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00:00.0
Even that's the reason why a vice president should not go against the president only.
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At least not this early.
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At least not this early.
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George Obrist was wise enough that he was working in opposition
00:11.9
that in the very first years of his being vice president,
00:15.5
he never once went against Imre.
00:18.5
Because that's the reality.
00:20.4
When you go on a survey,
00:22.3
when you ngaway niya ang presidente,
00:24.3
siya ang kumanang bayan o siya ang kumanang bayan.
00:26.3
Pero hindi naman rin ngaway ni Sarah si BBM.
00:30.1
Pero hindi naman rin nakapanigid sa kanya.
00:33.7
Kung hindi naman si Sarah,
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kung naglagay siya mapalk si candidate siya,
00:39.0
what will happen in that?
00:42.3
ang lamang si Presidente Marcos.
00:48.3
But eventually, I know he can compete against her.
00:52.7
But the only likely first would be Sarah.
00:56.2
The yellow forces,
01:00.2
the yellow plus the pinks,
01:01.8
they're thinking, like you were saying earlier,
01:04.2
between BBM and the Mundo Cusas
01:06.5
and Sarah Duterte.
01:08.1
Duterte, they'd rather go for her.
01:09.6
If it's a question, I agree.
01:11.7
Okay, we'll be back.
01:13.4
Have a quick break. Stay tuned.
03:24.1
We saw essentially three elections
03:26.1
where the liberal opposition, literally
03:28.2
liberal party-affiliated people, did not
03:30.2
do very well. So clearly, we have a
03:32.0
significant structural problem facing them.
03:34.6
I think a lot of people either bought
03:36.2
into the disinformation against them, and a lot
03:38.1
of people also were disappointed with the
03:40.1
empirical shortcomings
03:42.1
of people associated with the liberal party,
03:44.0
or who came from the liberal party and became
03:46.0
the president in the past. So I think
03:48.2
they really have to do something special.
03:50.1
Part the picture that we have of the opposition.
03:51.9
Some people from the more Mahabayan
03:54.0
bloc-affiliated people were in
03:55.9
that picture. I think Franz Castro, for instance,
03:58.0
Congressman Franz Castro was there,
03:59.8
among others. Are we looking at
04:01.8
revamping here? Or, as far as the
04:03.9
opposition is concerned, are they going to run
04:05.7
as kind of 8 Direcho, which didn't do
04:07.7
very well, medyo 8-0 ang nangyari
04:09.5
noong 2019 elections? Or are they going to
04:11.8
run separately? Yeah, they're going to run separately
04:14.0
and try to rebuild their personal brand
04:15.9
because I think the traditional liberal
04:17.7
opposition is really in a crisis, and they need
04:19.8
something more significant than, you know,
04:21.8
waiting for time to heal things. It doesn't
04:23.8
seem to be working in that sense, if they're
04:25.7
just hoping for people to give them a chance again.
04:27.7
But are they even
04:29.8
interested, right?
04:30.9
I think that everyone, like you were talking
04:33.8
earlier, ma-interested ba sila?
04:35.8
Tatakbo ba sila? Or
04:37.3
LGU? Or hindi tatakbo?
04:40.9
interested in returning to politics?
04:45.0
He's busy with 1099?
04:48.8
like you said earlier, of course,
04:50.8
it's really when I got the money to fund me.
04:53.7
I mean, sometimes we're not funded during
04:55.7
midterm elections. There's no change.
04:57.8
There's no change in leadership.
05:02.7
be blamed, so he's not been doing
05:05.5
something that would damage the economy.
05:07.7
He's been saying the right things in terms of
05:09.4
the defense of the West Philippine
05:11.6
Sea. And he's been showing
05:13.5
up? He's been showing up.
05:22.0
determined to change the
05:25.2
personality of the world, but
05:26.5
by and large, when it's midterm,
05:28.8
medyo tumataya ang mga
05:31.8
And also, like we were saying
05:33.9
earlier, talagang
05:36.0
para bang the election
05:37.9
pupuntahan talaga
05:40.6
para bang coalition
05:42.1
of sorts, an alliance of sorts
05:43.9
with the Marcus forces
05:45.5
instead of opposing, instead of
05:47.7
being the opposition, right?
05:52.1
we were talking about this.
05:53.2
I have a question.
05:53.7
I have a question.
05:59.9
sharing that point.
