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Presscon TAPE INC | December 13, 2023
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Ang paglilinaw ni Atty. Maggie Garduque ng TAPE Inc kaugnay sa issue ng Trademark Registration.
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First of all po, I would like to thank lahat po ng mga kapatid para masang press conference po.
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I know it's just a short notice.
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I don't know kung anong sabi niyo po ng press conference.
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But it appears na halos nandito po lahat.
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Kaya hindi natin salamat po ako sa pagpunta niyo.
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So, we decided to hold a press conference.
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Kaya ang dami kong questions sa David Farberated.
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Para lang po, isa ang sabot na.
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So, we decided that we gather all the press at lahat po nang tanong niyo ang nasabot mo namin.
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Regarding po sa recent issues on the trademark and also in the copyright registration and issues of David Farberated.
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And yung mga allegations from the PHA.
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So, patulad nila po ng mga nabalabas sa news.
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So, noong December 5 po, we confirmed that we have received a decision from the adjudicator officer.
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Adjudication officer of the Bureau of Human Affairs of the Intellectual Property Office.
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Canceling the registration, trademark registration of David Farberated at Gulaga.
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Sa nice classes under number 16, 18, 21, and 35.
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So, narisiglo po.
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So, hindi po namin yung December 6.
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A day after we have received yung decision ng adjudication officer ng BLA ng IFO.
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Yung order from the Bureau of Trade doon po sa appeal ng taking part in the application of David Farberated.
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So, yun po yung mga recent developments.
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So, gusto lang po namin laruhin na dahil nga may maraming mga pending cases.
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Yung mga dumadating sa akin ng mga questions na ito po ba yung ano po ba yung nababas sa desisyon?
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Desisyon po ba ito ng Korte?
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Desisyon po ba ito ng Maritimang Court?
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Desisyon po ba ito ng IFO?
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So, ang mga pending cases po kasi ay ito.
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So, noong April 2, nag-file po ng Petition for Cancellation ang PDJ ng Trademark Registration of David Farberated at Gulaga.
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So, that's on April 2.
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Two days after po malis.
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Two days.
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June 2 sila nag-file.
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June 2, 2023, nag-file po sila ng Petition for Cancellation.
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So, that was two days after nagdalo ng severance ng relationship ang taking part trader ng PDJ.
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So, ito yung may-announce na po sila noong May 31 na alisan sila sa David Farberated.
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David Farberated.
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So, two days after that, nag-file po sila ng Petition for Cancellation.
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So, noon pong April 27, 2023, nag-file po ng application for registration si Joey Balayon for Trademark of Igbolaga.
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Noong March 22, 2023, nag-file po ng application for Trademark Registration ang PDJ naman.
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So, noon pong June 13, nag-file naman po sa RPC, Original Trial Court of Marikina, ang PDJ for complaint for copyright infringement with application for TRO or Deferred Restraint Order Entity Junction.
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So, yun po yung mga penalties.
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Ngayon, ano po yung lumabas na desisyon?
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Hmm.
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So ang lumabas po is yung desisyon ayun pong sa petisyon na lang yung June 2 for cancellation of trademark registration na nakabimbil po sa Intellectual Property Office.
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So kinaklara po namin na hindi po ito yung sa marketing number. So ang lumabas po is yung desisyon na nakabimbil hindi po sa Director General ng IPO, kundi sa Adjudication Office pa lang po ng Bureau of Legal Affairs.
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Kaya po kung makikita niyo po yung desisyon, ang nakatirma po doon ay ang Adjudication Officer.
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Kung bagay siya po yung Hearing Officer doon po doon sa Bureau of...
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Law of Legal Affairs na isa po sa mga Bureau ng Intellectual Property Office.
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So yun po yung na received po namin noong December 5.
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So dahil po ang desisyon ay mountain Hole now
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Adjudication Officer or Hearing Officer ng Bureau of Legal Affairs ng IPO
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ha tulad na po ng statement ng IPO
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na alam ko na nabasa naman po ito.
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Hindi nyo dahil po ito is a public statement ng IPO
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na nagt hospitality
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nila yung December 6,
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ay sinasabi naman nila na
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itong desisyon
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ng adjudication officer ng Bureau of
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Legal Affairs ay appealable.
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O pwede po ito, may appeal
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na ng TAPE Incorporated
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within 15 days sa
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director ng Bureau of
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Legal Affairs. So, ang
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adjudication officer po,
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meron po mas mataas sa kanya,
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yun po yung director ng
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Bureau of Legal Affairs. So,
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doon po ay a-appel na yung desisyon
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ng Bureau officer o yung
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adjudication officer. And even po
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na hindi pa rin maging okay
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ang desisyon, it will still be
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a syllable yung desisyon ng director
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of Legal Affairs, ito po yung
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desisyon ng Legal Affairs,
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ay pwede pa rin ay-appel na sa
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director general o yung
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pinakamataas na opisyal
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ng Intellectual Property Office
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or IPO Frequencies Board.
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At confirmed din naman po nila
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at review po ng
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lawyer po ng PBJ, na ito
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kahit po matapos ang case sa
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IPO, ay pwede pa rin po itong
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i-appel sa Court of Appeals and
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Supreme Court. So, ano pong
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ibig sabihin nito? Bakit po po
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in-explain? So, this just means
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na hindi pa po pinal
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ang desisyon ng adjudication
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officer ng DLA
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or Bureau of Legal Affairs.
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Dahil po, akilawal pa siya,
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hindi pa po
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tapos o
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kumbaga po yung findings
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ng adjudication officer
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ng Bureau of Legal Affairs,
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ay maaaring pa pong ma-reverse
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or maaaring din ma-affirm
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on appeal. Kaya po
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ang sinasabi po namin para po wala
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maging confusion at magkaroon ng
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na ito na talaga yung desisyon,
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ay pagbigyan naman po natin
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yung akilagi namin na
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makaakyat
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at marinig din at
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huwag po natin i-preempt ang
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desisyon ng
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body na mag-pre-review
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or mag-review.
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Pag magtitingin ulit
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nitong desisyon ng
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adjudication officer
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at
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dahil na po hindi pa siya pinal,
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ay hindi pa po pwedeng i-execute.
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Yan naman po ay napaka
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basic po sa
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lahat ng mga kaso at
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legal proceedings at legal processes
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ng isang desisyon na hindi pa pinal
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ay hindi pa pwedeng i-execute.
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Ano pong ibig sabihin namin
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hindi pwedeng i-execute? Ibig sabihin po
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halimbawa, okay,
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ito ang case of cancellation
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kasi natin kinacancel ang adjudication officer
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hindi pa siya pinal
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o sa ibig sabihin, hindi pa siya pwedeng i-cancel talaga.
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Kaya,
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makikita niyo po, if you check the website
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of the IPO, makikita niyo
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pa rin po doon na
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doon pong
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status
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ng registration
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ng IPO
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naging incorporated
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sa IPO
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ay still registered pa rin po.
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So,
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you can check it as of
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up to date
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ang registration status
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ng ITBULAGA, ng team incorporated
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for ITBULAGA and trademark
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ay still registered po sa ANGRA.
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Existing pa rin po and widely.
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As regards
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status of the application of
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Joey De Leon for trademark
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registration,
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up to this date po, makikita niyo po
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sa website and I can advise you that
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ang nakalagay pa rin po ay
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pending.
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So, pending pa rin po
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yung kanya application for registration.
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Kaya, kung gusto lang po namin,
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pwede po rin, sa benefit din naman po
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ng IPO,
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huwag po natin yung
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bigyan ka agad ng pangulugan na
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kasi ang mga lumalabas po pa siya na
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na
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news or mga statements
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ay na-award na.
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Na-award na po yung trademark registration
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at sir Joey De Leon,
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eh tingnan naman po natin
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kung ano po yung nakalagay pa sa website.
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Pending pa rin naman po siya.
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So, dahil nga po,
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pending po siya dahil pala po po
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pinag-decision. It's only up to
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that point or up to that time
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kung maging final ang decision
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ng isang kaso,
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doon lang po
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may execute and in this particular case,
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case of cancellation, doon lang po
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makansala. So, ang
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position po ng team incorporated is as follows.
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Now, we still have the registration
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of the trademark of
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Itbulaga as can be seen from the website
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of IPO. There's still no
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award being given to
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Joey De Leon as regards the registration
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or trademark registration
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of Itbulaga
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trademark. Kaya po ang
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position po ng team
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incorporated ay maaaring
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pa rin po namin gamitin
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ang Itbulaga bilang
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sa aming show kasi po nasa
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aming pa rin po ang
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trademark registration nito until such time
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na may final na decision
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na hindi na namin ito pwede gamitin
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sakalang pwede ganitin ito
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ng team incorporated.
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Doon din naman po sa decision, kung
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nabasa na po yung decision na
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inilabas ng adjudication
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officer ng BLA of
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ITO, wala rin naman po
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nakalagay doon na dahil
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sa decision na ito ay pinagbabawalan
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na namin ang team incorporated
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ng Itbulaga.
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You can read that
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decision and it's nowhere to be found
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po na mayroong nakalagay
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na ganon. So dahil wala
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pong nakalagay na ganon
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susundin lang po namin kung ano yung nasa
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decision. I know that there is
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a call on team incorporated
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to respect
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the decision. We are
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respecting the decision po
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and we are respecting the process
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and this
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same respect, kaya po
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kumaka pala kami sa
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Bureau of Legal Affairs Director.
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It is the same respect
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na kahit po para po sa amin
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hindi naman po kami agreeable sa
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namin decision, ay
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irerespeto po namin ang proseso,
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ang legal process, at
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magpapile po kami ng
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appeal. And yesterday
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nga po, we have already filed
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our
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appeal.
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So ito po yung appeal na kailangan
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namin. Pakahanda po
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sa atin ng aming
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handling counsel sa
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IPO ang Changko Xiao
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Belvan Associates Law Office.
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Kaya po makikita nyo na even the
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email that is used is reposed sa law office
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ng mother ni Xiao.
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Ito po, final po ito
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via email, kasi po ang filing po
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sa IPO is via email.
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So final po December
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so yesterday po
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final at around
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4 am po.
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Sa
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Bureau of Legal Affairs.
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Ito po yung sinasabi po ka pala
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sa director ng
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Bureau of Legal Affairs o yung pong
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head ng bureau
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na nag-release
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ng decision.
