01:49.9
How are you doing, bro? How is your FB channel doing?
01:54.0
So kwento ko lang para sa mga hindi nakakaalam nung story.
01:57.0
December 31, New Year's Eve, pagising ko mga 12 noon, mag-open ko, wala na yung Facebook page ko.
02:04.0
This is yung Models of Manila TV.
02:06.0
Yan yung main Facebook page ko.
02:09.0
Pero yan yung pinakamalaking views eh, 200,000 views, 300,000 views.
02:14.0
Mostly with Yves Boulagat na issue and konting politika.
02:20.0
So yun yun naman yung Models of Manila TV.
02:22.0
So I've been, walang notification, walang violation, masanda ng tinanggal.
02:28.0
So usually pag ganun ang umiisip namin kaagad, natin kaagad is baka na must report and baka inoperate, may nag-operate.
02:39.0
So mahirap naman mambinta pero sa ngayon, it has been how many days?
02:44.0
One week na. January 6. Mga seven days.
02:47.0
Pero I've been following up kay Meta daily.
02:51.0
Nag-i-emailan kami pero wala pa rin hanggang ngayon.
02:56.0
Bro, can you give us a rundown no?
02:58.0
Sorry, can you give us a rundown?
03:00.0
Kasi we're here also to shed light dun sa case mo.
03:03.0
Dahil yung iba mukhang nakabalik na yung kanilang Facebook pages, itong mga bloggers, including mga controversial bloggers.
03:09.0
Pero paligan ka namin.
03:10.0
So can you give us a step-by-step account of what happened in your case?
03:14.0
Kasi we're also here.
03:15.0
Alam mo na bro, kaibigan kita eh, abroad kita eh. So this is solidarity.
03:19.0
We wanna get the message out. Medyo...
03:21.0
Bulihin natin ng itong Meta Facebook na ito. Walang iya.
03:23.0
Kaya ayusin niyo naman yung kaibigan natin dito.
03:26.0
Hindi naman ano yun eh. Hindi naman fake news yan. Hindi naman test stabilizer yan eh.
03:30.0
Kasi parang yung mga kung bakit bigla nalang mo.
03:32.0
Bakit ano eh, kung bakit namamass report?
03:34.0
Kasi ang nag-aalis sa page mo is machine eh.
03:38.0
Is algorithm eh. Robots eh. Machine eh.
03:41.0
Kung mag-a-pagkakunta niya ang daming report, siguro for safety, tinatanggal niya.
03:45.0
Kaso ang hirap ibalik, ang hirap nung proseso na ibalik, hindi ko alam saan ako lalaki.
03:51.0
Ang panigis na nakatipete doon sa kanilang Facebook page.
03:58.0
Di ba na? You spent many years building up your page.
04:01.0
Tapos bigla pagising mo, mawawala na eh. Hindi ka alam kung ano yung validation mo.
04:07.0
So ano ang nangyayari? That same day, December 31, nawala din yung page ni Maharlika sa Facebook.
04:14.0
I think walang panginagal ngayon eh. Hindi ko makita eh.
04:17.0
Tapos at two days after, nawala yung kaibigan natin.
04:19.0
I think walang panginagal ngayon eh. Hindi ko makita eh.
04:20.0
Tapos at two days after, nawala yung kaibigan natin.
04:21.0
I don't think yung account ni Sasok, nabalik na eh. A-ang nabalit palang yung kay Banagbay na page.
04:31.0
I think yung Banagbay niya na may pro-check, palang yung nababalit.
04:35.0
Ito yung Banagbay na nagbabanan sa akin kanina eh.
04:42.0
Bro, I can- Sorry, I'll continue. Can you give us an- anong daw yung basis ng pagban sa'yo eh?
04:48.0
Kasi si Maharlika, meron siyang video kung saan sinabi niya...
04:50.0
kung saan sinabi niya
04:51.0
for violation of intellectual property,
04:53.4
something like that.
04:54.2
So, in-explain niya na
04:55.8
anong intellectual property
04:57.5
yung pinagsasabi niyo.
04:58.9
So, in your case,
04:59.9
ano yung excuse ng Facebook, bro?
