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Even that's the reason why a vice president should not go against the president only.
00:05.1
At least not this early.
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At least not this early.
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George Obrist was wise enough that he was working in opposition
00:11.9
that in the very first years of his being vice president,
00:15.5
he never once went against Imre.
00:18.5
Because that's the reality.
00:20.4
When you go on a survey,
00:22.3
when you ngaway niya ang presidente,
00:24.3
siya ang kumanang bayan o siya ang kumanang bayan.
00:26.3
Pero hindi naman rin ngaway ni Sarah si BBM.
00:30.1
Pero hindi naman rin nakapanigid sa kanya.
00:32.9
That's true.
00:33.7
Kung hindi naman si Sarah,
00:36.8
kung naglagay siya mapalk si candidate siya,
00:39.0
what will happen in that?
00:40.4
Is this a...
00:41.8
I feel like
00:42.3
ang lamang si Presidente Marcos.
00:48.3
But eventually, I know he can compete against her.
00:52.7
But the only likely first would be Sarah.
00:55.4
Because she...
00:56.2
The yellow forces,
01:00.2
the yellow plus the pinks,
01:01.8
they're thinking, like you were saying earlier,
01:04.2
between BBM and the Mundo Cusas
01:06.5
and Sarah Duterte.
01:08.1
Duterte, they'd rather go for her.
01:09.6
If it's a question, I agree.
01:11.7
Okay, we'll be back.
01:13.4
Have a quick break. Stay tuned.
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Paltos KC, sure.
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Okay.
01:37.7
Okay.
01:41.3
Okay.
01:42.7
Okay.
01:43.0
Okay.
01:43.7
Okay.
01:45.3
Okay.
01:47.1
Okay.
01:50.8
Okay.
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Okay.
01:54.6
Okay.
01:55.3
Okay.
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Okay.
01:55.6
Okay.
01:55.8
Okay.
01:56.1
Thank you.
02:26.1
Thank you.
02:56.1
Thank you.
03:24.1
We saw essentially three elections
03:26.1
where the liberal opposition, literally
03:28.2
liberal party-affiliated people, did not
03:30.2
do very well. So clearly, we have a
03:32.0
significant structural problem facing them.
03:34.6
I think a lot of people either bought
03:36.2
into the disinformation against them, and a lot
03:38.1
of people also were disappointed with the
03:40.1
empirical shortcomings
03:42.1
of people associated with the liberal party,
03:44.0
or who came from the liberal party and became
03:46.0
the president in the past. So I think
03:48.2
they really have to do something special.
03:50.1
Part the picture that we have of the opposition.
03:51.9
Some people from the more Mahabayan
03:54.0
bloc-affiliated people were in
03:55.9
that picture. I think Franz Castro, for instance,
03:58.0
Congressman Franz Castro was there,
03:59.8
among others. Are we looking at
04:01.8
revamping here? Or, as far as the
04:03.9
opposition is concerned, are they going to run
04:05.7
as kind of 8 Direcho, which didn't do
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very well, medyo 8-0 ang nangyari
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noong 2019 elections? Or are they going to
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run separately? Yeah, they're going to run separately
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and try to rebuild their personal brand
04:15.9
because I think the traditional liberal
04:17.7
opposition is really in a crisis, and they need
04:19.8
something more significant than, you know,
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waiting for time to heal things. It doesn't
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seem to be working in that sense, if they're
04:25.7
just hoping for people to give them a chance again.
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But are they even
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interested, right?
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I think that everyone, like you were talking
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earlier, ma-interested ba sila?
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Tatakbo ba sila? Or
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LGU? Or hindi tatakbo?
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Miles? Is he
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interested in returning to politics?
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Or, you know?
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He's busy with 1099?
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No, but
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like you said earlier, of course,
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it's really when I got the money to fund me.
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I mean, sometimes we're not funded during
04:55.4
a
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midterm elections. There's no change.
04:57.8
There's no change in leadership.
04:59.5
So, the
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investor would
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be blamed, so he's not been doing
05:05.5
something that would damage the economy.
