hindi na tayo
37:53.4
community of nations,
37:57.4
dapat meron din tayong
37:58.8
or non-negotiables.
37:59.9
Ang problema kasi
38:00.5
na naka-administrasyon,
38:02.9
nadidinig natin yan.
38:05.7
foreign secretary dati
38:10.5
Si Alan Peter Caetano.
38:11.7
May mga nadidinig pa tayong
38:12.9
red lines, red lines
38:15.3
dikit sa China yun eh.
38:17.0
Medyo quiet nga ngayon eh.
38:18.2
Ano ba pinagsasabi
38:24.9
Alan Peter Caetano.
38:28.2
Parang si Sarah Duterte,
38:29.4
si vice president.
38:35.2
kalalaking issues
38:36.0
dapat nagsasalita sila.
38:42.9
Dami nangyari eh.
38:44.2
na-trigger ako no?
38:49.5
Trigger lang tayo.
38:54.2
Hingang maganda no?
38:55.0
Nakakapag-call out tayo no?
38:56.3
Sipin nyo kung nasa
38:57.2
big network tayo.
38:58.3
Hindi natin masasabi yan.
38:59.8
Mga sinasabi ko kanina.
39:01.8
Nagwawala na yung mga tao
39:07.0
Tigilan mo na yan.
39:08.2
Ma-offend si Alan Peter Caetano.
39:10.4
Bawal ma-offend yun eh.
39:12.9
Noong panahon noong ano
39:14.0
ABS-CBN franchise.
39:16.0
Bawal ma-offend eh.
39:17.2
Kahit sila yung ano.
39:18.9
Kinakalagkad yung paa
39:21.8
franchise application
39:27.3
let's water under the bridge.
39:31.1
Yung mga babati lang po tayo
39:34.2
Binabati po natin
39:35.2
si Miss Kathy Sanada.
39:37.2
Happy birthday po ma'am.
39:38.5
Happy birthday po today.
39:39.6
Nakita po kami niya no?
39:40.9
Noong nagkaroon po tayo
39:44.7
tsaka mga supporters
39:46.9
dyan po sa Tokyo recently.
39:48.6
So happy birthday po Miss Kathy.
39:50.5
Buti pinaalala sa akin
39:55.7
Happy happy happy
39:56.5
happy birthday po.
39:59.0
Gusto rin po natin
40:00.4
Isa po sa ating mga
40:06.1
Nakakaiha naman kasi
40:07.9
feeling celebrity no?
40:09.4
Hindi naman tayo ganun eh.
40:12.9
term media celebrity.
40:15.6
Medyo nakakilabot no?
40:17.4
Although marami tayo
40:18.9
Feeling nila media celebrity
40:20.1
sila o media personality.
40:23.2
pero wala namang personality no?
40:24.9
Masyadong presumptuous
40:25.9
sa akin yung ganun term eh.
40:27.3
Kasi pag media celebrity
40:29.9
mag-artista ka na lang.
40:32.4
Ano lang tayo rito?
40:33.6
What a journalist
40:35.6
or serious journalism
40:37.7
on another platform.
40:41.8
gusto nating batiin
40:43.6
si Ma'am Jenny Reyes.
40:46.4
Oy birthday rin po niya ngayon.
40:48.5
Happy happy birthday po.
40:50.4
Ma'am Jenny Reyes.
40:52.2
Buti pinaalala sa akin
40:54.3
Kilala nyo po ba si Abel Pineda?
40:55.9
Pakigugal nyo si Abel Pineda.
40:57.9
Yan po yung napakatinik
41:00.1
Siya po yung nagugupit sa akin
41:01.2
for so many years na.
41:11.8
For the rock stars.
41:12.7
Hindi naman po ako rock star, no?
41:14.3
Na-discover ko siya
41:15.3
nung nasa ano pa ako.
41:16.2
Philippine Daily Inquirer.
41:17.4
Nagpagupit ako sa kanya
41:21.6
ilang taon na ba yan, Abel?
41:23.5
Mga 10 years na, no?
41:26.8
Nobody else touches my hair.
41:35.7
Tapos binabati rin po natin
41:37.2
si Divine Villapuerte.
41:40.1
Binabati rin natin yung
41:43.3
pabati naman yung kapatid
41:45.3
na magbe-birthday bukas.
41:47.8
Si Ate Maria Sabado.
41:51.4
Happy 70th birthday po.
41:55.0
Ma'am Maria Sabado.
41:57.0
Thanks and more power.
41:58.2
Team replay yung friend ko.
41:59.4
Busy sa paghahanda
42:01.8
Ngayon na yata yun, no?