05:03.0
Sa kanya, may notification eh.
05:05.8
Yung sa akin, wala.
05:06.7
Pag isin ko, wala na.
05:08.8
Wala na lang page.
05:09.7
Usually, may notification yan,
05:11.3
violation, ito, ganun.
05:13.2
So, anong nangyari?
05:14.0
Nag-chat ako kay Meta.
05:16.6
Yung bubo na sinabi niya sa akin,
05:18.0
ito sa Grinch now,
05:20.3
ay magiging okay na.
05:23.3
Two days, nag-pass, wala pa rin.
05:24.8
So, after mga inang days,
05:26.0
nag-chat ako ulit.
05:27.7
meron akong violation daw,
05:29.1
kaya daw in-unpublish.
05:30.4
Pero hindi clear kung ano yung violation.
05:32.4
what violation did I do?
05:34.3
Binigyan lang ako ng manual
05:35.5
ng mga violation nilang listatan.
05:39.8
mga call center operators
05:43.4
o mga nagsasagot dito
05:45.2
sa mga nagtatrouble issue.
05:46.6
Pero, hindi nalang exactong
05:48.9
magawa ng paraan yung page, eh.
05:50.9
Pero, sa atin naman,
05:52.4
kasi satagal na din natin
05:55.1
madaming case na din nangyara dito.
05:57.2
kay Rendon na must report.
05:58.8
After ilang weeks,
06:00.1
nabalit din yung sa kanya.
06:02.5
may mga ways yatang maibalik, eh.
06:04.7
talagang medyo nakaka-frustrate
06:07.3
Although, meron akong mga
06:08.3
mas maliliit na pages,
06:10.0
kung layo nung reach,
06:11.3
kung mahina pa sa algorithm
06:13.3
yung mga tackle pages ko, eh.
06:14.7
So, sayang na sayang talaga.
06:16.7
And, back to square one ako,
06:19.8
And, I really don't understand.
06:21.9
Actually, nung nawala ka
06:23.1
yung page ng tatlo,
06:24.9
parang iisipin yung mga tao,
06:26.1
parang, ano to, ah,
06:27.6
hindi ka parang masyadong,
06:31.3
parang coincidence,
06:32.2
hindi siya coincidence.
06:33.4
Baka sinadya talaga,
06:34.5
baka may tumigra talaga.
06:36.1
Ang natataka naman ako,
06:37.2
I'm not politically aligned
06:38.6
with those three.
06:40.1
Kasi yung tatlo yun,
06:41.9
the current administration.
06:45.3
medyo sumusuporta ako.
06:47.4
Hindi naman ako diehard na
06:48.9
Pero, sumusuporta ako
06:50.2
sa current admin.
06:51.2
So, hindi kami aligned politically.
06:53.2
So, hindi ko alam
06:53.7
kung nadamay lang ba yung page ko.
06:56.2
nag-take down talaga
06:57.0
or nagkataon lang.
06:58.8
O, wala ka naman,
07:00.6
hindi naman masyadong
07:01.6
political yung post mo doon,
07:03.5
Mostly entertainment,
07:04.9
itbulaga, yung mga ganon,
07:07.0
Yun yung malalaking,
07:07.9
yun yung malalaking, ano,
07:09.1
yun yung malalaking
07:11.0
So, yung mga ibang,
07:13.5
kung followers ko,
07:19.1
ng showbiz na ano,
07:20.6
wala naman akong proye,
07:22.4
We can't point fingers
07:26.0
yun ang malaking views
07:27.0
doon sa page na yun.
07:28.6
Yung mga politika ko doon,
07:29.8
masundot-sundot ako,
07:31.0
maliliit lang yung views.
07:32.1
So, it's not enough
07:34.8
di ka tulad nung tatlo
07:35.8
na nawala nung mga page.
07:40.0
ang main niya is YouTube.
07:42.3
is all over the place.
07:46.4
YouTube, Facebook.
07:47.9
ako yung mas pinakadependent
07:49.3
sa Facebook sa amin.