05:07.7
He's been saying the right things in terms of
05:09.4
the defense of the West Philippine
05:11.6
Sea. And he's been showing
05:13.5
up? He's been showing up.
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He's really been
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a big
05:18.4
founder.
05:21.4
Unless he's
05:22.0
determined to change the
05:25.2
personality of the world, but
05:26.5
by and large, when it's midterm,
05:28.8
medyo tumataya ang mga
05:31.0
netera eh.
05:31.8
And also, like we were saying
05:33.9
earlier, talagang
05:36.0
para bang the election
05:37.9
pupuntahan talaga
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para bang coalition
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of sorts, an alliance of sorts
05:43.9
with the Marcus forces
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instead of opposing, instead of
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being the opposition, right?
05:51.0
Well,
05:52.1
we were talking about this.
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I have a question.
05:53.7
I have a question.
05:55.2
Well,
05:56.2
I'm obviously
05:59.9
sharing that point.
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For now, we're really
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to aligns in the back to
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stay in a deeper
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environment.
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I think that's
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the most valuable thing
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when the president
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of the Macau
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It's really, that's
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the primary of
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I'm just referring to the Liberal Party.
06:22.5
I think that within the party,
06:24.2
we have different views.
06:25.2
Stella Kimbrough is different
06:26.6
from the other Liberal Party.
06:27.7
So, there's, there's
06:29.6
maybe, perhaps, you need to
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in principle, some might ask
06:32.2
to be very, very tactical.
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There's no discussion, eh.
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I mean, as far as I know.
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Well, Richard was saying earlier,
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you know, in so many ways,
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para bang kapag ito sinabi,
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medyo pwede ang tao, diba?
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Yung sinatoy na human people
06:47.4
will not vote based on
06:48.8
the party elevation, eh.
06:51.7
Maybe that's one of the mistake
06:53.4
of people affiliated with
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LTV.
06:55.2
They want to be
06:56.0
more than an LP brand,
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which was not there
06:58.5
in the first place.
06:59.3
There was a normal
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LTV brand,
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not LP.
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So, I think if they'd like
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to move in there,
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some might be interested,
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should move in
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their own personal brand
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and move from there.
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That was a mistake
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those 2022,
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that's why they don't show up.
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And I know of
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some of those
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that has been run
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under
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the powers,
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let's just say numbers.
07:21.2
It's not as good
07:22.1
where these people are.
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And because
07:25.4
after the election,
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we became quiet
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and disappeared.
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You have that 20%
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support base there.
07:32.7
Can it still be
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highness?
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To me?
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But you have to
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move that again
07:38.1
in the coalition.
07:40.0
And to be the coalition,
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you have to understand
07:42.1
where do you stand
07:42.9
right now?
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And even back now,
07:45.3
you seem to have
07:46.1
more support
07:47.2
for supporters.
07:48.1
I have supporters
07:48.9
of President
07:49.6
Young Denmark
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or Central Business Sector.
07:52.5
Supporters in
07:53.5
West Philippine Sea,
07:54.7
the issue.
07:56.2
But one thing
07:57.4
that divided you
07:59.3
or something
07:59.9
rather said
08:00.8
which is
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as mentioned
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by Secretary of the Union,
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you get that first.
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That's the other part
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that you would not like
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to be associated with.
08:09.5
These are things
08:10.4
that you need
08:11.0
to clear them
08:12.5
to ask yourself,
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would you be open
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to being in the coalition?
08:18.2
Because at the grassroots level,
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I'm talking about
08:20.5
the political families
08:21.9
as you have said,
08:22.6
this is really
08:23.1
a great flexibility.
08:24.3
I can say oils,
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so many of them
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haven't been here at home.
08:27.3
Many of them
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first,
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the first level
08:29.9
people that we used to call
08:31.0
well,
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그것 sumag
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sihir naman lang yan
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it's the slope.
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So,
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and
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always,
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remember also
08:37.0
that
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the same
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some of the electionists
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were
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dependent,
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some of them
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were quite
08:42.2
some of the reson
08:42.5
were few
08:42.9
men in the past.
