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Gulo ba kung ipaaresto ng ICC si Duterte? Say ni Trillanes
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00:00.0
Only the state can file a case against Mr. Duterte.
00:11.1
The state, ano?
00:12.3
Ngayon, pag tinatanong nyo, bakit hindi nyo kinakasuhan yung ano?
00:15.7
Tanungin nyo si Secretary Remulla.
00:18.4
Siya yung DOJ. Merong motto propio.
00:21.6
Dapat siya yung nagpa-file.
00:23.2
Kaso, sa tagal-tagal na, wala naman.
00:27.5
Ngayon, meron tayong batas.
00:30.0
Meron tayong batas yung Republic Act 9851
00:34.9
na ito yung nagde-define ng mga iba't ibang krimen
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like crimes against humanity,
00:41.0
kung ano-ano man,
00:43.0
na sinasabi doon sa jurisdiction.
00:45.3
Ito nga yung basis nung tweet ko kahapon
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na yung estado,
00:52.2
kagaya nito, Marcos Administration, bago na,
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pwede nilang, kasi sinabi may dispense,
00:57.8
meaning pwede,
00:59.0
pwede na silang hindi,
01:00.0
hindi mag-imbestiga o mag-prosecute
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kung meron nang nag-iimbestiga
01:05.1
na international tribunal.
01:08.1
Tapos, sinabi pa ron na kung meron na nag-iimbestiga,
01:11.9
pwedeng isurrender na lang
01:13.8
ng estado
01:15.1
ang mga akusadong ito
01:17.1
doon sa international tribunal
01:19.2
na nag-iimbestiga.
01:21.0
So, maliwanag, hindi po ito unconstitutional,
01:24.4
hindi ito bawal, hindi ito pagsusurrender ng sovereignty.
01:27.9
Batas po ng Pilipinas,
01:30.0
yan,
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na ipasa ito nung year 2009.
01:33.4
Okay, malinaw po yun, legally.
01:35.6
Pero politically, alam po natin
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na matindi po implications niya.
01:38.8
Why would, kung kayo naman si President
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Marcos Jr.,
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why would you cooperate and surrender
01:45.6
si Duterte sa ICC?
01:47.7
Ano yung maging impact ng politically sa kanya?
01:50.6
Marami yun, ano?
01:51.8
Maraming implications.
01:53.2
Yun yun yung kailangan niyang balabalansihin.
01:55.9
Ano ba, magagalit ba yung taong bayan?
01:58.9
Pero,
01:59.2
on the other hand,
02:01.2
pagka nag-issue ng warrant dyan,
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tapos,
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siya ay nagko-cover pa,
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tatamaan naman yung kanyang reputation
02:08.6
sa international community.
02:10.8
Diba?
02:11.9
Malay mo, may maka-akibat na mga
02:14.1
mga trade,
02:16.6
ano yan, concessions,
02:18.5
kung anuman.
02:19.7
At,
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bakit nga naman din niya,
02:22.2
the end of the day,
02:22.9
bakit nga naman niya paproteksyonan itong si Mr. Duterte
02:25.6
na nananawagan ng Auster?
02:28.7
Diba?
02:29.2
Civil disobedience,
02:31.0
withdrawal of support,
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coup d'etat.
02:33.2
Bakit kasusuportahan that very same person?
02:38.0
Gusto siyang patalsikin.
02:40.0
Diba?
02:40.8
Babalabalansihin ni
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President Marcos yan
02:44.9
at the proper time.
02:46.9
Kasi,
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yung mga ganyan,
02:49.1
political wins na chibi.
02:51.6
So, kung the political wins are favorable
02:54.5
at the time of the issuance of the warrant,
02:57.4
to surrender him,
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baka ganun na mangyari.
03:00.9
If not,
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baka hindi,
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hindi muna.
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So, maraming,
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ano yan,
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permutations.
03:06.8
Okay.
03:07.6
Ang claim ng iba,
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including itong si
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former human rights lawyer
03:11.1
turned
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rabid Duterte
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defender,
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eh magkakagulo raw
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pag nangyari yan.
