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Trillanes interview: Is BBM cooperating with the ICC?
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Panoorin ang ating episode kasama si former Senator Sonny Trillanes tungkol sa diumano’y pakikipagtulungan ng Marcos administration sa International Criminal Court laban kay Rodrigo Duterte.
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00:00.0
Good evening po sa inyo lahat.
00:26.5
Ako po si Christian S. Garand.
00:28.0
Welcome po sa ating episode ngayong gabi.
00:29.6
Dito po sa ating Facts First Podcast.
00:32.3
So sana po ay nasa mabuting kalagayan po kayong lahat.
00:35.6
Pag-uusapan po natin ngayon yung maugong pa rin po na issue
00:38.7
pagdating po sa ICC.
00:40.2
Kasi yung mga nagtatanong,
00:41.9
nagko-cooperate na ba yung Bambu Marcos Administration
00:44.5
dito sa International Criminal Court?
00:46.4
Kasi diba medyo nadidilig na natin
00:48.8
recently na meron na raw parang tao yung ICC dito sa Pilipinas
00:55.4
at medyo nagtatanong-tanong na quietly.
00:57.7
At actually,
00:58.5
mismong si former human rights lawyer
01:01.4
and former Duterte spokesman Harry Roque
01:03.7
ang nagsabi, diba?
01:05.0
Naglaba siya ng kanyang vlog.
01:06.4
Sinasabi niya, nandito na raw.
01:08.5
At sabi niya, in so many words,
01:11.5
hindi pwedeng hindi alam ni President Marcos siya, no?
01:13.9
Nagko-cooperate na rin now.
01:15.5
So ito na natin, no?
01:16.5
Makakausap po natin ngayon.
01:19.5
Correct me if I'm wrong, no?
01:20.8
Alam ko siya yung one of the first to file
01:23.8
a case against former President Duterte
01:27.5
dito sa ICC.
01:28.5
Pero technically, parang may nauna yata sa kanya, no?
01:31.1
Na-clarify natin sa kanya.
01:32.7
So I'd like to welcome again to our program
01:34.5
si former Senator Sonny Trillanes.
01:37.6
Magandang gabi po, sir.
01:38.6
And thank you for joining us dito po sa Facts Verse.
01:41.3
Magandang gabi sa iyo, Christian,
01:42.8
at sa ating mga viewers.
01:45.1
Technically, kayo ba yung nauna o pangalawa?
01:49.5
Ang nangyari kasi noon,
01:51.5
we were working with, ano,
01:54.9
Atty. Jude Sabio
01:56.2
kasi nung time na yun,
01:58.5
we were ready to file,
02:00.1
kaso hindi pa natin na-exhaust
02:02.3
yung lahat ng remedies available
02:05.1
at primarily, yun yung impeachment.
02:09.4
So we needed to file the impeachment first,
02:12.6
exhaust muna yun bago kami magpa-file.
02:15.6
Kaso nakita namin,
02:16.7
that would delay the filing even further.
02:20.3
So naganap kami ng abogado
02:22.4
na magpa-file nung communication
02:25.7
at yun nga,
02:27.0
ang nakita,
02:28.5
na-refer sa amin,
02:30.3
is si Atty. Jude Sabio,
02:32.0
yung maong si Atty. Jude Sabio.
02:35.2
So may ugnayang kami noon,
02:38.0
siya yung pinapunta namin doon
02:41.2
para i-file yun
02:42.5
para habang nagaantay yung
02:44.5
sa resulta ng impeachment,
02:46.8
hindi nakapag-delay ng oras.
02:48.8
Kasi ang policy yan,
02:50.1
is kung mauna kang mag-file,
02:53.8
mas mauna kang bidigan ng atensyon.
02:56.6
Okay, eventually,
02:57.8
nung June 2017,
02:59.4
natapos na yung impeachment case.
03:02.3
So na-dismiss siya.
03:04.4
So wala nang remedy available
03:06.6
sa mga Pilipino
03:09.4
nang naghahanap ng ustisya
03:12.8
kasi yung Pilipinas
03:14.3
ay unwilling and unable
03:16.8
to prosecute yung mga masterminds.
03:20.0
So kaya tayo nag-file nung June 2017.
03:24.0
Pero technically,
03:25.0
isa yung buong communication yun,
03:27.8
kasi yung grupo din namin
03:30.0
yung nag-prepare
03:30.8
nung finial ni Atty. Jude Sabio.
03:34.3
So basically,
03:34.9
kayo na una, no?
03:36.0
Although, parang on paper,
03:38.2
naging pangalawa.
03:39.0
Natama ba?
03:40.2
Anyway, hindi naman yun
03:41.1
ang crux ng ating discussion ngayon, no?
03:43.7
May mga kabado yata, no?
03:45.2
Miski si Harry Roque
03:46.1
nagsasalitaan na
03:46.9
sinasabi niya nandito yung
03:48.1
ICC.
03:49.9
Sa pagkakaalam nyo po ba,
03:51.7
nagko-cooperate ba
03:52.8
ang Bambu Marcos administration
03:54.5
dito po sa ICC?
03:57.2
Okay.
03:57.8
Um, well,
04:00.1
yung mga ganyang
04:00.8
uusapin kasi talagang
04:02.6
highly confidential yan, ano?
04:04.8
So kailangan maintindihan natin yung ano
04:06.8
kasi
04:07.1
people's lives would be at stake
04:11.1
kung ikokomperma yan
04:13.3
na nandito sila
04:14.6
or kung wala sila.
04:16.3
So hindi makakapag-trabaho
04:19.0
na maayos yung ICC, no?
04:21.0
So siguro, maganda nito
04:22.8
is let's just
04:24.6
work on hypotheticals.
04:27.8
No?
04:28.8
Ang bottom line naman kasi dito
04:31.2
is
04:31.8
kung tapos na ba yung
04:34.7
investigasyon
04:35.5
o malapit na matapos, no?
04:37.6
Ako, ang
04:38.4
ang aking
04:40.1
ano bang uso ngayon?
04:42.9
Educated guess.
04:45.6
Ano?
04:47.7
Tapos na.
04:49.5
At least as far as
04:50.7
Mr. Duterte is concerned.
04:54.8
Tapos na yung investigation.
04:57.8
Tapos na yung
04:58.8
yung investigation sa kanya.
05:02.2
Yun lang ang
05:03.1
ang aking educated guess.
05:07.2
Tapos
05:07.7
yun na nga.
05:10.3
Ang susunod na ito
05:11.2
ay ang application for the warrant.
05:14.4
Pero magandang
05:15.4
pag-usapan muna natin, Christian,
05:17.3
is kasi alam nyo,
05:19.1
grabe yung disinformation
05:20.3
ng mga makaduterte.
05:23.8
Ito lang muna ang unahin natin.
05:26.8
Meron bang patayang
05:27.8
ayan noong mga panahon ni Duterte.
05:31.0
Hindi lang sa Davao,
05:32.1
kundi ito sa Pilipinas.
05:33.8
Tayo lahat, buhay tayo noon.
05:35.5
Saksing buhay tayo noon
05:36.8
noong mga patayang na yun.
05:38.3
Diba pinagmamalaki pa nila noon?
05:40.9
Diba?
05:41.8
Ano?
05:43.2
Pagka tinetreten ka,
05:44.9
sasabihin, adi ka siguro,
05:46.4
tokhangin na yan.
05:47.3
Parang ganon.
05:48.5
They were proud.
05:49.6
So everybody was aware.
05:51.3
Lalo na itong mga makaduterte na ito.
05:54.3
Alam nila,
05:54.9
pinagmamalaki nila na
05:56.2
accomplishment ni Duterte.
05:57.8
And ito yung pagkakamali nila Duterte.
06:03.3
Inadmit mismo ng PNP
06:05.8
ng official documents
06:08.3
na may pinatay sila
06:10.0
na mahigit 6,000 Pilipino
06:12.3
dahil nanlaban daw.
06:15.2
Okay?
06:15.7
Nanlaban.
06:17.3
Tapos,
06:19.8
itong noong 2018,
06:23.2
December,
06:24.1
if I'm not mistaken,
06:26.4
naglaba sila ng accomplishment.
06:27.8
Report nilabas nila
06:29.4
na 20,000
06:31.3
mahigit
06:33.1
yung napatay nila
06:34.4
as a result
06:35.7
nung war on drugs.
06:37.7
Ginamit yan ng
06:39.0
Supreme Court.
06:41.8
Sinabmit nila yan
06:42.7
nung sila ay
06:43.9
pinag-e-explain.
06:45.4
Sinabmit nila sa
06:46.5
official documents yan.
