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00:00.0
Alright everyone, welcome to the numero uno political podcast in the country and of course we're very happy now, we're now more or less regular in the top 100 Spotify podcast among others and we're of course with one of the top notch guys in the country when it comes to any discussions on lifestyle, Bitcoin, medyo ADHD all over the place.
00:20.9
But obviously, the context of our collaboration and friendship is, you know, the emergence of this guest of ours as one of the no-nonsense voices in last year's elections and I'm sure he was perhaps as surprised by the positive reception as anyone else. It looks like there is an appetite for that kind of no-nonsense discussion. Thank you very much, Chris Tan, for joining us.
00:44.3
Hey Richard, kumusta? And kumusta to all your viewers and all your followers.
00:49.8
Yeah, you know Richard,
00:50.9
I've been following your posts and your interviews on CNN about politics and everything. You're one of the sane voices that I've heard in this space. So, it's an honor to be a part of this podcast, man.
01:06.3
Thank you very much, bro. I appreciate people like you also doing what you're doing. So, let's not overdo this bromance. Baka mamaritest tayo. I think there was a lot of creepy responses to yung pinost natin, yung mga picture natin.
01:20.9
So, parate ako na papahamak. Okay, let's go right into it. Chris Tan, of course, you know, many of your followers know you for your no-nonsense interventions during last year's elections. And, you know, I mean, correct the perception. Like, there was a perception that perhaps you're, you know, of course, you love the country and all, but perhaps it looks like the pink side was a little bit closer to your idea of sane politics than the alternatives, if I can put it that way.
01:48.2
So, first, Chris Tan. Who is Chris Tan?
01:50.9
So, really, I've always been an entrepreneur. I've been an entrepreneur all my life. Tapos, this vlog was something that I just wanted to do because siguro for the longest time, I knew naman that marunong ako mag-communicate. I can communicate ideas very well. And then, I wanted to be able to help people. It started with me being a life coach.
02:17.6
Tapos, I was giving out, spewing out advice on YouTube.
02:20.9
And one of the things that I do is a thought bubble. I talk about politics, current events, you know, societal issues. And one day, I decided to speak in Tagalog. Doon nag-umpis sa lahat. Doon ko na-realize na, wow.
02:39.6
So, and what was ironic was, kahit na nagda-Tagalog ako, maraming pala akong, maraming mga nanunod sa akin from different countries like the United States, mga Pinoy sin.
02:50.9
In Dubai, in Singapore, in Europe. And it was so fascinating na when I spoke Tagalog, the more I connected with people. Kaya, that's where it all started. Now, politics-wise, people think, like you mentioned nga, that I'm pink or dilawan. What they don't know is I didn't vote for Pinoy.
03:09.3
I actually didn't like Pinoy. But I do appreciate what he's done for the country. And then, when the election time came along, I had very strong opinions.
03:20.9
Kasi, towards the candidates. And binase ko lang talaga yan on which candidate I thought was the best in terms of a criteria.
03:29.8
And yun. Tapos, it's interesting lang kasi. I think people will perceive you or me or anyone according to their own biases.
03:41.4
May bias ka talaga. You're gonna see things through your own lens.
03:45.8
And people saw what they wanted to see in the message I was trying to deliver. I do believe Lenny is the best candidate.
03:55.9
But one thing that people were surprised is, nung tinanong ako what I thought would happen if BBM won, I actually didn't paint a doom and gloom picture.
04:05.5
I actually even said na, and I didn't post it until after he won. Because I didn't want anyone to, parang, siguro, maybe switch.
04:15.8
Or anything. But I did say it na, I don't think BBM was going to be as bad as his father.
04:23.0
I think BBM is not, I think he's just a spoiled brat na who just want, it's an ego thing.
04:31.5
Being president is an ego thing for him. And that's it. So there. So after that, tuloy-tuloy na.
04:36.3
And suddenly people were just following me and I was like, wow.
04:39.3
And they just wanted to hear my take on different topics, whether politics or showbiz or whatever it may be.
04:45.8
So that's how it all started.
