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00:00.0
Good evening guys, welcome to tonight's episode of Facts First.
00:27.6
Ako po si Christian Esguerra. As always, maraming maraming salamat po sa patuloy niyo pong pagsuporta dito po sa ating programa.
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Today is December 22, three days before Christmas. Sana po ay masaya po tayong lahat kung pwede nga lang.
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Pero syempre kahit karamihan po sa atin ay gustong magsaya, meron pa rin po tayo talagang kailangan pag-usapan ng mga mabigat na issues and mga problema.
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At isa nga po dyan, yung nangyayari po dyan sa West Philippine Sea.
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As you all know, patuloy po yung pambubuli ng China sa ating mga...
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mangingisda sa ating mga bangka, sa ating mga fishing vessels, dyan po sa sarili nating karagatan sa West Philippine Sea.
01:05.9
And more recently, nagsarita po itong Chinese Foreign Ministry, headed by their Foreign Minister, si Wang Yi.
01:14.7
Ang sinasabi, tayo daw po yung dapat sisihin dun po sa rising tensions dyan sa West Philippine Sea.
01:20.5
Inisa-isa po niya yung tinatawag niya ang root cause, pero mamaya po natin mag-uusapan yan.
01:25.1
Gusto ko lang po sabihin na, inga po, patuloy yung panggat.
01:27.6
Ang mga gaslight na ginagawa sa atin ng China, sa kabila po ng maliwanag na realidad na sila po yung mali.
01:35.5
Dahil unang-una, wala po sila dapat dyan.
01:37.7
So, pag-uusapan natin, saan ba nanggagaling itong lakas ng loob?
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O siguro, to be blunt about it, saan ba kumukuha ng kapal ng muka itong China?
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Na sila na po yung nangbubuli, sila pa po yung naninisi.
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At parang sila pa yung biktima.
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And pag-uusapan natin yung ingabi, I'd like to welcome to our program,
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si Retired Supreme Court Senior Associate...
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Magandang gabi po, sir. And thank you for joining us dito po sa Facts Verse.
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Magandang gabi, Christian. At magandang gabi sa mga viewers natin.
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Iga po, yung unang tanong ko, pasensya na kayo sa ginamit kong term, no?
02:13.0
Saan ba kumukuha ng kapal ng muka ang China?
02:14.9
Pero, I mean, inglisin natin para hindi naman ganun ka-blunt, no?
02:18.2
Where do you think China is getting that temerity, that gall, to actually blame the Philippines?
02:23.9
When in fact, sila'y malinaw na nangbubuli sa atin.
02:26.6
Ano pong basa niyo dyan?
02:28.5
Well, they know that they don't have any legal basis to claim the South China Sea as their own.
02:36.8
So, talagang nag-iimbento na sila, no?
02:41.2
And they think that they have a very powerful navy.
02:46.8
They have the biggest navy in the world now.
02:48.8
They are nuclear-armed.
02:51.3
Ang tingin sa atin, maliliit lang na bansa.
02:55.2
Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei.
02:57.6
Even Indonesia, sabi nga ng isang diplomat nila, deputy foreign minister, sabi,
03:06.4
when they talked to the ASEAN, a group of ASEAN ambassadors, sabi ng deputy foreign minister nila,
03:16.5
you are small countries and we are a big country and that is a fact.
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You cannot change that.
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That's how it is.
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So, yan ang tingin nila sa atin.
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We are a small country and kayang-kaya tayo militarily and economically.
03:33.1
But of course, we have also allies, no?
03:37.0
And we have a mutual defense treaty with the US, which is more powerful than China, militarily and economically.
03:46.2
And that is how small countries survive, no?
03:49.1
You have to ally yourself with the bigger countries to ward off territorial ambitions of,
03:57.6
you know, your bigger neighbor.
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And that's exactly what's happening sa South China Sea, no?
04:04.4
China wants to grab our exclusive economic zone and our island territories, the Spratlys, including Scarborough Shoal.
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Island ng China, kayang-kaya tayo.
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But they have a big problem because we have a mutual defense treaty with a state that's more powerful than them, no?
04:24.5
But it does not stop them from...
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From saying those things na tayo ang may kasalanan, tayo ang nag-uumpisa ng away.
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Eh hindi naman tayo naghanap ng away.