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So
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hihintayin po natin under the
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rules po, papasagot din po sila doon
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sa deal natin. Tapos
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saka po kong nidesign ang
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Bureau of Legal Affairs. So ang sa amin
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na po sa date before created, sana namin po
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irerespeto din po natin yung proseso
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na until such time po
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na wala pang final na desisyon
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ang lahat ng
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agencies na dadaanan
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ng asong ito ay
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let us take
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and respect the registration
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of tape imporporator. Yun lang naman po
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ang hindi gawin po namin.
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And if there are a lot of
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but because po sa amin dahil
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dahil ginagamit pa rin po namin yung
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itbulaga, hindi naman po namin
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ito ginagamit dahil wala pa kami
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basahan. Basihan. Ang basihan sa
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amin is still
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counting on our
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or revoking our registration
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that up to this point
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is still untapped.
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So ayun po.
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Thank you.
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Pagkakita na muna natin yung trademark na
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ito. Kasi lagi nila sinasabi
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na ang pinagpunin nyo ng trademark
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ay sa region palestin.
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Ah, hindi doon sa
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entertainment.
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Oo, hindi doon sa entertainment.
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Yung lagi nila sinasabihin na
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pwede na nila kahit wala po rin yung
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decision na yan, pwede na nalang
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ginagamit pa rin yung itbulaga.
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Kasi merchandise pa naman daw yung
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trademark. Kaya final nga.
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Ano nga talaga yung trademark?
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Kailangan nyo. Tapos diretsyo ka na rin po
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yung sinasabi nila na
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na dinisnis yung
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kailangan nyo doon sa class 41
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na final nga
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i-join nyo yun.
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Ah, kaya sabi mo
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kailangan nila pending. So ano yun?
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Ah, yun po.
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Ah, under the rules po,
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kaya po sa
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sa
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dismissal of
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denial po ng appeal doon sa application
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i-join na rin yung class 41.
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So because of the denial of the
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appeal, we still have a period of
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30 days to appeal that
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decision to the Director General.
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Kaya po makikita nyo na
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up to this date, pending pa rin po yung
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application i-join na rin yun
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sa trademark application niya.
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Kasi nga po yung
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decision po na yun is still
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appealable within 30 days sa Director General.
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So the next course of action
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of Team Incorporated through our
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Handling Council po
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sa na-Attorney Chau,
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ay mag-confine po
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ng appeal doon po
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sa denial ng
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penesyon doon sa
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appeal
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doon sa denial ng appeal
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or opposition doon sa
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registration,
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application for registration
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i-join na rin yun.
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Pending pwede na ba yun?
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Kung pending naman, ano ang gabi namin nito?
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Kung pending naman yun.
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Yung opposition po kasi because we oppose also
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the application.
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The application.
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So meron po kasi maliit
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issue doon po sa
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finding of the
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opposition. Kasi po diba under the rules
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find po ng application
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for registration si i-join na rin yun.
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So it was
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published
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August 29,
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2023.
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Team Incorporated
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po na yung na-publish
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na application
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ay maging po ang date.
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Kasi po ang application ko ni
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Joey De Leon
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was filed on March 20,
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March 22, 2023.
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Ang nalagay po
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doon sa pre-publish
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ng IPO is
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July 2023.
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So kaya po si
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Team Incorporated ang IPO
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at sinabi mali po yung na-publish na.
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Kaya po dapat i-republish.
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So gumawa po
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ang Team Incorporated, gumawa po ang
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IPO ng Karate.
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Oo. Kasi sila
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nagkamali. Nagkamali kasi
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doon sa date ng
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filing of application
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ng Sir Joey De Leon. So sinabi nila
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na, so
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sinabi nila na nagkamali na. So that's why
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na may eratong at binago nila
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na March 22
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ang
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date of application ni
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Joey De Leon. Kaya lang po
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hindi po na-publish
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yun po ang
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application already na ang nakalagay na
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March 22,
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2023.
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Ang na-publish lang po is the
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eratong.
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Kaya po ang sa amin po under the
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rules kasi
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dapat po kapag may, kasi ang
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dapat i-publish mo, isang tama.
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Diba? So kaya
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noong ang binabit ko
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ng aming Handling
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Council, ang filing
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the opposition is the
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date ng kailangan na-publish
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niya ako. Hindi yung date ng
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kailangan na-publish, yung mali.
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So kaya po nung nadaroon po
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ng filing, allegedly
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ah
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in-opposed po yun ng county na
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ang council
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at sinabi, na-leave daw po
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yung filing ng aming Handling Council
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of the
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opposition. So
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it's a technicality
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that it happened for the first time.
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So na nag-aral ng patahamali
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sa date of application.
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Tapos so issue pa rin po
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kung ah
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it's also another issue on whether or not
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are you going to publish
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only the eratong or ipapublish
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nga yung own application.
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Kasama nga ako yun.
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May tamang date
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at hindi nag-apply.
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So yun po yung pin-appeal po namin
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ah, kaya po may appeal
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kuya George.
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Kaya parang klare din po
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at tama po si Kuya George na paano
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may kaalang ka-aalang ng appeal
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eh nandun pa rin naman yan sa opposition.
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Pwede pa rin no application
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it's a very good question kuya George
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na paano kamunta ka noon
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ka-aalang ng appeal eh wala pa namang
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desisyon doon sa
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pending application.
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Pending application.
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So yung appeal po na yun is
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to the filing
18:27.5
of the opposition na dapat
18:29.5
bang tanggapin yung opposition
18:31.5
on the date it was
18:33.5
published on the eratong
18:35.5
or on the date na pinablish yung
18:37.5
maling application.
18:39.5
And that appeal
18:41.5
the first appeal
18:43.5
was denied?
18:45.5
Yes po.
18:47.5
Kasi kaya di naman
18:49.5
kasi wala nga po.
18:51.5
So, kaya po
18:53.5
ay,
18:55.5
akong pita po namin siya sa
18:57.5
Director General ng ALP.
18:59.5
Wait, wait.
19:01.5
Yung EAP
19:03.5
pwede nilang gamitin ang
19:05.5
item ng ALP?
19:07.5
Para sa ALP po hindi. Kasi po
19:09.5
number one, after this date
19:11.5
if you would check the website
19:13.5
the registration is still not yet been validated.
19:15.5
As regards to registration,
19:17.5
I know with the layon,
19:19.5
pending pa rin naman po.
19:21.5
So we are still saying
19:23.5
that there is still no registration
19:25.5
under the law of the layon
19:27.5
of the trademark
19:29.5
of its borrower.
19:31.5
Tapos yung sa question ng
19:33.5
trade borrower,
19:35.5
dun kayo sa appeal namin,
19:37.5
sinayak po namin that there are only
19:39.5
two ways para ma-acquire mo
19:41.5
ang trademark.
19:43.5
May sabihin na ikaw ang may-ari ng trademark.
19:45.5
Number one is prior use
19:47.5
and number two is registration.
19:49.5
Ano yung may-ari?
19:51.5
Ginamit po ang
19:53.5
trademark na yun, pinakommercialize
19:55.5
kasi po ano po ba ang
19:57.5
trademark?
19:59.5
Kasi ang dami na po naman
20:01.5
na technicality about
20:03.5
ano po ba ang kachakaiba ng
20:05.5
trademark sa copyright.
20:07.5
Ito ng confusion
20:09.5
kung nag-file ng
20:11.5
copyright infringement
20:13.5
sa RBC Maliglina.
20:15.5
So ang trademark po kasi,
20:17.5
ay word or book of words
20:19.5
kasama rin po yung logo
20:21.5
that would differentiate
20:23.5
goods or services
20:25.5
na
20:27.5
ginagamit mo
20:29.5
sa business or sa trade
20:31.5
from goods and services
20:33.5
of others.
20:35.5
So kaya po kung titignan mo
20:37.5
yung prior use na
20:39.5
sinasabi ng trademark, sino yung
20:41.5
unang gumamit ng trademark?
20:43.5
Gumamit ng trademark
20:45.5
in a commercial sense.
20:47.5
Ito rin ginagamit mo sa RBC Maliglina.
20:49.5
So kaya nga po
20:51.5
doon po sa aming
20:53.5
appeal, sinabi po namin
20:55.5
yung
20:57.5
naging basihan
20:59.5
ng desisyon
21:01.5
na ang sinasabi, ang owner daw po
21:03.5
ng
21:05.5
trademark
21:07.5
na ito lang lagi si Joey
21:09.5
dahil siya lang po ang nag-create
21:11.5
or nakaisip ang itong pangalan.
21:15.5
Nag-site po kami doon ng mga
21:17.5
isang Supreme Court na nasasabi
21:19.5
na ang
21:21.5
originator ng isang trademark
21:23.5
ay yung unang
21:25.5
gumamit in a commercial sense.
21:27.5
Assuming po, just for the sake
21:29.5
of argument, na si Mr. Joey
21:31.5
de Leon ang naka-isip po
21:33.5
noon ng pangalang
21:35.5
Itgulagang.
21:37.5
Noon yung time na yun,
21:39.5
nung naisip na yun, wala naman po siyang
21:41.5
business. Wala naman po siyang
21:43.5
goods or service
21:45.5
na masasabi.
21:47.5
Noong naisip na yun,
21:49.5
ginamit po ang Itgulagang
21:51.5
for the exclusive use
21:53.5
of a show that was produced
21:55.5
by PSI before
21:57.5
or by the Households
21:59.5
which became later on
22:01.5
to Tape Incorporated.
22:03.5
So kung
22:05.5
isipin po natin yung prior use
22:07.5
ng originator,
22:09.5
masasabi po namin na
22:11.5
Tape Incorporated po ang owner
22:13.5
ng trademark na yun. Kasi kami po ang
22:15.5
unang gumamit ng
22:17.5
Itgulagang
22:19.5
for business,
22:21.5
for a show, which is the
22:23.5
product na sinasabi,
22:25.5
that would differentiate that
22:27.5
product from another product
22:29.5
na lang doon sa commercial
22:31.5
trade and business.
22:33.5
Ah,
22:35.5
registration. So wala
22:37.5
kami rin po ang registration.