06:49.4
In fact,
06:50.0
pinablish nila yun
06:50.8
as accomplishment
06:51.5
20,000 mahigit.
06:53.6
So,
06:54.7
maliwanag na yan.
06:55.6
I think that's end of 2017.
06:57.8
So, ito nagpatayan.
07:00.8
Diba?
07:01.8
Dapat,
07:02.6
maliwanag sa atin muna yan.
07:04.6
Nahinto,
07:05.2
hindi ito
07:05.9
katang-isip lang
07:07.4
o parang ginagawa lang
07:09.0
ng mga kalaban sa politika.
07:10.5
Hindi.
07:11.4
Talagang nagpapatay siya.
07:13.1
Narinig natin mismo siya
07:14.6
sa bibig niya,
07:16.3
my order is shoot to kill.
07:18.0
I don't care about human rights.
07:20.7
Patayin niya.
07:21.5
Lahat yan.
07:22.1
So, lahat sinasabi niya.
07:23.3
Even as recent as
07:25.1
a few months ago,
07:26.3
diba?
07:26.5
May video siya.
07:27.8
About it.
07:28.9
So, maliwanag yun.
07:30.9
It was a policy
07:32.1
to kill
07:33.4
Filipinos
07:34.8
without due process.
07:37.4
Hindi rinag-test
07:38.6
yung mga yan.
07:39.5
Hindi sila
07:40.9
nag-undergo
07:41.8
ng kahit na anong proceedings
07:43.2
to
07:43.9
convict them
07:46.6
of anything.
07:47.8
Korso na,
07:48.3
korso na dahil.
07:49.4
So, yan yung
07:50.7
pinag-anohan natin muna.
07:52.8
Kailangan
07:53.1
maliwanag.
07:55.4
Wala tayong
07:56.1
argument doon.
07:57.3
Sa base,
07:57.8
yan.
07:58.5
Kung maga,
07:59.2
sorry ah,
08:00.7
kung maga maliwanag na may patayan,
08:02.5
may mga katawan,
08:03.4
may mga bangkay.
08:04.7
So, yun muna,
08:05.3
para ma-establish
08:06.0
kung mayroong krimen.
08:07.1
Okay.
08:07.5
Ano yung kasunod po yan?
08:09.2
So, widespread
08:10.0
and systematic to.
08:11.8
It was a policy
08:12.9
verbally,
08:15.0
publicly articulated
08:16.2
by Mr. Duterte
08:17.6
at in-execute
08:18.9
ng kanyang
08:19.4
Philippine National Police.
08:21.6
Yan ang mga elemento
08:22.9
ng crimes against humanity.
08:26.5
Ngayon,
08:27.2
itong ICP,
08:27.8
itong kaso
08:29.6
sa ICC,
08:30.6
hindi ito
08:31.7
parang
08:32.4
bakit nyo doon
08:33.7
kinasuhan dito?
08:34.9
Ba't ninyo dito kinasuhan?
08:36.4
Hindi.
08:37.1
Ang crimes against humanity,
08:38.6
hindi ito pwedeng
08:39.4
file lang
08:40.0
ng isang
08:40.5
tao.
08:41.6
Kunyari ako,
08:42.2
hindi ko ito pwedeng file lang
08:43.3
si Digong ng crimes against humanity.
08:45.4
Hindi,
08:45.8
kasi hindi ako personality.
08:47.7
Hindi ko magkakaroon,
08:48.8
hindi ko ma-establish
08:49.8
yung
08:50.2
widespread
08:51.0
and systematic
08:51.9
killings.
08:54.0
Only the state
08:55.1
can file
08:56.4
a case against
08:57.2
Mr. Duterte.
08:57.8
The state,
08:59.8
ano?
09:00.4
Ngayon,
09:00.7
pag tinatanong nyo,
09:01.6
bakit hindi nyo
09:02.3
kinakasuhan yung ano?
09:03.7
Tanongin nyo
09:04.4
si Secretary Remulla.
09:06.4
Siya yung DOJ.
09:07.4
Merong motto
09:08.1
propio.
09:09.6
Dapat siya yung
09:10.5
nagpa-file.
09:11.2
Kaso,
09:12.5
sa tagal-tagal na,
09:13.9
wala naman.
09:15.1
No?
09:15.8
Ngayon,
09:16.5
meron tayong batas.
09:18.1
Meron tayong batas
09:19.2
yung
09:19.4
Republic Act
09:21.2
9851
09:22.9
na ito yung
09:24.4
nagde-define
09:25.1
ng mga
09:25.6
iba't ibang
09:26.2
krimen like
09:26.8
crimes against humanity,
09:27.8
kung ano-ano man
09:30.3
na sinasabi dun
09:32.0
dun sa jurisdiction.
09:33.3
Ito nga yung
09:33.9
basis nung tweet ko
09:35.9
kahapon
09:36.4
na
09:37.1
yung Estado,
09:40.2
kagaya nito,
09:40.9
Marcos Administration,
09:42.0
bago na,
09:42.9
pwede nilang
09:43.7
kasi sinabi
09:44.4
may dispense.
09:45.8
Meaning, pwede.
09:46.9
Pwede na silang
09:47.8
hindi mag-imbestiga
09:48.9
o mag-prosecute
09:50.1
kung
09:50.9
meron nang
09:52.1
nag-iimbestiga
09:53.1
na
09:53.6
International Tribunal.
09:56.5
Tapos,
09:56.9
sinabi pa ron
09:57.7
na kung meron
09:58.7
na nag-iimbestiga,
09:59.8
pwedeng
10:00.4
isurrender na lang
10:01.8
ng Estado
10:03.2
ang mga
10:04.1
akusadong ito
10:05.1
dun sa
10:05.9
International Tribunal
10:07.2
na nag-iimbestiga.
10:09.0
So, maliwanag,
10:10.0
hindi po ito
10:10.9
unconstitutional,
10:12.4
hindi ito
10:13.0
bawal,
10:13.6
hindi ito
10:14.0
pagsusurrender
10:14.8
ng sovereignty.
10:16.4
Batas po
10:17.0
ng Pilipinas yan.
10:18.7
Naipasa ito
10:19.5
noong year
10:20.0
2009.
10:21.4
Okay.
10:22.3
Malinaw po yun,
10:23.0
legally.
10:23.6
Pero politically,
10:24.4
alam po natin
10:25.0
ang matindi po
10:25.6
implications niya.
10:26.7
Why would,
10:27.7
kung kaya naman
10:28.6
si President
10:29.2
Marcos Jr.,
10:30.7
why would you
10:31.5
cooperate
10:32.5
and surrender
10:33.6
si Duterte
10:34.6
sa ICC?
10:35.8
Ano yung magiging
10:36.2
impact ng politika
10:37.2
niya sa kanya?
10:38.6
Marami yun, ano?
10:39.8
Maraming
10:40.2
implications.
10:41.2
Yun yun yung
10:41.6
kailangan niyang
10:42.1
balabalansihin.
10:43.9
Ano ba,
10:44.9
magagalit ba
10:45.5
yung taong bayan?
10:46.9
Pero,
10:47.7
on the other hand,
10:49.2
pagka nag-issue
10:50.0
ng warrant
10:50.6
dyan,
10:51.7
tapos,
10:53.5
siya ay
10:53.9
nagko-cover pa,
10:54.9
tatamaan naman
10:55.6
yung kanyang
10:56.1
reputation
10:56.6
sa International
10:57.4
Tribunal.
10:57.7
Di ba?
10:60.0
Malay mo,
11:00.7
may maka-akibat
11:01.6
ng mga
11:02.1
trade
11:04.1
concessions,
11:06.5
kung ano man.
11:07.7
At,
11:08.7
bakit nga naman
11:09.6
din niya,
11:10.2
at the end of the day,
11:10.9
bakit nga naman niya
11:11.6
paproteksyonan itong
11:12.6
si Mr. Duterte
11:13.6
na nananawagan
11:15.0
ng auster?
11:17.0
Di ba?
11:17.4
Civil disobedience,
11:19.0
withdrawal of support,
11:20.2
coup d'etat.
11:21.2
Bakit ka
11:21.6
susuportahan
11:22.3
that very same
11:23.5
person
11:25.0
gusto siyang
11:27.0
patalsikin?
11:27.7
Di ba?
11:28.5
Babala-balansihin
11:29.6
ni
11:30.5
President Marcos
11:32.7
yan
11:32.9
at the proper time.
11:34.9
Kasi,
11:35.8
yung mga
11:36.5
ganyan,
11:37.1
political wins
11:37.9
na chief.
