00:15.9
Pag-usapan natin ngayon
00:17.0
This is the episode
00:22.2
Sekretary Ronald Llamas
00:23.2
What is the dateline you have in mind?
00:27.8
Before the end of year
00:28.7
Baka matanggalan sila ng franchise
00:30.1
Or this could drag on for a little bit longer?
00:33.6
Baka a little bit longer
00:35.3
Napakahalaga rito
00:37.6
Nung sinasabi ng aking idol
00:43.9
Pinapakinggan ko lahat ng kanyang sinasabi
00:47.0
Nung sinabi niya nung
00:54.2
You cannot blame Congress
00:56.0
For not renewing the franchise
01:01.0
That is one of their powers
01:03.8
Power ng Congress yan eh
01:06.1
Kaya may karapatan sila
01:09.6
Hindi i-renew yung franchise ng ABS-CBN
01:17.7
December 11, 2023
01:20.2
Ang sinasabi naman
01:21.8
Ng aking idol na si Harry Roque
01:23.8
Ay walang kapangyarihan
01:32.8
Ang galing talaga ni idol
01:38.7
Diyan ako magde-defer
01:49.0
Huwag i-vote si Mayor Duterte
01:56.2
Little after that
01:58.2
Eh siya na yung spokesperson
02:00.9
Defending yung mga matay tao
02:02.9
Kaya yan yung the best example
02:05.1
Yan yung the best example
02:08.7
Ito kinakailangan sa ating mundo
02:12.6
Umiikot yung mundo
02:13.5
Because of gaslighting eh
02:15.2
Umiikot yung mundo
02:17.0
Because of disinformation
02:18.9
Umiikot yung mundo
02:20.6
Dahil sa pagsisinungaling
02:22.6
Talagang umikot na yung mundo natin ha
02:26.8
Relax lang sir Ronald
02:28.0
Alam ko na uminit
02:29.1
Tumasang blood pressure mo
02:31.2
Itong acrobatic master of the field
02:34.9
Pati yung wound ako
02:36.4
Tumasang pressure eh
02:39.7
Bigla yung camera mo
02:46.0
Ang advice ko sa'yo
02:47.1
Medyo bawas-bawasan yung panood mo
02:53.3
Mga time lang ako
02:54.4
Nakikinig lang ako
02:57.1
Very subdued kayo
02:58.0
Very subdued kayo
03:01.5
Bayaan niya yung pinag-usapan Ronald
03:06.4
Hindi mo mo napapansin
03:09.8
Parang lahat ng mga
03:13.1
Ay nasa isang grupo
03:33.1
Words of the same
03:41.8
Mahalagang tanong yan Ronald
03:51.9
I mean I don't know
03:52.7
If this is fake news or not
03:53.8
Sa daming fake news
03:58.3
And which is like
03:59.7
Like what is fake fake
04:01.4
And what is real fake
04:02.7
Na na-confuse na ako
04:09.0
Anong consultancy
04:10.6
Na 1 million per month
04:11.8
Ang bayad sa Pilipinas
04:13.2
Wala dito sa podcast na ito
04:18.6
Nung nagtrabaho ka
04:28.3
Nakamali ako ng grupo
04:34.5
Dito sa grupo na ito
04:35.7
Ng mga mararangal
04:38.2
Marangal na mayaman pa
04:40.9
Marangal pa mayaman pa
04:45.5
Yung ganong klaseng
04:53.1
1 million na consultancy
04:55.1
Na sa isang grupo
04:58.8
Saan ba naka-apply dyan?
05:02.3
Saan ba naka-apply dyan?
05:05.7
Ano bang tinuturo dyan
05:07.5
Na 1 million ng bayad?
05:15.9
Someone interesting
05:25.8
Ang nakita ko dun
05:34.1
Ang concern ko dun
05:44.2
Maraming nangyari
05:48.0
Itong grupong marangal
06:02.2
Ang hunger strike nila
06:05.4
Ang picture ng tao
06:06.5
Nag hunger strike
06:08.6
Gant na talaga siya
06:23.5
Ang nangyari dyan
06:25.3
Ano bang maritize dyan
06:27.1
Kasi concerned daw yan
06:28.5
Doon na may supervision
06:31.0
May mga hug hug sila
06:32.6
Ano ba nangyari Ronald?