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Malit lang tayo ng bansa, no?
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Sila nga ang nag-uumpisa.
04:42.0
Pero they have the temerity to charge us of challenging China.
04:48.0
We don't want to challenge China.
04:49.3
But we have no choice.
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Kasi kinukuha yung ating mga isla sa West Philippine Sea and also our exclusive...
04:57.6
exclusive economic zone.
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So we have to defend that the number one obligation of an independent state is to protect, defend its territory.
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Kasi pag wala kang territory, you're no longer a state.
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Because one of the essential elements of a state is you have a territory.
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So you must defend your territory if you want to survive as an independent state, no?
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Otherwise, magiging vassal ka lang ng China and we don't want that to happen, no?
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China thinks na talagang economically, militarily, kayang-kaya yung mga neighbors nila, no?
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Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia.
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So ganyan sila...
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That's how they react.
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That's how they conduct themselves, no?
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And, well, we have our allies.
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We have international law on our side.
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And we have to leverage this, no?
05:53.1
Puntahan pa muna natin yung call between the Chinese foreign minister.
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At saka yung kanyang Philippine counterpart, si Secretary Enrique Manalo.
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Kunsaan nga sinabi ng Chinese foreign minister na yung Philippine-China relations are at a crossroads.
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Tapos, faced with the choice of where to go, the Philippines must act with caution.
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I mean, parang binibigay sa atin yung responsibility, no?
06:19.0
Yung weight of the responsibility as to what could come out of these rising tensions dito sa West Philippine Sea.
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Paano sa tingin nyo?
06:28.3
Bakit ganun yung tone?
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Ganun yung direction ng kanilang pahayag?
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Ganyan talagang conduct ng imperialist.
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An imperialist country behaves that way, no?
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Na minamaliit nila yung mga countries that are smaller than them, less powerful than them.
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Parang binubully talaga nila.
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That's how they act.
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They feel they can get away with it, no?
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Ang problema, ang ginagawa ng China, kinukonfuse ang publiko, no?
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The entire world.
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The way China frames the dispute, away ito ng China at saka US.
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Kaya huwag kayo kumampi sa US.
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Kasi neighbor kayo ng China, mas malapit kayo sa China.
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Huwag kayo kumampi sa China.
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But the South China Sea...
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The South China Sea dispute is not about China and the US fighting over a territory.
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The South China Sea dispute is about China encroaching on Philippine island territories and maritime zone.
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We are the victims here.
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Yung US naman, they're not being...
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Their territories and maritime zones are not being seized by China.
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Kaya tayo ang biktima dito.
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So, of course, since we have a mutual defensility with the US, we ask the US for support.
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And binabalik na ng China na tayong sumusuporta sa US in the China-US rivalry.
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The US is supporting us because China is grabbing our territory and maritime zones.
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We are not supporting the US because the US is powerful.
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It can fight China on its own.
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So, it's the US supporting us because China is grabbing our territory and maritime zones.
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Pero binabalik na nila na nakikialam tayo sa away ng US at saka China.
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So, binabalik na nila.
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Pag today, if China will stop grabbing our territory and maritime zones,
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when we will say,
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hindi natin kailangan yung mga EDCA sites,
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We don't have to conduct joint patrol with the US.
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We don't have to conduct military exercise with the US.
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If the Chinese will recognize our island territories and maritime zones,
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we don't have a problem with China.
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We don't have to go to the US.
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We don't have to ask the US for support.
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But because China is grabbing our territory and maritime zones,
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we have to ask for support from not only the US,
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like-minded states, no?
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So, binabalik na nila.
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Pero they are the cause of this dispute
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because inaagaw nila yung isla natin at saka maritime zones natin.
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Sila ang nag-umpisa nito.
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Kaya, hindi nga tayo lumaban eh.
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Pumunta tayo sa Hague.
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We went to court.
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Instead of sending our Marines to retake Scarborough Shoal,
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pinadala natin yung mga abogado natin sa The Hague.
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Doon tayo lumaban.
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Because we don't want war.
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We don't want a skirmish.
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Pero sinasabi nila tayo raw ang aggressive.
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Tayo raw ang nagbubuli sa kanila.
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Talagang, that's why the world is supporting us.
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Kasi alam naman ang all the states in the world know that we are the victim here.