11:39.4
So,
11:40.2
kung
11:40.4
the political wins
11:41.7
are favorable
11:42.5
at the time
11:44.1
of the issuance
11:44.8
of the warrant,
11:46.1
to surrender him,
11:47.7
baka ganoon
11:48.2
na mangyari.
11:48.9
If not,
11:49.7
baka hindi,
11:50.7
hindi muna.
11:51.9
So, maraming
11:52.5
permutations.
11:54.7
Okay.
11:55.6
Ang claim ng iba,
11:56.4
including itong si
11:57.4
former human rights lawyer
11:59.1
turned
12:00.1
rabid Duterte
12:01.8
defender,
12:03.4
eh magkakagulo raw
12:04.4
pag nangyari yan.
12:05.6
Pag
12:05.9
ipinaaresto
12:07.1
ng Marcos administration
12:08.8
o nag-cooperate sila
12:10.1
in case maglabas
12:11.1
ng arrest warrant
12:11.9
against Duterte.
12:13.5
Do you agree?
12:14.3
Magkakagulo?
12:15.8
Yan yung kanilang
12:17.2
narrative, no?
12:19.0
Yan yung
12:19.5
kumbaga
12:20.7
drum beating, no?
12:23.2
O
12:23.5
nila parang
12:25.0
they're threatening
12:26.1
kaso
12:26.4
kaso
12:27.2
personally
12:28.0
I believe it's a bluff.
12:29.9
No?
12:30.5
I don't think
12:31.5
people will
12:32.5
go out in the streets
12:34.2
para
12:34.6
mag
12:35.5
lulupasay
12:37.7
para kay
12:38.1
Mr. Duterte.
12:39.5
Hindi, kasi
12:40.0
at the end of the day
12:41.0
anong ginawa nitong
12:42.0
mama nito
12:42.6
sa Pilipinas?
12:45.3
Umasenso ba
12:46.1
kayo
12:46.7
dito sa
12:48.1
anim na taon
12:48.8
ni Mr. Duterte?
12:50.3
O mas humirap
12:51.0
yung buhay?
12:52.2
Tatandaan nila
12:53.0
nung panahon
12:53.5
ng pandemic
12:54.2
kung paano
12:54.9
pinahirapan
12:56.3
paano
12:57.0
minishandle
12:57.8
ni Duterte
12:58.4
yung ating
12:59.5
ekonomiya
13:00.3
at ganong
13:01.9
hirap
13:02.3
ng buhay
13:02.7
noon?
13:03.4
Yun ang binigay.
13:04.4
Itong
13:04.7
ito na lang
13:05.7
jeepney modernization
13:06.8
na ito
13:07.4
na pinoproblema
13:09.1
ng mga jeepney
13:09.7
drivers.
13:10.2
Kaninong
13:10.6
brainchild yan?
13:12.0
Kay Duterte yan.
13:13.0
Bakit?
13:13.6
Kasi
13:13.7
ang laki ng kita eh.
13:15.7
Nang
13:16.1
yung contact nila
13:17.8
ng mga
13:18.3
contractors
13:19.2
1 million
13:20.1
per unit
13:20.7
ng jeep
13:21.6
ang kikitain nila.
13:22.7
Talagang
13:23.4
nagkukumahod sila.
13:25.4
Yan yung mga
13:25.8
sample dyan.
13:26.6
Ilan pa'y
13:27.0
pinapatay.
13:28.1
Di ba?
13:28.8
So,
13:29.5
bakit nila ngayon
13:30.4
gagawin?
13:31.1
Alam nyo,
13:31.5
karamihan ng mga
13:32.3
tinitignan namin,
13:33.6
karamihan ng mga
13:34.6
mga trolls
13:36.0
na nagde-defend
13:37.6
kay Duterte,
13:39.8
mga nasa
13:40.4
abroad,
13:41.0
yung mga hindi
13:41.9
alam
13:43.1
yung tunay na
13:44.2
sitwasyon dito
13:45.0
or yung mga
13:46.1
nasa Dabao.
13:47.8
Yung mga
13:48.0
taga-Dabao.
13:49.1
So,
13:49.8
ganon yung
13:50.4
profile nung
13:51.6
mga
13:51.9
may ingay
13:53.2
ngayon
13:53.5
sa
13:53.9
social media.
13:56.4
But by and large,
13:57.6
the Filipino
13:58.1
has moved on.
14:00.0
And in fact,
14:00.8
we've been doing
14:01.8
surveys
14:02.4
the past
14:03.1
few quarters
14:04.1
about this very
14:05.5
question
14:06.0
tungkol sa
14:07.4
ICC.
14:08.9
So,
14:09.2
kung anong
14:09.6
opinion nila?
14:10.2
Anong panong
14:10.7
specifically?
14:12.1
Na kung sakaling
14:12.8
ipa-aresto,
14:14.2
magagahit sila?
14:15.9
Parang gano'n?
14:17.4
Oo.
14:18.4
Ang dito eh.
14:20.4
So,
14:23.1
ano ang
14:24.0
pananaw mo
14:24.7
sa nanalapit
14:25.4
na
14:26.0
pag-aresto
14:27.3
na International
14:28.4
Criminal Court
14:29.3
or ICC
14:30.1
kay dating
14:30.9
Pangulong
14:31.5
Duterte?
14:32.9
No?
14:33.6
So,
14:34.7
it's not even
14:36.8
ano eh,
14:38.7
35%
14:40.5
ang
14:40.9
hindi sangayon eh,
14:42.5
no?
14:43.2
Ang dami
14:43.7
nung walang
14:44.2
opinion.
14:45.1
More than majority.
14:46.0
And this was last
14:46.8
August.
14:47.9
So,
14:48.4
we were tracking
14:49.5
and in fact,
14:50.5
by
14:50.8
next week,
14:54.1
magra-run
14:54.6
ulit kami
14:55.1
about it.
14:56.0
Makikita namin.
14:57.7
So,
14:57.9
pag bumaba
14:58.5
ng bumaba yan,
14:59.4
makikita doon.
15:00.9
Kung mga
15:01.2
nasa
15:02.2
10-15% lang
15:03.9
ang bisang ayon,
15:05.9
eh wala na.
15:06.9
Tapos na
15:07.2
unboxing.
15:08.5
So, mukhang
15:09.1
ano,
15:09.5
mukhang
15:09.9
made up ba yan
15:12.1
or artificial
15:12.8
or even
15:13.9
exaggerated
15:14.6
yung mga
15:15.2
pinapalutang na
15:16.8
subukan niya
15:17.5
ipa-aresto
15:18.0
si Duterte
15:19.3
magkakagulo?
15:21.2
I believe so,
15:22.4
no?
15:22.6
I believe
15:23.1
itong mga
15:23.8
mga trolls
15:25.4
na mga
15:25.8
may inga,
15:26.5
yung mga supporters
15:27.2
niya,
15:28.1
eh nagsasuffer
15:28.9
doon sa
15:29.2
echo chamber
15:29.9
syndrome
15:30.8
na ganun
15:31.8
na nangyari
15:32.4
nung panahon
15:33.9
ni Duterte
15:34.6
doon naman
15:35.0
sa minority
15:35.7
na
15:36.6
pag kayo-kayo
15:38.1
yung nagkakarinigan,
15:39.2
akala nyo
15:39.7
ang dami na
15:40.4
pero
15:41.4
yun pala
15:42.6
ilan lang
15:44.1
kayo, no?
15:44.9
Kaya subukan nilang
15:45.6
magpatawag
15:46.3
ng rally
15:47.6
doon sa
15:47.9
EDSA.
15:49.0
Malabo.
15:49.7
Siguro
15:50.0
aalok-alok yan.
15:51.9
Ito palang
15:52.7
nabanggit nyo, no?
15:53.6
Although this is
15:54.4
pretty obvious naman,
15:55.4
di ba?
15:55.5
Yung panamanggana
15:55.8
ng Civil Disobedience
15:57.4
tapos
15:58.5
si former
15:59.5
President Duterte
16:00.5
bumabanat
16:01.4
kay BBM
16:02.9
tapos si Sarah Duterte,
16:04.4
di ba?
16:04.7
Publicly
16:05.2
sinalungat
16:06.2
si BBM
16:07.4
doon sa kanyang
16:08.3
planong
16:09.7
pagpa-resume
16:11.0
ng official
16:11.8
ng ano, no?
16:12.9
Peace Talks
16:13.6
with the NDFP.
16:14.7
Di ba?
16:14.8
Sabi niya,
16:15.3
that's an agreement
16:16.0
with the devil.
16:17.2
Itong ma-action na yan,
16:18.1
ano bang basa nyo dyan?