22:39.5
Wala rin po siyang registration. Kaya
22:41.5
ang ilalim po namin, ano yung basis
22:43.5
na magiging owner ka ng isang
22:45.5
bagay, na isang trademark,
22:47.5
na hindi ka naman,
22:49.5
na hindi mo siya ginamit. Kasi
22:51.5
halimbawa, ako ba,
22:53.5
ah, may mga lumabas nga
22:55.5
sa social media, na sabi ko,
22:57.5
ito na yung time effect ng mga business.
22:59.5
Kaya nga po din namin in-appel-a.
23:01.5
Kasi I think, ah,
23:03.5
this would, ah,
23:05.5
oo, in the future, it would
23:07.5
be very material to all businesses, eh.
23:09.5
Kasi, di mo alam mo,
23:11.5
nakita akong isang nag-post doon
23:13.5
na, oo, o yun lang.
23:15.5
Yung lahat nang nakaisip sa isang
23:17.5
party ng board na Showtime.
23:19.5
Come on, let's have a Showtime.
23:21.5
At pwede na raw ipa-cancel yung
23:23.5
registration ng show ng
23:25.5
ABS-CBN na Showtime. Kasi siya ang nakaisip
23:27.5
noon. Eh hindi naman po niya
23:29.5
in-appel yung board na yun in a business sense.
23:31.5
So hindi na po ba
23:33.5
makoprotectahan ang ABS-CBN
23:35.5
ng kanyang registration from Showtime?
23:37.5
Para po sa amin, it would really
23:39.5
take chaos po kung
23:41.5
hindi mo namin i-appel ang
23:43.5
registration na ito. So sana po,
23:45.5
ma-consider din po yung ganyang
23:47.5
ah, alam nila,
23:49.5
may mga sipento at
23:51.5
ground po namin.
23:53.5
At Tony, ba't sinasabi na,
23:55.5
sabi ng sumagay nung mabasa report
23:57.5
ay sa statement ng IPO na
23:59.5
yung tape, hindi nila na-defend
24:01.5
yung title
24:03.5
kahit kulagyan na talagang
24:05.5
sa kanila. Oo.
24:07.5
Dahil nga po ang naging basis po doon sa
24:09.5
decision of the ownership is
24:11.5
the term creation.
24:13.5
At sa kanila po kasi,
24:15.5
may-ari daw po lang
24:17.5
isang trademark ay hindi po na-create.
24:19.5
Siya daw po ang original.
24:21.5
Para po sa amin,
24:23.5
that word really
24:25.5
should be copyright.
24:27.5
Kasi po ang
24:29.5
creation po ay
24:31.5
makikita mo kaya sa mga
24:33.5
jurisprudence
24:35.5
ng copyright
24:37.5
at mga copyright infringement. Kasi yun po yung
24:39.5
merong artistic word.
24:41.5
Kasi is people-oriented
24:43.5
or local, di ba?
24:45.5
Hindi pinag-uusapan sa isang trademark
24:47.5
kung sino yung
24:49.5
naka-isip siya. Kung di,
24:51.5
kung sino yung gumamit
24:53.5
in commercial sense.
24:55.5
Yun ang coordinator.
24:57.5
Hindi yung naka-isip. Kasi po ang
24:59.5
naka-isip, dito ang daming naka-isip
25:01.5
ng trademark. Pwedeng
25:03.5
si Ma'am Donuts bagay
25:05.5
namin doon sa kanyang
25:07.5
sa kanyang restaurant. I mean, naka-usap na
25:09.5
dati lang, may naka-isip na
25:11.5
McDonald's. Kasi may mga apelidong
25:13.5
McDonald's. Di ba? So, hindi
25:15.5
pwedeng wala kang business
25:17.5
tapos ipapakancel mo lang yung
25:19.5
registration ng isang established business.
25:21.5
Dahil sasabihin mo ako,
25:23.5
Yun po ang aming
25:25.5
Yun po ang aming stand.
25:27.5
Yun po ay stand namin. Hindi naman po
25:29.5
namin sinasabing doon na, tama, dahil
25:31.5
naka-usip na nga po. Pero ito po ang
25:33.5
stand ng take home
25:35.5
item. Isa pa po sa naging ground
25:37.5
namin doon sa aming cancellation
25:39.5
ay meron po mga
25:41.5
natanong mo nga Ate Rose
25:43.5
na hindi daw na-defend
25:45.5
nung tape incorporated o nilang
25:47.5
titolo doon sa kaso.
25:49.5
Nag-submit po kami ng lahat
25:51.5
ng mga ebedensya.
25:53.5
Even po mga akulidit
25:55.5
ni Tobi Toguera na nagsasabi
25:57.5
na talagang itong
25:59.5
itong bulaga ay
26:01.5
ginamit.
26:03.5
Naisip man ni Joey yan ay alam
26:05.5
naman niya na gagamit din sa show.
26:07.5
Kasi ang sinasabing po ni Sir Tobi Toguera
26:09.5
sa kanyang akulidit.
26:11.5
ay meron pong listahan
26:13.5
daw ng mga
26:15.5
titles na
26:17.5
doon sa listahan daw
26:19.5
maghuli si Joey
26:21.5
Carlos Jose Senor. Nang magiging
26:23.5
titolo ng show
26:25.5
na ipoproduce ng TSI
26:27.5
during the pandemic.
26:29.5
So sinabi ni Tobi Toguera
26:31.5
na alam naman
26:33.5
ni Joey na
26:35.5
iyong pangalan na iyon ay
26:37.5
isasama sa listahan
26:39.5
si Carlos Jose Senor.
26:41.5
So kung hindi mapipili na Carlos Jose Senor
26:43.5
hindi iyon ang gagamit din
26:45.5
ng title ng show.
26:47.5
So the decision kung sino
26:49.5
kung ano ang gagamit
26:51.5
ng titolo ng show
26:53.5
ng TSI
26:55.5
during that time
26:57.5
na i-incorporated na iyon
26:59.5
ay ang chairman po ng TSI
27:01.5
who is Romeo Carlos Jose Senor.
27:03.5
So kaya po
27:05.5
kung makikita niyo doon
27:07.5
yung case ng
27:09.5
SEMA restaurant. May bago po
27:11.5
kumabas ng desisyon ng Supreme Court.
27:13.5
It was just October 20,
27:15.5
2023, when the
27:17.5
Honorable Supreme Court issued
27:19.5
with finality
27:21.5
yung desisyon doon sa SEMA
27:23.5
restaurant trade court.
27:25.5
Sinabi po doon ng Supreme Court
27:27.5
na ang may
27:29.5
prior use daw po ay
27:31.5
yung SEMA partnership.
27:33.5
At
27:35.5
alam naman daw po
27:37.5
Sir Zulueta
27:39.5
yung petitioner doon sa kaso na iyon
27:41.5
na yung pangalan
27:43.5
kahit siya pa ang nag-conceive
27:45.5
ang term po ng Supreme Court doon
27:47.5
sa nakaisip ay conceive
27:49.5
kahit siya daw po ang nag-conceive
27:51.5
ng trademark ng SEMA restaurant
27:53.5
ay
27:55.5
alam niya na ang pangalan
27:57.5
na iyon ay exclusively
27:59.5
gagamitin ng partnership
28:01.5
para sa restaurant na itatayo
28:03.5
ng partnership.
28:05.5
Given that,
28:07.5
I swear you,
28:09.5
with the case of
28:11.5
Tape Incorporated,
28:13.5
you didn't bother to explain
28:15.5
more to me
28:17.5
about that trademark.
28:19.5
Ganoon din po doon kasi alam naman po
28:21.5
Mr. Joey, doon na iyon ay
28:23.5
allegedly siya yung nag-conceive
28:25.5
ng title na Itulaga
28:27.5
na yung old title na iyon
28:29.5
will be for the exclusive use
28:31.5
of the show that will be
28:33.5
produced by PSI and
28:35.5
in 1979.
28:37.5
And until now,
28:39.5
kahit before po sila umalis,
28:41.5
ginagamit po.
28:43.5
There's a continuous
28:45.5
and uninterrupted use
28:47.5
of that trademark
28:49.5
in the show of Tape Incorporated.
28:53.5
Sinasabi po na
28:55.5
hindi na na-justified
28:57.5
pero sinasabi din naman po namin
28:59.5
na nagigay kami ng lahat ng
29:01.5
mga ebedensya in fact,
29:03.5
ito po kaming sa aplik po namin
29:05.5
sinabi na may mga ebedensya eh
29:07.5
na kinonsider
29:09.5
ng adjudication officer ng
29:11.5
DLA
29:13.5
ebedensya ng
29:15.5
TBJ
29:17.5
o na petitioner sa petition
29:19.5
for cancellation,
29:21.5
na kinonsider pero hindi siya
29:23.5
inadmit during the hearing.
29:25.5
And doon po kasing
29:27.5
nag-hearing sa adjudication
29:29.5
office ng DLA,
29:31.5
dalawang ebedensya lang po,
29:33.5
doon po sa TBJ,
29:35.5
yun po ay yung 2023
29:37.5
GIS
29:39.5
or general information sheet
29:41.5
ng Tape Incorporated.
29:45.5
Tapos ang isa is yung joint
29:47.5
affidavit of the petitioner.
29:49.5
Yun lang po yung dalawang
29:51.5
ebedensya ng Tape Incorporated.
29:53.5
Kaya lang po, doon po sa diskusyon,
29:55.5
napansin po ng Tape Incorporated
29:57.5
na meron po si Night before
29:59.5
na judicial affidavit
30:01.5
yung nakalagay po sa judicial affidavit
30:03.5
ng DLA, which was not
30:05.5
admitted during
30:07.5
the hearing. So kaya po,
30:09.5
isa din po yung sa nirelease po namin,
30:11.5
na it was not admitted during the hearing.
30:13.5
So why is it considered
30:15.5
in the decision?
30:19.5
Walang iba kinihagi ng 18
30:21.5
kaunay sa regularity na
30:23.5
kinonsidera nilang mga
30:25.5
ebedensya na hindi tinanggap sa DLA?
30:27.5
Ay, napal. Anong alam mo talagang
30:29.5
sir?
30:31.5
Abogado.
30:33.5
Ayan, so ang tinatanggap po ni
30:35.5
sir, ano ulit ka?
30:37.5
I'm Jeremiah Ogla. I'm representing
30:39.5
Prop 98 channel. And at
30:41.5
the same time, may image here
30:43.5
So doon po sa tamang ni
30:45.5
sir Jeremiah, tinatanggap po na
30:47.5
wala po kong kinihahin
30:49.5
o iyahain
30:51.5
legal action po.
