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00:00.2
Okay, this is it. R&R is back before the end of the year, but hindi pa rin ito year-ender
00:06.7
kasi we're hoping to pull off an RRL with Lisandro Claudio, Dr. Claudio, later this week
00:13.6
para talagang year-ender na year-ender.
00:15.9
Pero bago tayo mag-year-ender, mag-pre-year-ender tayo kasi ang dami nangyari.
00:21.4
Sir Ronald Llamas, thank you very much for joining us again, joining each other again
00:26.1
kasi co-host ka eh.
00:27.5
Like, Merry Christmas, Big R! This is Small R reporting.
00:33.2
Merry Christmas, The R!
00:34.5
Very small, very small R.
00:36.8
Very small but terrible.
00:39.6
Okay, okay. Sir R, hindi naman tayo kulang sa Maritas.
00:42.8
Pagtalingan sa Maritas at Mekos Mekos, medyo Big R tayong pareho.
00:47.5
Okay, ganito. Before tayo, pupunta kay Robin Hood, Chacha, discussions about constitutional change
00:52.5
kasi si Robin Hood pa dili, meron siya mga proposals about term limits,
00:57.2
yung presidential...
00:57.5
Presidente, dalawang term, just like in the past, to give time for continuity, time for, you know, re-elections.
01:03.1
At the same time, of course, Martin Romualdos is also talking about charter change.
01:06.2
Of course, we know, ang context naman nun is to prevent siguro that Duterte is coming back, right?
01:10.9
But let's keep it for the next episode.
01:13.4
This episode, dahil ang dami mga nagsasabi pa rati,
01:16.5
bakit kayong dalawa ni R&R, di ba, strategist kayo, puro mga pinag-usapan nyo lang, unit team?
01:21.8
Ito na, pag-usapan natin na opposition.
01:23.7
Okay, katulad ng alam natin, may nag-tipo,
01:27.5
tweet yata yung sa mga kaibigan natin, may fellow Cordillera, if I'm not mistaken,
01:31.8
tweeted a picture recently showing the new face of the opposition, or is it new?
01:39.8
What's going on, Sir Ronald? Kamusta ang opposition? Pag-usapan natin.
01:44.3
Well, yung binabanggit mo yata ang picture, yung pinadala ni Liberal Party Secretary General Teddy Baguilat, no?
01:52.4
Parang sinasabi, there's a new opposition, no? Nag-co-converge.
01:57.5
Hindi ko sure, dahil parang Christmas party yata yan eh, sa bahay ni Liberal Party President Edsel Lagman, no?
02:06.7
Na maraming pumunta, nakita ko yung kaibigan ko, si Congressman Raul Daza,
02:12.9
nandun si Lenny Robredo, si Laila de Lima, nandun si Mar Rojas, saka yung anak niya, no?
02:19.5
Namukhang may political future na hinahanda.
02:23.6
Nandun din yung si Senator Kiko Pangilipo.
02:29.9
Andun din yung slate niya yata, last election, no?
02:34.9
Si Sunny Matula, si Lacson, no?
02:40.5
Tapos nandun din yung Makabayan Black, si Nelly Colmenares, at saka si Congresswoman Castro, no?
02:49.0
Si France Castro, gitnang-gitna siya.
02:52.7
And sa likod lang ni Lenny Robredo right away. Wow.
02:57.5
Kaya, ayan, if it is more than a Christmas party, then bagong political realignment na pwedeng mangyari yan, no?
03:08.8
Pero, in one sense, pinose siya ni LP, Secretary General Teddy Baguilat, so there must be something there.
03:17.2
Pero at the same time, sinasabi naman ng ibang liberal party, it's just a Christmas party, no?
03:23.2
Eh, alam mo naman.
03:24.0
Eh, showbiz na naman tayo.
03:27.5
Nag-invita si Richard Hidalian sa kanyang Christmas party.
03:30.6
It's more than a Christmas party, no?
03:33.0
Di naman tayo invited.
03:35.0
It's a cabal, no? It's a cabal, no? Delikado yan, no?
03:39.4
Kaya, ayun, yan ang problema sa showbiz.
03:42.9
Pag dinay-denay mo, lalong nagiging totoo, di ba?
03:45.6
Oo, lalong lumalaki yung maritain.