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China is the aggressor.
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Sila naman pumasok sa teritoryo natin.
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Wala naman sila in the territory before 1970s.
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Wala naman sila sa Scarborough Shoal or sa Spratlys eh.
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1987 lang sila nag-umpisa eh.
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So, pero because they're good at propaganda
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or they think they're good at propaganda,
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yan ang ginagawa nila.
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They're saying that we are the aggressor.
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We're the one challenging China.
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We're the troublemaker.
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Ang China ang the biggest troublemaker in the South China Sea.
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Kasi they are the ones encroaching on the maritime zones of the Philippines,
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Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, and Indonesia.
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Lima ang kalaban nila.
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Yung sinasabi nyo, yan yung maliwanag talaga.
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We are the victims here.
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And China yung biggest troublemaker sa South China Sea.
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Kasi nga, kaya na-claim nila yung more than 85%
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ng South China Sea
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gamit ang isang bogus doktrin
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Permanent Court of Arbitration
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tapos naging 10-9.
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Pero sa tingin nyo,
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malinaw ba sa mundo talaga yan?
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Kung sino yung bully rito?
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At kung sino yung victim ha?
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Kasi baka naman masyado po effective yung Chinese propaganda machine
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na baka naman sa atin lang,
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in this part of the world lang,
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Tsaka nga, baka pati ilang mga Pilipino naniniwala
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dun sa framing na this is between the US
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and the China, that China encroaching
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on our territory.
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I think malinaw kasi
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the entire EU is supporting us.
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Madami yan. That's about 29-28
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The US supporting us,
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Canada is supporting us,
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Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, Indonesia,
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kasi they are also affected.
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Japan is supporting us,
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Australia, and then South Korea,
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and India. There is really
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no country that is openly
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supporting China here.
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Sabi nga ni Secretary
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Guibo, sabi niya,
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wala namang bansa sumusuporta
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sa China na supporting that China
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owns the South China Sea.
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There's not a single country,
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is supporting the claim of China
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na China owns the South China Sea.
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Not even Cambodia,
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not even yung mga supporters
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ng China, they cannot also
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say publicly na China
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owns the South China Sea. Kasi hindi naman
13:09.9
talaga. A country
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cannot own an entire sea beyond
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its 12 nautical mile
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saying that tama yung China,
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China owns the South China Sea
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as claimed by China.
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They are supporting China in some other ways
13:31.9
like Russia, like Cambodia,
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but yung sasabihin nila na
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tama ang China kasi
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China owns the South China Sea since
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2,000 years ago, wala.
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Nobody will buy that
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Kung baga malina naman sa lahat
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kung ano yung nasa saad sa batas,
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sa international. Tsaka tama ba?
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Ito yung layak ko rin po binabanggit.
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Didinig din natin from China yung word na ano,
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yung kataga na, yung statement na
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we should respect international law.
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Hindi po po pag sinabi natin
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we respect international law.
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It goes without saying that they should
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respect the Permanent Court of Arbitration
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ruling. Pati yung
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UNCLOS, diba? Tama po ba?
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Kaya nakakaano eh.
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they speak with a forked tongue.
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Yung talagang double
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talk eh. Sabi nila
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UNCLOS. Let us resolve this
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in accordance with international law
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and UNCLOS. Pero they're the first
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one to violate UNCLOS. Kasi sa UNCLOS
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naman, you cannot claim as your
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territory more than 12
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nautical miles. Claro yun.
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And no other country
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is claiming beyond 12 nautical
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miles. Sila lang talaga.
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asking that the others comply
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with UNCLOS, pero sila they will not comply.
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is the only country claiming
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that the high seas
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territory. Kasi yung South China
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Sea may high seas yan eh. About 25%
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of the South China Sea
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are high seas. Sabi ng China,
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oh, that is under the nine-dash line.
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Amin yan. That's our national territory.
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nobody has supported that.
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Not even Cambodia or Laos
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it's only China, but
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kapal ng mukha nila eh.
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Let us comply with
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international law and UNCLOS.
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Sila nga ang number one violator
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ng international law and UNCLOS eh.
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Okay. Speaking of ano, no?
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Isa-isa yun natin yung statement
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coming from the Chinese Foreign Ministry.