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I'm referring
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to Tito Soto,
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delicious
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and really
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may be trying to
08:48.4
come up
08:48.9
with that kind
08:49.5
of a slope
08:51.3
but another
08:53.4
work on
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house,
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a stake with some
08:55.4
with Marcos.
08:57.9
And that would be a powerful, because if it's an FNM
08:60.0
between Marcos and the other side,
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there's no other side.
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Because the other side would be
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the government of the Bataan administration.
09:07.8
But if we take
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a quick break na lang.
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My guests, when we
09:13.8
return, this is politics as usual.
09:24.3
Thank you.
09:54.3
Thank you.
10:24.3
Thank you.
10:54.3
It's different from 2025, but it's always
10:56.2
a possibility.
10:59.2
Depending on
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how you position
11:03.0
yourself in this
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political environment.
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Earlier, Edwin
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Brans, Lenny, Kiko,
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I'm reading the names of the
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opposition figures in the
11:14.4
survey. So, Dan Aquino, Frank
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Trillon, Sonny Trillanes,
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Cheryl Yorkmore, Laila Dilima.
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Sino dito interesado na tumakbo
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sa Senado?
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I read Laila and Cheryl.
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Kiko.
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Kiko and Bam.
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Sila yung pinakamata.
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Si Lenny, si Bam, si Kiko.
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Si Cheryl, I know.
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So, is interested in running.
11:38.8
But the others, I don't know.
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Like Laila, she just left
11:42.4
or she was just released from prison.
11:44.9
She's out on bail.
11:46.2
So, she'd like to build her life first.
11:48.1
I mean, she's been saying that.
11:49.4
So, I doubt if she wants to get involved.
11:51.1
But she can be a strong advocate.
11:53.3
She can be a good company.
11:54.3
And she doesn't, yeah,
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she doesn't hit on,
11:56.7
she's going to hit on Lutepra
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but not on Marcos.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That was obvious, no?
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The day she was released on bail.
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Yung mga opposition na yan,
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is there already,
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I mean, it's just nine months
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before filing ng COC.
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Meron na bang grupo
12:13.2
ng mga operators ng opposition
12:16.4
who are getting slaked together
12:19.3
to, you know,
12:21.3
para makaguo ng isang slate
12:23.4
para by the time
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filing ng COC
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and by the time
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the campaign starts
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in early next year,
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meron na tayo.
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Hindi ko alam kung L2
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pero yung mga yan eh.
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I mean, some of them had formed.
12:37.2
Like, for instance,
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Chia Ran, I'm gonna have a fight too.
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I mean, okay, ano?
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What's the name?
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Okay.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Ah, I don't know.
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Ano yan?
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They form a fight too.
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Si that professor,
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Ina Tino.
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Si who?
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Si who?
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Si who?
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That was actually
12:54.6
from the Obama kingdom.
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That's correct.
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That's right.
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That's right.
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I'm sorry.
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I'm sorry.
12:59.8
But for the viewers,
13:02.0
ayan ang paligot kasi
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sa Philippine world.
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Kasi hindi na natin maalala.
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Ano eh?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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Ano?
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I don't have a top 12.
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The only committee
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who's always very active
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is Jojo Binay.
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Yeah, right.
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His score is so sure.
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Yeah.
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He's so sure.
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Oh, oh.
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Everybody is
13:49.3
part of my community.
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So,
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hindi ko lang
13:51.4
lamanan talaga.
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Right.
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Thank you.
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So,
13:54.0
hindi ko lang
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lamanan talaga.
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And ito,
13:56.7
sa top 12,
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sa Magic 12,
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yung talagang
13:59.0
kinagamang tao.
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Okay,
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final words na
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your last thoughts.
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Let's begin with
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Richard
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because he's joining us
14:07.0
now soon.
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Richard?
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Yeah,
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I think the approach
14:09.4
of the opposition
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should be more or less
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a la carte.