07:50.2
So, ako yung medyo
07:52.1
Pero, I understand kasi,
07:53.4
being in social media
07:55.4
I was always preparing
07:57.5
in case may mga mong
07:59.6
Kaya, sa YouTube,
08:00.5
I have five channels.
08:02.1
So, everything is,
08:03.4
nakaprepared naman.
08:06.9
Hindi okay yung nangyari
08:09.0
Hindi okay sa'yo.
08:09.8
Just to be honest,
08:11.6
two months na wala
08:15.7
ito yung panahon ni Tigong.
08:17.3
So, to be honest,
08:18.4
may suspicions ako
08:19.4
na maybe not necessarily
08:24.9
some mumbo-jumbo.
08:26.7
noong hindi ako nakuha
08:29.1
nilabas ko yung issue
08:29.8
kagad sa Inquirer,
08:33.1
hanggang umakit ito
08:33.9
doon sa headquarters sila
08:35.1
and nag-apologize sila
08:36.2
at explanation lang nila,
08:38.3
Pero, binash-bash ko pa rin sila
08:40.3
ang nawala sa'kin, bro.
08:41.4
Kaya alam na alam ko
08:45.4
not necessarily like you,
08:46.4
but during that time,
08:47.8
kilala ako bilang kritiko
08:49.4
ni Duterte, diba?
08:50.4
So, I just felt na
08:51.4
censorship ang nangyari.
08:52.9
And that's the reason why
08:53.8
against ako sa mga ban na ganito,
08:55.8
o sa ban at paya,
08:57.2
against ako sa ban na ganito
08:58.3
kasi feel ko may pagka-arbitrary ito.
09:00.8
And yung mga opposition
09:01.8
at liberals na tuwang-tuwang ngayon
09:03.2
sinasabi housecleaning,
09:04.7
be careful what you wish for
09:05.8
because nangyari din sa atin yan
09:10.9
as much as possible
09:11.8
unless talaga may basis na
09:13.5
you're inciting to hatred,
09:17.3
I know you very well,
09:19.7
Ikaw ang pinaka-matino sa atin lahat,
09:21.8
Ikaw ang pinaka-indibatagulan
09:23.3
at ikaw ang pinaka-diversified
09:25.9
Ako, medyo nagda-diversify na ako ngayon.
09:27.6
Medyo may mga sports,
09:30.9
ever since ganon,
09:32.3
kaya ang suspicious ko,
09:34.0
baka na-misfire ka
09:36.6
well, maybe not now,
09:37.6
but maybe back in the day,
09:39.0
yung patterns ng posting
09:40.8
o political posting ko,
09:43.2
dahil hindi masyadong critical
09:45.4
baka may misunderstanding
09:46.4
na you're part of this group.
09:48.8
Of course, I know na
09:51.0
in fairness naman,
09:51.6
I've been giving credit
09:52.5
where credit is due.
09:53.6
balance ka naman.
09:56.2
kaya na-suspicion mo
09:57.2
about something like that.
09:57.8
Anyway, I gave you a contact
09:58.8
of the head of the public policy.
10:00.8
Let's see how it goes from there.
10:02.5
Pero ang suspicion mo dito is,
10:04.4
baka na-misfire ka
10:05.5
or nilagyan ka sa maling listahan
10:07.3
or may mga hindi updated sa'yo.
10:09.6
pinapanood nila yung mga podcast nat
10:11.8
and you're a very,
10:12.8
very fair person.
10:14.4
huwag natin tanggapin na mawala yan.
10:16.2
Let's fight for this.
10:17.8
Mag-ingay-ingay tayo dito.
10:20.0
nag-ingay din ako sa TikTok,
10:22.2
nag-ingay ako sa Philippine Airlines.
10:24.4
In fairness naman,
10:25.8
medyo mag-ingay-ingay ka.
10:26.8
Eventually, they'll have to be responsive.
10:28.4
But at least we have to try, bro.
10:30.7
you work very hard.
10:32.3
So, ano pa lang ulit
10:33.8
Is this a verified page?
10:38.1
Unverified kasi yung person.
10:41.8
hindi ko na-verify.