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Sabi nila, inisa-isa ko,
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binilang ko yung ano, yung kanilang
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nirattle off na dahilan, no?
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In gaslighting the Philippines. Sabi nila,
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the root cause nung problema,
15:53.8
is the Philippines has,
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number one, changed its
15:57.6
long-standing policy stand.
15:60.0
Number two, reneged on
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its own commitments.
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Number three, continued to provoke
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and stir trouble at sea.
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undermined China's legal rights.
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Puntahan muna natin yung number four.
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Ano ba itong pinagsasabi nila ng China's legal rights?
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nila, they own the
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But, that's against
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international law. Wala namang,
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there is no international law that says
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that they own 85.7%
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of the South China Sea.
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The international law
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allows them up to 12 nautical
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miles, just like any other state.
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they will say, under international
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law, they cannot point
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at a law which says that they can own
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the entire sea. Wala na yun eh.
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claimed the entire sea, that was in the
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UNCLOS, hanggang 12 nautical
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miles lang ma-claim nila from their
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baseline, from their coast.
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international law, we own this. Wala namang
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international law na kanila yung
17:18.2
Sure, ito na yung legal rights.
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Tsaka nga pati po yung nine-dash line,
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Ay sinabi ng PCA,
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eh walang kwenta, walang basis, di ba?
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since 2,000 years ago, eh
17:31.8
1947 lang yan eh.
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Renewing yan ng kumintang
17:36.1
government in 1947
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Hindi walang 2,000 years ago yan.
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Eh, talagang ano,
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that they are telling the world. Kaya,
17:48.0
nobody bought their claim.
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They're not one of the
17:53.8
of the tribunal, bought their
17:55.6
outlandish claim, no, na
17:58.1
since 2,000 years ago.
18:02.2
ago, nobody knew that
18:04.1
there was oil in the, in the
18:06.2
sea. Di pa nga gumagamit
18:10.6
2,000 years ago, eh.
18:14.0
Ikiniklaim na nila yung
18:15.2
oil sa South China Sea 2,000 years
18:22.0
offshore drilling,
18:25.9
ano lang eh, middle of
18:27.9
mga 1920s lang nagumpisa
18:30.1
yan eh, yung offshore
18:31.5
drilling for oil and gas, no?
18:35.6
Pag nakikita ko yung
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mga pahayag ng China na legal rights,
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naisip ko po rito,
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I don't know kung pariho po
18:43.8
tayo nang naisip minsan. Diba nung unang
18:45.7
panahon dito sa Pilipinas, may nagaangkin ng tulay?
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Okay, malang grabber,
18:51.5
Pinacover na akong ganyan before eh.
18:52.9
Akin niya may titlo,
18:53.8
ako dyan, akin niyan.
18:55.2
Oo, parang sinasabi mo na
18:57.2
akin yung Jones Bridge, gusto mo
19:01.4
Parang ganun po eh, na budol.
19:04.9
ilang beses na nabenta yung Jones Bridge,
19:09.6
Umabot na sa Supreme Court yan.
19:12.3
Totoo ba yan, yung Jones Bridge?
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Kasi gusto rin po
19:18.2
yung mga land grabbing, diba?
19:19.3
Yung sinasabi, may titlo ako ng ganitong
19:21.5
kalaking lupa, gari dyan sa Rizal,
19:23.8
diba? May mga ganun mga kwento before.
19:27.3
Meron nga nag-claim na estate nila
19:29.6
yung buong Pilipinas eh.
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Yun ang naisip ko po pag binabanggit ng China
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yung legal rights eh. Anyway, sige po,
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let's move on, no? So, apat yung binanggit
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kasi nila na, ano,
19:41.4
root cause daw, kung bakit
19:43.6
daw tumataas ang tension dyan sa
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West Philippine Sea. Nauna-una nga, ulitin ko po
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sa mga tagapakanig natin, tsaka
19:49.1
tagapanood, wala pong
19:51.2
business whatsoever dapat ang
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China dyan. They shouldn't be there in the first place.
19:56.2
Pero dahil nandyan sila,
19:57.5
bully sila, sige, pag-usapan natin.
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Yung sinasabi po nila na, ano,
20:01.6
the Philippines has changed
20:03.2
its long-standing policy stance.
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I mean, did we really change
20:07.6
our policy stance regarding this?