04:48.1
Wait, wait. Speaking of, we'll go to the entrepreneur part when we'll do the podcast episode on Bitcoin, maybe, you know,
04:54.1
because this is at the cutting edge of entrepreneurship these days.
04:57.1
But let's talk about showbiz. If I'm not mistaken, like, if you go to YouTube and put Chris Tan, things pop up from nine years ago,
05:04.5
yung mga umagang kay ganda, yung mga ganun.
05:08.0
What's the reality show? I'm sorry, I don't want to bring back who got memories and all, but let's do it.
05:13.5
What's the dating reality show?
05:15.5
That we're part of before we go to the tuloy episodes.
05:19.5
So for 15 years, I was actually a producer of TV shows. A lot of people don't know that.
05:26.5
I produced TV shows on different networks like ABC5 pa nung time na yun, hindi pa nga TV5, MTV, Studio 23, GMA.
05:37.5
So I did a lot of TV shows for a lot of different networks.
05:40.5
Tapos noon, in 2015, I decided na parang, oh, why not go in front of the camera?
05:45.5
So ayun. So I got it. One day, I got a call. Sabi lang, would you be interested in going on a reality show with my girlfriend that time?
05:54.5
And sabi ko, yeah, why not? It's a good experience. It's something I wanted to experience as well.
05:59.5
So I tried it out. Okay naman. And then after that, they just started inviting me for all these different shows.
06:04.5
Wait, Chris, sorry. What was this show again? I mean, if you could-
06:08.5
It's called I Do.
06:09.5
Ah, okay. So can you give us an idea? What was the concept? What was the idea behind it?
06:13.5
Oh, the concept of the show?
06:14.5
The concept of the show was they got these couples, parang eight of us, I think, or nine, who wanted to get married.
06:21.5
Tapos the winner will get the wedding of their dreams, one million pesos, a house and lot, a business, the works, shabang, and the lights and all the glamour in it.
06:35.5
Yeah, so that's what happened. And then when I was at the finals na, ako yung nag-back out. Ayun.
06:42.5
Wait, because you thought you might win it?
06:45.5
Yeah, yeah. I actually probably would have won it. And I realized I didn't want to get married that time. So ayun.
06:52.5
I mean, of course, I'm not sure, you know, like, there's a way around it, right? Like you get the prize and then like you find the quack lawyer to sign some notary. I don't know. I'm sure you can be entrepreneurial about it. Sorry, Dave.
07:07.5
It's just wondering the sayang yung prize.
07:10.5
Well, I never really did it kasi-
07:11.5
I never really did it kasi for the prize. It was really because I just wanted, you know, I wanted to get married and I wanted to do it in the most unique way possible. So I thought, oh, this would be a good way.
07:22.5
And then, but in that, in yung sa, siguro mga two, mga one month ata kami naka-lock in, ano. Yung one month na yun, para kang nag-ano eh, nag-couples weekend, pero one month, then you realize talaga.
07:36.5
Oo, marami kami na-realize about ourselves. And we just ended up as friends.
07:42.5
Yeah. Again, I'm sorry. I didn't want to bring out the hugut at all. I just wanted a refresher.
07:47.5
Was this also the time na sumisigat yung mga Chinoy? I mean, like the Korean K-pop? And like, this is around 10 years ago, right?
07:54.5
Because I remember back in the day when I was a kid, it's more like mestizo, mexicano.
08:00.5
And then 10 years later, it's transitioning to mga chinito. I saw that in my own lifetime, yung preferences and all that shit. So I'm just saying, like, probably a part of you as a producer felt, hey, maybe they're here.
08:11.5
It's a niche for me, right? Like, to make it big.
08:14.5
Well, you know, I never really looked at it na parang kung ano ba yung flavor of the year or the month. Kasi hindi ko talaga napansin ko na meron. Pero hindi yun yung motivation for me.
08:24.5
But it's, you know, I'm not complaining. I think it's amazing that K-pop is doing so well and that they're able to export the music and entertainment worldwide. It's fantastic what it can do for Asians.