14:11.7
I think running
14:13.1
yung parang
14:13.5
ocho-derecho style
14:14.6
will make them
14:15.7
more susceptible
14:16.4
to the usual attacks
14:18.1
on opposition-affiliated folks.
14:20.4
So,
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they have to be creative,
14:21.5
they have to be
14:22.5
cross-sectional,
14:24.0
you know,
14:24.2
different kinds of
14:26.0
cross-ideological
14:28.4
coalition building
14:29.5
and some people
14:30.2
perhaps should just run
14:31.2
on their own terms,
14:32.2
on their own merit
14:32.9
because as Dindo
14:33.6
correctly pointed out,
14:35.0
we're still a very
14:35.5
personality-based politics.
14:36.6
Now,
14:36.7
the Senate race matters
14:38.1
because I know
14:39.1
some would think
14:39.6
that 2025
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medyo malabo
14:41.3
for what I call
14:42.3
the ideological opposition
14:43.9
and this is really
14:44.7
going to be between
14:45.3
Duterte,
14:46.1
the functional opposition
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and the Marcoses
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but you have to have
14:49.2
some people
14:49.7
from the real opposition
14:50.8
in the ring
14:53.3
because it's very possible
14:54.6
that 2028
14:55.4
may not come
14:56.1
or at least
14:57.1
after 2025
14:58.3
the pro-Marcos camp
14:59.6
if they dominate
15:00.8
the midterm elections
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they could push
15:02.5
for constitutional change
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altogether
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and that way
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they could box out
15:05.9
both the realists
15:06.7
and the real opposition
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and the functional opposition
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for good.
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So,
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the stakes are very high
15:10.4
even though,
15:11.5
of course,
15:11.8
things are not looking
15:12.5
very good
15:13.0
for the real opposition
15:14.4
or progressive opposition
15:15.4
as far as their
15:16.7
prospects at the national
15:18.4
politics level is concerned.
15:19.6
I think two or three
15:20.3
big names
15:20.8
should throw their
15:21.8
hats into the ring
15:23.4
and try to
15:24.7
maneuver for some position
15:26.1
at the national level
15:27.4
because we could have
15:28.3
constitutional change
15:29.3
questions and maneuvers
15:30.8
after 2025
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especially if the
15:32.8
pro-Marcos camp
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wins for good
15:34.7
and wants to box out
15:35.9
the Duterte
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and potentially
15:37.3
also box out
15:38.0
the real opposition.
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Well, there's only one
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opposition senator.
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Sorry, there are two.
15:45.0
Lisa and
15:46.0
Koho Pimentel.
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But Lisa stays
15:49.2
until 2020.
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Si Koho is
15:50.9
I'm counting
15:52.2
2025, no?
15:54.3
Anyway,
15:54.8
we'll check that
15:55.7
in a bit.
15:56.0
Okay, we have a minute
15:57.1
to go.
15:57.4
So, final words
15:58.0
from Jumbo
15:58.5
and then Andrew.
15:59.2
I think everyone
16:00.9
that wants to run
16:01.9
needs to be strategic
16:02.7
but something
16:04.3
to factor in
16:05.1
is the strength
16:06.0
of,
16:06.6
in fact,
16:07.0
to that president.
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And I believe
16:08.1
the president still
16:09.1
gets within
16:10.2
seven out of ten
16:11.6
Filipinos
16:12.1
supporting him.
16:13.2
So, if you'd like
16:14.0
to be strategic
16:14.7
and you're happy
16:15.4
to push his agenda,
16:17.1
2025 is a good time
16:18.9
to coalesce
16:19.8
with the president
16:20.8
who has the political
16:21.8
capital legitimately
16:23.0
winning his
16:23.7
presidential position
16:24.6
and is legitimately
16:26.2
still accepted
16:27.5
by the general public
16:28.9
and by key people.
16:30.4
You know,
16:30.8
if you're
16:31.4
an opposition
16:32.1
or a senate
16:32.9
who'd like to be
16:33.6
in a senate,
16:34.5
try to think
16:34.9
strategically also
16:35.9
and go from there.