16:19.0
Konektado ba yan
16:19.8
doon sa
16:20.4
fear nila
16:21.3
na baka nga
16:22.2
nagko-cooperate na si BBM
16:23.8
at ipa-aresto
16:24.9
yung
16:25.5
Rodrigo Duterte?
16:29.4
Ano na yan?
16:31.1
Actually,
16:32.8
afterthought na lang yan.
16:34.1
But the attacks,
16:36.0
the undermining
16:37.1
of the
16:37.8
Marcos administration
16:38.9
came much earlier.
16:41.8
In fact,
16:42.2
napag-usapan natin yan
16:43.3
dito sa
16:43.9
programa mo,
16:45.1
Christian,
16:46.0
na
16:46.4
nagsimula ito
16:47.9
nung
16:48.7
nahuli yung
16:50.1
droga,
16:51.6
yung 990 kilos
16:53.1
na na-involve
16:53.9
yung mga ilang
16:54.4
mga police generals
16:55.3
and colonels
16:56.0
na part nung
16:57.3
dabaw group
16:58.1
ni Duterte.
16:59.8
Yun yung criminal
17:01.1
enterprise niya.
17:02.3
Nung siya ay nakapuesto,
17:04.4
protektado yun lahat.
17:06.1
Pero nung nawala na siya,
17:07.8
akala nila,
17:08.9
tuloy-tuloy lang,
17:10.1
hinuli sila.
17:12.6
So,
17:13.1
na-expose ngayon,
17:14.2
nagkakasuhan.
17:15.4
Itong mga generalist
17:16.3
na ito ngayon,
17:16.9
sumasaklolo kay Duterte
17:18.3
kasi
17:18.6
pagka hindi niya ito
17:19.9
naproteksyonan,
17:21.6
legally,
17:22.4
ituturo siya noon
17:23.4
na sila may ari.
17:24.5
No?
17:25.3
So,
17:25.9
doon pa lang.
17:26.9
Then, yung kay Bantag
17:28.0
nangyari.
17:28.9
They were expecting
17:30.2
na si Mr. Bantag
17:31.9
would be a sacred cow
17:33.0
kasi nung panahon ni Duterte,
17:34.9
kahit na anong
17:35.6
gawing kalukuhan yan,
17:37.0
no?
17:37.9
Kung sino-sinong
17:39.1
papapatay nila,
17:40.0
isa yung itatap nila.
17:41.9
Pero hindi,
17:42.4
nawalan, no?
17:43.5
Then, si Mr. Tevez,
17:44.9
you know,
17:45.3
Congressman Tevez,
17:46.8
ano yan?
17:47.7
Isa sa distributor
17:48.6
ni Duterte yan,
17:50.2
ang droga nila.
17:51.9
Protektado yan.
17:53.3
Pero,
17:53.5
isa-isang nawawala.
17:55.3
Inuhuli
17:55.9
ng Marcos administration.
17:58.8
Kaya ngayon,
17:59.5
kailangan niya lang
18:00.3
mag-assert.
18:01.2
So, they made a move
18:02.5
as early as,
18:04.1
ano, no?
18:04.8
Yung first na
18:06.0
nabalitaan namin na
18:07.6
DSTAB
18:08.1
was January
18:09.1
of last year.
18:11.5
Ito yung
18:12.1
na alam nyo
18:13.5
yung nagkaroon ng
18:14.2
mass resignation
18:15.0
sa DND.
18:17.2
Dahil, ano,
18:18.4
yung tungkol doon
18:19.2
sa class
18:19.8
88 and 89
18:21.9
na
18:22.7
nire-leave
18:25.0
ulit sa DND.
18:25.3
Si General Bacaro.
18:26.7
So, sinakyan yun
18:28.0
ng mga
18:28.6
mga
18:29.7
retirees
18:31.1
na
18:31.7
Duterte allies
18:33.6
yung issue na yun
18:35.9
hoping
18:36.6
makakuha sila.
18:38.3
Then, eventually,
18:39.6
itong
18:40.0
tambalus-loss
18:41.3
issue nung May,
18:42.9
they attempted
18:43.5
to
18:44.1
to impeach
18:45.5
si
18:46.3
President Marcos.
18:48.4
So, ganun pa yun.
18:49.5
Wala pa yun
18:50.2
no ICC.
18:51.9
Wala pang
18:52.5
ganun na issue.
18:53.6
Pero, they have been
18:54.6
trying to
18:55.3
grab power
18:58.0
from
18:59.1
President Marcos.
19:00.8
Pero, ngayon,
19:01.5
it's imperative
19:02.4
kasi
19:02.7
existential na sa kanila
19:05.0
survival na to.
19:06.3
But, the thing is
19:07.2
they tried
19:08.0
a few times
19:09.5
much earlier.
19:12.0
Pero, yung ganyan
19:13.4
yung binabanggit nyo na
19:14.4
undermining
19:16.4
efforts to undermine
19:17.4
the Marcos administration.
19:19.4
Hanggang ngayon,
19:19.7
di pa rin po namamatay
19:20.7
yung ugong
19:21.6
ng destabilization.
19:23.4
Tapos, inuugnay nga yun
19:24.8
ng iba.
19:25.1
Doon sa
19:25.7
public statement
19:27.3
ng ilang
19:27.8
retired
19:28.6
police
19:29.6
and
19:29.9
military officials.
19:31.7
Mga PMA-ers.
19:33.3
Magkakadikit po ba yan?
19:34.4
Or,
19:35.1
hindi naman necessarily?
19:37.1
Definitely,
19:37.9
magkakadikit yan,
19:38.9
Christian.
19:39.4
These things do not happen
19:40.7
at random.
19:42.4
Part yan ang
19:43.4
communications plan.
19:45.1
Yung destabilization
19:46.3
plot nila.
19:47.9
Ibat-ibang components.
19:49.5
Pag-agitate nila.
19:51.0
Meron din silang
19:51.6
pag-agitate sa
19:52.6
taong bayan.
19:53.8
Di ba?
19:54.0
Meron din silang
19:55.1
pag-agitate sa
19:55.9
military sector.
19:57.5
So,
19:58.2
lahat yan.
20:00.8
Magkakadikit yan.
20:02.3
Hindi yan
20:02.9
parang
20:03.9
ano lang.
20:04.8
Parang kabuti lang
20:06.1
na sumulpot.
20:07.3
These are
20:08.4
connected
20:09.2
definitely
20:10.1
sa isang
20:11.3
destabilization
20:12.4
plot
20:12.9
na they hope
20:14.3
would lead
20:15.5
to an
20:16.0
ouster
20:16.4
plot.
20:18.8
Eh, yung
20:19.5
patuloy na
20:21.0
pag-insist
20:21.8
ng ilang grupo
20:22.5
na
20:23.6
na
20:24.0
na
20:25.1
LANDAYA
20:25.6
si BBM.
20:27.1
Di ba?
20:27.3
Kaya na-question nila.
20:28.8
Yung resulta,
20:30.0
kahit landslide,
20:31.1
31 million.
20:32.5
Mukha bang
20:33.2
nagagamit yan
20:34.1
or even
20:34.5
konektado dito sa
20:35.4
communications plan
20:36.5
na binabanggit nyo?
20:38.0
Nung una,
20:39.5
hindi,
20:40.0
hindi konektado.
20:41.0
Nagsimula yan
20:41.7
dun sa mga
20:42.4
mga
20:43.4
pinks na
20:44.4
talagang
20:45.5
ano, no?
20:47.1
Hindi matanggap
20:48.4
o nahirapan
20:49.0
tanggapin yung
20:50.0
pagkatalo
20:51.2
na
20:52.0
naghanap sila
20:53.4
ng
20:53.6
ng
20:54.8
ah,
20:55.1
butas
20:56.4
para masabi
20:57.4
na
20:57.7
ano, no?
20:59.0
Na
20:59.2
nadaya nga.
21:00.8
Pero ito yan,
21:01.9
in-examine niya
21:02.7
ng mga
21:03.2
ng team
21:04.4
ni Vice President
21:05.3
Lenny Rubredo
21:06.4
in ano yan?
21:08.5
Pinag-aralan na gusto.
21:10.0
Kami,
21:10.4
yung aming grupo
21:11.2
before,
21:12.5
during,
21:12.9
and after
21:13.4
the elections
21:14.2
maliwanag eh.
21:16.7
Ah,
21:17.1
ramdam namin
21:17.9
kampanya pa lang
21:18.8
na talagang
21:19.9
ano eh,
21:20.5
ah,
21:21.8
iba yung
21:22.3
iba yung pulso
21:23.8
ng taong bayan.
21:25.1
Ngayon,
21:26.2
ah,
21:26.6
so nag-match.