08:38.5
I'm so impressed with what they did.
08:40.5
You know, suwerte na lang ako. I guess na mukha kong chinito ako. So I can pass as Korean, Japanese, Chinese, whatever. So yun.
08:48.5
No, I mean, the reason I'm asking this, I mean, we'll go into this more in the next episode when we talk about your experiences at Chinoy in this very, you know, charged moment.
08:58.5
But, you know, I'm just saying, you know, things are, I mean, as an Asian, you know, I can, you know, pass off as a Mexican.
09:05.5
But as an Asian, like, I feel finally the Asian men are getting the kind of, you know, appreciation.
09:11.5
Because we grew up, you know, with all these blonde, blue-eyed men.
09:15.5
As the matinee idol. And like, you know, and they're like low-quality copy cats. You know? And I just felt that's something. But we can go to that later. And perhaps in the next episode, medyo, I mean, my goodness, I don't want to use the term interracial discussions.
09:28.5
But let's stick to this. Okay. So ano yung pinakaunang episode na biglang boom. Nakita mo grabe yung response. At talagang, ano yun, parang meron kang instinctive, um, response.
09:38.5
parang meron kang
09:41.4
ay kailangan ko mag-Tagalog
09:42.7
para maka-reach out
09:44.9
is less Konya than mine
09:47.5
I'm still trying to reach out
09:49.2
but my Ilokan is better
09:52.4
but can you tell me about
09:53.5
what was that first
09:56.5
and then your whole
09:57.5
political blogger
10:04.8
was the one where
10:06.8
parang I described
10:08.5
kung paano pumili
10:11.3
kung ano dapat yung tama
10:12.5
and then I gave the criteria
10:15.2
hinahanap natin lahat
10:17.1
to make a good president
10:21.1
I was eliminating
10:22.0
all the candidates
10:22.8
and then at the end
10:25.2
the title pala was
10:26.3
I'm not voting for Lenny Robredo
10:28.1
was that a clickbait?
10:32.3
could be pro-Lenny
10:33.7
so I didn't do it
10:37.6
because I was trying
10:39.7
hindi ko binoboto
10:41.7
because she's Lenny
10:42.9
I'm voting for her
10:45.7
of the qualifications
10:47.7
I was looking for
10:50.0
as a matter of fact
10:52.3
I even made a disclaimer
10:55.0
I didn't like Lenny
10:58.1
ko nakita yung post na
11:04.8
it looks so staged to me
11:06.7
there's something
11:08.4
I know what you're saying
11:11.4
cringy yung dating na yung sa akin
11:13.7
then I got to know her better
11:14.9
and then I listened to
11:16.2
yung mga sinasabi niya
11:17.5
no this girl's making sense
11:20.3
kung tinignan mo yung
11:21.8
field of candidates sa man
11:24.3
everyone had their
11:25.4
their strengths eh
11:34.9
in the short time
11:38.4
so I didn't really have
11:40.3
any of the candidates
11:41.8
it was just more of a
11:44.5
and then process of elimination
11:45.6
and then at the end of it
11:46.8
if you look at it
11:47.8
the complete package
11:49.1
the irony was this
11:52.9
I think the title
11:56.8
that a lot of people
12:00.9
the whole video anymore
12:02.2
they look at the headline
12:03.7
and then they'll start
12:05.4
based on the headline
12:06.9
what happened was
12:07.6
a lot of the supporters
12:09.2
were sharing my video
12:18.9
and then people were watching it
12:20.8
and then napapabura
12:21.7
yung mga supporters
12:23.6
so I got a lot of bashers
12:28.8
get as many views
12:35.1
dalawang account doon
12:43.9
business was good
12:45.1
business was good
12:46.5
and I didn't even
12:47.5
post it on my TikTok
12:51.8
pumasok na rin ako
12:58.1
and I was looking
12:59.1
my phone was off the hook
13:03.3
nakasilent na lang ako palagi
13:04.5
there's no more point
13:05.3
in putting the notification
13:07.6
on kasi otherwise
13:08.4
we'll never get anything done
13:13.2
the PhD in computer science
13:15.9