03:50.7
Lalo na, nang isang gabi nga, inalas ka po si Senator Laila de Lima.
03:55.2
Sabi ko, oo, Senator.
03:57.5
Ano mo yung mga tumatawag sa iyo na Zionist, no?
04:01.4
Dahil binanatan si Laila, dahil sa kanyang statement about Hamas, kinundinan niya yung Hamas, eh.
04:09.4
Ba? Binanatan siya ng mga kaibigan mo na dapat ibalik sa preso.
04:15.0
Dahil siya ay Zionist, no?
04:17.9
Kaya mali naman talaga yung ginawa ng Hamas.
04:20.1
I mean, that's even against Islam.
04:22.1
You don't kill civilians. Mali talaga yun.
04:24.2
So, binabalansin ni Laila.
04:27.5
Binabalansin ni Laila, kinundinan niya yung Israel, kinundinan rin niya yung Hamas.
04:31.2
Ba't tinawag siya ng mga friends mo na Zionist?
04:34.1
Dapat ibalik sa preso.
04:34.7
Alay ka alam, kaibigan mo yata yung mga...
04:38.6
Dapat ibalik daw sa preso.
04:40.4
Tapos, eh, nakita ko yung...
04:41.5
Ang grabe naman, yung cancel officer niya.
04:43.6
Yung mga kasama ng mga kaibigan mo, nandun, patabi niya.
04:48.3
Alam mo, Ronald, parating mo tinitikit yung mga kaibigan mo sa akin.
04:51.3
Ako, wala akaw alam. Basta mali yung ginawa ng Hamas.
04:53.2
But at the same time, we have no less than Pope Francis
04:56.2
making a very strong statement about ditong situation sa Gaza.
04:59.9
And it's of, you know, more than 100 children every day, no?
05:03.4
Throughout the week.
05:04.2
So, grabe na rin yung situation.
05:05.5
So, yung mga katoliko dyan, kristyano dyan,
05:07.6
maybe you want to also listen to your Pope once in a while.
05:09.6
Now, anyway, balikan natin ito, no?
05:11.8
So, again, so, may naintriga ako sa picture niya.
05:15.5
I mean, Ronald, you know more than me.
05:17.9
Kasi ikaw mas kaibigan naman.
05:19.5
Hindi nga ako in-invite.
05:23.2
Hindi nga ako in-invited, eh.
05:24.5
Wala na ako sa picture, eh.
05:27.8
Dahil kaibigan mo ako.
05:30.3
Kaya inaalaskan ko si Trillanes kanina, eh, over lunch.
05:33.3
Oh, pareho tayong wadaro na.
05:35.3
Habihan sa akin niya, oh.
05:36.7
Pagpagbintangan tayo na hindi na oposisyon, ha?
05:41.9
Sabi ko, pisaan niya yun.
05:43.3
DPM na daw, sigurado.
05:44.6
Ano ba yung Richard Zaitarian?
05:46.6
Matagal na lang hindi oposisyon yun, no?
05:50.4
Third force yan, Zaitarian, third force.
05:52.9
Eto, eto, eto, boss Ronald.
05:57.2
Base sa alam natin, Marites,
05:59.8
anong last time na nag-Mekos-Mekos
06:01.9
lahat ng mga oposisyon na yan
06:03.1
na kasama yung mga kabayan,
06:04.6
kasama yung Liberal Party,
06:06.3
kasama yung mga medyo nasa gitna,
06:07.9
kasama yung pink.
06:08.7
I mean, grabe, Mekos-Mekos, eh.
06:11.4
When was the last time
06:12.3
that we had something like that?
06:13.5
Tapos nasa center pa si Franz Castro,
06:16.1
medyo pa center na rin
06:17.5
yung mga ibang mga kabayan, black people.
06:19.6
What's going on here?
06:20.5
Is this something special?
06:21.7
Is this something unprecedented?
06:22.9
Or based on your own experience,
06:25.0
mara naman ganun dati,
06:26.0
so maybe let's not make too much out of it.
06:28.4
Or maybe the timing's different.
06:29.9
Well, last time nangyari yan
06:31.3
was during the last election.
06:35.0
Bagamat wala sa formal slate
06:36.9
si Nery Colmenares,
06:38.4
ay dumadalo siya sa mga rallies ni Lenny.