06:01.4
For now, we're really
06:03.1
to aligns in the back to
06:09.3
the most valuable thing
06:10.8
when the president
06:13.3
It's really, that's
06:19.4
I'm just referring to the Liberal Party.
06:22.5
I think that within the party,
06:24.2
we have different views.
06:25.2
Stella Kimbrough is different
06:26.6
from the other Liberal Party.
06:27.7
So, there's, there's
06:29.6
maybe, perhaps, you need to
06:30.8
in principle, some might ask
06:32.2
to be very, very tactical.
06:34.6
There's no discussion, eh.
06:36.1
I mean, as far as I know.
06:37.5
Well, Richard was saying earlier,
06:39.3
you know, in so many ways,
06:40.9
para bang kapag ito sinabi,
06:43.1
medyo pwede ang tao, diba?
06:45.9
Yung sinatoy na human people
06:47.4
will not vote based on
06:48.8
the party elevation, eh.
06:51.7
Maybe that's one of the mistake
06:53.4
of people affiliated with
06:56.0
more than an LP brand,
06:57.1
which was not there
06:58.5
in the first place.
06:59.3
There was a normal
07:02.8
So, I think if they'd like
07:04.1
to move in there,
07:05.0
some might be interested,
07:07.2
their own personal brand
07:08.3
and move from there.
07:10.7
That was a mistake
07:12.8
that's why they don't show up.
07:15.7
that has been run
07:20.2
let's just say numbers.
07:22.1
where these people are.
07:25.4
after the election,
07:29.5
You have that 20%
07:30.9
support base there.
07:38.1
in the coalition.
07:40.0
And to be the coalition,
07:41.6
you have to understand
07:42.1
where do you stand
07:44.5
And even back now,
07:48.1
I have supporters
07:50.1
or Central Business Sector.
07:53.5
West Philippine Sea,
08:02.4
by Secretary of the Union,
08:04.0
you get that first.
08:05.8
That's the other part
08:06.9
that you would not like
08:07.8
to be associated with.
08:14.7
would you be open
08:15.5
to being in the coalition?
08:18.2
Because at the grassroots level,
08:19.8
I'm talking about
08:20.5
the political families
08:21.9
as you have said,
08:23.1
a great flexibility.
08:25.8
haven't been here at home.
08:29.9
people that we used to call
08:31.9
sihir naman lang yan
08:38.3
some of the electionists
08:42.2
some of the reson
08:54.3
a stake with some
08:57.9
And that would be a powerful, because if it's an FNM
08:60.0
between Marcos and the other side,
09:02.6
there's no other side.
09:03.7
Because the other side would be
09:04.8
the government of the Bataan administration.
09:10.0
a quick break na lang.
09:12.0
My guests, when we
09:13.8
return, this is politics as usual.
10:54.3
It's different from 2025, but it's always
11:04.3
political environment.
11:08.0
Brans, Lenny, Kiko,
11:10.1
I'm reading the names of the
11:12.3
opposition figures in the
11:14.4
survey. So, Dan Aquino, Frank
11:16.1
Trillon, Sonny Trillanes,
11:18.0
Cheryl Yorkmore, Laila Dilima.
11:20.2
Sino dito interesado na tumakbo
11:24.3
I read Laila and Cheryl.
11:29.7
Sila yung pinakamata.
11:31.6
Si Lenny, si Bam, si Kiko.
11:34.4
Si Cheryl, I know.
11:36.1
So, is interested in running.
11:38.8
But the others, I don't know.
11:40.5
Like Laila, she just left
11:42.4
or she was just released from prison.
11:44.9
She's out on bail.
11:46.2
So, she'd like to build her life first.
11:48.1
I mean, she's been saying that.
11:49.4
So, I doubt if she wants to get involved.
11:51.1
But she can be a strong advocate.
11:53.3
She can be a good company.
11:54.3
And she doesn't, yeah,
11:55.5
she doesn't hit on,
11:56.7
she's going to hit on Lutepra
11:58.0
but not on Marcos.
11:60.0
That was obvious, no?
12:01.1
The day she was released on bail.
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Yung mga opposition na yan,
12:06.8
is there already,
12:09.6
I mean, it's just nine months
12:10.5
before filing ng COC.
12:12.1
Meron na bang grupo
12:13.2
ng mga operators ng opposition
12:16.4
who are getting slaked together
12:21.3
para makaguo ng isang slate
12:27.0
the campaign starts
12:28.7
in early next year,
12:32.7
Hindi ko alam kung L2
12:34.4
pero yung mga yan eh.