all of them are working
13:18.9
take out the notification
13:21.9
I see social media
13:26.7
to get the message out
13:27.7
and then I don't want to do
13:28.6
anything with this world
13:34.1
you need digital sabath
13:36.6
let's go back to this
13:38.9
obviously in my case
13:44.1
I was always more concerned
13:45.1
about international affairs
13:47.8
those are the things
13:51.1
I was talking about
13:56.1
Philippine politics
13:56.9
like oh my goodness
14:02.9
it gives a bad name
14:07.2
and then Pinoy came
14:09.0
okay something interesting
14:13.8
and I think his record
14:15.5
mixed but on the better side
14:17.3
than most of the other leaders
14:20.1
I remember very well
14:21.7
the first time I saw
14:23.1
Duterte kind of flirting
14:24.2
with the idea of presidency
14:25.8
August, July pa lang
14:27.1
and we had a show
14:31.3
all of us were there
14:32.9
he's a dark horse
14:34.2
because I always felt
14:35.5
there's something in him
14:37.2
with millions of people
14:39.3
are just so fed up
14:41.4
nonsense politics
14:43.5
I studied other countries
14:44.6
it happened in Turkey
14:45.5
it happened just now
14:55.2
Indonesia was there
14:56.3
when Jukowi's coming
14:58.8
yun ang problema sa atin
15:00.8
we think we're too exceptional
15:02.6
maraming meron sa atin
15:04.3
meron sa ibang third world
15:05.4
countries na nakikita ko
15:08.7
this guy has a chance
15:11.7
many people are too dismissive
15:13.4
so that's where I began
15:18.1
he's gonna change everything
15:19.9
you know the first interview
15:22.0
was with Maria Ressa
15:23.7
like our Rappler friends
15:25.6
to get him into the
15:27.7
and the first big event
15:33.9
I used to teach in De La Salle
15:35.4
so Maria Ressa was the host
15:36.9
nang nagpakita lang
15:38.9
and I look at this guy
15:41.3
he has what it takes
15:42.9
to really exploit
15:47.5
and disillusionment
15:48.7
and this is after
15:49.6
the Laglagbala crisis
15:53.9
where Coco's going
15:56.0
paka conspiracy theory
15:57.4
then nalamin traffic
15:58.6
during Apex Summit
16:02.0
this is the right time
16:03.7
so as early as 2015
16:05.2
hey watch out for this guy
16:06.7
and by January or February
16:08.5
he could really win
16:09.2
once B9 went down
16:10.5
I've written extensively
16:12.2
on all these issues
16:13.0
including the book
16:16.4
I also discovered
16:17.6
something about myself
16:18.6
that actually I care
16:20.1
actually when I fear
16:21.6
there's a fundamental threat
16:23.2
to our way of lives
16:24.7
or whatever little freedoms
16:26.2
I'm someone who cares
16:27.5
and at the same time
16:29.9
cancel culture type
16:32.5
many of people close to me
16:33.6
voted for Duterte
16:35.5
that they're bad people
16:36.8
maybe they didn't choose
16:39.1
where they come from
16:42.2
and the next six years
16:43.4
is really the story
16:44.7
so both on West Philippine Sea
16:46.5
and both on democracy issue
16:47.9
I tried to push back
16:50.5
the 2022 elections came
16:52.0
and I was realizing
16:56.7
Marcos most likely
17:00.1
the least I can do
17:01.1
is to go vlogging
17:06.4
me on CNN International
17:07.6
on Poor Farid Zakarian
17:09.3
that Richard Hedaran
17:11.7
that Richard Hedaran
17:12.5
has his place there
17:14.5
more or less there
17:15.3
so let's do something
17:16.5
so that was the context
17:18.5
essentially I became
17:26.9
what was the thought process
17:28.1
I gave you a very
17:31.6
of my thought process
17:34.3
about Philippine politics
17:36.9
probably on Philippine politics
17:41.3
seven, eight, nine years ago
17:43.9
I was very interested
17:44.8
in the West Philippine Sea
17:45.8
foreign policy issues
17:47.0
domestic politics
17:48.4
was always something
17:49.5
in the Philippines
17:51.6