06:41.9
At alam ko doon din yung base nila,
06:43.8
sumasama rin sa mga sorties.
06:46.8
Kaya, yung tinatanong mo,
06:48.6
when was the last time nakita ko
06:50.0
yung ganyan kabroad
06:51.1
o yung ganyang complexion?
06:52.9
Ay last election, no?
06:56.2
I will take at face value
06:58.5
yung sinasabi ng ibang kakilala ko
07:01.3
na this was just a Christmas party.
07:04.6
At yung mga kaibigan ng party president,
07:14.4
yung pinose ni Liberal Party
07:17.2
Secretary General
07:21.7
hindi ko alam po nung,
07:22.9
naisipahihwatek nun.
07:24.7
Dahil may nakalagay pa na,
07:27.3
may nakalagay na BTS,
07:29.4
bagong tatlo sa Senado.
07:32.5
Hindi ko alam kung ano ibig sabihin,
07:35.4
I'm sure, si Kiko, isa ron.
07:37.7
Possibly, si Shell Jock.
07:40.8
Mysterious yung sino yung ikatlo.
07:43.1
Sino yung bagong tatlo sa Senado.
07:48.9
Generation mo yan, di ba, yung BTS?
07:51.2
Hindi ko generation yan.
07:52.2
Asina ko eh, asina, tsaka bookload eh yung generation ko.
07:57.6
Generation mo yung BTS eh.
07:59.6
Hindi, generation mo, stairway to heaven ba yan?
08:02.8
Ano yung mga Korean?
08:09.5
ang tingin ko, merong effort para magbuo ng big tent,
08:14.9
Ano yung magiging complexion yan?
08:16.9
Tingin ko ay pinoproseso pa.
08:20.0
Pinoproseso pa yan, no?
08:22.2
meron ba mga problema?
08:23.7
Eh, lahat naman yung mga efforts na ganyan may problema.
08:27.5
Lahat yan may kinks eh.
08:30.4
let's see kung how it will unfold.
08:33.1
Ang sigurado ko lang ay merong gano'ng effort
08:35.5
to big a bigger tent
08:37.7
for the oposisyon.
08:40.5
yung oposisyon last election.
08:44.1
Dahil nowadays kasi hindi mo na alam
08:46.0
kung sinong administration,
08:47.5
sinong oposisyon.
08:50.2
yung pinakasharpest ang ballot ngayon.
08:52.2
Ngayon sa gobyerno,
08:53.2
yung kanyang kaalyado eh.
08:55.0
Yung mga Duterte,
08:58.8
hindi na sila administration.
09:00.7
Will they be the new oposisyon?
09:02.6
I'm not too sure.
09:05.5
aabot ba sila sa 2025?
09:08.5
I'm not too sure.
09:12.4
tingin ko itong next few months
09:17.1
going into the midterms.
09:19.2
Sinong oposisyon,
09:28.9
it's a Christmas party,
09:31.0
it's not like you randomly
09:32.2
just meet everyone.
09:35.0
is a spiritual moment.
09:36.3
It's a time of reflection.
09:38.7
it's not a small deal
09:40.0
na nagsama yung mga yan.
09:45.2
people that were seen as
09:46.3
on very different side of things.
09:47.7
Especially yung panahon nyo,
09:49.5
Ito yung mga bumabanat sa inyo,
09:52.7
pinaka bumabanat sa inyo
09:53.6
yung mga mga kabayan bloc.
09:54.8
And then, of course,
09:55.3
there's that history of Digong
09:56.6
and the mga kabayan bloc
09:58.8
a temporary alliance.
10:00.1
Even during Arroyo time,
10:01.6
There was a kind of
10:02.2
a temporary alliance.
10:06.2
what we are seeing,
10:07.5
there's a level of comfort.
10:09.2
I'm looking at the picture here
10:10.3
and I'm seeing a lot of
10:12.5
a lot of comfort level.
10:13.9
It doesn't look like
10:15.4
a pakute lang na picture.
10:18.6
it looks like you and me
10:19.8
next to each other.
10:21.8
talagang komportable,
10:23.0
pwede magmarites.
10:28.7
for Nery Colmenares
10:29.6
to be put in the slate,
10:31.7
there had to be ano eh,
10:33.0
there had to be push eh.