21:27.6
Ngayon,
21:27.9
itong sinasabi
21:28.6
nung TN3
21:29.6
yun na
21:30.0
meron daw
21:30.8
isang IP address,
21:32.6
maaring totoo yan.
21:33.8
Wala namang problema
21:34.6
yun.
21:35.2
Pero what
21:35.8
is
21:36.5
kung yung bang
21:38.2
pumasok na
21:39.4
datos
21:39.9
from the
21:41.6
VCMs
21:42.3
eh,
21:42.9
iba
21:43.1
dun sa lumabas
21:44.2
na dumaan
21:44.8
dun sa single
21:45.5
IP address.
21:46.8
Kung parehas naman,
21:47.8
then,
21:49.0
ah,
21:49.4
wala naman pala tayong
21:50.5
pinag-uusapan.
21:51.5
Ang sinasabi lang nila,
21:53.0
isang dumaan.
21:54.1
Pero,
21:54.3
they cannot show.
21:55.7
In fact,
21:56.1
nakausap ko yung ilan dyan.
21:58.3
Walang,
21:58.7
walang
22:00.0
testigo,
22:01.1
walang
22:01.5
anything
22:02.4
hard that we can hold on to.
22:04.3
Kasi sabi ko kung
22:05.2
totoo yan,
22:06.1
eh di
22:06.3
tayo pa mauuunang
22:07.8
titindig para dyan.
22:09.4
So anyway,
22:10.2
di wala na.
22:11.0
Early on,
22:11.8
we have decided,
22:12.6
pati si
22:13.0
Vice President Lenny,
22:15.5
ano na yan eh,
22:16.4
tinundo ka na yan.
22:18.4
Kaso,
22:18.9
after nun,
22:20.2
kinargahan na nung
22:21.2
Duterte Group
22:22.2
para mahikayat
22:23.3
yung
22:24.0
pink,
22:24.7
no?
22:25.3
Yung mga unsuspecting
22:26.4
na pink,
22:27.0
di,
22:27.5
sama kayo dun.
22:28.3
Kasi nga naman,
22:29.6
reason yun,
22:30.9
ano,
22:31.2
for,
22:32.3
parang ma-install
22:33.8
nyo si
22:34.3
DP Lenny.
22:35.3
Pero,
22:35.8
di ba,
22:36.8
mahirap naman yata yun.
22:39.1
Kung talagang
22:39.5
naniniwala tayo
22:40.3
sa demokrasya,
22:41.2
kailangan maniniwa,
22:42.3
marunong din tayo
22:43.1
tumanggap
22:43.8
ng talo.
22:45.8
No?
22:46.6
Let's just do better
22:47.8
sa next elections
22:48.8
kasi gano'n eh.
22:50.5
Gano'n yung
22:51.1
naging kapalaran.
22:53.2
Nung nanalo si
22:53.9
Lenny,
22:54.0
i-ano natin,
22:56.1
pinanindigan natin,
22:58.2
same system yun,
22:59.8
smartmatic.
23:00.8
Pero,
23:01.3
nung natalo na ngayon
23:02.3
si Lenny
23:02.7
noong 2022,
23:03.8
parang,
23:04.5
oh,
23:04.8
smartmatic ang problema.
23:06.3
Teka muna,
23:06.9
di ba?
23:07.8
Kailangan,
23:08.5
ano tayo?
23:09.9
Let's stand on principles.
23:12.1
Tama naman.
23:12.9
Simple lang talaga yun eh.
23:13.9
Kung yung pinasok na
23:14.7
dato sa BCM,
23:15.7
yun ba yung lumbas?
23:17.1
Yun ba yung nabilang?
23:17.8
Madali na ma-e-check,
23:18.6
no?
23:18.7
And so far,
23:19.3
I don't think there's
23:20.2
evidence
23:21.2
pointing to the contrary.
23:22.8
Kung meron,
23:23.7
ilabas,
23:24.0
talang,
23:24.4
eventually, no?
23:25.4
Ito nga pala po,
23:26.2
no?
23:26.6
Sige,
23:27.1
go ahead, sir.
23:27.7
Go ahead.
23:28.2
Nag-random audit na kami dyan.
23:30.9
Yung species,
23:31.8
mga different BCMs
23:33.3
all over the country,
23:35.7
kinumpir namin doon
23:36.6
sa national database
23:37.7
kung parehas yung pumasok.
23:39.0
Parehas eh.
23:40.5
Yun po yun.
23:42.2
Okay.
23:42.9
Okay.
23:43.6
Puntahan naman po natin
23:44.4
yung mga witnesses,
23:45.3
no?
23:45.4
Sabi nyo kasi,
23:46.4
basically,
23:47.4
yung educated guest nyo,
23:48.6
no?
23:49.2
Tapos na yung investigation
23:50.2
kay Duterte.
23:51.3
Pero,
23:51.5
how about the witnesses?
23:53.5
Protectado,
23:54.0
sila.
23:54.5
Eh,
23:54.6
baka naman
23:55.1
mapatay
23:56.4
o biglang maglaho
23:57.2
yung iba.
23:58.6
Okay.
23:59.3
Yung ibang witnesses
24:00.2
nakapagbigay na ng testimonya.
24:02.4
Kasi,
24:02.7
ito nga,
24:03.1
no?
24:03.9
Kailangan maintindihan
24:05.2
ng mga kababayan natin.
24:06.9
Iba yung criminal justice system
24:08.8
dahil sa Pilipinas.
24:11.0
Iba yung sistema
24:11.9
ng ICC.
24:12.9
Meron silang sistema doon
24:14.6
na precisely
24:15.6
because of that
24:16.7
constant threat
24:17.9
na pwedeng mapatay
24:19.7
o mamatay
24:20.7
yung testigo.
24:22.1
Meron silang sistema
24:23.1
na
24:24.0
i-re-record na yung
24:26.2
testimonya
24:27.3
nung
24:28.0
testigo
24:29.0
na ano to,
24:30.8
duly represented
24:31.9
yung mga akusado,
24:33.6
may court-appointed,
24:34.8
ano,
24:35.8
ICC-appointed
24:36.8
lawyer
24:37.6
for the accused.
24:39.5
Doon ngayon
24:40.5
para makross-examine
24:41.5
sila.
24:42.6
Para yung
24:43.3
na-record na yun,
24:44.6
yung oral deposition
24:45.5
na yun,
24:46.8
i-enter na lang yun
24:47.8
sa records
24:48.4
pag nagsimulaan
24:49.5
yung trial.
24:50.8
So,
24:51.1
yun ang
24:51.8
ano,
24:53.5
kaya,
24:54.0
kahit na
24:54.4
huntingin nila,
24:56.8
mapatay nila yung mga testigo
24:58.2
tapos na magbigay
24:59.5
ng testimonya,
25:01.1
wala na rin
25:01.6
effect yun.
25:03.7
Kasi,
25:04.3
na-importante,
25:05.0
no?
25:06.0
Example,
25:06.6
from your end,
25:07.7
doon sa communication
25:08.5
na finial nyo,
25:09.3
secured ba yung mga witnesses?
25:11.2
Luwari,
25:11.6
si Nalaskanya,
25:12.5
si Namatobato?
25:14.9
Ang ating
25:15.9
educated guests
25:17.7
ay secure naman sila
25:19.5
so far.
25:20.8
No?
25:21.2
Secure naman sila
25:22.0
so far,
25:22.8
but sabi ko nga,
25:24.0
hindi naman nagko-kumpiyansa
25:25.2
siguro sila.
25:26.6
Baka,
25:27.6
binabantayan din naman nila
25:28.8
yung kanilang
25:29.6
sarili
25:31.5
to make sure
25:32.2
hindi sila ma,
25:32.9
ano,
25:33.6
mahaboy
25:34.1
o ma-hunting
25:34.9
netong grupo nila,
25:36.0
Duterte.
25:37.2
Ito, sir,
25:37.8
speaking of educated guests,
25:39.3
no?
25:40.2
Meron ba nga, no?
25:41.2
Kung maga,
25:41.6
nagko-confirm ba sa inyo
25:43.2
itong si BBM?
25:44.7
Kasi kayo yung nag-file
25:45.4
ng case, eh.
25:46.4
Yung communication.
25:47.5
Meron ba kayo
25:48.1
linya ng communication
25:48.9
man lang?
25:52.7
Ano yan?
25:53.6
Kung maga,
25:54.0
unang-una
25:56.4
nagkasama naman kami,
25:58.1
no?
25:58.3
Sa Senado ni
25:59.0
President Bongbong Marcos.
26:00.7
So, wala namang
26:01.6
any
26:02.5
deep animosity
26:04.3
dyan.