what is your thought process
17:55.5
I do all of these things
17:57.4
I'm a motivation coach
18:00.0
like I have to say
18:00.9
something about this
18:07.8
and it's very related
18:11.0
to the government
18:17.0
it's financial freedom
18:18.3
it's being a sovereign
18:20.0
it's not allowing
18:28.0
to the government
18:28.7
if you really think about it
18:30.3
I can talk about that
18:31.2
a little bit later
00:00.0
19:05.800 --> 19:06.560
19:08.6
yun yung pagkakaiba
19:10.9
when they debate with me
19:16.3
so that we can both
19:19.0
parang common ground natin
19:20.4
and where is that
19:22.4
where we can have
19:29.5
want to talk more
19:33.2
authoritarian government
19:40.3
I think he's clinically insane
19:41.7
to be honest with you
19:42.6
I think he's a psychopath
19:43.9
that was the selling point
19:48.9
I was contractually obliged
19:50.9
not to say something like that
19:53.4
I'm not necessarily
19:54.6
disagreeing with you
19:58.5
you have to say it
19:59.6
call a spade a spade
20:04.1
I'm not trying to insult anyone
20:08.8
about talking about
20:18.4
you look into a person's eyes
20:20.2
you can tell if somebody
20:24.9
you look into their eyes
20:26.0
you can see their soul
20:27.1
or the lack of it
20:27.9
this guy does not have a soul
20:38.8
believe that what
20:39.6
they're doing is good
20:40.5
and it is insane lang
20:42.1
that I see so many people
20:43.8
that are mesmerized
20:47.9
na okay lang pumatay
20:49.2
kasi masama naman
20:54.4
kaya nga may batas tayo
20:59.5
why do I hate him so much
21:03.8
the funny part is
21:08.8
who murders people
21:11.1
and brags about it
21:15.4
it's not a person
21:17.2
it's the idea of it
21:22.3
in this world now
21:23.4
marami sa mga tao
21:25.3
ang hindi na marunong
21:27.9
and that's what's
21:29.6
giving rise to authoritarianism
21:31.0
all over the world
21:31.6
even in the United States
21:37.2
he probably will win
21:39.1
he probably will win
21:45.2
whatever anyone did to him
21:47.3
and it's going to be insane
21:48.8
what's going to happen
21:54.5
this is the problem
21:58.4
sa mga tao ngayon
22:02.0
wala nang critical thinking
22:08.0
is that I can somehow
22:09.1
instill critical thinking
22:14.3
and how they look at things
22:16.5
critical thinking
22:17.0
and also self-awareness
22:18.8
there's no such thing
22:20.4
as self-awareness anymore
22:23.7
walking on this earth
22:27.4
as if they believe something
22:29.6
it's a borrowed belief
22:30.8
because they can never
22:32.4
defend what they believe in
22:34.0
that's why you know
22:34.9
it's a borrowed belief
22:35.7
and that's the sad part
22:37.7
about this society
22:38.6
and if I can change
22:40.0
one person's mind
22:41.0
by the vlogs I do
22:42.6
kahit na isa lang
22:44.0
then I've done my job
22:45.7
and that's why I do it
22:47.2
and that is really
22:49.5
for doing these vlogs
22:53.3
my understanding there is that
22:55.5
a lot of people are voting nowadays
22:57.6
not necessarily because they want
22:59.8
but because they hate so much
23:01.0
candidate B, C, and D
23:02.7
you can call it negative solidarity
23:06.5
they gaslight you as hating Duterte
23:08.0
but actually a lot of people
23:08.9
have voted for Duterte
23:09.7
because they hate the other candidates
23:11.2
now the factual basis of that hate
23:13.2
is very questionable
23:14.0
like for instance
23:15.9
for everything that went wrong
23:18.1
you forgot 10 years of Arroyo
23:21.2
who's an ally of the Duterte's
23:22.8
who forgot Era Pestrada
23:25.0
Ramos was a cousin of Marcos
23:26.7
and helped Marcos throughout
23:29.0
he turned against the guy
23:31.2
and you can make a situational argument
23:33.5
Corazon Aquino was there
23:34.9
the mess of Marcos Sr.