30:53.5
Tape Incorporated, dahil nga po sa sinasabi namin,
30:55.5
ay mga na-considered
30:57.5
ebedens doon po sa disisyon
30:59.5
which was not
31:01.5
admitted during the hearing. We're
31:03.5
undertaking also of
31:05.5
filing legal actions. Providing this na
31:07.5
may mga, kung lalo naman kami makita
31:09.5
regularity po doon sa
31:11.5
naging procedure
31:13.5
or sa pagkanda po ng
31:15.5
procedure
31:17.5
sa IPO. We are considering
31:19.5
of filing legal actions.
31:21.5
If you find out that there are really
31:23.5
irregularities, katulad lang kung may mga
31:25.5
disisyon, may mga ebedensya
31:27.5
that was not admitted. May mga
31:29.5
TSN po kasi ito, transcript of
31:31.5
the photographic votes
31:33.5
during the hearing. So,
31:35.5
tonight po namin doon sa aming appeal,
31:37.5
yung hearing na sinasabi,
31:39.5
informating na hindi po
31:41.5
inadmit yung ebedensya ngayon.
31:43.5
Specifically, yung judicial
31:45.5
affidavit ng Mr. Jeremiah was
31:47.5
not admitted as part of the
31:49.5
evidence of the petitioners. But
31:51.5
in the disisyon, it was
31:53.5
cited and was considered
31:55.5
in the disisyon.
31:57.5
Follow up question naman po. As a former,
31:59.5
I was a former brand manager
32:01.5
of a fast-moving consumer group.
32:03.5
And one of the
32:05.5
is our brand to make sure
32:07.5
our brands and trademarks
32:09.5
are secured.
32:11.5
We urge the IDO Philippines
32:13.5
management to take a second look
32:15.5
at their disisyon.
32:17.5
What happened with the low address
32:19.5
statuses that by default, it is
32:21.5
the first registrant who must
32:23.5
be granted perpetual ownership of
32:25.5
the trademark. How will it impact
32:27.5
first the advertising industry
32:29.5
sila po yung nag-replace
32:31.5
ng advertisement sa kumunta yung show
32:33.5
kagaya ng Bulaga, and secondly sa
32:35.5
television, media, and broadcasting?
32:37.5
Ano po ba yun?
32:39.5
Maganda po yung phrase ni Mr. Jeremiah.
32:41.5
Kasi yun nga,
32:43.5
katulad po lang sinasabi nyo,
32:45.5
ka-advertiser ka, tapos
32:47.5
may registration ka na ng brand mo,
32:49.5
of course, you are
32:51.5
relying magka-registration. But you would have
32:53.5
an exclusive and perpetual
32:55.5
use of your trademark
32:57.5
to your brand. Hindi na siyang
32:59.5
mabagal.
33:01.5
May students po kasi sa Supreme Court,
33:03.5
if you have the registration,
33:05.5
dapat talagang ano yun,
33:07.5
kampanya ka na aking yun.
33:09.5
Yun talaga yung ano yun.
33:11.5
Meron lang mga
33:13.5
grounds for cancellation,
33:15.5
katulad nga po yung sinay
33:17.5
doon sa
33:19.5
disisyon, doon sa petisyon.
33:21.5
Ang sinay po kasi ng grounds for cancellation
33:23.5
is non-registration
33:25.5
na non-compliance with
33:27.5
IPO rules
33:29.5
at saka bad faith.
33:31.5
Pero makapagsin nyo po sa disisyon
33:33.5
na with regard to
33:35.5
the
33:37.5
bad faith,
33:39.5
sinabi po ng disisyon
33:41.5
na walang bad faith
33:43.5
si Tate Incorporated.
33:45.5
Tapos wala rin pong na-cite
33:47.5
na any violation
33:49.5
of rules
33:51.5
ng IPO
33:53.5
or intellectual property code,
33:55.5
specifically anong provision
33:57.5
ng intellectual property code na na-violate
33:59.5
Tate Incorporated
34:01.5
nung tinal nila
34:03.5
ang registration nila
34:05.5
for trade market mula.
34:07.5
Kaya po sinasabi namin,
34:09.5
kaya po inapela po namin. Kasi po,
34:11.5
this is the disisyon.
34:13.5
Wala pong ground, wala pong naging
34:15.5
basis ng cancellation.
34:17.5
Kasi ang basis po dapat ay bad faith.
34:19.5
It was fraudulently
34:21.5
filed. Yan po kasi ang
34:23.5
grounds for cancellation.
34:25.5
Pero the disisyon, it's our streets.
34:27.5
So ano po ang ground para
34:31.5
i-cancel ang registration
34:33.5
ng Tate Incorporated?
34:35.5
Under the rules din po,
34:37.5
meron ka ng limang taong
34:39.5
from your registration
34:41.5
para mag-file ng petition
34:43.5
for cancellation of a trademark.
34:45.5
May exemption po yun.
34:47.5
Ang exemption is fraud.
34:49.5
Kung malimawa po ang
34:51.5
niregister na mag-register
34:53.5
ang kanyang trademark
34:55.5
na fraudulent
34:57.5
however the decision states.
34:59.5
Na walang fraud.
35:01.5
So dapat po mag-apply ang
35:03.5
general rule na hindi ka
35:05.5
pwedeng mag-file ng petition
35:07.5
for cancellation after the
35:09.5
five-year period
35:11.5
na naregister na ang trademark.
35:13.5
Kaya po sinasabi ni Sir
35:15.5
Jeremiah na meron perpetual
35:17.5
ownership dapat. Kaya po
35:19.5
sinasabi niyo na, oh kami mga
35:21.5
advertisers, dapat
35:23.5
kapante kami kasi naregister na
35:25.5
namin yung trademark namin. E walang
35:27.5
mag-file ng petition.
35:29.5
Wala akong nag-contest.
35:31.5
Wala akong nag-question within the period of five years.
35:33.5
Kaya po sinasabi ni Sir Jeremiah
35:35.5
na ano ba,
35:37.5
may amin niyo.
35:39.5
Yan po yung sinasabi niyo na globally
35:41.5
yan po yung
35:43.5
basis na
35:45.5
kaya dapat
35:47.5
kung baga sa aking property
35:49.5
diba yung mga land title.
35:51.5
Kasi dapat quiet na yung title.
35:53.5
Dapat quiet na yung title
35:55.5
over that intellectual property.
35:57.5
Kasi wala namang nag-contest
35:59.5
within the five-year period.
36:01.5
The exception ay hindi din
36:03.5
naman po.
36:05.5
Dahil sinasabi na walang
36:07.5
fraud. Therefore the general rule should
36:09.5
apply that
36:11.5
there's no time, there's no petition
36:13.5
for cancellation required
36:15.5
within that five-year period.
36:17.5
Your ownership
36:19.5
of the trademark must be perpetual
36:21.5
and should have exclusively
36:23.5
upheld.
36:25.5
Follow-up question po kasi
36:27.5
lumabahan lang din po kami
36:29.5
yung mga kakilala po natin sa advertising
36:31.5
industry na dahil po sa
36:33.5
desisyon ng IPO Philippines
36:35.5
ay naging madali na
36:37.5
ang cancellation ng trademark
36:39.5
dito sa Philippines. Masasabi
36:41.5
niyo po ba na nagkamali sila sa
36:43.5
desisyon dahil nagkain po to
36:45.5
ng bad precedent
36:47.5
pagdating sa pagsisecurity ng
36:49.5
trademark at
36:51.5
ano po maging impact nito
36:53.5
sa businesses,
36:55.5
foreign investors,
36:57.5
at at the same time sa
36:59.5
movie, television, and sponsors.
37:01.5
Masasabi niyo po ba naging masama
37:03.5
kung naging desisyon nila
37:05.5
dahil sa paggawang nilagay ng
37:07.5
lasing harsh na
37:09.5
desisyon or rash desisyon
37:11.5
ng IPO Philippines. Hindi ko po
37:13.5
masisise kung maraming mga
37:15.5
business-businesses, actually
37:17.5
even po sa industry, ang iba po
37:19.5
mga producers na napausap ko
37:21.5
dahil nga po, dahil nga po
37:23.5
naka-choose, narinig ko ako.
37:25.5
So may mga cliente po ako mga
37:27.5
producers din. So
37:29.5
nung kinanong-kinanong nakikita ko
37:31.5
nila yung description nila, gano'n po talaga nila
37:33.5
po na parang po producer kami.
37:35.5
Paano nga yun po? Ano yung
37:37.5
gagawin namin sa isang
37:39.5
trademark owner
37:41.5
itong brand na to at itong
37:43.5
show na to? Pwede ba
37:45.5
ibig-basta lang magpa-cancel
37:47.5
ang item niya yun ng 5-year period
37:49.5
kahit walang fraud? Tapos sasabihin
37:51.5
siyang niya, basta na nakikisip siya,
37:53.5
nakuha siyang kwento, siya
37:55.5
naka-isip mo. So yun po yung parang
37:57.5
naging fear doon ng mga nakausap ko
37:59.5
because of that decision.
38:01.5
That is why po,
38:03.5
we are appealing to the
38:05.5
Intellectual Property Office.
38:07.5
Now po is a good opportunity
38:09.5
that we should take a second
38:11.5
look of this decision.
38:13.5
Baka maaari pong
38:15.5
tingnan po eh. Because it would be
38:17.5
take down
38:19.5
business transactions,
38:21.5
di ba,
38:23.5
out of the future talagang
38:25.5
hindi lang po sa
38:27.5
industry eh. Kasi kahit po sa ibang
38:29.5
businesses, tulad niya po di ba yung
38:31.5
restaurant business ng CIMA,
38:33.5
di ba,
38:35.5
ito lang na rin po yung trademark niya
38:37.5
at talagang ipinaglaba niya ng
38:39.5
Supreme Court. So nakita niya naman po
38:41.5
that even with the CIMA
38:43.5
decision, umabot po niya
38:45.5
ng Supreme Court. Hindi po siya natapos
38:47.5
nang hanggang IPO na. At hindi po
38:49.5
sinabi ng CIMA na
38:51.5
na may desisyon ng IPO, eh ito
38:53.5
na yung pinagladesisyon. So ito po
38:55.5
sa CIMA desisyon, nakita niya po
38:57.5
na umabot po yun.