26:04.8
So, kung
26:05.1
may mga ugnayan,
26:07.0
ah,
26:08.5
yun,
26:08.9
siguro.
26:10.6
Ah,
26:11.4
paano ba yan?
26:13.0
Hindi na lang muna.
26:13.6
May mga siguro
26:13.7
ang ugnayan,
26:14.4
here and there.
26:16.3
Okay.
26:17.3
Kaya nga sabi ko,
26:18.0
educated guests, eh.
26:19.4
Ito pala,
26:20.0
may nagpapatanong, no?
26:20.9
Meron kasing salbahing
26:21.9
nagpapatanong, eh.
26:23.0
Kung sakali
26:24.2
raw operan kayo
26:25.0
ng position under BBM,
26:26.5
would you accept it?
26:28.7
Okay.
26:29.2
Ang,
26:29.5
ang
26:30.5
kong kasi natin
26:31.6
is, ah,
26:32.4
meron na kaming
26:32.9
trajectory dito sa
26:34.2
party list, no?
26:36.0
Ah,
26:36.5
yung party list namin,
26:37.7
binubuhay namin,
26:38.5
magdalo party list.
26:40.0
Tapos, ah,
26:41.2
ako personally,
26:42.1
I intend to,
26:43.2
to run
26:44.5
sa
26:45.1
local elections,
26:46.9
no?
26:47.1
Dito sa Kalokan
26:48.0
as mayor.
26:49.2
So, ganun yung
26:49.9
trajectory
26:50.5
for the moment.
26:51.5
And,
26:52.0
and,
26:53.0
since ilang
26:54.2
months na lang naman,
26:55.3
magpa-filing na.
26:56.5
So,
26:57.5
ah,
26:58.0
yun yung trajectory.
26:59.7
But,
27:00.3
ah,
27:01.7
we,
27:02.2
we will not,
27:03.1
ano,
27:03.4
kumbaga,
27:04.4
ah,
27:05.1
hindi tayo magsasalita
27:06.2
ng tapos,
27:06.8
titignan natin.
27:07.6
Depende yun
27:08.3
kung ano ba ang
27:09.1
magiging mandato,
27:11.1
di ba?
27:11.8
Kung,
27:12.7
let's say,
27:13.0
anti-corruption yan,
27:14.7
or,
27:15.1
ah,
27:16.2
para
27:16.5
mamuno dito,
27:18.6
or, ah,
27:20.0
pamunahan,
27:20.9
ah,
27:21.4
pangunahan yung,
27:23.0
pangko-coordinate
27:24.0
dito sa ICC,
27:25.0
then why not?
27:25.8
Di ba?
27:26.3
Eh,
27:26.8
yun na yun.
27:28.1
But,
27:28.5
willing to help.
27:30.2
Willing to help.
27:31.5
Oo.
27:31.8
But,
27:32.1
I think even without
27:33.5
any formal
27:34.4
titles,
27:35.9
eh,
27:37.4
gagawin pa rin natin
27:38.3
kung ano yung mga kabuti
27:39.1
para sa bansa.
27:40.4
Okay.
27:40.9
So,
27:41.1
yung nga pala,
27:41.5
nabanggit yun sa Kalokan,
27:42.7
no?
27:42.8
Decided na kayo
27:43.5
tumakbo for mayor.
27:44.4
Medyo mabigit
27:45.0
yata ang labanan
27:45.6
pag local, no?
27:46.8
Tapos,
27:47.1
yata,
27:47.4
mahaba ang PC
27:48.1
dyan, eh.
27:48.6
Di ba?
27:50.0
Um,
27:50.7
well,
27:50.9
meron naman tayo
27:52.3
mga samples
27:53.6
ng hindi ganyan
27:55.4
yung naging sitwasyon.
27:56.3
Let's say,
27:56.6
sa Pasig,
27:57.4
di ba?
27:58.1
Hindi naman nagbuhos
27:59.1
ng pera si
28:00.5
Vico Soto,
28:01.6
pero yung kalaban niya,
28:03.0
talagang
28:03.6
daang-daang million
28:05.0
yung binuhos,
28:05.7
pero nanalo pa rin.
28:06.7
I think dito sa Metro Mangila,
28:08.6
medyo,
28:10.0
ano,
28:10.6
ah,
28:11.2
may mga,
28:12.4
ah,
28:14.2
may mga factors
28:15.0
that will
28:15.7
level the playing field.
28:18.6
Hmm.
28:19.1
Okay.
28:19.7
Ano yan?
28:20.2
Pag-usapan natin
28:20.9
in a separate episode, sir,
28:22.5
ah,
28:22.7
yung pag-pagsabak nyo
28:24.4
sa local politics
28:25.3
kasi ibang-iba yan, eh.
28:26.2
Di ba?
28:26.6
Pag-senatoral
28:27.6
tsaka local.
28:28.7
Anyway, ito.
28:30.1
Ano bang basa nyo rito
28:31.0
sa mga pronouncements
28:32.1
sila Harry Roque,
28:33.5
nila Duterte,
28:34.5
di ba?
28:34.7
Medyo matagal na sila maingay.
28:35.9
Although,
28:36.2
ito sa Harry Roque,
28:37.4
lately,
28:38.1
mas, ano siya,
28:38.9
pumuputak,
28:40.2
di ba,
28:40.4
against Marcos
28:41.4
and in defense of
28:42.4
Rodrigo Duterte,
28:44.2
iski ginagawa nilang
28:45.1
konting disimulado,
28:46.7
alam mo naman na
28:47.3
meron silang tinatarget,
28:48.4
eh, no?
28:48.6
And that is
28:49.5
BBM.
28:51.5
Anong basa nyo dyan
28:52.2
sa mga ganyang actuations?
28:53.6
Ano ba yan?
28:53.9
Indication ba yan
28:54.8
na mukhang kabado
28:56.0
ito mga ito sa ICC?
28:58.9
Ah,
28:59.5
definitely, no?
29:00.6
Ah,
29:01.4
nakikita nyo
29:02.2
yung,
29:03.4
ano na, eh.
29:04.4
Ah,
29:05.2
nararamdaman mo yung
29:06.3
nervyos at,
29:07.4
ano, no?
29:08.6
Ah,
29:09.1
nila dun sa
29:09.8
mga pangyari.
29:11.4
Pero, again,
29:12.2
part yan ng
29:12.7
communications plan nila.
29:14.7
While they may be
29:15.6
defending
29:16.3
si Duterte,
29:17.9
pero naga,
29:18.5
ano,
29:18.6
ano sila ng
29:19.2
sympathy,
29:21.0
di ba?
29:21.6
Kinakuha nila na parang
29:22.8
aping-api si
29:23.7
Duterte na
29:24.9
ikukulong
29:26.0
sa
29:26.3
ng banyaga,
29:27.8
ganito.
29:29.2
Kaya nga,
29:29.7
kailangan ko ibalik.
29:30.6
Teka muna, eh.
29:31.3
That same
29:32.0
person that
29:33.9
you are defending
29:35.4
is a monster,
29:36.7
kapo.
29:38.0
Libo-libo
29:38.7
pinapatay niya.
29:39.5
Naalala nyo yan
29:40.5
kung paano siya
29:41.4
mag-speech nun.
29:42.8
Mumurahin niya
29:43.5
kung sino-sino.
29:45.2
Tapos ngayon,
29:46.0
parang paawa,
29:46.9
effect.
29:47.5
Hindi,
29:47.7
I will keep
29:48.5
on
29:48.9
reminding
29:50.9
the public
29:51.9
of
29:52.7
what kind of
29:53.8
monster Mr. Duterte is
29:55.4
para hindi nila
29:56.5
kakawaan yan.
29:57.7
Di ba?
29:58.0
Kasi walang awa
29:58.9
sa inyo yan.
30:00.5
Kahit yung mga
30:01.4
pondo para sa
30:02.3
pandemic nun,
30:03.4
pinagkakitaan nila,
30:04.5
binulsa nila yun.
30:06.1
No?
30:06.5
So, yung ganun,
30:07.5
it's a battle of
30:08.5
narratives, eh.
30:09.4
At this point,
30:10.4
sila ngayon,
30:11.1
gusto nilang
30:11.6
i-draw out
30:12.4
yung sympathy,
30:13.5
ina-agitate nila
30:14.4
iba't-ibang ano,
30:15.9
ina-atake nila
30:17.1
yung administrations,
30:18.5
kumaga,
30:19.6
ganun, eh.
30:20.4
They're hoping
30:21.5
na makuha nila
30:23.5
yung simpatsya
30:24.6
ng taong bayan.