03:17.6
Pag pinaaresto
03:19.1
ng Marcos administration
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o nag-cooperate sila
03:22.1
in case maglabas ng arrest warrant
03:23.8
against Duterte.
03:25.5
Do you agree?
03:26.3
Magkakagulo?
03:27.9
Yan yung kanilang,
03:29.2
naratid, no?
03:31.0
Yan yung,
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kumbaga,
03:33.4
drum beating, no?
03:35.2
O,
03:36.2
nila parang
03:37.0
they're threatening.
03:38.8
Kaso,
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personally,
03:40.2
I believe it's a bluff.
03:41.8
No?
03:42.5
I don't think people will
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go out in the streets
03:46.2
para mag,
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lulupasay para kay Mr. Duterte.
03:51.5
Hindi, kasi at the end of the day,
03:53.1
ano ang ginawa nitong mama nito
03:54.6
sa Pilipinas?
03:57.3
Umasenso ba
03:58.1
kayo?
03:59.2
Dito sa 6 na taon
04:00.8
ni Mr. Duterte?
04:02.2
O mas humirap yung buhay?
04:04.1
Tatandaan nila
04:04.9
nung panahon ng pandemic
04:06.2
kung paano
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pinahirapan,
04:08.6
paano minishandle
04:09.8
ni Duterte
04:10.4
yung ating ekonomiya?
04:12.8
At ganong hirap
04:14.2
ng buhay nun?
04:15.4
Yun ang binigay.
04:16.7
Ito na lang
04:17.7
jeepney modernization na ito
04:19.4
na pinoproblema
04:21.0
ng mga jeepney drivers.
04:22.2
Kaninong brainchild yan?
04:24.0
Kay Duterte yan.
04:25.0
Bakit?
04:25.5
Kasi alaki ng kita eh.
04:27.7
Nang
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pag yung
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yung
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yung
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yung
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kontak nila
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ng mga
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contractors
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1 million per unit
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ng jeep
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ang kikitain nila.
04:34.7
Talagang
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nagkukumahod sila.
04:37.4
Yan yung mga sample dyan.
04:38.6
Ilan pa yung pinapatay?
04:40.1
Diba?
04:40.8
So,
04:41.5
bakit nila ngayon
04:42.4
gagawin?
04:43.1
Alam nyo,
04:43.4
karamihan yung mga
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tinitignan namin,
04:45.6
karamihan yung mga
04:46.5
mga trolls
04:48.0
na nag-de-defend
04:49.6
kay Duterte,
04:51.8
mga nasa abroad,
04:53.0
yung mga hindi
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alam
04:55.1
yung tunay na
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sitwasyon dito
04:57.0
or yung mga
04:58.1
nasa Davao.
04:59.2
Yung mga
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taga-Davao.
05:01.1
So,
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ganon yung
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profile nung mga
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may ingay ngayon
05:05.5
sa
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sa
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social media.
05:08.7
But by and large,
05:09.6
the Filipino has moved on.
05:11.9
And in fact,
05:12.7
we've been doing
05:13.7
surveys
05:14.4
the past
05:15.1
few quarters
05:16.1
about this very
05:17.5
question
05:18.0
tungkol sa
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ICC.
05:21.0
So,
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kung anong
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opinion nila?
05:22.1
Anong panong
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specifically?
05:24.1
Na kung sakaling
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ipa-aresto,
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magagayad sila
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parang gano'n?
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Oo,
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ang dito eh.
05:32.4
So,
05:35.1
ano ang pananaw mo
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sa nanalapit
05:38.0
na pag-aresto
05:39.3
na International Criminal Court
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or ICC
05:42.0
kay dating
05:42.9
Pangulong Duterte?
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No?
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So,
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it's not even
05:48.8
ano eh,
05:50.6
35%
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ang hindi
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sangayon eh, no?
05:55.1
Ang dami
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nung walang opinion.
05:57.1
More than majority.
05:57.8
And this was last
05:58.7
August.
05:59.9
So, we were tracking
06:01.5
and in fact,
06:02.5
by
06:02.7
next week,
06:06.1
mag-run ulit kami
06:07.1
about it,
06:08.3
makikita namin.