06:36.1
Ang pinapalot ko nga sila
06:39.0
Talagang awang-awa ako
06:41.1
Na sila ay talagang
06:47.5
Yun yata yung ibig sabihin
06:49.3
Ng kanilang hunger strike
06:52.2
Hunger for something eh
06:56.0
Tamak na naman tayo
06:57.0
Alam mo maganda rin
06:57.8
Mag hunger strike si Harry
07:00.7
Maganda rin siyang
07:01.6
Mag hunger strike
07:04.5
Wala akong sinabi
07:09.3
Kailangan makiisa ka eh
07:12.8
Pag nag hunger strike ka
07:18.3
Nag hunger strike yan
07:21.6
Dapat samahan din
07:22.9
Yung mga tingka SMNI
07:25.2
Mag hunger strike
07:26.0
Pwede naman yung wag kalamahan
07:30.9
Nag hunger strike
07:32.6
Pag yung Richard Hidario
07:34.3
Nag hunger strike
07:37.2
Kasi mga bayani din tayo
07:39.2
Mag hunger strike
07:42.4
Masyado na siyang payat
07:50.5
Binibigyan mo ng kahulugan
07:51.7
Yung sinasabi ko eh
07:54.4
Wala akong sinasabi
07:59.5
Bakit di daw sumasama
08:02.4
Ang hunger strike din
08:04.4
O yun yung kwanko eh
08:06.2
Hindi ko nagustuhan yung ni Simo eh
08:10.3
Isi-screen shot ko yung mga live comments
08:13.3
Sa taong sinasabi
08:14.6
Bakit hindi lang sumama sa hunger strike
08:19.1
O yung dami nagsasabi
08:19.9
O hindi ako yan ah
08:21.1
O pasahin ko yung mga pangalan nyo
08:24.0
Wag mo nang sabihin yan ulit ah
08:25.7
Kaya wag kang tumawa-tawa dyan
08:27.7
Wala yung silang nagsasabi oh
08:30.1
Yung saka DTS natin
08:32.8
Iyak ka na lang kayo
08:33.8
Kasi madalas talaga daw yan
08:38.7
Okay ganito Ronald no
08:40.4
Ako kasi ang argument ko is
08:43.5
SMNI is not ABS-CBN
08:46.1
It's not even close right
08:47.7
And even the journalism
08:49.4
That they have is questionable
08:51.6
But I also understand na
08:53.5
They're trying to be like
08:54.4
The Fox News of the Philippines
08:55.9
Or something like that
08:56.6
If we can put it that way
08:59.6
Medyo malayong standard yan
09:00.9
But having said all of that
09:02.3
You can watch Succession
09:03.9
To have an idea about
09:05.9
But having said that
09:08.1
Baka nakakatakot na
09:09.7
Presidents ang mangyari dito
09:11.4
Na pwedeng biglang
09:12.8
Tanggalan ka ng franchise
09:14.0
And this could have a
09:16.8
Ang concern ko dito is
09:18.4
Baka bashing media
09:19.9
Become something cool na
09:21.0
Remember after ABS-CBN
09:24.2
Hindi naman prodigong
09:25.9
Hindi tama lang sa ABS-CBN
09:29.0
And then after this SMNI
09:30.0
We might normalize
09:35.9
I'm not talking about
09:37.6
But every legit journalist
09:39.1
Now is gonna do twice
09:40.3
Baka gagawin sa akin yan
09:41.8
Ng mga papahiring nila ako
09:43.5
If i-expose ko yung mga
09:45.1
Kalukuan na nangyari
09:46.3
It's not like we have
09:47.1
It's not like we have Denmark
09:50.2
Hindi naman tayo Scandinavian
09:51.6
So may problema talaga
09:54.4
Be careful what you wish for
09:56.3
Some see a poetic justice here
09:58.0
We might also send some
10:01.5
How do you define
10:02.8
Someone as journalist
10:04.0
Like I'm not part of any
10:06.6
Organization or like that
10:07.8
And hindi na yata uso yan
10:09.6
Parang hindi na siya
10:10.6
Nakatulad ng dati
10:11.4
Na there's one centralized
10:12.9
Journalist organization
10:16.4
I work in Philippine Daily Inquiry
10:18.9
In the biggest network
10:20.0
So I am technically journalist
10:22.0
This is what I do
10:23.9
Ang concern ko dito is
10:25.7
Baka slippery slope na itong mangyari
10:33.3
May anonymous text na dalawa
10:36.1
Meron ka ng pang expose
10:37.5
Like that's not how it's gonna work
10:40.3
Where do you stand on this?