12:35.8
I mean, some of them had formed.
12:37.2
Like, for instance,
12:37.9
Chia Ran, I'm gonna have a fight too.
12:39.6
I mean, okay, ano?
12:47.2
Ah, I don't know.
12:49.1
They form a fight too.
12:50.1
Si that professor,
12:53.4
That was actually
12:54.6
from the Obama kingdom.
12:59.8
But for the viewers,
13:02.0
ayan ang paligot kasi
13:03.3
sa Philippine world.
13:04.4
Kasi hindi na natin maalala.
13:37.5
I don't have a top 12.
13:39.9
The only committee
13:41.1
who's always very active
13:44.1
His score is so sure.
13:49.3
part of my community.
14:01.7
your last thoughts.
14:05.9
because he's joining us
14:08.6
I think the approach
14:09.4
of the opposition
14:10.0
should be more or less
14:13.5
ocho-derecho style
14:16.4
to the usual attacks
14:18.1
on opposition-affiliated folks.
14:20.6
they have to be creative,
14:24.2
different kinds of
14:26.0
cross-ideological
14:28.4
coalition building
14:30.2
perhaps should just run
14:31.2
on their own terms,
14:32.2
on their own merit
14:33.6
correctly pointed out,
14:35.0
we're still a very
14:35.5
personality-based politics.
14:36.7
the Senate race matters
14:42.3
the ideological opposition
14:43.9
and this is really
14:44.7
going to be between
14:46.1
the functional opposition
14:47.8
but you have to have
14:49.7
from the real opposition
14:53.3
because it's very possible
14:58.3
the pro-Marcos camp
15:00.8
the midterm elections
15:02.5
for constitutional change
15:04.9
they could box out
15:05.9
both the realists
15:06.7
and the real opposition
15:07.2
and the functional opposition
15:09.4
the stakes are very high
15:11.8
things are not looking
15:13.0
for the real opposition
15:14.4
or progressive opposition
15:16.7
prospects at the national
15:18.4
politics level is concerned.
15:19.6
I think two or three
15:20.8
should throw their
15:21.8
hats into the ring
15:24.7
maneuver for some position
15:26.1
at the national level
15:27.4
because we could have
15:28.3
constitutional change
15:29.3
questions and maneuvers
15:31.7
especially if the
15:34.7
and wants to box out
15:38.0
the real opposition.
15:40.0
Well, there's only one
15:40.9
opposition senator.
15:42.2
Sorry, there are two.
15:56.0
Okay, we have a minute
16:00.9
that wants to run
16:01.9
needs to be strategic
16:07.0
to that president.
16:08.1
the president still
16:13.2
So, if you'd like
16:15.4
to push his agenda,
16:17.1
2025 is a good time
16:19.8
with the president
16:20.8
who has the political
16:21.8
capital legitimately
16:23.7
presidential position
16:24.6
and is legitimately
16:27.5
by the general public
16:28.9
and by key people.
16:34.9
strategically also
16:35.9
and go from there.
16:36.6
So, you come back
16:37.8
and you have to come up
16:40.6
and if you're going
16:42.8
something helpful,
16:46.7
That's what the people want.
16:48.8
The more unpopular
16:51.8
that we have to make.
16:55.0
knowing the reality
17:03.7
some concessions.
17:06.6
It's hard to run.
17:08.1
At least get some
17:13.3
by the president.
17:16.9
after the defense
17:18.2
during the government
17:19.7
and maybe in that way
17:23.2
the more unpopular
17:24.6
the more position
17:25.0
you have to make.
17:26.3
Even if you don't
17:29.3
you have to make it.
17:31.2
the way to do it.
17:33.0
is really just support
17:34.2
whoever you think
17:35.4
that you will bring.
17:36.6
The country for all.
17:51.3
Thank you very much
17:53.5
joining us via Zoom.
17:54.4
Thank you, Richard.
17:58.1
We've been told before,
17:59.5
don't talk politics
18:00.2
at the dinner table
18:03.7
Thank you very much.
18:07.0
I hope just enough
18:16.9
Thank you very much.
18:19.8
about our connection
18:22.8
I'll post the link
18:23.6
once the final version
18:27.9
former presidential
18:30.0
of President Aquino.
18:32.1
Very reasonable again
18:34.8
of Professor Dean
18:36.8
He's also very much
18:38.4
what is happening
18:39.7
behind the scenes
18:41.2
thank you very much.
18:42.2
and talk to you guys soon.