06:09.6
So, pag bumaba
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ng bumaba yan,
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makikita doon.
06:12.8
Kung mga
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nasa
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10-15%
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lang ang bisang
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ayon,
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eh wala na.
06:18.9
Tapos na ang boxing.
06:20.5
So, mukhang
06:21.1
ano,
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mukhang
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made up ba yan?
06:24.2
Or artificial?
06:25.2
Or even exaggerated?
06:26.8
Yung mga
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pinapalutang na
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subukan niya
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ipa-arresto si
06:30.3
Duterte
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magkakagulo?
06:33.4
I believe so, no?
06:34.6
I believe itong
06:35.4
mga
06:35.8
mga trolls
06:37.4
na mga
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mainga,
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yung mga supporters niya,
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eh nagsasuffer
06:40.9
dun sa echo chamber
06:41.9
syndrome
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na ganun na nangyari
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nung
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nung panahon ni
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Duterte,
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dun naman sa minority,
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na
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pag kayo-kayo
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yung nagkakarinigan,
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akala nyo
06:51.7
ang dami na.
06:53.1
Pero,
06:54.0
yun pala,
06:55.7
ilan lang kayo, no?
06:56.8
Kaya subukan nilang
06:57.6
magpatawag ng
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rally doon sa EDSA,
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malabo.
07:01.7
Siguro,
07:02.0
aalok-alok yan.
07:03.9
Ito palang
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nabanggit nyo, no?
07:05.6
Although,
07:06.1
this is pretty obvious naman,
07:07.3
yung panawagan ng
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civil disobedience,
07:10.0
tapos,
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si former president
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Duterte,
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bumabanat
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kay BBM,
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tapos,
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si Sarah Duterte,
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publicly,
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sinalungat si
07:18.4
BBM
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dun sa kanyang
07:20.3
planong
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pagpa-resume
07:22.9
ng official
07:23.7
ng, ano, no?
07:24.9
Peace talks with the
07:25.7
NDFP.
07:26.6
Diba, sabi niya,
07:27.3
that's an agreement
07:28.0
with the
07:28.4
devil.
07:29.2
Itong ma-action na yan,
07:30.0
ano bang basa nyo dyan?
07:31.0
Konektado ba yan doon
07:32.1
sa fear nila
07:33.2
na baka nga
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nagko-cooperate na si
07:35.3
BBM
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at ipa-aresto
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yung
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Rodrigo Duterte?
07:41.4
Ano na yan?
07:43.0
Actually,
07:44.8
afterthought na lang yan.
07:46.1
But,
07:46.5
the attacks,
07:48.0
the undermining
07:49.1
of the
07:49.8
Marcos administration
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came much
07:52.2
earlier.
07:53.8
In fact,
07:54.2
napag-usapan natin yan
07:55.3
dito sa
07:55.9
programa mo,
07:57.0
Christian,
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na,
07:58.4
nagsimula ito
07:59.9
nung
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nahuli yung
08:02.1
droga,
08:03.6
yung 990 kilos
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na na-involve
08:05.9
yung mga ilang mga
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police generals
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and colonels
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na part
08:08.9
nung dabaw group
08:10.1
ni Duterte, no?
08:11.9
Yun yung criminal
08:13.1
enterprise niya, eh.
08:14.6
Nung siya yung
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nakapuesto,
08:16.3
protektado yung
08:17.2
lahat, eh.
08:18.5
Pero, nung
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nawala na siya,
08:19.8
akala nila,
08:20.8
tuloy-tuloy lang,
08:22.1
eh,
08:23.1
hinuli sila, no?
08:24.6
So,
08:25.1
na-expose ngayon,
08:26.1
nagkakasuhan.
08:27.4
Ito, mga
08:27.8
generalists,
08:28.3
na ito ngayon,
08:28.8
sumasaklolo kay Duterte
08:30.3
kasi,
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pagka hindi niya ito
08:31.9
naproteksyonan,
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legally,
08:34.4
eh, ituturo siya nun
08:35.4
na sila may ari, no?