10:35.2
I posted something that
10:36.1
it's just natural
10:37.0
for Nery to be there.
10:38.7
that there's some
10:39.6
hardcore liberals
10:40.5
na ayaw talaga sa mga yan
10:41.8
kasi tingin nila sa mga yan,
10:46.6
it looks like a lot has changed.
10:52.1
yung mga rabid dilawan,
10:53.6
if I can put it that way,
10:55.1
medyo na marginalized na
10:56.3
because of this back-to-back.
10:57.4
Tatlo na yung defeat nila,
11:00.6
Do you think there's a chance
11:01.3
na yung mga rabid dilawan
11:04.0
you know who are these people,
11:05.2
Na ma-marginalize na sila
11:10.9
sila yung pinaka-obstacle
11:14.3
functional opposition,
11:15.4
to put it honestly.
11:16.3
I know their intention is good.
11:17.8
I personally know
11:19.0
some of these people
11:20.2
kasi they're holding back
11:21.6
the opposition eh.
11:22.4
Itong cancel culture,
11:25.5
insulting yung mga tao
11:27.8
kay Marcos and Digong,
11:29.1
yung unwillingness
11:30.7
the reality of the matter,
11:32.6
just blaming it all
11:33.6
on disinformations.
11:35.6
if you say everything
11:36.2
is about disinformation,
11:37.4
you're actually pushing
11:39.7
the false bobotante narrative,
11:41.6
You're just saying
11:42.2
all voters are fools,
11:43.3
therefore they voted,
11:45.7
do you think there's a chance
11:46.5
these people will be pushed aside
11:47.8
itong mga radical
11:48.4
rabbit dilawans and all
11:53.3
and the progressives
11:54.4
and all can come together?
11:57.5
I'm not too sure,
12:04.4
Pero marami nangyayari
12:06.7
one and a half years,
12:12.4
Marcos loyalists,
12:14.7
ng mga independents
12:20.4
Marcos government
12:21.8
may kaunting adjustment.
12:26.8
are becoming less critical
12:28.1
of the Marcos administration,
12:35.6
Are becoming less critical
12:37.0
of the Marcos administration
12:38.7
and more critical
12:40.1
of the other half
12:42.6
yung mga Duterte,
12:46.0
let me correct you,
12:51.8
nagsishrink na sila.
12:53.9
from different parts
12:55.1
of the political spectrum,
12:57.0
may mga pagbabago,
12:58.7
May mga pagbabago.
13:00.0
that's why it's called
13:02.1
Dahil nagbabago siya,
13:03.7
hindi naman siya,
13:07.3
Nagbabago rin yung
13:08.9
At nakikita natin
13:10.0
this past one and a half years,
13:11.8
yung mga pagbabago na yan.
13:14.0
Ano yung magiging
13:15.9
nagsisimula pa rin
13:17.8
Hindi pa nagsisettle down.
13:20.2
At yung nakikita mo
13:29.3
a Christmas party.
13:30.8
Pero sabi mo nga,
13:32.4
Christmas parties
13:34.4
Christmas parties,
13:35.9
Gatherings are not
13:36.8
simply gatherings.
13:42.4
na ibig sabihin niya.
13:44.4
kung ang nagpopose
13:46.5
Secretary General.
13:50.4
ng isang party president.
13:52.9
pwedeng may laman yan.
13:55.9
the political spectrum
13:59.1
This past one and a half years.
14:04.1
May mga adjustments.
14:05.4
Kaya hindi ako magugulat
14:06.8
dun sa mga changes
14:08.2
na pwedeng mangyari.
14:10.9
In the next few months.
14:13.2
yung next few months
14:16.3
it's an existential issue,
14:18.7
and to some extent
14:20.2
for the Marcoses,
14:21.8
but also for other forces
14:26.7
yung tinatawag mong
14:28.0
yellow opposition
14:28.9
to almost two successive elections
14:34.0
Na hindi naman yellow.
14:35.7
Na hindi naman yellow.
14:37.2
kung next election
14:39.0
ay ma-wipe out sila uli,
14:41.6
ay medyo delikado na yan.
14:45.4
they have to get their act together
14:46.9
for the next election.
14:47.8
Consolidate something viable.
14:50.2
And kahit pa pano,
14:54.5
yun yung binabanggit ko kanina
14:56.5
to build a big tent.