10:43.3
So, Models of Manila TV,
10:44.9
so, lumipat ko na ako
10:45.8
sa Models of Manila FM.
10:47.9
So, that's my second page
10:49.4
na ginagamit ko ngayon
10:50.8
na ang layo ng algorithm,
10:52.0
ang layo ng reach
10:53.2
kumpara ka doon sa
10:56.8
na 260,000 followers na.
10:58.6
So, nakaka-prostrate din talaga
10:59.9
pagdating sa ganyan.
11:01.2
Sana magpagawa ng paraan
11:05.9
clear in the future
11:06.8
kung may mga violations.
11:11.0
Kasi, mas-report ako.
11:13.1
Nagkakaroon tayo ng kultura
11:14.6
ng mas-reporting.
11:15.7
So, pangit din yan eh.
11:17.7
kahit sa kaaway ko,
11:19.7
yung mas-reporting sa kanya.
11:21.7
Sana mawala na yung kultura
11:27.6
para sa social media.
11:31.3
the other angle possibly, bro,
11:33.1
is yung mga competitive sa'yo
11:34.4
dahil sa entertainment
11:37.1
At baka na mas-report ka nila
11:38.9
nung end of the year,
11:39.9
nagkaroon ng clean-up
11:41.0
itong algorithm nila.
11:42.6
Kaya, sinabay-sabay lahat
11:44.9
in whatever area.
11:46.6
So, not necessarily
11:47.7
I'm just trying to speculate
11:48.9
kasi yung timing,
11:50.6
ang lapit ng timing mo
11:52.7
Pero yung content mo naman
11:58.1
sinabayan nila lahat
11:59.1
ng mga na mas-reported, no?
12:01.0
kasi, bro, di ba?
12:02.0
I mean, let's be honest.
12:04.7
and other big issue,
12:05.8
medyo may stance ka na, di ba?
12:07.6
So, baka may na-ruffle
12:08.9
kang feathers, di ba?
12:09.9
I mean, we're just trying
12:11.4
what could be the reason
12:12.8
bakit yung algorithm
12:14.9
the way you did, di ba?
12:18.0
I was the biggest
12:19.2
yung glory last year
12:20.2
pagdating sa mga videos
12:21.6
about dun sa issue na yun.
12:22.9
Talagang per video, ha?
12:26.5
So, I don't know.
12:29.9
At least na na, no?
12:31.8
Yung konting consolidation ko.
12:34.4
kailangan pa rin natin
12:35.0
mabawi yung page.
12:36.4
O, bro, kailangan pa ba?
12:39.7
mabawi natin ito soon.
12:41.3
Mag-complain ka pa rin
12:42.2
kasi nawalan ka ng two weeks.
12:44.1
That's for gun revenues.
12:47.4
time na dapat nag-relax ka,
12:48.7
na-stress ka, bro.
12:49.7
So, parang emotional damage yun,
12:52.7
Yung parang biglang
12:53.6
kinold fit ka ng jowa mo,
12:56.5
ng biglang two weeks
12:57.5
na walang explanation, di ba?
12:59.8
ng dating, bro, eh.
13:02.0
parang jowa itong
13:03.0
social media, eh.
13:04.4
Itong buhay natin, eh.
13:05.4
Dito tayo naglalagay
13:06.3
ng pagpamahal natin.
13:07.3
So, I feel for you, brother.
13:10.7
So, si Banat lang nakapast?
13:29.0
Nakabalik yung kay Banat?
13:32.8
Kaya kay Banat naman,
13:33.7
wala namang issues.
13:34.5
Hindi ko sinasabi,
13:36.6
in fairness naman,
13:37.3
talagang YouTuber talaga siya,
13:39.3
and ang lakas naman niya
13:41.0
aside from Facebook niya,
13:42.0
is pang ano lang niya,
13:43.2
pang hanash lang niya.
13:45.7
I'm against actually ban
13:47.6
how bad that feels
13:49.7
kung hindi ka-agree
13:51.5
mag-criticize ka,
13:53.5
lahat nag-criticize eh.
13:54.6
Huwag ka lang, ano,
13:55.8
pro-destabilization na literal.
13:58.3
But I don't naman think...