23:36.3
with some success
23:37.1
and Aquino was there
23:38.1
to clear up the mess
23:39.0
of both Era Pestrada and Arroyo
23:41.4
were half successful at best
23:42.6
but to blame them
23:43.4
for everything that went wrong
23:44.5
I think that's really the problem
23:46.6
this is where the issue
23:47.6
of disinformation
23:48.4
and lack of critical thinking
23:52.0
is it social media?
23:53.9
what do you think
23:54.6
is contributing to that?
23:57.6
nonsensical information?
23:60.0
drowning in garbage?
24:01.1
is that your concern right now?
24:05.6
when social media came about
24:08.2
Facebook started 2008
24:11.1
it started to really proliferate
24:15.5
is when it really took off
24:18.1
to that next level
24:19.1
and it democratized information
24:22.2
it democratized media
24:24.5
now when it's democratized
24:30.2
vanguard to information
24:39.6
this is vetted information
24:42.6
wala na lahat yun
24:44.9
information is a free for all
24:48.1
nobody taught people
24:50.5
how to discern information
24:52.9
kasi we're so used to information
24:57.2
eto na ang tamang informasyon
24:59.3
according to what the newspaper says
25:02.4
it's not even real
25:03.1
and then with the
25:04.1
with the democratization
25:06.0
but without teaching us
25:08.7
right information
25:10.7
and this is where
25:11.5
fake news happened
25:12.5
the time of Duterte
25:13.8
with Cambridge Analytica
25:18.0
to take advantage
25:20.8
Duterte was the first
25:29.1
Duterte was ground zero
25:30.4
for Cambridge Analytica
25:34.0
used the same strategy
25:35.8
and then all the other people
25:38.4
that same strategy
25:40.1
we're just seeing it
25:41.3
six, seven years later
25:46.9
we really have to fight
25:48.7
we can't just be silent
25:49.7
because do you remember
25:51.0
nung panahon ni Duterte
25:53.3
when people were debating
25:56.3
I have a lot of friends
25:57.7
ayoko na mag social media
25:58.7
it's a lot of garbage
26:01.5
and they just shut up
26:05.2
because it was too stressful
26:06.2
now the difference now
26:08.5
is because we know
26:09.2
there's fake news
26:10.0
I encourage everyone
26:12.0
to combat fake news
26:13.8
to call out a troll
26:15.5
people that are spewing
26:18.6
and that's needed
26:20.5
that counter is needed
26:26.2
you know what I noticed
26:27.1
on TikTok especially
26:28.3
and you know this
26:29.4
I remember when I got on
26:33.3
fake news was on TikTok
26:37.1
a different reality
26:42.1
and even the comments
26:47.3
it's the bottom feeders
26:51.2
I need to be on this
26:53.4
this social media
26:54.4
because there's nobody else
27:03.2
at all my comments
27:07.3
that would support
27:08.1
are afraid to speak out
27:09.9
because if you support
27:11.0
you will get the trolls
27:16.6
to just silence you
27:19.4
poisoning the well strategy
27:21.5
the poisoning the well strategy
27:22.8
they don't even need
27:26.6
meaning people of reason
27:29.3
all they need to do
27:30.4
is to demobilize people
27:36.5
to even conversation
27:37.9
and the thing is this
27:39.3
but this is where
27:40.2
I'm a little bit self-critical
27:43.5
is a lot of people
27:45.0
who had platforms
27:49.3
people who are in the media
27:50.6
I think a lot of us
27:54.2
oh that's you know
27:55.5
that's not their level
27:58.0
I'm not gonna go down
28:01.7
bakit mo dinibate
28:09.6
that we're better
28:10.7
than everyone else
28:11.5
we should not engage them
28:12.9
we've left the field
28:15.6
I got bashed a lot
28:16.7
for engaging these people
28:20.1
that's the loser mindset