30:25.7
But,
30:26.1
the difference
30:26.8
between now
30:28.1
at nung ginagawa nila
30:30.2
noon,
30:30.7
nung nakapuesto sila,
30:32.7
ay kontrolado nila
30:33.7
yung buong
30:34.2
propaganda machinery.
30:36.6
Noon,
30:37.1
talagang
30:37.5
mainstream media,
30:39.1
social media,
30:40.0
talagang
30:40.4
buong-buo.
30:41.9
Kaya ang hirap namin
30:42.9
makapag-penetrate,
30:45.5
no,
30:45.7
sa taong bayan.
30:46.9
Ngayon,
30:47.9
wala na.
30:49.1
SMNI na lang
30:50.1
yung ano nilang,
30:50.8
eh, ano pa,
30:51.7
alanganin pa.
30:53.0
Oo, ano,
30:53.6
hinahabol pa,
30:54.4
pinasuspend pa.
30:56.0
O nga,
30:56.3
nabina naging
30:56.7
press freedom issue
30:57.6
yun sa SMNI,
30:58.4
eh, alam naman na
30:59.0
napaka-partisan
31:00.7
in favor of Duterte
31:01.6
niyan, eh, no?
31:02.6
Eto, si ano ba,
31:03.3
si Senator Bato,
31:04.7
kinakakitaan nyo ba
31:05.6
ng ano,
31:06.1
ng kaba?
31:08.9
Eh,
31:10.0
kumbaga,
31:11.1
palagay ko,
31:12.0
ramdam na ramdam
31:13.3
naman na ano,
31:14.0
hindi niya naman
31:14.4
nakayang maitago.
31:15.9
Ang problema kasi
31:16.7
dito sa mga ito,
31:18.5
naalala ko kasi
31:20.1
how they look
31:21.6
nung panahon nila, eh,
31:23.6
kung gaano kasi siga, eh.
31:25.9
Di ba naalala mo yan,
31:26.9
Christian?
31:27.4
Di ba yung kasi siga
31:28.7
na parang akala mo
31:29.8
mga manok lang
31:31.1
yung pinapatay, eh.
31:32.5
Di ba?
31:33.0
May mga sunugin nyo yan,
31:34.5
ganito,
31:35.2
ano yan,
31:36.0
pag nag,
31:37.1
kahit hindi lumalaban,
31:38.8
palabanin nyo.
31:39.7
Parang,
31:40.2
ganun, eh.
31:40.8
Bigyan mo ng barel.
31:41.5
Di ba sabi,
31:41.9
bigyan mo ng barel.
31:42.9
Mga ganun,
31:43.8
mga eksena.
31:45.6
Tapos ngayon,
31:46.9
nanginginig kayo sa takot,
31:48.5
di ba?
31:48.9
Hindi ba kayo,
31:50.7
yun na lang,
31:51.2
basic, eh.
31:52.2
Kung pinalaki itong mga ito
31:53.3
ng maayos,
31:54.6
dapat sinabi nila
31:55.5
kay Duterte,
31:56.8
Mr. President,
31:59.0
mali yan.
32:00.6
Kung gusto talaga natin
32:01.6
tanggalin yung droga,
32:03.6
iba ang paraan.
32:04.8
Di ba?
32:05.6
Huliin natin
32:06.5
yung mga drug lord.
32:07.7
Kaso yung mga drug lord,
32:09.1
kaibigan ni Duterte.
32:11.4
Di ba?
32:12.0
So untouchable.
32:13.0
Kaya nga,
32:14.0
si Asher do tuloy
32:14.9
yung pinahuli.
32:16.7
Kasi,
32:17.9
nag,
32:18.5
lakas loob siya na
32:19.7
nahabulin yung mga drug lord
32:22.5
na kapartner ni Duterte.
32:24.9
E di binaliktad siya.
32:26.7
So,
32:27.4
that's the
32:28.3
tragedy of the matter.
32:30.8
Okay.
32:31.2
So, tama ba?
32:32.0
Mukhang exciting itong
32:33.2
next few months
32:34.2
dahil may mga inaantabayanan
32:36.2
including impossible
32:37.7
issuance of
32:38.8
an arrest warrant.
32:40.6
Hindi may educated guest niya?
32:43.3
Yes.
32:44.2
Most definitely
32:45.1
ang ating
32:46.0
mga educated guest.
32:47.8
Baka,
32:48.5
baka second quarter
32:49.8
mang nangyayari ito, no?
32:51.0
But,
32:51.9
these things, again,
32:53.2
are not happening in a vacuum.
32:55.2
Hindi natin
32:55.9
i-explain na
32:57.1
itong
32:57.7
Duterte camp
32:59.9
ay
33:00.3
ano na lang,
33:01.9
hihiga na lang, ano?
33:03.8
Susuko na lang.
33:04.6
Hindi.
33:05.3
Lumalaban sila.
33:06.3
In fact,
33:07.4
they have initiated
33:09.0
yung kanilang
33:09.9
destabilization plot.
33:13.2
Nag-intensify yan
33:14.4
during the last few weeks
33:15.7
of December.
33:17.1
They took advantage of the
33:18.4
holidays.
33:18.5
To catch the
33:20.5
Marcos administration
33:21.9
of guard.
33:22.8
So, ito ngayon, ano?
33:24.8
Yung agitation
33:26.1
sa ranks
33:27.8
ng military.
33:29.4
Ano yan?
33:31.1
Sabi ko nga,
33:32.4
hindi pwedeng
33:33.2
i-underestimate yan.
33:35.4
Hindi pwedeng
33:36.0
sasabihin,
33:36.5
hindi, mga ilang
33:37.2
retired lang naman yan.
33:39.1
Wala mga tao yan.
33:40.1
Hindi.
33:41.2
Kasi,
33:42.3
yan
33:42.5
ay nakaka-influential.
33:44.3
In fact,
33:45.2
they mirror
33:45.9
sometimes the sentiments.
33:48.0
Tapos ngayon,
33:48.5
napansin ko,
33:49.7
compared dun sa panahon namin
33:51.2
nung sa Oakwood,
33:53.2
ngayon,
33:53.6
mas madali
33:54.2
kasi yung agitation
33:55.3
sa mga chat groups,
33:57.1
they can get away with it.
34:00.3
Naglalabas sila
34:01.2
kahit na ano,
34:01.9
mga fake news,
34:03.3
mga ano.
34:04.5
At maraming mga
34:06.5
active
34:07.6
na nagre-react
34:09.3
negatively.
34:10.8
Tapos,
34:11.1
nanonormalize nila.
34:12.6
Nakakalimutan nila
34:13.5
that,
34:14.5
ano yan,
34:15.3
technically,
34:16.3
they're already
34:16.9
committing violations
34:17.5
of the
34:18.5
Articles of War.
34:19.9
And,
34:20.8
speaking of
34:21.5
Articles of War,
34:23.7
maraming mga retired
34:24.8
na hindi na,
34:27.0
siguro,
34:27.5
hindi alam
34:28.2
or nakalimutan
34:29.2
na kahit retired ka,
34:31.6
napensyonado ka,
34:33.8
ay covered ka
34:35.1
ng Articles of War.
34:37.3
No?
34:38.0
Nasa presidential...
34:39.5
Ganun pala yun?
34:40.9
Covered pa rin?
34:42.1
Nasa presidential
34:43.1
decree
34:43.8
1638 yan,
34:46.0
no?
34:47.5
Ah,
34:47.9
tignan nila yan.
34:49.8
Covered sila.
34:50.6
I think that's
34:51.3
section
34:51.8
27 or 28.
34:55.4
Covered ka dun.
34:57.4
At pwede kang
34:58.3
makasuhan ng
34:59.5
Articles of War.
35:00.5
At ang Articles of War,
35:01.8
malupit yan, ha?
35:03.5
Hindi yan yung
35:04.2
regular na
35:05.0
courts na
35:05.8
bibigyan ka na
35:06.6
kung ano-ano.
35:07.7
Hindi,
35:08.2
yun, no?
35:09.2
Kaya,
35:09.8
I'm sure,
35:10.5
may mga masasampulan dyan
35:11.9
na
35:13.0
mga retired
35:14.1
generals
35:15.0
na
35:15.9
kahit na sabihin mo
35:17.4
ang
35:17.8
penalty
35:18.5
for feature
35:19.5
ng pension,
35:20.2
aba,
35:21.1
malaki-laki yung pension
35:22.1
ng general ngayon.
35:23.4
Diba?
35:23.7
So,
35:24.5
yan yung mga
35:25.2
nakapag-issue na ng
35:26.2
statements,
35:27.7
pasensya na lang kayo
35:28.7
kasi
35:29.0
prima facie
35:30.4
evidence niyon.