14:00.4
is gonna shut you down
14:01.3
based on those reasons,
14:02.1
they have to give you
14:04.2
talagang ma-ebidensya.
14:06.2
kunyari sa copyright,
14:10.9
vague na walang basean,
14:14.6
kasi parang hindi klaro sa'yo.
14:16.4
Ano ba talaga nangyayari sa'yo?
14:18.2
eto, na mas-report ka ba?
14:21.3
tama yung sinabi mo, bro, eh.
14:22.9
Dapat magprotektaan
14:24.0
ng content creators
14:24.9
dun sa harassment
14:25.7
ng mas-report eh.
14:26.7
Kasi pwede maging basean niya
14:28.1
na mag-censor ka na lang
14:30.2
ma-mas-report ka.
14:35.4
There has to be a better way
14:38.1
to address complaints, di ba?
14:43.3
baka pwede mag-email na lang
14:45.1
sa office nila dito
14:47.7
Sila na mag-design
14:49.6
harmful na to people
14:51.3
or masama na yung ginagawa
14:57.3
yun ang nangyayari.
14:58.4
Habang nagkakakulo
14:59.3
yung mga influencers
15:02.8
Next episode na yan.
15:04.1
Pero itong episode
15:05.0
sa'yo lang talaga yan, bro.
15:07.6
malapit ka sa puso ko
15:10.5
I feel what you're feeling
15:11.6
because I also went through that
15:12.8
and actually for me,
15:14.6
matagal naman sinasabi
15:15.5
ni Marie Reza yan.
15:16.4
You don't have to agree
15:17.1
with Rappler and Marie Reza
15:20.1
but she has been raising
15:21.8
lack of accountability
15:30.9
into building our audience,
15:32.6
building our content.
15:34.3
mukhang madali lang.
15:35.0
Nagpapakiyot lang kami, bro.
15:36.4
Pero buhay namin yan.
15:40.3
I can vouch for him.
15:41.2
He really, really works hard.
15:42.4
He's concentrating
15:44.8
masakit talaga yung feeling.
15:46.4
I'm happy that you still have
15:48.3
You're very strong there
15:49.2
and other places.
15:50.6
Pero hindi pa rin, eh.
15:51.7
Hindi pa rin okay
15:52.4
yung nangyari sa'yo, bro.
15:55.0
mag-iingay ako bukas ulit
15:57.8
Ay, bukas is Sunday, sir.
15:59.3
Awayan natin ulit.
16:00.9
Kasi kahit mabalik yun sa'yo, bro,
16:02.4
mali pa rin yung ginawa nila sa'yo.
16:03.8
Mali talaga yun, eh.
16:07.7
Walang, walang notification.
16:11.2
Nagising mo na lang.
16:12.5
Wala na lang ka agad.
16:16.8
first week of the year.
16:18.3
Parang rollercoaster
16:23.2
ka-first week ng 2024.
16:25.6
Pero God willing,
16:27.7
maayos natin yan, bro.
16:30.1
Don't worry about it.
16:30.8
I-raise ko yung issue na yan.
16:32.3
may mga contacts naman tayo.
16:35.2
Dapat hindi na maulit ito, eh.
16:36.6
Sana maayos yung saya soon.
16:39.4
ayusin na nila yung sistema nila
16:43.5
napaka tinong tao yan.
16:44.7
Napaka disyento yung vlogger yan.
16:47.0
parang kahit naiinis ako sa kanya nila,
16:48.5
I still believe na they don't deserve to be banned.
16:50.5
At hindi tama yan.
16:51.3
Kahit akala ni Bannat
16:52.6
ba'y nilalait ko siya.
16:57.8
Lumpi ka lang yun.
16:59.7
Thank you so much.
17:00.6
Thank you so much.
17:00.8
Do you have any message to say
17:02.2
before we close this episode
17:05.3
Medyo traumatic din sa akin yun
17:07.0
kasi nangalala ko rin
17:07.9
what I have to go through.
17:09.1
gawin to yung nagiging experience.
17:11.1
na nagiging experience ko ngayon.