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Well, from the very start,
20:11.7
we followed UNCLOS, no?
20:17.7
participated in drafting UNCLOS.
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So, we claimed 12 nautical
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miles, and then our
20:25.5
nautical miles from our baselines.
20:31.1
we claimed the Spratlys since
20:37.3
because yung 1734
20:39.2
Pedro Murillo-Vera de Map, which
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is official map of Philippine territory,
20:44.2
the first official map of
20:45.6
Philippine territory during the Spanish
20:47.4
regime, kasama yung Spratlys
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as part of Philippine territory,
20:51.3
kasama yung Scarborough Shoal.
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kineclaim na natin yung Spratlys.
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And then, you had the 1808
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and Scarborough Shoal. And the last
21:09.8
Philippine territory under the Spanish
21:16.8
detailed na ang mga
21:18.7
isla sa Spratlys. And doon yung
21:29.1
Pangalan yan sa mapa
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Loita, and doon din.
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China has no map.
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lang sila nagpakita ng mapa eh.
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And in fact, even Vietnam, Malaysia,
22:02.3
and Brunei, and Indonesia,
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wala namang mapakita eh.
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Tayong may mapa na ganyan eh.
22:10.1
Brunei is claiming,
22:11.8
except for its island there
22:15.3
coastline, isa lang yung
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We're not claiming Louisa Reef.
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Indonesia is not claiming
22:24.2
any island territory in the Spatlys,
22:26.7
but yung kanilang
22:30.1
is encroached by the
22:32.2
nine-dash line. So,
22:34.4
dapat ang gawin natin,
22:36.2
we challenge China,
22:38.3
let's submit this to arbitration,
22:40.1
kasi sabi ng China, kanila yun,
22:42.2
sabi natin atin yun. So,
22:43.9
let's present it to
22:45.8
an independent tribunal.
22:48.0
That's the way it should be settled under
22:49.7
the UN Charter if there is
22:52.0
a territorial dispute,
22:54.3
hindi kayo, you cannot
22:55.9
resolve it between yourselves,
22:57.8
then you submit it to arbitration.
23:01.8
the UN Charter says,
23:03.9
all disputes must be
23:06.0
settled by peaceful means,
23:08.3
by negotiation, mediation,
23:10.2
and finally by arbitration or
23:11.9
judicial settlement.
23:15.5
we should challenge China
23:19.7
dispute to arbitration.
23:22.0
E nga po, pero what assurance
23:24.4
will we have? E kasi nga,
23:26.5
higanting bansa sila, diba?
23:28.6
Ginawa na natin yan noong
23:30.1
2016, we got the decision, diba? Pero
23:32.1
they didn't participate,
23:34.4
kahit signatory sila, tapos
23:36.0
they didn't respect the ruling.
23:39.8
I don't think China will agree
23:42.1
to submit it to arbitration, but that will
23:44.0
again prove to the world,
23:45.9
we are willing to settle this by peaceful
23:47.9
means in accordance with the UN Charter.
23:55.7
that we have the better title,
23:58.4
that's why we are going to submit it to
24:00.1
arbitration. So, yung mundo,
24:02.2
the people of the world will say,
24:04.0
oh, eh, bakit umatras ang China?
24:06.4
Sabi ng China, they have indisputable
24:10.0
Eh, pag may indisputable sovereignty
24:12.3
sila, dapat, they should be
24:14.3
confident enough to submit it to arbitration.
24:17.4
So, that is another,
24:18.5
that's, in fact, a good
24:20.4
PR on our side, no?
24:22.0
Na, we, we are willing to
24:23.9
submit it to arbitration because we are confident
24:26.1
of our position, and China,
24:28.7
alam naman, pag ayaw ng
24:30.1
China, that means mahina yung kanilang
24:34.0
That's part of the
24:35.3
winning the hearts and mind of
24:37.9
the people of the world, no? Katulad yun
24:40.4
arbitration at The Hague.
24:44.4
We were confident that we
24:46.0
would win, that the nine-dust line
24:52.0
compatible with the Omclosing,
24:53.7
compatible with international law.
24:55.6
Alam naman natin na hindi, hindi
24:58.0
sasama yung China eh.
25:00.1
But, but we have the ruling, and the world
25:02.1
is rallying around that ruling.