28:21.3
that's the snowflake mindset
28:25.3
and then shut down
28:26.8
not let them talk
28:27.9
and then let them
28:31.0
and then shut it down
28:31.9
and yun ang hindi
28:33.9
but that's the thing
28:38.3
you need a certain
28:39.1
degree of audacity
28:40.2
and strength of character
28:42.9
I did martial arts
28:45.7
I do all of these things
28:52.5
and death threats
28:53.2
throughout the 6-7 years or so
28:56.2
what is your routine
28:59.3
kind of a fitness person
29:00.7
motivational coach
29:02.0
did that help you
29:03.7
I know you're saying
29:04.7
dapat mas nag-engage tayo
29:06.1
pero medyo kailangan mo rin
29:08.4
and strength of character
29:13.7
masyado naman talaga
29:16.7
meron akong paniniwala talaga
29:20.8
that people are entitled
29:23.0
and I really believe that
29:25.0
that I have no need
29:26.9
to change your narrative
29:33.8
like in your mind
29:37.7
and that's your life
29:38.9
who am I to control
29:44.3
that's not my business
29:46.9
I have no need to do that
29:48.5
so when I was able
29:49.5
to let go of that need
29:52.6
then I had a lot more respect
29:54.0
for people's opinion
29:55.1
so when people have
29:56.2
a different opinion
29:58.3
as much as this is my opinion
30:02.2
I'm not trying to
30:04.4
to change their mind
30:05.7
I'm just speaking
30:07.1
to let people know
30:08.2
this is my opinion
30:10.9
what you decide to do
30:11.9
with that opinion
30:16.0
I don't mind debating
30:17.8
it's because of that
30:23.9
that's a BBM supporter
30:27.4
sabi ko okay lang ba sa'yo
30:29.1
do a conversation
30:31.1
and sabi niya okay lang ba
30:33.1
bihira ako makahanap
30:35.0
that's willing to talk to me
30:35.9
he goes yeah yeah okay
30:36.6
so we were talking
30:37.9
and when I was talking to him
30:39.2
I'm not combative normally
30:40.6
in a conversation actually
30:41.9
so I was just listening to him
30:43.9
and at the end of it
30:45.5
he started to doubt himself
30:46.8
and he couldn't even
30:48.8
why he was voting
30:53.7
and then suddenly
30:54.6
I found out he was INC
30:58.8
wanted to talk to me
31:00.7
and they wanted to debate
31:04.1
that escalated fast
31:07.8
but the thing was for me
31:11.6
remixing my video
31:13.0
challenging my perspective
31:18.0
people were calling me stupid
31:21.8
remember there was this very pop
31:23.5
I forget who it was
31:24.6
yung mga sikat na vloggers
31:26.2
marami sikat na vloggers
31:28.5
at saka si BBM eh
31:31.1
talaga to si Chris
31:32.4
he was talking about inflation
31:33.4
he doesn't know what he's talking about
31:34.9
the US has high inflation
31:36.9
they borrow a lot of money
31:39.0
the debt to GDP ratio is higher
31:44.2
so somebody says na
31:46.5
that's a logical fallacy eh
31:49.5
it's correct because everyone else is doing it
31:52.2
that's a logical fallacy
31:58.5
try to debate that
32:00.8
he or she wanted to debate with me
32:02.4
I'd be more than happy to
32:03.6
but there was a part of me
32:06.4
you mean the whataboutism
32:08.1
I mean the whole whataboutism
32:11.7
the two rungs don't make it right
32:12.9
like that's the part
32:13.8
yeah exactly yeah
32:16.5
when I hear logic like that
32:18.2
wow there's no point in
32:19.3
debating with them
32:21.2
and I did not want to
32:22.7
I did not want to amplify
32:26.2
kaya I didn't want to debate
32:27.7
they can amplify me
32:30.4
because they're posting my videos
32:32.5
but I did not want to debate
32:35.3
a person that's smart
32:37.6
which point was right
32:40.0
they just have to hear both sides