15:00.6
kahit makabuo ng big tent,
15:03.8
ano ba ang position mo
15:04.6
vis-a-vis the Marcos government?
15:06.6
Ano ba ang position mo
15:07.5
vis-a-vis the new opposition,
15:11.1
Ano ba ang position mo
15:12.8
doon sa mga issues
15:15.6
sa ating bansa ngayon?
15:21.7
doon sa unit team?
15:24.0
Anong position mo
15:24.9
dyan sa pagkakahati na yan
15:27.9
So, maraming mga tanong
15:28.9
for the yellow position
15:31.7
na binabanggit mo kanina.
15:33.9
Na binabanggit mo kanina.
15:35.1
But Ronald, I mean,
15:36.9
Pero kung titignan mo, Richard,
15:37.9
wala dyan si Bam Aquino.
15:41.0
Wala sa picture si Bam Aquino.
15:43.0
What are you saying?
15:43.5
You're saying to blame?
15:45.1
Wala kami sa picture.
15:47.8
Kaya I'm not too sure
15:49.3
kung yan ay papunta
15:52.2
sa isang koalisyon
16:03.5
incidental lang na siguro
16:07.4
I mean, I can put it that way.
16:08.6
I think there is something to this.
16:10.4
I think the positioning
16:11.9
the comfort level
16:16.3
But siguro the fact
16:17.0
that Bam is not there.
16:19.4
let's take the argument.
16:22.0
is Bam having a problem
16:23.5
with the opposition?
16:24.4
Is he being blamed
16:25.1
for what happened last year?
16:27.5
What is your understanding?
16:29.7
Well, I'm not too sure.
16:30.4
Honestly, I'm not putting this on you.
16:32.0
Huwag ka sa sabihin.
16:32.6
Ito naman sa Aidan
16:34.1
I honestly genuinely
16:35.1
do not know about this.
16:36.1
I'm not too sure.
16:38.0
umalis na sa Liberal Party.
16:43.4
Kasama si Sheld Jokno.
16:46.1
siyempre, sabi mo nga,
16:47.1
mahalaga kasi dyan
16:48.2
yung comfort zone.
16:50.9
hindi tayo iimbitahin dyan
16:53.0
baka makaranda mo
16:54.1
siya ng discomfort.
17:02.1
marami namang comfortable
17:05.6
yung uncomfortable
17:08.7
Thanks for making me feel
17:14.1
may marami tayong
17:14.9
mga secret lovers.
17:18.1
nag-email sa'kin,
17:19.1
nag-message sa'kin.
17:21.8
pero hindi ko sasabihin
17:24.1
Kaya naman talaga,
17:24.9
I'm not gonna name names.
17:28.3
kasi behind the scenes
17:35.0
kung may iimbita tayo.
17:50.6
in fairness naman,
17:51.4
kasama natin sila,
17:52.6
marami dyan sa picture.
17:54.8
kasama ko a few months ago
18:00.0
Ikaw ang hindi invited.
18:01.8
Ikaw ang hindi invited.
18:12.8
the reason ayaw nila
18:21.3
Sasabihin ni Aydar
18:25.2
Christian Esguerra
18:29.6
Love na love ka ni Christian.
18:35.5
the record straight here
18:37.7
yung love letters
18:43.1
let's put on our hat
18:45.3
Anong mga kailangan natin
18:48.0
para itong opposition
18:49.9
united opposition
18:52.0
crystallized reality?
18:53.5
Maybe not for 2025,
19:10.2
standard bearer last year.
19:13.9
Yung Latin popularity,
19:15.5
yung Latin support
19:17.3
Siya pa rin yung tinitignan
19:18.4
ng yung mga pink.
19:21.6
new kid in the block.
19:22.9
Siya yung may Mandela aura.
19:25.2
May Mandela moment.
19:27.3
kung yan ay mamamaximize,
19:29.3
meron niyang potential.
19:32.4
lone opposition sa Senate,
19:34.1
and she's doing quite well
19:36.0
as the lone opposition
19:40.4
yung tatlong Maria
19:41.5
will play a crucial role.
19:43.1
Kung magkakaroon,
19:44.4
sila ng nationwide tour,
19:50.6
Pwedeng yung natitira
19:53.4
can be harnessed.