25:05.7
Without the ruling, we cannot
25:07.9
expect the EU or the US to be
25:10.1
siding with us, kasi ang labas niyan,
25:12.3
it's China's word against our word.
25:14.5
Wala namang desisyon
25:15.9
ng independent tribunal.
25:17.8
So, we're trying to get out of that
25:19.6
situation where China
25:21.9
claims it, we claim it, but there is no
25:24.0
third body na independent
25:25.9
who have made the determination.
25:28.8
Kailangan meron tayong ganyan
25:30.2
kasi we are the weaker
25:32.3
state here in terms of
25:34.2
military economic might, no?
25:36.4
So, we need a, we are
25:38.1
strong in the law, so let's
25:40.2
let's leverage the law
25:47.8
So, again, malino naman talaga kung sinintama
25:50.4
po rito, no? Tsaka kung sinimali.
25:51.9
Okay. Pagbasihan na nga lang natin yung
25:56.0
ruling ng Permanent Court of Arbitration.
25:58.2
Pero in the meantime, kahit na yung
26:02.2
natin, sinusuportahan tayo,
26:04.6
ang concern din yung iba mga
26:05.8
kababayan po natin, day in
26:08.1
and day out, ang hinaharas
26:10.7
yung ano natin, yung mga fishing vessels
26:14.1
natin, yung ating Philippine Coast Guard.
26:16.3
The question is, what else
26:18.0
do you think our allies should do
26:23.7
sa atin? Well, our allies
26:25.9
have offered to conduct joint
26:27.8
patrols with us in the
26:29.9
West Philippine Sea. Yung joint patrol
26:31.9
is the most robust
26:33.8
enforcement of the Arbitral
26:35.8
Award. Kasi pag-joint patrol,
26:39.7
warships of the Philippines
26:43.5
dumadaan dyan sa West Philippine
26:45.9
Sea within the 9-dash line.
26:49.7
telling China, oy, yung 9-dash,
26:51.4
9-dash line mo, has no effect
26:53.2
on us, on the world.
26:55.4
We are going to sail here because
26:59.2
of a coastal state, that's the
27:01.2
Philippines, and ito,
27:03.3
we have, there are the high seas,
27:05.4
we can, there's freedom of navigation
27:07.3
and overflight in the high seas
27:11.4
So, that is actually enforcing
27:13.6
the Arbitral Award.
27:15.7
So, the more countries
27:17.2
that will join us in joint
27:19.4
patrols, the stronger
27:21.4
the enforcement will be. And
27:23.2
walang magawa ang China because
27:25.2
China cannot stop a joint
27:31.0
the joint patrol is really
27:33.4
the most robust enforcement
27:35.3
of the Arbitral Award. Kasi
27:37.2
can you just imagine if today,
27:39.9
Christian, no? If
27:41.0
the US and its allies will
27:43.3
withdraw from the South
27:45.3
China Sea, they will not sail anymore.
27:49.3
Anong mangyari? Then China,
27:51.4
the 10-dash line will become
27:54.7
the international boundary
27:59.3
today, the US and its allies
28:02.9
It's only because the US and its allies
28:07.4
patrols there, that
28:09.4
China cannot claim
28:10.7
as its national boundary, the
28:13.3
10-dash line. Kasi dinadadaan
28:19.2
the US and its allies will withdraw,
28:23.0
walang makahinto sa China
28:24.7
to declare the 10-dash line as
28:27.2
its national boundary. So, napaka-importante
28:29.5
yung joint patrol. And I'm happy
28:31.4
that the government now is
28:33.3
open to joint patrols
28:37.8
That is really the correct
28:38.9
position. Because the
28:41.3
more joint patrols there,
28:45.3
robust the enforcement of the
28:47.4
Arbitral Award. Kasi that's really the
28:49.3
enforcement of the Arbitral Award.
28:53.7
joint patrol is very
28:57.2
Kasama po ba dyan yung pag-escort
28:59.1
sa ating mga resupply missions? Kasi ito yung
29:01.1
madalas hinaharas ng China.
29:03.7
Well, maganda din yan. If the US
29:05.7
conduct a joint patrol
29:13.0
Sierra Madre, maganda
29:15.3
din yun. I hope they
29:17.3
will do that. But that's
29:18.7
we can always time the
29:21.4
resupply mission with the joint
29:23.4
patrol if we want to.