10:42.2
Kasi others are concerned
10:44.2
Nag-agree ako sa'yo
10:45.1
Na hindi dapat ito
10:48.0
Para ma-undermine
10:49.4
Ang press freedom
10:52.9
, at the same time
10:55.2
Hindi ako naniniwala
10:57.6
Actually kaparehas
11:02.6
May mga measurement
11:06.8
Doon sa pagtanggal
11:09.9
At pwedeng magamit
11:14.2
Ayoko i-weaponize ito
11:17.8
Slippery slope pa
11:21.7
Ay yung sa ABS-CBN
11:27.9
Yung ibig sabihin
11:31.8
Yung ibig sabihin
11:40.1
About yellow journalism
11:47.1
Which is something
11:48.3
We can do without
11:51.1
Iba yung measurement
11:54.0
Nung tinanggal yung franchise nila
11:56.8
Habang nag-agree ako sa'yo
12:00.2
Mga katulad natin
12:05.4
Yung freedom of the press
12:09.9
At pagtanggal ng franchise
12:12.8
Kasi nasabi ko lang
12:13.8
This is not the case
12:19.5
Kailangan yung weaponize
12:20.9
Kasi self-weaponize
12:22.9
Baka hindi lang sila
12:24.5
Ang tingin ko nga
12:26.0
Baka hindi lang sila
12:27.4
Ikulong sa kongreso
12:31.9
Comfortable ron eh
12:33.4
Baka kinakailangan silang kasuhan
12:36.3
Kung mapapatunayan
12:43.0
Nang disinformation
12:46.9
Ay talaga dapat silang
12:52.9
Nihiwalay ko lang
12:55.2
Iba yung pamantayan
12:58.2
At iba ngayon ito
12:59.7
That's interesting
13:01.6
Kasi you also had
13:05.1
Coming out and saying
13:06.6
Revocation of the franchise
13:11.2
Into links between
13:13.8
Particularly CGTN
13:17.1
International network of China
13:18.5
There's also a question about
13:19.8
This is not just about
13:21.0
Fake news and disinformation
13:24.7
In behalf of a hostile country
13:26.2
That's the kind of argument
13:27.4
That sila Franz Castro
13:28.8
Before pa tayo pupunta sa Asia
13:30.6
Na yung revocation of franchise
13:32.9
Yung mga potential
13:33.7
Questionable practices here
13:35.5
What is your take on that?
13:39.4
Pwedeng investigahan yan
13:41.4
Yung sinasabi ko kanina
13:44.6
Usapin lang ng fake news
13:45.8
Nag-advocate sila ng violence
13:49.3
Ng ating populasyon
13:50.9
Yung red touching and all
13:52.3
Nung nangyayari yung EJK
13:53.7
Nung nangyayari yung red tagging
13:55.6
Nung nangyayari na
13:58.5
Yun ay kasamang SMNI
14:02.7
Simpleng fake news
14:05.9
Talagang advocacy
14:09.1
Against a section of the population
14:11.4
Actually sa international
14:13.8
May definition yan
14:19.5
May sisi na rin yung iba sa kanila
14:21.3
Kung ganyan diba?
14:22.0
Isang element lang dyan
14:25.5
Isang mas malalim
14:27.1
Mas detestable element
14:29.5
Yung advocating violence
14:31.7
Against a section of the population
14:34.0
Ibang usapin pa yung sinasabi nila
14:42.5
Actually may batas tayo dyan eh
14:44.6
About foreign interference
14:46.8
Foreign intervention
14:49.8
Mga jurisprudence na
14:51.3
Ng mga foundation
14:52.7
Na nagcha-channel
14:55.4
Sa mga political parties
14:58.6
Pwedeng gamitin yan dyan
15:04.1
Now there should be also
15:05.2
Look into case of
15:07.9
The great friend of the president
15:09.2
Ibang usapin pa yun
15:11.2
We're talking about
15:13.1
Ibang usapin pa yun
15:14.7
Baka mauna pa yan sa ICC
15:16.9
Yung possible extradition
15:20.0
Dahil seryoso yan
15:21.3
Seryoso yan para sa mga Amerkano
15:23.8
At dahil meron tayong
15:25.5
Extradition treaty
15:26.9
Between the two of us
15:28.2
Pwede yang i-invoke nila
15:31.1
Pag i-invoke nila yung extradition
15:35.8
Cases of human trafficking
15:43.5
Hindi yan katulad ng ICC
15:45.5
Na mahabang proseso
15:48.9
I mean patapos ng taon
15:51.9
Lantern parade mode
15:54.6
Into holidays mode
15:55.8
Are you expecting
15:56.5
Some big things happening?
15:57.8
Or you're expecting
15:58.7
Lulutuin yung mangyari sa January
16:00.6
In the coming days
16:01.7
Before makaklose ang
16:04.8
What are you looking at here?