38:59.5
Nag-do ng process at umabot po yun
39:01.5
ng hanggang
39:03.5
Supreme Court. So kaya po sinasabi
39:05.5
namin na given all the jurisprudence
39:07.5
of trademark
39:09.5
ah, trademark
39:11.5
at intellectual property, hindi po
39:13.5
pinala ang desisyon
39:15.5
na nililist ng Adjudication Office
39:17.5
of the Bureau of Federal Affairs.
39:19.5
Ang last, ang
39:21.5
last resort po natin ngayon.
39:23.5
Supreme Court. Attorney, dito
39:25.5
sa bagong apela ninyo po, may mga bago
39:27.5
ba kayong evidences or mga
39:29.5
sinabit na
39:31.5
yun, mga evident of the counter
39:33.5
din yan, ah? Ah, inanong po namin
39:35.5
kasi yung, ang inatak po namin
39:37.5
is specifically yung basis of the
39:39.5
decision. Kasi po, ang appeal
39:41.5
po kasi is ah,
39:43.5
dapat, hindi ka po pwede mag-
39:45.5
present ng panibagong evidences eh.
39:47.5
Kasi po, ano lang po yung na-present mo sa
39:49.5
babae, dapat po, yan lang din po yung
39:51.5
pre-consider, magulat mo sa
39:53.5
korte, nilimbawa, ay natin naman isang
39:55.5
desisyon ng lower court sa
39:57.5
appellate court, ang
39:59.5
ang ina-review lang po is kung ano
40:01.5
yung na-present mo sa babae.
40:03.5
So, ang sa amin po, yung lahat ng mga pre-
40:05.5
nasent sa babae, sinasabi po namin
40:07.5
na number one, meron po
40:09.5
kina-consider ng hindi na-present. Okay. So,
40:11.5
number one po yun. Number two, meron
40:13.5
kaming pre-nasent na hindi kina-
40:15.5
consider.
40:17.5
Tapos, number three,
40:19.5
the idea of, ah,
40:21.5
the ground for cancellation,
40:23.5
ah,
40:25.5
wala dun sa desisyon. Dahil
40:27.5
ang ground for cancellation ay bad faith.
40:29.5
Sabi sa desisyon, walang
40:31.5
bad faith. So, gusto namin kitanong
40:33.5
sa appellate body po,
40:35.5
sa amount of basis, kung wala naman
40:37.5
parang bad faith. Tapos, ah,
40:39.5
wala rin fraud. So, kakit hindi
40:41.5
ko-consider yung aming, ah,
40:43.5
argument na dapat hindi na
40:45.5
pwede mag-file dito sa five-year
40:47.5
period, eh wala naman palang fraud.
40:49.5
Tapos, nag-raise din kami ng
40:51.5
idea of latches. Meron
40:53.5
kong Supreme Court decision.
40:55.5
It is the case of, ah, pag-asa.
40:57.5
Ah, sinabi ko ng
40:59.5
Supreme Court doon, in fact,
41:01.5
doon sa case ng pag-asa,
41:03.5
after seven years,
41:05.5
nag-file yung petitioner
41:07.5
ng petition
41:09.5
for cancellation ng trademark.
41:11.5
Sinabi ng Supreme Court
41:13.5
na after seven years ka lang
41:15.5
nag-file, it should be considered
41:17.5
as latches. Ano po ba latches?
41:19.5
Ang latches ay yung meron
41:21.5
ng karatakan na for unreasonable
41:23.5
length of time, hindi na
41:25.5
na-raise. Kaya sinasabi
41:27.5
ng, ng Supreme Court that
41:29.5
this is tantamount to abandonment
41:31.5
of crime. Na-raise mo
41:33.5
yung rightful claim. In this particular
41:35.5
case, TPG filed
41:37.5
a petition after ten
41:39.5
years from the registration
41:41.5
of it incorporated
41:43.5
of their trademark. If you will use
41:45.5
the position of pag-asa na
41:47.5
seven years lang hindi na na-raise ng Supreme Court,
41:49.5
how much more?
41:51.5
Ten years.
41:53.5
Bakit parang hindi nila nakita yan?
41:55.5
And that,
41:57.5
that's why we want to file our appeal
41:59.5
so that hopefully
42:01.5
they can review
42:03.5
and re-look, makita ulit.
42:05.5
Bakit kung hindi ulit makita yan,
42:07.5
ay ganoon lang tinunan.
42:09.5
And then kung may makakita
42:11.5
sa aming pag-grounds,
42:13.5
So paulit-ulit?
42:15.5
Diba higit talaga ang may karapatan
42:17.5
ng pag-asa?
42:19.5
Is the producer
42:21.5
na the talent? Diba yan ang totoo?
42:23.5
Diba kasi nag-work ako sa
42:25.5
registration, yung star na star
42:27.5
na tayo na nag-program ko, hindi talaga
42:29.5
pwede gamitin sa, kung may
42:31.5
kukuha na sa akin na
42:33.5
registration. Katulad kung
42:35.5
sa TPG 37, chika mo chika ko
42:37.5
lasted
42:39.5
four years, tapos
42:41.5
yun, yung chika mo chika ko
42:43.5
hindi ko ginagamit sa blog ko because
42:45.5
talagang kung sumikat yun, na-abolin ako.
42:47.5
Diba yan ang totoo?
42:49.5
Diba yun po, kasi talaga sa business
42:51.5
na yung producer po ang may-ari.
42:53.5
Lahat po, alam ko po, kayo na lahat
42:55.5
na nasa showbiz industry, even wala
42:57.5
naman sa showbiz industry, alam po
42:59.5
na lang yun na kasi may
43:01.5
producer, may employer,
43:03.5
ito po yung may-ari. In the case of
43:05.5
showbiz industry, producer po yung tawag
43:07.5
natin. So ang producer po
43:09.5
ang lahat nang nagbubayad,
43:11.5
sa lahat nang nag-iisip,
43:13.5
mabawa po, creatives ka, you're part of the
43:15.5
creatives department, may talent chika,
43:17.5
may bayad ka naman.
43:19.5
So lahat ng
43:21.5
product of your creations
43:23.5
is paid by
43:25.5
the producer.
43:27.5
So kaya sinasabi na pag-aari
43:29.5
ng producer, yung lahat
43:31.5
ng naisip mo. In the case nga po
43:33.5
of copyright, yung mga pwede ka sinasabi
43:35.5
o sa copyright, ano ba yung mga copyright
43:37.5
creations?
43:39.5
Songs, tapos mga
43:41.5
other visual
43:43.5
recordings ng mga shows,
43:45.5
sino bang may-ari nyo? Kaya po,
43:47.5
sato namin, is incorporated
43:49.5
kasi lahat naman
43:51.5
nung gumawa,
43:53.5
even equipment,
43:55.5
even yung venue, even yung
43:57.5
pinakain doon sa gumawa, sa mga
43:59.5
caterings, ay binayara ng producer.
44:05.5
At world at our question,
44:07.5
kasi sionde leek mention dati,
44:09.5
yung mga pag-aari ng production.
44:11.5
Bakit mangyari na
44:13.5
marami mga segments
44:15.5
maging tulaga na
44:17.5
May mga ka-register doon sa inyong mga ating empleyado ng TAFE, di ba?
44:28.5
Actually po ngayon, doon po sa mga hearings ko namin, nag-present ko ng registration pero hindi po sa ITP.
44:36.5
Ang pre-incent po is sa National Library.
44:40.5
Tapos po, kasi po, ang pre-incent nila is meron po isang petitioner po doon sa complaint natin,
44:48.5
doon sa isang case namin sa Marikina na nag-present po ng registration hindi po sa copyright and related rights ng IPO pero po sa National Library.
45:01.5
So, pwede po kita doon po. Pero po, no registration po na nakalagay pa rin po na si Tafe Incorporated na owner.
45:07.5
Tapos Tafe Incorporated is the publisher.
45:10.5
So, nakalagay naman po. Sinasabi naman niya sa pagbata ng author siya.
45:14.5
Pero ang owner po is Tafe Incorporated and publisher is Tafe Incorporated.
45:19.5
We have also checked with copyright and related rights, review of copyright ng IPO.
45:27.5
Kung meron nga bang registration sa TBJ or sa Miss Jenny Ferren ng any segment, it will adapt.
45:34.5
Sa IPO under copyright, walang.
45:37.5
We have asserted that we do that.
45:39.5
Bumalang po registration for copyright for any segment or for people without copyright, TBJ or Miss Jenny Ferren.
45:48.5
Sa copyright infringement.
45:50.5
Copyright infringement case.
45:53.5
Yun nga po.
45:54.5
Yung copyright infringement case po, depending po sa Marikina, para maklata ko rin po, wala pa po ng desisyon.
46:00.5
May mga dumalabas po na...
46:03.5
Actually, kanina nga po tinanong si Super Joe.
46:06.5
O ano yung pumalaga sa desisyon? Ay sa court.
46:08.5
Sabi ko, ayan, hindi mo sabihin, meron po talaga confusion.
46:12.5
Kung sa Marikina court, ng copyright infringement case, hindi po yung trademark, ay wala pa pong desisyon.
46:19.5
Meron din ako nakitang interview sa kabilang campo na sinasabi na may lalabas daw na injunction.
46:28.5
Sa Januari, may lalabas ng RTC of Marikina.
46:33.5
God, I don't know.
46:34.5
Kasi, syempre...
46:36.5
Pwede ba mo nangyari?
46:37.5
Huwag po natin pangunahan ang korte, ano po.
46:40.5
So, hindi po natin alam kung...
46:43.5
Kasi po, maigdala din po natin kung ano po yung mamigil.
46:48.5
Let us not preempt the decision of RTC of Marikina.
46:51.5
Gusto sabihin na hinintay, yung injunction, at lalabas ng injunction.
46:58.5
Kasi pag ano po, paano sinasabi mong nanalo pa natin?
47:01.5
At going back to the sentence.
47:05.5
Gusto na rin malaman ni Gordie.
47:07.5
Bakit hindi niya nagamit?
47:08.5
Kasi, ano yung mababas na una?
47:10.5
Naka-copyright ni Miss Jenny Perez.
47:12.5
Tapos, ngayon niya planning as na.
47:14.5
Hindi naman talaga.
47:15.5
So, bakit hindi niya po nagamit?