29:27.7
Masagi. Maraming salamat po
29:29.2
Justice Carpio. Napaka-lalim
29:31.9
na naman po ng discussion natin.
29:33.6
And hindi pa po ito yung huli.
29:35.1
Kasi nakaka-high blood. Miski gusto natin
29:37.5
ano lang, good thoughts for
29:39.3
Christmas. May mga ganyan kasi.
29:42.4
Anyway, maraming maraming
29:43.6
salamat po sir for joining us again dito po
29:45.6
sa Faxverse. Thank you. Thank you Christian
29:47.6
for inviting me again. Thank you
29:49.6
so much. Thank you to our viewers.
29:51.4
Okay. Maraming salamat sir and
29:53.3
Merry Christmas po. Merry Christmas
29:59.1
Justice Carpio. Nakausap natin
30:01.2
tungkol dito sa gas lighting
30:03.2
no? Marino naman sa inyo yung gas lighting no?
30:05.9
Yung ikaw na yung victim mo, ikaw pa
30:09.4
Parang ano yan eh. Imagine na nyo
30:11.1
nasa bakuran mo ikaw.
30:14.7
anihin yung tinanin mo let's say pechay
30:17.2
o kaya sili. Nagtanong ka ng sili.
30:19.5
Gusto mong pitasin yung dahong sili.
30:21.3
Sili man lang dahil magluluto ka.
30:23.7
Pagtingin mo yung kapitbahay mo
30:25.3
nandun. Nagpapakasasa
30:27.5
dun sa sarili mong
30:28.5
mga tanim. Tapos ayaw umalis
30:31.3
dun sa bakuran mo mismo.
30:33.6
At pag sinabi mo, amin po
30:35.4
ito no? Meron po kaming titlo.
30:37.4
Napakalinaw naman po. Sabihin
30:39.2
sa'yo, kasalanan mo lahat to.
30:43.3
lahat to. Pinoprovoke mo kami.
30:46.1
Yan. Yan ang ginagawa sa atin
30:47.5
ng China. Tapos sinasabi
30:49.3
nila, meron kami legal rights para mapunta
30:51.2
rito sa bakuran nyo.
30:53.0
Anyway, napakalinaw naman po
30:55.4
talaga kung sinintama at saka mali rito.
30:57.8
Pero gusto po natin batiin yung
30:59.1
mga trolls natin yung gabi na mukhang
31:01.1
todo kayod po. Mukhang humahabol
31:03.3
three days before Christmas.
31:05.2
Ano ba? Nagpaparamdam ba kayo ng mga Christmas bonus?
31:08.1
Hindi ba kayo nabigyan ng
31:09.0
Christmas package?
31:11.2
Yung mga miskitigay ng 500 pesos.
31:13.8
Yung merong walang tatak na
31:15.4
pineapple tidbits
31:17.3
ba yun? O fruit cocktail?
31:20.0
Mukhang gusto yung humahabol ah.
31:24.1
Mukhang todo kayod kayo.
31:25.4
Napakalinaw naman discussion dito.
31:26.9
Napakalinaw po kung sinintama at saka mali.
31:29.4
Ang problema rito sa mga kababayan
31:34.4
ibinibenta ang ating
31:37.2
sariling interest. Wala kang pinagkaiba
31:39.2
rin sa ilang mga politiko natin na biglang
31:40.9
nagtatapangan niya yun.
31:42.3
Wila nagiging matapang sa kanilang
31:45.1
paninindigan dito sa
31:46.9
pangbubuli ng China sa ating
31:48.6
mga mangisda, sa ating mga
31:52.9
Coast Guard. Dahil siguro mag-eeleksyon
31:56.7
Pero nakara-administrasyon, napakatahimik nila.
32:01.2
magising po kayong lahat, no?
32:05.2
Magising po kayong lahat.
32:07.6
Oo. Sana po magising
32:09.3
po yung itong mga
32:10.6
nagbubulag-bulagan na
32:12.9
kahit napakalino naman po kung sino yung mali,
32:15.4
pinagtatanggol pa.
32:17.1
Okay? So, paano ba yan?