42:03.0
Late yung pagkakabasa ko kasi.
42:05.4
Tapos si Rexy Salvador Reynoso.
42:09.6
Is it possible to greet
42:10.8
my daughter-in-law?
42:12.7
Jel Moral Reynoso.
42:14.4
It's her birthday tomorrow.
42:16.0
That's late na natin
42:19.1
Pero kahapon ang birthday niya.
42:23.0
Belated happy birthday sa'yo,
42:27.3
binabati rin natin si
42:28.6
ano bang pangalan mo talaga?
42:38.9
Pag-greet naman dyan.
42:39.9
Watching from St. John's,
42:43.4
Maraming salamat sa'yo.
42:46.5
nag-message ito sa akin
42:49.4
pwede po ba favor?
42:50.4
Pasensya na if demanding.
42:55.1
Binabati natin siya.
43:02.9
Magandang gabi sa'yo,
43:05.4
Uy, nanonood si Ma'am Jenny,
43:07.9
Ayan, nag-message oh.
43:08.8
Tara, i-post natin.
43:13.2
Sana magkita naman tayo
43:14.5
minsan dyan sa ano,
43:16.3
Kakapagupit ko lang
43:16.9
kay Abel kasi a few,
43:20.7
early this week yata eh.
43:22.0
Well, last week ba ako
43:23.3
Nakalimutan ko na.
43:24.7
Iba talaga si Abel eh.
43:32.5
Nakakatouch naman yung message
43:37.0
journalist ay kagaya mo,
43:38.3
palagay ko ang intelligence
43:43.8
Hindi naman tayo sa ano,
43:47.4
dapat siya kasi pinagtutulong-tulungan
43:50.6
pag may mga conversations
43:57.1
hindi ko ginagamit yung ano eh.
43:58.3
Happy Holidays eh.
43:59.2
Ginagamit ko Merry Christmas eh.
44:01.3
It's about Christmas eh.
44:03.3
Anong gagawin natin?
44:07.5
So, Christmas talaga.
44:08.8
Kaya Merry Christmas
44:09.6
ang bati ko lagi.
44:14.3
Sino pa mababatiin natin?
44:19.5
Sobrang Jenny Jenny na yan ah.
44:23.5
Team replay uli siya mamaya.
44:29.7
binabanggit ko kanina no,
44:31.5
kung may mga gatherings kayo,
44:33.7
medyo ikwento nyo yung tama
44:35.6
tungkol sa West Philippine Sea.
44:39.4
intelligence funds,
44:40.6
pag yung mga ganyan
44:41.6
small conversations na yan,
44:43.2
pinagsama-sama nyo yan,
44:44.6
imagine nyo yung virus
44:45.7
ng disinformation,
44:47.0
parang imagine nyo,
44:49.0
medyo mag-re-receive yan eh.
44:50.5
Medyo lilinaw yung tubig
44:54.0
Yan ang goal natin dito.
44:59.7
shoutout naman sa kasban niya
45:00.9
si Orlando Coronel
45:04.0
Wow, maraming salamat
45:08.6
Dane Cabrera Coronel.
45:10.4
And kay Sir Orlando,
45:12.3
maraming maraming salamat po.
45:20.6
si Dory Leganzon Reyes.
45:26.8
maraming salamat,
45:27.7
natanggap na rin niya yung t-shirt.
45:29.6
Merong bagong dumating yan,
45:30.9
pero konti pa lang.
45:35.7
ang dami na ikahanap eh.
45:55.7
Send us your video,
45:57.4
your video opinion
46:01.3
focus on the facts,
46:03.9
Hanggang bukas po
46:06.5
Padala niya po sa akin
46:07.4
sa aking Facebook page
46:08.7
through the messenger.
46:10.7
through messenger
46:11.9
yung inyo pong video.
46:13.2
Up to one minute.
46:18.8
Medyo gutom na po ako ah.
46:21.8
Kita-kita po tayo.
46:30.9
Ayan ang maganda naman
46:34.1
Mararecord to after this eh.
46:35.5
So pwede mo siyang balikan.
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Pwedeng on demand.
46:41.0
Maraming salamat sa'yo.
46:52.2
Shoutout sa kanyang daughter
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na masipag daw mag-duty
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sa Notre Dame Baguio.
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Tsaka hi sa iyong anak.
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Ano ba yung Notre Dame Baguio?
47:05.4
Ano po ba yung hospital?
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Pasensya na po ah.
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May episode tayo tomorrow.
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Nagkita-kita po tayo ulit.
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maraming maraming salamat po.
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Pagandang gabi po.
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Thank you for watching!