47:16.5
Kasi, talagang lumalabas si Hannah.
47:18.5
Pagkahari na, kaya hindi niya nagamit.
47:20.5
Hindi po.
47:21.5
Ganito po kasi.
47:23.5
Noon pong nag-aral ang new management, ang TV Incorporated, at umalis na po ang TV Show,
47:29.5
TV Incorporated respected that they want to have the show.
47:33.5
Diba?
47:34.5
We do not want to associate our show with our show.
47:37.5
Yes.
47:38.5
So, kaya nga po, kapag nasa inyo, kahit po may claim kami doon sa Itbolaga Slavesong,
47:43.5
hindi ginamit ng Itbolaga yung theme song.
47:47.5
Kasi nga po, ano yan eh, parang nakilala na yung theme song na yun.
47:52.5
Nandito ang mga pangalan nila.
47:55.5
It's not because, oo, may nakalagay doon.
47:58.5
Ito, Bigan Jeremy, may nakalagay doon na gano'n.
48:01.5
We do not.
48:02.5
We did not use it.
48:03.5
It's not because you don't want it.
48:06.5
Hindi namin ginamit yun.
48:07.5
But we do not want to associate.
48:09.5
TV Incorporated does not want to associate each show to another show na.
48:14.5
Yun lang po ang alam mo.
48:16.5
So, yung mga segments po na pinoy ninyo, may registration for TV Incorporated for trademark of pinoy ninyo.
48:24.5
We can show it to you.
48:26.5
But why we did not use it?
48:28.5
Kinagalang naman po namin, nakilala sa Mr. Joey De Leonas, pinoy ninyo.
48:32.5
Di ba po?
48:33.5
And we do not want to use that.
48:36.5
And to associate our show and that segment.
48:40.5
May Mr. Joey De Leon.
48:42.5
Kaya po hindi namin ginamit.
48:44.5
So, just to make it clear.
48:46.5
We are not using it, not because we don't own it.
48:48.5
Or we don't have any claim to it.
48:51.5
But because we want to have a show that is may bago na naman pong host.
48:57.5
So, iba rin po ang pinpla.
48:59.5
Iba rin po ang atake.
49:01.5
At hindi na po, parang ayaw na rin makita na ma-associate pa siya.
49:06.5
Na parang patulad ng show naman pa kita.
49:09.5
Yun lang po ang reason ng taking part of the research program.
49:13.5
Atty. Meryl, tanong lang pa ako.
49:15.5
Ay, sabay sabang?
49:17.5
Ako na muna. Ako na muna.
49:19.5
Ayan, stop.
49:22.5
May panilala si Andrew.
49:24.5
Ayan, ito na po. Atty. Christian.
49:26.5
Corporate Counsel of the Incorporated House Counseling Committee.
49:29.5
Atty., question.
49:32.5
Ang hawakan ko lang kasi, yung mga manonood.
49:37.5
Kami na walang alam sa mga batas.
49:40.5
Kami na hindi namin alam kung ano ang titulo ng isang programa.
49:44.5
Ang importante, content ng pinanonood natin.
49:48.5
Kaming hindi na wala kaming alam sa batas.
49:51.5
Hindi namin alam yung mga code code na yan.
49:54.5
Ang importante sa amin ay kung ano ang aming pinanonood.
49:58.5
Ang question ko kay Andrew.
50:08.5
Ano naman ang laban?
50:11.5
At ano naman ang laban? May nananalo, may natataro pa.
50:16.5
O, ano ang question?
50:17.5
Ang question ko ay,
50:19.5
What if na hindi tayo palagi?
50:23.5
May titulo namang nakahanda?
50:26.5
Ah.
50:27.5
Itulaga para sa bagong programa?
50:31.5
O ang pay, may bago na ba sila?
50:34.5
Na kung sabi nga po ninyo, pabago-bago kayo.
50:37.5
Meron lang kayong mga bagong pinapasok ng mga...
50:39.5
Segments.
50:40.5
Segments. So, dahil ayaw nyo nang inikuwasan, ayaw nyo nang ma-associate.
50:44.5
Question ko po, may nakahanda na po ba?
50:47.5
Ah! Second question.
50:51.5
Ah, second question.
50:53.5
Just to add.
50:54.5
Wala po ako doon sa room para mag-usap.
50:55.5
Isama ako ng mga halos host.
50:59.5
For sure, hindi pa kayaan yun.
51:01.5
Aray.
51:02.5
Nagkakaroon na po ba sila ng pagkakataong mag-usap-usap na i-dipak na lang ang usap nito sa kung saan ibigay sa ito lang ang titlo?
51:12.5
Yan lang po. Thank you.
51:14.5
Ako naman po, I assume na,
51:16.5
Siguro po, hindi din ito na K-18s.
51:18.5
Kasi po, K-18s ang K-18 Corporation po ang ninedesign.
51:21.5
If meron po siyang bagong pangalanan.
51:23.5
Pagkakataon po lang siya.
51:24.5
Ang bagong pangalanan.
51:25.5
Ang sa amin po, sa management and team incorporated,
51:29.5
is kung patulad nga ako,
51:31.5
or some source, sinasabi ko,
51:33.5
Tita Morley.
51:34.5
Tita Morley.
51:35.5
Tita Morley.
51:36.5
Di Tita Morley.
51:37.5
Pero final na magkaroon ng final decision about
51:41.5
magkakaroon ng Supreme Court at sa mga Supreme Court na
51:44.5
oh, hindi nga nga pwedeng gamitin yan.
51:46.5
Susunod nga mag-usap.
51:47.5
Ayan.
51:48.5
And we will abide to the decision.
51:51.5
Yun nga lang po.
51:52.5
Ngayon, hindi po kami maka...
51:53.5
44 years.
51:54.5
Hindi po.
51:55.5
I'm sorry po,
51:56.5
but hindi po namin mapapagbigyan ang makalusap ng PDJ
52:00.5
na i-give up yung...
52:03.5
Itigil ng paggamit.
52:05.5
Itigil ng paggamit.
52:07.5
Kasi para po sa amin,
52:09.5
para po namin hindi rin meron na step-up procedure.
52:11.5
Yes.
52:12.5
Kasi po, ano po ang magiging useless
52:15.5
or futile naman po yung appeal namin
52:17.5
kung gini-give up na namin ngayon?
52:19.5
Correct.
52:20.5
The main issue of our appeal
52:22.5
is the time and end.
52:24.5
So pag-give up na namin,
52:26.5
sumunan namin sa isa rin yung appeal po namin.
52:29.5
Pero, yun po.
52:30.5
It's a bargain.
52:32.5
Kung na nga merong disisyon na pinag,
52:34.5
they will abide to it.
52:36.5
And I'm very confident with our creatives
52:38.5
that they can come up with a very good idea
52:42.5
kung ano man ang ipapalit ng pangalan sa Ipulaga.
52:45.5
As of now po,
52:47.5
hindi po po,
52:48.5
we're still using Ipulaga.
52:51.5
And yun pa rin po ang lagap nitid.
52:53.5
Yes.
52:57.5
Atty.
52:58.5
Atty.
52:59.5
breedsy bought by Zygット.
53:00.5
Oo nga.
53:01.5
Atty.
53:02.5
Ito ang journalist Patshie...
53:03.5
Patshie po.
53:05.5
Patshie po.
53:06.5
Oo, oo.
53:09.5
Matagnan na kami yung more-than-Venue show.
53:10.5
Go.
53:13.5
Ato kasi,
53:14.5
Tum cumulative may mga ina-inakalampala
53:17.5
that cheekin is
53:19.5
only holding on mode 187.
53:20.5
Only holding the title na Eat Bulaga kasi meron kayong million peso deal sa isang advertiser na once na nakaalagay mo kasi sa deal na yun that they're sponsoring Eat Bulaga, malinaw, Eat Bulaga, hindi nakalagyan dito Bikin Joey or is it yung show yun, but Eat Bulaga.
53:46.4
That's the reason daw, ito kumalat pre, that's the reason daw kung bakit talagang kinipilit patagalin ng mga alos-kos, but yung Eat Bulaga na title, but in reality daw, pwede nyo naman talaga silang ibigay daw, pero yun nga after ng kontrata sa mga advertisers kasi ayaw nyo magbalik or hindi sayang.
54:13.9
Can you address that?
54:16.4
Wonderful question.
54:18.4
Thank you for that question.
54:20.4
Wonderful question.
54:22.4
So yun, gusto ko rin planuhin ano, kasi nga, siyempre ito, business side na ito eh ano, so ang mga kontrata po kasi is tape incorporated, hindi si Eat Bulaga.
54:33.4
So kung baga, ang ano po yan, ang parties na ito ang contract is yung advertiser at saka tape incorporated.
54:39.4
So every show that will be produced by tape incorporated should be the subject of that contract.
54:46.4
So ang sa akin po, wala naman po nasasabing gano'n sa amin so far, ang mga advertisers namin.
54:53.4
We're still, we're always in contact and we're always explaining this matter to our advertisers.
55:00.4
Wala naman po nasasabi ang mga advertisers namin about the title.
55:05.4
Syempre as advertisers, ang hinahanap nila lagi is ratings.
55:10.4
Mataas ang ratings.
55:12.4
Tapos, makikita nyo rin naman po ang...
55:14.4
Kung meron po bang, ang mga advertisers ba are sticking to you or meron ba mga advertisers ang tinuturta sa'yo sa number of commercial loads.
55:29.4
And hindi naman po sa pagmamaya bang, ang ganda po ang commercial loads ng Eat Bulaga.
55:35.4
We're having 35 minutes to sometimes 49 minutes.
55:39.4
39 minutes.
55:41.4
39 minutes.
55:42.4
39 minutes.
55:43.4
40 sa anong minutes?
55:45.4
No, 7 minutes.
55:47.4
7 minutes.
55:48.4
Noong po nag-July na ba?
55:49.4
June 5 na.
55:50.4
June 5 po.
55:51.4
June 5.
55:52.4
June 5 na.
55:53.4
So, May 31 po di ba, umalis po ang DJ.
55:55.4
Tapos wala pong nag-air ang Eat Bulaga.
55:58.4
Nag-air ang Eat Bulaga June 5.
56:00.4
Maki ba?
56:01.4
9.
56:02.4
9.
56:03.4
7 minutes lang po.
56:04.4
Wow!