32:19.3
Three days ago, before Christmas,
32:21.2
ano ba sa'yo ba kayo?
32:23.0
Gusto rin natin mag-isip ng magagandang
32:27.3
pero ganun talaga eh.
32:30.0
May issue pa rin dito sa China, eh.
32:33.5
Bago po tayo magtapos, gusto ko lang po
32:35.3
magpasalamat dito kina
32:36.8
Ma'am Celarina Pasion,
32:39.5
tapos yung asawa niya si Mr. Albert
32:43.2
tapos si Ma'am Christy
32:47.0
from Canada. Gulat ako, may pinadala
32:49.1
sila sa atin dito.
32:51.2
Sa bahay, and we really appreciate it.
32:54.0
We really appreciate it.
32:55.8
Maraming maraming salamat po
32:57.1
kina Ma'am Celarina,
32:59.1
tsaka kay Ma'am Christy.
33:00.8
Tapos nga po, belated the wedding
33:03.0
anniversary kina Ma'am Celarina Pasion
33:05.1
and Mr. Albert Pasion
33:07.0
last December 20.
33:12.1
Okay, maganda lang. May episode
33:13.2
pa tayo sa Monday, ha? Kala niyo,
33:14.8
miski Pasko, magbe-break tayo.
33:16.8
May episode tayo sa Pasko.
33:18.9
Nagpag-uusapan natin.
33:21.2
Eh, yung pagsuspindi
33:22.4
ng National Telecommunications Commission
33:31.7
na pinagtatanggol ng ilang mga politiko ngayon,
33:35.5
Sen. Amy Marcos, Sen. Robin Padilla,
33:39.6
diba? Tototanggol sila ngayon
33:40.9
sa SMNI, no? May mga press freedom,
33:43.1
press freedom pang nalalaman, no?
33:44.9
Yung ilan sa kanila.
33:47.0
Bakit kaya hindi natin nadinigyan ganyang
33:48.6
pagtatanggol nung ABS-CBN yung
33:51.2
pinabalahura ng dating
33:53.0
pangulo na kaalyado nila?
33:55.6
Yung mas lililinaw pa ba rin sa isya
33:57.0
ng press freedom, nung sinabi ni dating
33:58.7
pangulong Rodrigo Duterte, that he would
34:01.0
see to it that ABS-CBN
34:02.7
would be out. Diba?
34:05.0
Nung pinagmumura niya
34:06.7
yung mga members ng media.
34:09.0
Nasaan ba itong mga politiko na ito na bigla na
34:10.9
na nabubuhay ngayon? Pati yung
34:12.8
si Harry Roque, pumakahirit
34:15.3
ng press freedom ngayon, ha?
34:17.4
Parang hindi siya enabler
34:18.6
nung pangpanduduro
34:22.9
term, no? Nung kanyang
34:29.2
pamamahayag. Wala pa sa
34:31.0
din, press freedom, press freedom, no?
34:37.6
Sige, kita-kita po tayo sa
34:38.9
Monday, okay? Monday,
34:41.0
that's Christmas Day. Maraming maraming
34:42.8
salamat po sa inyo. Ako po si
34:44.7
Christian Esguerra and sa team replay
34:47.1
tsaka sa team delay, maraming salamat po.
34:49.5
Sana after itong episode na ito,
34:51.1
you walk away with more
34:53.0
knowledge here, no? So, maraming
34:55.0
time brain cells na nagamit. Hindi katulad
34:56.9
ng mga trolls dyan. Hindi naman gumagamit
34:59.2
ng utak, eh. Gumagamit lang ng
35:00.8
daliri, muscle memory
35:02.3
para makapang lamang sa kapwa
35:04.7
in the hopes na madadagdaga ng kanilang
35:06.9
bonus o magkakabonus sila
35:10.5
paparating na Pasko.
35:12.8
Sorry na lang po kayo kung wala kayong ayuda,
35:15.0
no? Kasi napaka-sama
35:16.8
naman kasi nung pinasok niyong
35:21.1
Hassle buhay ang ginagawa niyo.
35:23.4
Okay? Magandang gabi po sa inyo.
35:26.4
Kasi kasama niyo mga trolls.
35:27.7
And thank you very much for watching us.
35:30.1
Magandang gabi po.
35:51.1
Thank you very much for watching us.