16:36.6
So, you come back
16:37.8
and you have to come up
16:40.6
and if you're going
16:41.7
to be creative,
16:42.8
something helpful,
16:43.8
I guess.
16:44.5
For you, huh?
16:46.7
That's what the people want.
16:47.7
Yeah.
16:48.3
And then?
16:48.8
The more unpopular
16:49.7
of you,
16:50.5
we always think
16:51.2
of the position
16:51.8
that we have to make.
16:53.3
We are unpopular
16:55.0
knowing the reality
16:56.4
of the lack
16:57.2
of resources,
16:58.1
the lack of
16:58.8
support.
17:01.2
It's still
17:01.4
this room
17:03.1
and demand
17:03.7
some concessions.
17:04.8
Do we support?
17:05.9
Not really.
17:06.4
Not really.
17:06.6
It's hard to run.
17:08.1
At least get some
17:08.7
concessions.
17:09.2
For instance,
17:09.6
in policies,
17:10.9
liberal policies
17:11.9
that we want
17:12.5
to be taken up
17:13.3
by the president.
17:14.7
And from there,
17:16.1
we need
17:16.5
the opinion
17:16.9
after the defense
17:18.2
during the government
17:19.7
and maybe in that way
17:21.9
we can influence
17:22.8
because
17:23.2
the more unpopular
17:24.1
the president,
17:24.6
the more position
17:25.0
you have to make.
17:26.3
Even if you don't
17:27.5
have the power,
17:29.3
you have to make it.
17:30.4
Maybe that's
17:31.2
the way to do it.
17:32.2
The way to do it
17:33.0
is really just support
17:34.2
whoever you think
17:35.0
is the one
17:35.4
that you will bring.
17:36.6
The country for all.
17:38.0
Who's Johnny
17:38.4
from the
17:39.2
office?
17:39.5
I don't know.
17:39.8
I don't know.
17:41.3
The matrix
17:42.1
of your company.
17:42.9
I don't know
17:43.5
who the copies
17:45.6
because it's
17:46.0
BUBU M
17:46.6
and Manos
17:47.2
like to wealthy.
17:47.8
Of course,
17:48.3
that's the son
17:49.1
of the copies.
17:50.7
Okay.
17:51.3
Thank you very much
17:51.9
to our guests.
17:52.8
Richard A. Darin
17:53.5
joining us via Zoom.
17:54.4
Thank you, Richard.
17:55.5
Thank you,
17:55.9
Dean Bermanhut
17:56.5
and thank you,
17:57.2
Edwin Lacherda.
17:58.1
We've been told before,
17:59.5
don't talk politics
18:00.2
at the dinner table
18:01.1
or the family.
18:02.7
Thank you.
18:03.7
Thank you very much.
18:05.7
It didn't cut
18:06.4
too much.
18:07.0
I hope just enough
18:08.1
was there.
18:08.5
Thank you.
18:08.9
Salamat.
18:09.6
Thank you.
18:10.8
Thank you.
18:15.3
Okay.
18:16.2
Alright, guys.
18:16.9
Thank you very much.
18:17.8
Sorry,
18:18.1
I'm a little
18:18.5
confused
18:19.8
about our connection
18:21.2
and all
18:21.8
but don't worry.
18:22.8
I'll post the link
18:23.6
once the final version
18:25.1
comes out.
18:25.6
So,
18:25.7
Edwin Lacherda
18:27.9
former presidential
18:29.2
spokesman
18:30.0
of President Aquino.
18:32.1
Very reasonable again
18:33.1
and then,
18:33.5
of course,
18:33.8
the other ones
18:34.2
are good friends
18:34.8
of Professor Dean
18:35.9
D. Manhut.
18:36.8
He's also very much
18:37.4
informed about
18:38.4
what is happening
18:39.7
behind the scenes
18:40.3
and all.
18:41.2
thank you very much.
18:41.8
Happy New Year
18:42.2
and talk to you guys soon.


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