16:06.6
Whether it's the SM&I
16:11.2
Baka yung mga nagpaplano
16:14.6
Hintayin mo muna nila
16:16.5
Then after Christmas
16:18.3
Malulungkot yung tao
16:19.3
Then nagus yung pera
16:23.3
Baka gamitin nila yung
16:25.0
Patataas mong inflation
16:27.0
Patataas mong inflation
16:28.7
Pagdating ng January
16:31.7
Ubus yung pagkain
16:33.2
Maraming problema
16:35.7
Baka yun ang gamitin nila
16:40.0
It can happen anytime
16:41.4
It can happen anytime
16:44.0
There could be a kind of
16:45.0
Night of the long knives
16:48.8
Huwag mong kalimutan
16:56.3
Huwag mong kalimutan
16:58.1
Maraming mga nangyayari
17:02.2
Hindi ko sinasabi
17:03.1
Na mangyayari yan
17:04.0
Kasi sinasabi ko lang
17:05.9
In the next few months
17:20.4
You don't see a marathon
17:21.3
You see a sprint here
17:23.1
This is not slow burn
17:24.5
This is quick burn
17:27.0
Hindi lang quick burn
17:32.2
Yan yung nakikita ko
17:35.0
Madalas naman kasi
17:35.9
Nakakamali ako eh
17:39.5
Nakita mo naman yung picture nila
17:50.2
There'll be another
17:51.3
Interesting picture
17:53.8
Or whatever is left of it
17:55.2
For what it's worth
17:56.3
It looks at tapos ng unit team
17:57.6
It's just a question of
17:59.1
And it's a question of
17:60.0
What's gonna come next
18:02.5
Civil war situation
18:04.4
Moderate civil war
18:07.6
Is gonna be challenging
18:08.9
And then after that
18:11.0
Who's still standing
18:12.1
So these are very
18:13.1
Interesting situation
18:13.9
All I'm saying is that
18:14.7
Don't just have popcorns
18:18.7
To make the most out of it
18:20.0
Especially for those na
18:21.3
Who care about our country
18:23.2
And don't wanna be caught
18:24.4
Between one political dynasty
18:26.6
Because I've been
18:28.7
Yeah as much as you make a stand
18:30.2
Marcos is way better than Duterte
18:34.2
Necessary progressive leader
18:38.4
Thank you very much
18:42.7
Looking forward to
18:43.3
Catching up with you
18:44.6
With our other friends
18:47.9
Speaking of other collaborations
18:49.5
We're also looking at
18:50.9
A long conversation
18:55.0
Mga bloggers dyan
18:55.9
So this is what I'm trying to do
18:57.6
I'm trying to create
18:58.4
A culture of solidarity
18:60.0
This is what Rizal
19:02.5
I don't know yung mga nandyan sa
19:03.9
Hindi naglelechon ngayon
19:05.3
Pero yung mga tunay na bayani
19:06.5
They believe in solidarity
19:07.8
And working together
19:08.7
We don't need to compete
19:10.1
Against each other
19:10.7
We don't need to try to present
19:11.9
We're the smartest
19:15.4
Ronald should make his channel
19:17.2
Kahit yung mga interviews natin
19:19.2
It's shared copyright
19:20.5
Don't worry about it
19:21.8
And so thank you so much
19:22.7
Ronald for sharing your views
19:24.2
I'm looking forward to
19:24.9
Catching up with you
19:25.8
Baka we can do the other RRC
19:27.5
With Chris Chantan naman
19:31.0
Yung ating year ender
19:32.5
Chinoy point of view
19:33.2
Ang aming nangyari this year
19:35.7
Interesting people
19:37.6
Huwag ka na magpadala ng
19:38.8
Huwag ka na magpadala ng
19:42.2
Yung mere presence
19:44.7
So yung mga may tanong
19:49.0
Doon sa interview namin
19:50.5
Please also send your questions
19:53.0
So that we can have more to discuss
19:54.2
The good thing with
19:56.1
Hindi na naman alam
19:57.0
Hindi niya kailangan tanongin
19:58.3
Alam na namin yung tanong
19:59.8
Medyo creepy yung level natin
20:02.8
Or other people are interested
20:04.8
With this collaboration
20:05.6
Yung mga nag-anticipate
20:09.2
With Lisandro Claudio
20:10.4
Hopefully in person
20:13.3
Your questions and all
20:14.2
We're more than happy to discuss
20:15.7
Huwag lang sana personal
20:18.1
Very shy person yan
20:19.3
You could see him
20:28.0
Si Leloy na lang tanongin nyo
20:32.6
Thank you so much
20:38.1
Meet you soon in person
20:40.1
Face to face naman