56:05.4
To now, 13.
56:06.4
Anos, anos pagod na pagod po ang mga hosts kasi parang commercial.
56:11.4
Pero ngayon po.
56:12.4
Ang average na commercial load ng Eat Bulaga ay 40 minutes.
56:17.4
So, kaya minsan kapag ang mga hosts, humakain po ang mga hosts during commercial load.
56:23.4
Kaya para sa amin naman po, nagpapasalamat po kami sa pagtangkilip ng aming mga advertisers.
56:31.4
Wala pa po isang taon ang Tape Incorporated na, yung bagong management ng Tape Incorporated na nadalang ito na lang.
56:41.4
So, naiba na ako.
56:42.4
So, medyo, ano po.
56:43.4
Dating nga tinanong ko si Julia John, nga nga si Rommel, sa si Junior.
56:44.4
Eto, personal na ano.
56:45.4
I'm sure we're d'yon.
56:46.4
We're d'yon, sana.
56:47.4
Huwag kong ganyan sa akin.
56:48.4
Pero dito naman, kasi sa kanya.
56:49.4
Kaya bakit, kung bakit, inalala akong ito ah?
56:50.4
Yung Eat Bulaga.
56:51.4
Eh, di ba may businesses na naman kayo before?
56:52.4
At, ano naman natin.
56:53.4
Wala akong ganyan ng kaso.
56:54.4
Kasi dati, 7 minutes lang po eh.
56:55.4
Yung aras.
56:56.4
Kumbaga, lahat kaso.
56:57.4
Kumbaga, lahat kaso.
56:58.4
Kumbaga, lahat kaso.
57:11.4
Ang hindi ko makakalimutas, sabi sa akin, nyo medyo, aturney.
57:17.4
Eto, medyo may hindi na pa ko.
57:18.4
Pero ayoko kaya kasi meron mga slags.
57:19.4
Sabi sa akin, nyo, magiging may naiwang 200 employees.
57:20.4
Ang ganyan.
57:21.4
Ang mga tao, may mga wala ng trabaho.
57:22.4
Bakit ko hindi po ito.
57:23.4
Actually, kaya doon din po ako na, nalabang ka in a way na admire.
57:24.4
Doon sa.
57:25.4
Concern.
57:26.4
Concern po sa mga employees na, may mga mga mga employees na, may mga mga mga mga.
57:29.4
bakit ko hindi ko
57:30.4
kaya doon din po ako na
57:33.7
in a way na
57:35.9
admire, doon sa
57:37.6
concern po sa mga
57:39.7
employees na
57:40.8
meron akong 200 employees, pwede po siyang
57:43.6
clear up ang show, pero saan po
57:45.3
din ang mga employees
57:46.5
and I can see, lagi po akong
57:49.3
bumabisita sa Ikula na studio
57:51.2
I'm sure meron din po mga nandito
57:53.3
mga vloggers na bumabisita din
57:55.2
nakita niyo naman po siguro
57:56.6
na ang ganda ng samahan
57:59.3
kaya nga tama po yung pakala na
58:01.6
pangalang pinakamasaya
58:03.3
sa ganda
58:04.0
na ang saya-saya po sa studio
58:07.1
tapos yung mga tao
58:09.2
pagka nga
58:10.8
ako yung sabihin, pero po sabihin mo
58:12.9
na yun, yung
58:14.8
I always don't think na minsan makakausap
58:17.4
po sa baba, doon sa studio
58:19.2
tapos ko, natatakot din
58:21.3
sa in a way, di ba?
58:22.5
I don't know, mayroon po na
58:23.9
yung mga mga bago, di ba?
58:26.9
ito na yung binagawa
58:28.6
nila po
58:29.1
and these are 200
58:31.1
na mga nandito
58:31.8
yung mga na umalis, lahat
58:34.2
nakakatuwa kasi
58:36.8
yung AP, isa yan ang chance
58:38.7
sa atlet
58:40.2
atlet
58:41.0
Atty. Maggie, mag last question lang ako
58:44.7
so far, for the record
58:46.4
ilan po bang mga kaso na itong pinag-uusapan
58:49.0
natin sa iba-ibang korte
58:51.0
kasi parang dami-daming ang kaso
58:52.8
ngayon po, pwede yung tatlo lang
58:54.2
tatlo lang, so it's the petition for cancellation
58:57.2
IPO
58:59.1
it's the application of Joey De Leon
59:01.8
may application din ng TBJ
59:03.8
pero hindi po siya na-action na ng publication
59:06.5
ang may publication lang po
59:08.1
is yung application ng registration
59:10.0
ng Joey De Leon
59:11.1
so isa pa nga rin po yung
59:12.1
sa mga issue na na-raise namin dito sa
59:14.5
kapil namin na
59:16.7
ang sinasabi, owner si Joey De Leon
59:19.1
pero later parang lumalabas is
59:21.3
ang owner is TBJ, di ba?
59:23.3
buong TBJ
59:24.6
so, yun, tapos merong
59:28.2
complaint for copyright infringement
59:31.7
with application for temporary stream of order
59:34.2
and injunction sa RTC Marikina
59:37.7
so yun po ang mga pwede
59:39.2
puro sa Marikina po ito lahat
59:41.2
dalo sa IPO
59:42.2
dalo ba sa IPO
59:43.2
isa sa mga suspesyon
59:44.2
ito yung last question
59:46.2
ito na
59:47.2
how confident kayo po na may papanalo nito mga ka?
59:52.2
under sub-judice na ayaw namin mong magsabi ng ganyan
59:55.2
ano po, susunod po naman ako dito
59:57.2
kapag gabi susunod po ako sa jubisero
60:00.2
na ayaw ko pong mag-set ng pressure
60:02.2
kasi pag sinagaw po kasi na confident ka
60:05.2
na mananalo ka
60:06.2
parang sinaset, pinapressure yung body
60:09.2
na pag natalo ka, ibig sabihin na may nangarari
60:12.2
ayaw ko pong magsabi ng ganyan
60:14.2
pero para po sa amin
60:16.2
given the basis of our appeal
60:20.2
at yung pong nabasa ko naman po
60:25.2
yung ginawa pa po
60:26.2
nabasa ko naman po yung desisyon
60:29.2
at nakita po namin na yung basis noong
60:33.2
petition for cancellation
60:35.2
ay sinabi mismo ng desisyon na wala
60:38.2
wala, hindi yung nag-exist yung bad faith na yun
60:41.2
kaya para sa amin
60:43.2
dapat bigyan ng due course yung appeal
60:47.2
and I hope this will be seen
60:50.2
with the appeal of court
60:51.2
question po
60:52.2
last week po, nito rin ng desisyon
60:54.2
ang IPO meetings
60:55.2
a cancellation of the trademark
60:57.2
yung mula kasi preliminary desisyon
60:59.2
ano pong masasabi nyo na
61:01.2
patapos mangyari yun
61:03.2
mas tumami pa ang commercial loans
61:05.2
from an average of 30 per gap
61:08.2
naging 50-50 lang po tayo kaya per gap
61:11.2
masasabi nyo po ba na
61:13.2
dahil sinasabi nga mas pinagkakatiwalaan
61:16.2
ang tape incorporated ng advertisers
61:19.2
yun po, kaya nga po
61:20.2
tao sa puso po talaga
61:22.2
akong masasalamatan
61:23.2
sa lahat ng mga advertisers naman
61:27.2
hindi po kami iniwan
61:29.2
laki na, may iyon na
61:31.2
hindi po kami, hindi po bumigit yun
61:34.2
in fact, mas totoo po yun
61:36.2
Sir Jerry Maaya
61:37.2
ako po kasi keep on monitoring
61:40.2
I would always ask Sir Joe
61:41.2
how much is our commercial loans for today
61:44.2
tinatanong ko dyan
61:45.2
minsan nga po
61:47.2
gina-joke na ako ni Sir Joe
61:49.2
Jun, ano ka ba po?
61:50.2
owner ka na ba?
61:51.2
hindi po
61:52.2
bilang monitoring po
61:53.2
sabi na ako sa inyo
61:54.2
ano ba?
61:56.2
bilang monitoring po po
61:57.2
everyday ang commercial loan po
61:58.2
na binilaga
61:59.2
at mas lalo pong tumakas
62:01.2
even the release of the decision
62:03.2
of the alliance
62:04.2
na tingin niyo bakit po?
62:06.2
kasi po ang tiwala
62:09.2
siguro po yung tiwala na rin
62:10.2
ng advertisers
62:11.2
and I think po yung
62:14.2
ng mga fans
62:16.2
nakita ko po kasi na naging
62:18.2
natinanggap ng tawang bayan
62:21.2
yung Pit Bulaga
62:24.2
ngayon
62:26.2
Affirmative
62:27.2
Tika ter ninyo yung mga sign Xu
62:42.2
May legal impulsion po
62:43.2
May legal impulsion
62:44.2
I would use same respect po sana
62:44.7
I would appeal to them
62:47.2
give them the same respect
62:48.2
to not just respect
62:49.2
the procedure
62:50.2
procedure, not to use it
62:52.5
until such time that
62:54.3
the decision has become final.
62:56.6
Kaya sana po hindi nila doon event.
62:58.7
Now, the event that it will
63:00.4
are appealed will not
63:02.6
be granted dahil
63:04.6
ginagagamitin pa rin po nila
63:06.3
yung kapusap po namin ay hindi nila
63:08.5
gawin
63:10.5
sabang gamitin at in such time
63:12.4
na ang disisyon ay pinag,
63:14.1
we then think the corporation will file
63:16.2
the necessary action to protect
63:18.2
its interests.
63:20.2
Ayaw nyo ma-associate
63:22.9
sa kanila?
63:25.1
Ba't na tayo yung self-associated
63:27.1
na sa kanila talaga yun?
63:28.5
Naman po natin ang team.
63:30.4
Akin po naga, Steven J.
63:32.2
Ayaw nyo naman din talaga.
63:34.0
Pero bakit po rin nilalitigin ito lang?
63:36.3
Kamu sinasabi nito, ayaw nyo ma-associate?
63:39.2
Because it is the producer's ownership.
63:41.4
Just like showtime
63:43.0
is associated with Vice Ganda.