20:00.5
unti-unting mahatap,
20:04.3
kung madedevelop nila
20:05.7
yung isang magandang
20:06.4
political narrative,
20:07.9
kung madedevelop nila
20:08.9
yung isang magandang
20:09.8
organizing strategy,
20:12.0
Yung tatlong icons na yan,
20:24.5
going into the midterm
20:30.8
I would add na siguro
20:32.5
is also quite important here.
20:34.4
if you look at the level of
20:38.8
pag si Franz Castro
20:39.7
nagkaroon ng intervention,
20:41.9
the same kind of stigma
20:43.8
to other people of
20:45.3
You get what I'm saying?
20:51.8
and then may credibility
20:53.7
when it comes to her
20:55.2
especially about,
20:55.9
I'm not saying the others
20:57.2
but I'm just saying
20:57.7
in her case kasi,
20:58.8
specialty talaga niya
21:01.0
when she goes after
21:02.5
on debt-related issue,
21:04.1
on Philippines PISA rankings,
21:05.5
on the Philippines
21:05.9
horrible education crisis
21:08.2
may key kasi talaga siya eh.
21:09.8
May say talaga siya eh.
21:14.2
remove that kind of
21:16.7
dun sa mga ibang kaibigan natin
21:19.8
side of the spectrum
21:21.4
despite our disagreements
21:25.9
including, of course,
21:26.8
on West Philippines
21:27.4
and all which we'll discuss
21:28.9
But I think on this issue,
21:30.8
I think Franz Castro
21:32.2
is doing a very good job.
21:33.5
napansin ko kagad
21:34.2
nasa gitna si Franz Castro
21:35.4
just behind Lenny Robredo.
21:37.3
Again, you can say
21:39.0
pero trabaho natin yan,
21:40.3
to make story out of things,
21:46.3
na most of the times
21:50.1
you only need to be right
21:52.2
and sa dami natin
21:53.8
we're still gonna be right
21:56.7
it's not the error rate,
21:57.9
it's the success rate.
22:02.6
dala yung volume.
22:03.6
Nananalo tayo sa volume
22:04.6
para tayong SM, eh.
22:05.7
Dinadala sa volume,
22:06.7
nevermind yung quality.
22:09.2
they don't have it,
22:11.7
just another point on this
22:14.0
before we close this episode,
22:15.2
and go to your favorite politician,
22:16.7
Robin Hood Padilla.
22:20.8
to what degree do you think
22:21.7
itong UNITEAM implosion
22:27.3
a united opposition,
22:30.6
and let's talk about the risks,
22:31.9
that it may give this
22:36.4
let's go for gold.
22:40.5
may not necessarily be good
22:41.7
for the opposition,
22:42.6
and BBM might turn into
22:43.9
something else, right?
22:45.2
BBM is nice to the opposition
22:46.6
because his opposition
22:48.1
is Duterte in a way, right?
22:50.9
is really marginalized,
22:52.1
then baka biglang maging
22:53.7
I think fights over
22:54.8
historical revisionism,
22:56.9
fights over Maharlika Fund,
22:58.2
those things could intensify again, right?
22:59.5
So, it's a very difficult
23:00.7
balancing act, right?
23:01.8
Ang dami mga moving parts dito,
23:03.4
hindi eto straightforward, eh.
23:05.1
Kasi may risk, eh.
23:07.3
parang may type 1, type 2 error.
23:09.1
If they go for gold,
23:10.8
baka they overshoot,
23:12.2
and they make BBM
23:14.0
like, oh, wait lang,
23:15.2
I cannot deal with two fronts
23:16.4
at the same time.
23:18.0
at the end of the day,
23:18.5
better be safe with Sara,
23:20.5
At the same time,
23:21.3
if they don't also do anything,
23:22.4
they might miss the train, right?
23:24.5
a historic opportunity
23:25.6
to come back stronger than ever
23:29.3
imploding in ways
23:31.1
expected in terms of
23:33.5
Maybe not the direction,
23:34.9
but the velocity,
23:36.4
is really something
23:37.3
thanks to Tatay Digong,
23:39.3
we're going to discuss later on.
23:41.3
suspended yung show niya,
23:43.0
we'll talk about that later on.
23:44.2
How do you see that, Ronald?