17:13.8
yung mga viewers ko
17:14.9
pag naglalain ako
17:15.7
tsaka nagpuposa ko ng video
17:16.8
sa model sa pagtinilatid
17:18.9
na nanonotify sila
17:20.3
pag naglalain ako
17:22.2
na lumadabas sa feed nila
17:23.9
Ay, nag-hi si Bannat ba'y.
17:26.7
Bro, ano ka ba naman?
17:30.2
Ayan na si Bannat ba'y.
17:34.6
Pasalubong naman.
17:35.4
Uy, pasalubong naman
17:37.4
Ano mang kunis natin?
17:42.5
Uy, mag-ano pa tayo?
17:45.4
Magdidebate pa tayo.
17:47.9
Buti nga nakabalut nga si Bannat.
17:50.3
Magkabalik, magkabalik, eh.
17:52.8
Kaya huwag na kayo
18:00.8
mag-picture ni Byron masyado.
18:02.6
Parati ka kasi ngayon
18:04.0
Tapos pansin ko, Mark,
18:05.0
every time yung may post ka.
18:06.2
Pansin ko, every time
18:15.7
kasama tayong dalawa,
18:16.9
magka-comment si Byron.
18:21.7
Ayun ako, ayun ako.
18:23.3
Ayun, baka dinilite ko naman.
18:25.1
Idahan natin sa boteng.
18:29.9
dahil tinext na lang
18:31.5
Tsaka yung dinilite ko naman,
18:32.5
actually, hindi siya controversial.
18:34.1
Sabi ko, baka mag-away-away na.
18:35.6
Eh, kasi nagkakomment ang tao
18:36.8
nung may pinosta ko na chill lang.
18:39.7
awayin pa si Bannat ba'y.
18:42.7
idelete ko na lang yan.
18:44.1
Pero under record ako na
18:45.2
against talaga ako sa banning na yan.
18:46.6
Kasi lahat tayo na traumatized.
18:47.9
Kasi hindi naman tama yung gano'n.
18:51.6
alam mo yung feeling na parang
18:53.8
diglang iwanan ka,
18:54.9
tapos walang reason,
18:55.9
walang explanation,
18:59.5
Parang double kill yung feeling na gano'n.
19:02.8
parang jowa natin to eh.
19:04.6
Kung refresh ka na refresh,
19:06.9
refresh ka na refresh,
19:08.3
ginaan mo kung babali,
19:09.6
yun ang stressful
19:10.8
yung mga unang araw talaga natin.
19:14.1
Dapat ginagawa mo yung ginagawa ni Bannat ba'y.
19:16.5
Nag-Japan-Japan ka na lang.
19:17.9
Nag-sagot sa ano?
19:19.3
Hindi na siya pa sa Japan eh.
19:21.4
at least makasron siya.
19:22.8
Kaya rin lang sell lang siya doon.
19:24.9
Kaya nga parang yung video ni Bannat ba'y,
19:28.0
nagre-reklamo siya sa'kin.
19:29.7
Pero parang happy naman niya.
19:31.0
Ang ganda nung likod niya.
19:32.2
Parang nag-flex lang siya.
19:34.0
Alam mo yung nangyayari.
19:34.9
Alam mo yung nga.
19:38.3
mag-debate tayo ulit.
19:39.7
Yung bagong Facebook page ko,
19:41.9
Models of Manila FM.
19:43.2
So yun yung temporary na ginagamit ko
19:45.9
we try to recover yung
19:48.2
Models of Manila TV.
19:53.2
for the purpose of our
19:55.9
except si Bannat ba'y,
19:58.3
where can people follow you?
20:00.1
Ano yung mga places na they can follow you
20:01.9
and what kind of content
20:02.9
they can expect from you?
20:06.6
active lang ako sa
20:07.5
Models of Manila FM na page.
20:11.1
tatlo yung active ako.
20:12.8
Models of Manila FM na page.
20:13.2
Models of Manila TV,
20:14.3
which is yung politics.
20:15.7
Models of Manila Sports,
20:19.0
Models of Manila FM,
20:20.5
which is yung mga
20:21.1
equal and hot showbiz content.