35:32.0
Tapos,
35:32.4
yung iba naman,
35:33.8
eto,
35:34.0
yung mga ginagawa nila
35:35.0
Panelo,
35:35.8
nila
35:36.1
Roque,
35:38.2
I believe,
35:38.9
ano naman yan,
35:39.9
inciting to sedition.
35:41.6
No?
35:42.5
Kaya,
35:42.8
yung ginawa nila
35:43.7
sa amin noon,
35:44.3
wala naman kaming
35:45.2
ginagawa,
35:46.9
ikakasuhan kami.
35:47.8
Eto sila,
35:48.5
may ginagawa sila
35:49.7
ng mga seditious
35:50.5
statements,
35:51.5
sila ngayon yung
35:52.1
makakasuhan.
35:53.6
Educated guest ko
35:54.5
lang naman yan.
35:56.1
Hindi naman yan
35:56.9
necessarily
35:57.6
mangyari.
36:00.2
Kina natin,
36:01.1
baka mangyari,
36:01.8
no?
36:02.1
Curious ako dyan
36:02.9
sa educated guest na yan,
36:04.1
eh.
36:05.2
Anyway,
36:05.9
former senator
36:06.6
Sonny Trillanes,
36:07.8
maraming-maraming salamat po
36:08.8
for joining us tonight,
36:09.9
no?
36:10.0
Mag-uusap po po tayo
36:10.9
ulit, no?
36:11.6
Dahil alam natin maraming
36:12.5
pang-developments
36:13.4
underway.
36:14.6
Anyway,
36:15.0
maraming salamat, sir,
36:15.8
and happy new year.
36:17.1
Happy new year,
36:17.6
Christian.
36:18.9
Salamat, sir.
36:22.0
Ayan po,
36:22.5
si former senator
36:23.4
Sonny Trillanes,
36:25.3
nakausap po natin,
36:26.3
no?
36:26.5
Tungkol po dito
36:27.1
sa mga developments
36:28.2
dito sa ICC.
36:30.2
Anong tingin nyo?
36:31.6
Mukhang ma-aresto na ba?
36:33.8
Ingat lang kayo,
36:34.5
no?
36:34.9
Kasi,
36:35.4
eh,
36:36.7
hindi simpleng karakter
36:37.9
yung ano,
36:38.3
kung sakali,
36:39.0
ma-arestohin, no?
36:40.1
Rodrigo Duterte yan.
36:42.8
Anyway,
36:43.3
bago tayo magtapos, no?
36:44.4
May mga babatiin lang tayo.
36:46.5
Ito,
36:47.6
ka-chat natin kanina,
36:49.1
binabati po natin
36:50.2
si Miss Doris Ferrer
36:51.9
ng
36:52.4
PEAC,
36:54.4
ng Private Education
36:55.7
Assistance Committee.
36:58.8
Magandang gabi,
36:59.3
shout-out sa'yo
37:00.1
at sa lahat ng mga
37:00.9
mubuo po
37:02.5
ng PEAC.
37:04.6
Ayan,
37:04.8
madalas po siyang
37:05.4
team replay
37:06.1
tsaka team delay,
37:07.1
pero ngayon,
37:07.6
nyata,
37:08.5
sabi niya,
37:09.2
sisikapin niyang manood live.
37:11.0
Okay?
37:12.2
Tapos,
37:12.9
sino po ba?
37:15.4
Ayun,
37:15.8
maraming salamat po
37:16.8
dito sa
37:17.6
mag-join niya
37:18.1
dito sa ating usapan.
37:19.2
Medyo nabitin daw si Audrey
37:20.5
Perla,
37:21.6
sabi niya.
37:22.1
Bitin ang usapan.
37:23.0
O, medyo bitin din.
37:23.9
Pero, syempre,
37:24.6
okay lang yan.
37:25.2
Marami pa naman tayong
37:25.7
pag-uusapan
37:26.3
in the coming days, no?
37:28.1
Yeah.
37:28.9
Eh, sana,
37:29.4
mas naunawaan niyo po
37:30.5
yung issue dito sa
37:31.3
International Criminal Court,
37:32.8
no?
37:33.0
Kasi mahirap pag
37:33.8
unreliable sources po
37:36.1
yung pinagagalingan natin
37:37.6
ng mga informasyon, no?
37:39.9
Lalo, highly partisan,
37:41.2
no?
37:41.6
Eh, dito naman,
37:42.9
tinayin niyo mabuti.
37:43.5
Yung iba mga pinag-uusapan
37:44.6
naman dito,
37:45.1
mabavalidate niyo
37:46.0
from other sources, eh.
37:47.2
Actually, yung
37:47.8
concerns or fears
37:50.6
ng Duterte Camp, no?
37:52.0
Inaarticulate na rin naman yan
37:53.0
ni, ano eh,
37:54.1
ni former human rights lawyer
37:55.8
na Harry Roque.
37:57.7
Eh, nga.
37:58.1
Mga pala, no?
37:58.9
Shoutout sa mga trolls
38:00.1
na nanood niya yun
38:01.1
kasi,
38:01.6
ah,
38:03.4
mukhang buhay na buhay
38:04.2
kayo, no?
38:04.8
Wala ibang mga sabi.
38:05.8
Nagmumula na lang.
38:07.2
Mm-mm.
38:08.3
Okay.
38:09.1
Shoutout
38:09.6
kay Melvin Rillamas.
38:11.6
Ayan.
38:11.9
Ah,
38:13.1
me and my wife,
38:14.4
Maricaris Watching,
38:15.7
pati na rin sa
38:16.3
Magdalo,
38:17.7
hindi,
38:18.3
Magdalaw,
38:19.2
Manila chapter,
38:20.1
especially,
38:20.6
kay Iska
38:21.3
Villanueva.
38:23.7
Ayan.
38:24.0
Mabuhay daw
38:24.6
si former senator
38:26.6
Sonny Trillanes.
38:29.2
Okay?
38:30.2
Sige.
38:30.6
Pasensya na po.
38:31.3
Medyo masakit po
38:32.0
yung ngiping ko ngayon
38:32.6
kaya medyo hirap po
38:33.4
akong magsalita.
38:34.4
Pero,
38:34.9
sana po gumaling na soon, no?
38:36.9
Maraming maraming salamat po
38:38.2
sa inyo.
38:39.5
And,
38:39.9
ah,
38:42.0
ayun.
38:44.0
Okay.
38:44.4
Maraming maraming salamat po
38:45.7
for joining us tonight
38:46.7
and kita-kita po tayo bukas
38:48.3
sa isa na naman pong episode
38:49.6
itong ating
38:50.6
Facts First Podcast.
38:51.9
And again,
38:53.0
maraming salamat sa inyo, no?
38:55.9
Consistently,
38:56.5
nasa top tayo ng ano, no?
38:58.6
Most popular political podcasts
39:00.5
in the Philippines.
39:01.5
Maraming maraming salamat sa inyo.
39:02.8
Dahil po sa inyo yan,
39:04.1
yung mga madalas pakinig
39:05.1
sa Spotify
39:05.8
tsaka sa Apple.
39:07.3
Hindi lang po natin siya
39:08.1
nayayabang, no?
39:09.0
Pero,
39:10.2
medyo consistent po tayo dyan.
39:11.9
Masasurge nyo naman yan.
39:13.4
Hindi po tayo
39:13.8
nag-i-invento.
39:15.5
Ibig sabihin,
39:16.0
meron po talagang mga kababayon tayo
39:17.6
na mas gusto na nakikinig
39:18.9
sa kanilang Spotify account
39:21.3
o kaya sa Apple
39:22.7
or Google Podcast
39:23.9
dito sa, ano,
39:25.9
dito sa ating mga discussion.
39:27.9
As always,
39:29.0
sana po ay mas maraming po
39:30.4
kayo natutunan.
39:32.0
Mas tumalino po tayong lahat
39:33.5
after this episode.
39:35.4
Mas naging malinaw po sa atin
39:37.2
yung pagkakaiba ng tama
39:38.8
at saka mali, no?
39:40.4
Para mas tumibay naman po
39:41.7
yung ating mga paninindigan,
39:43.2
ating mga prinsipo,
39:44.4
and eventually,
39:45.8
yung mga good habits
39:46.8
na ginagawa natin,
39:48.4
they become a virtue.
39:50.2
Okay?
39:50.9
Maraming salamat po
39:51.8
sa Team Replay
39:52.5
at saka sa Team Delay.
39:53.6
Maraming maraming salamat din po
39:54.8
sa inyo.
39:55.6
Okay?
39:56.0
Magandang gabi po
39:56.7
sa inyong lahat.
39:58.8
Ito na.
40:13.8
Thank you for watching!