63:44.5
So, ibig sabihin ito ba,
63:46.1
kapag umalis na si Vice Ganda,
63:48.0
associated ang titolong showtime
63:50.1
kay Vice Ganda
63:51.1
and you give up din
63:52.0
ng PIT ng ABS-CBN
63:53.9
ang titolong showtime,
63:56.2
given that logic
63:57.5
and given that argument,
63:58.8
yan na din po ang
63:59.4
Philippine Corporate.
64:00.4
Ito pong pangalan na ito
64:02.5
ay sa Philippine Corporate
64:04.8
sa napakahabang islamon,
64:07.6
yung association po ng pangalan
64:09.7
is hindi po masasabi
64:12.4
kung ngayon, dahil nga po
64:14.2
ngayon yung mga bago ng
64:15.5
hosts.
64:16.9
In fact, pag nakita nyo po si Jorme,
64:19.2
nakita nyo po si Jorme,
64:20.1
si part of the piece,
64:21.4
ito po nag-aaralit ang mga piece.
64:23.4
So, ibig sabihin,
64:24.4
yung Temporary Association of the Moon
64:26.8
kaya po yan.
64:27.8
Mayroon po mga sinasabi ko ng mga segments,
64:30.3
yung mga kanta dahil po nakalagay
64:32.3
yung pangalan nila doon sa kanta,
64:33.8
yun po ang hindi namin ginamit.
64:35.3
Pero po yung titolong,
64:37.3
every producer,
64:38.4
lahat po ng producer alam po ito,
64:40.4
na pwede kang magpasok ng bagong hosts
64:42.4
sa show mo,
64:44.4
pwede kang maglagay ng
64:47.4
ibang-ibang segments sa show mo,
64:49.4
na hindi mo kailangang magpaalam
64:51.4
sa dati ng mga hosts.
64:53.4
So, yun po ang pinaglalaban
64:55.4
ng taking part.
64:57.4
So, kaya po, even if,
64:59.4
ah, yun po,
65:01.4
ang Itgulaga po ngayon,
65:03.4
may mga bagong hosts na
65:05.4
associated na rin naman po
65:07.4
at tinanggap na ng taong bayan,
65:09.4
ang Itgulaga,
65:11.4
may mga bagong hosts,
65:13.4
na pag naisip nila ang Itgulaga,
65:15.4
hindi na rin mga TVJ ang naisip nila,
65:17.4
isa, si Napolo.
65:19.3
Pag naisip na, si Dario Orme.
65:21.3
And, yun po yung nakikita namin,
65:23.3
kaya tinataklitik siya
65:25.3
ng mga mga nanonood
65:27.3
at yung mga naturalizers.
65:29.3
Kasi kung hindi naman po tapakalitin ang mga nanonood,
65:31.3
hindi rin naman po mga mga advertisers
65:33.3
ah, mag-
65:35.3
mag-ikikontrol sa Itgulaga.
65:37.3
At saka, asosyente din siya sa taking, no?
65:39.3
Kaya rin nagtaka yung taking.
65:41.3
Kaya rin nagtaka yung taking.
65:43.3
Kaya rin nagtaka yung taking.
65:45.3
Kaya rin nagtaka yung taking.
65:47.3
Kaya rin nagtaka yung taking.
65:49.3
Kaya, alam mo, ang Itgulaga
65:51.3
ginawa po ang kong danger.
65:53.3
Pag magkakamot, signing po ng
65:55.3
airtime sa RTP-N9,
65:57.3
signing sa GMA,
65:59.3
at paking for-profiter po ang nakaupin dun.
66:01.3
Paking for-profiter po ang nakaupin dun.
66:03.3
Kaya, sinasabi ko ako,
66:05.3
anong magiging epekto nito kung sakali
66:07.3
magbawad ng esesyon ng copyrighted
66:09.3
traditional
66:11.3
nakapending yung opinion doon sa trademark?
66:13.3
Halimbawa,
66:15.3
maliwag, mapagalaw,
66:17.3
nalaman sila naman ang mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan at mga kapyeraan.
66:47.2
Separate po itong kaso ng trademark sa titolo at itong kaso na gustong patigil ng TVJ ang tape sa paggamit ng jingle, ito wala na, at saka ng audiovisual recordings now from May 31, 20, so anything prior to May 31, 30, 30, nandoon daw sila.
67:09.9
Yan po ang issue noon sa copyright infringement sa RTC.
67:14.9
Gustong patigil din.
67:16.2
Kaya sa TVJ, pinaggamitin ng tape incorporated ng audiovisual recordings nila na andun sa TVJ.
67:23.2
So that's from May 27 to May until May 30, 20, 30, 30.
67:27.7
Kasi 31 wala na, May 31.
67:32.3
So yun ang issue noon.
67:33.6
So yun ang issue noon.
67:35.2
Yun ang gusto nila doon sa RTC.
67:37.6
Kasi may play nga yun, di ba?
67:39.4
Yun ang issue nila doon.
67:41.7
Kaya sinasabi kong ma'am, may nakita kong interview regarding sa...
67:46.2
So kapag na dumaba siyang injunction doon sa Marikina sa Januari, hindi na nilang magbibigay sa TVJ.
67:54.1
For me, dapat hindi gano'n kasi nga po ang issue po doon is yung song at saka yung copyright na copyrightable materials.
68:03.0
Yung song na noon po, wala na naman kami binagamit na song na ito talaga kasi natahan yung pinakamasaya na yung pinagamit ng jingle.
68:11.8
Yung audiovisual recordings, natagal na rin hindi binagamit.
68:16.2
So kaya nga sinasabi rin namin doon sa police, is with regard to that infringement, with regard to that injunction, you cannot stop something that is not existing.
68:27.2
Hindi namin binagamit yung song, hindi namin binagamit yung logo na allegedly ginawa ni Joy Delaione, na may concealed at may mouth valve.
68:39.2
Hindi yun yung logo na nilagamit.
68:41.2
Iba-iba na yung logo na nilagamit.
68:43.2
So even yung original logo na nilagamit.
68:46.2
Yung audiovisual recordings.
68:48.2
Ngayon po bagong post na audiovisual recordings ng mga bagong hosts na lumalap na sa England.
68:54.2
So hindi nage-exist yung sinasabing gusto nila i-post up.
69:00.2
For us, there's no reason for us to let it go.
69:02.2
Bonus question ako, attorney.
69:04.2
Sa yung base sa'yo, parang nasa ano pa itatagal ang ganitong kaso?
69:08.2
Kasi sinasabi naman ang KPJ, pag nag-50 years na sila, magre-retire na sila eh.
69:14.2
Matagal po ito.
69:15.2
If you can see the CIMA case, ilang 2007 na nag-start ang CIMA case, 2020 na sila lumabas yung 50 years.
69:24.2
So magre-retire na nga sila eh.
69:27.2
Over the weekend, nakita po namin sa social media pages na magkasama ang executives ng KPJ, executives ng GME, sa birthday party ni Prince VTL Gozon.
69:45.2
So sabi po ba natin na sa gitna ng cases na kinakaharap ng tape ngayon sa Clayton Markle, mas tumibay, mas naging sweeter na ba ang relationship na lumabas siya?
69:57.2
Sabi po, kasi hindi naman ako, hindi ako ganun itatagal sa taking part in that.
70:03.2
I was just an H by K to me.
70:05.2
So hindi, I mean better than you.
70:07.2
Pero umatang-tumas ako naman po yan.
70:10.2
You know, everything.
70:11.2
Nothing can stop you.
70:13.2
And ah...
70:14.2
Yun.
70:15.2
So ganda doon nga po.
70:16.2
Nakita po na yung relationship nung si Sir, kasi our GME chairman, kasi Romeo Calasowski, at yung mga executives nila ng GME Network.
70:28.2
Kasi siya, ito sila yung mga, I think, sila yung mga kag-sasayang, hindi yung videos lahat na hindi.
70:34.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:36.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:37.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:38.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:39.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:40.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:41.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:42.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:44.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:45.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:46.2
So I saw that, ah...
70:47.2
Okay.
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Okay.
70:49.2
Okay.
70:50.2
Okay.
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I think, um 곂
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Malaking.
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So ta, what's important for you as Boss of the GME, uh, is, when you're raising your
71:06.1
...
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Sorry.
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I'm sorry.
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However what I have to say is that, you know, like, my, my...
71:10.2
I really want to say, I want to say this because you know, I'm there for you because when I're
71:12.2
very interested I can give you the information about faithfulness of the GME that people, if I were
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Ito yung GMAs na kami nabinalaban.
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Tama yun.
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Kasi alam mo kuya, yung ngayon ko lang binalaban.
71:18.2
Ang keep incorporated pala, siya yung gumawa.
71:20.2
Ano yung mga teleserial? Aguila ba?
71:22.2
Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
71:25.2
Aguila.
71:26.2
Aguila.
71:27.2
Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Aguila.
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Ang team is also contemplating on that.
71:43.2
I was talking to Kuya John.
71:45.2
At sabi ko, we can also do documentaries, we can also do-
71:48.2
Alam ko, inko audition mo ko eh.
71:54.2
Audition ko.
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I'm very clear.
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Magbitaan mo sa lina.
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Thank you Kuya John.
72:06.2
Kuya, kayo pagbigyan din, in a while din.
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Ayaw lang.
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Mayroon pa siya.
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Hindi na siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:13.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:14.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:15.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:16.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:17.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:18.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:19.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:20.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:21.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:22.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:23.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:24.2
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:25.5
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:28.5
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:30.1
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:31.9
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:33.0
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:34.0
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:35.0
Mayroon pa siya sasabi-asin naman eh.
72:36.3
Mayroon pa siya rin eh.
72:37.3
Mayroon pa siya sa likid na lahat.
72:38.3
Weight, Cost, Energy—
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Hindi, mayroon pa mijedad na.
72:41.0
Hindi, mayroon pa mijedad na.
72:42.5
I think ito po na kasi magiging
72:44.0
sa Mr. Gordon Uriera
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to show his support
72:46.9
for this case,
72:48.3
for, ah,
72:48.9
for the company.
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Kaya sa co-owner,
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kaya sa production of the project,
72:54.6
nag-return na po masin.
72:56.4
Pero,
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once in a while,
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parang tinatakot
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ang panigyari
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sa SP,
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sa SP,
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for, ah,
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for the price.
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Yes.
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Thank you.
73:07.3
Thank you.
73:08.4
Thank you.
73:09.9
Thank you.
73:12.5
Thank you.