23:45.6
Kasi mahirap na balik
23:48.5
and at the same time,
23:49.4
huwag mong sobrang yan,
23:51.0
huwag mong ano yan, no?
23:52.6
kung titignan natin
23:54.4
ng objective condition
23:55.8
at saka subjective force,
23:58.6
yung objective condition
24:03.1
ng Marcos government
24:04.5
sa ating constitutional order,
24:09.5
na katulad ng tatay niya,
24:15.5
Baka hindi masyado,
24:17.0
Baka hindi masyado, no?
24:18.1
At yun yung kanyang
24:19.1
ginagawang reinvention,
24:23.5
ng objective condition.
24:25.1
Subjective force,
24:29.9
less antagonistic,
24:39.3
na sila ay may koalisyon
24:40.8
o may tactical option
24:51.4
sa Marcos government.
24:55.5
they can scaled up,
24:59.8
sabi nga ni Teddy Bagilat,
25:01.8
bagong tatlo sa Senado.
25:03.2
How can three candidates
25:06.0
to the ruling administration?
25:09.1
even if they scaled up a bit,
25:11.2
hindi sila magiging threat
25:14.0
enough para sabihin na,
25:16.8
balik tayo sa unity team.
25:19.4
ito yung mas delikadong kalaban.
25:22.4
yellow-pink opposition.
25:26.8
that won't happen.
25:28.0
That won't happen, no?
25:29.9
independent track
25:31.6
yellow-pink opposition,
25:37.1
ruling administration, no?
25:40.1
ang threat pa rin talaga
25:45.5
ng unity team, no?
25:47.3
To answer your question
25:49.6
how this will affect
25:53.2
the two major players
25:55.9
sa ating political system
26:02.0
what my point was,
26:02.7
what's the Goldilocks
26:06.8
in terms of not too hot,
26:12.0
not to call that they lose
26:14.0
And your contention is that
26:15.4
it is gonna be de facto
26:19.6
because there's never
26:20.6
gonna be strong enough
26:22.5
to be really a threat
26:24.3
Now, in the long run,
26:25.2
that's a very good point.
26:27.1
Actually, I kinda see
26:28.7
And I won't be surprised
26:30.3
if Marcos also looks
26:32.0
Like, may fans sila,
26:35.0
But they can be good,
26:39.5
but counterbalance
26:42.2
Pumunta ka sa Twitter,
26:43.1
where bug-bug yung mga DDS.
26:45.0
Not with the BBM supporters,
26:46.8
it's really, you know,
26:47.9
the pinks who are,
26:49.4
going after DDS people
26:51.1
right now, di ba?
26:52.3
Ganti time na eh.
26:54.6
So, kahit hindi sila
26:59.7
a common enemy, no?
27:02.7
ng mga kaibigan mo
27:05.3
of the main blow.
27:07.7
of the main blow.
27:08.5
Who is the main enemy?
27:11.4
Less antagonistic.
27:14.5
ito Leninism, no?
27:16.1
Hindi Lenin Robledo.
27:18.2
Sabi ni Lorraine Badoy,
27:22.5
komunista daw na.
27:24.7
That's making clear.
27:25.9
Baka ma-red tag na naman sila.
27:31.2
nagbago na ang red tagging eh.
27:34.1
ang nire-red tag na ngayon
27:43.7
This is happening right now.
27:45.5
This is SMNI universe.
27:50.0
I think that's a perfect transition
27:51.8
from the other side of the fence.
27:53.6
I think we're pretty done
27:56.4
binababash na naman tayo
27:57.7
dito sa opposition.
27:59.5
inavoid ko na lang
28:00.3
mag-vogue about opposition
28:01.9
kasi grabe silang magalit sa atin.
28:09.6
who see themselves
28:11.4
but they dare to openly
28:12.6
say ano mga kulang
28:14.4
I think a lot of people
28:17.6
courageous enough.
28:18.7
So early on pa lang,
28:20.8
and especially in my case,
28:21.8
I made a lot of enemies
28:22.8
kaya hindi tayo ininbita
28:23.7
sa Christmas party.
28:25.0
ang kutok ko ngayon,
28:25.9
ikaw mas problema
28:33.3
Polite but dangerous.
28:36.5
Thank you very much.
28:37.6
Mag-inoo na medyo.
28:38.6
That was fantastic.
28:41.4
to our favorite politician