20:23.1
So yung tatlong yun,
20:24.7
So kung meron nung kailangan
20:27.2
Doon na lang sa YouTube
20:28.1
ng mga channel na yun.
20:29.8
So doon ko yung na-announce
20:31.6
kapag meron palita.
20:33.9
That's where they can nalang.
20:35.8
Models of Manila.
20:38.7
Thank you, brother.
20:39.6
Alam ko yung Twitter,
20:40.2
mag-blue check yan.
20:44.5
walang yan ban at buy na to.
20:45.9
Minamarites pa tayong dalawa
20:47.2
na ako daw yung salita na salita.
20:49.0
kasi kami yung nag-aaway,
20:50.8
Ikaw yung nga yung
20:51.4
nagpapaawat sa amin.
20:52.7
Sabi, walang yan to.
20:54.1
Minamarites pa kaming
20:56.5
Parang nag-announce
21:00.3
De, pero in fairness,
21:03.7
one of our most engaging
21:05.9
vlogs last year together.
21:08.8
Given na yung views
21:09.8
mataas, of course,
21:11.2
kasi itong si Banat pay.
21:12.3
Ako yung sinasabing mayabang,
21:13.3
mas mayabang siya sa akin.
21:15.4
in terms of content,
21:17.6
in terms of content,
21:21.0
ayaw kong magyabang,
21:22.5
pero I think no one has done
21:23.6
what we have done.
21:25.5
from completely different side,
21:27.1
batis si Moca Uso
21:33.2
from completely different side,
21:34.5
umupo, chill lang.
21:36.2
passionate yung debate,
21:37.4
at the end of the day,
21:38.5
Yun ang gusto natin mangyari,
21:39.8
na ayaw ko kasi bro
21:41.1
yung cancel culture, eh.
21:43.0
huwag na i-platform yan.
21:44.2
Alam ko ginagawa rin
21:45.0
sa kapila sa atin yan.
21:46.6
So, I really appreciate
21:47.8
yung nagawa natin
21:48.6
last year with si Banat.
21:53.7
yung sinabi niya.
21:57.4
we have to have more of that.
21:59.5
normalize natin yan.
22:03.0
So, thank you so much,
22:08.5
And, God willing,
22:09.6
maayos din yung page mo.
22:13.0
O, ride soon, sir.
22:20.7
inaaway nyo naman.
22:25.5
nagko-comment sa akin dito.
22:27.5
Mga kasaysayan na araw ito.
22:31.0
sinabi ko on the record,
22:32.0
against ako dun sa banning
22:35.6
alam ko gano'ng katraumatik na yan.
22:37.6
Even if sobrang disagree ako
22:39.0
sa kanila sa maraming issues.
22:41.2
Pero, in fairness naman,
22:43.2
hindi ko sinasabi
22:43.8
dahil nasa Baguio ako, ha.
22:46.1
kay Mayor Magalong,
22:48.5
on the same page tayo,
22:50.3
Oy, Banat, ba, eh.
22:53.0
gusto natin si Mayor
22:54.0
ang digitize tayo sa Baguio.
22:55.4
Okay, thank you very much, bro.
22:56.4
Let's go to the next topic
22:57.6
na mas controversial.
22:59.1
Pag-usapan natin sila,
23:00.8
at siyang maawayan
23:02.2
Ako, pinabantayan na ako,
23:08.7
Let's go, let's go.
23:12.5
Ibi-video nila yung pangit ko.
23:15.2
ang angle natin dito.
23:22.9
Ito na, ito na, ito na, ito na.
23:26.5
Let's go to this issue.
23:30.5
have been anticipating
23:31.4
tensions dito sa Unity
23:33.5
and the eventual,
23:35.2
well, disintegration,
23:36.4
whatever you want to call it,
23:37.6
disentanglement of Unity.
23:39.3
pina-follow natin,
23:41.2
hindi lang si Banat, ba,
23:42.5
hindi lang mga usual
23:44.4
pati yung mga ibang
23:46.5
na hindi kasing major
23:47.4
vlogger nila Banat, ba.
23:48.5
You have been following them
23:49.3
at nakikita natin
23:50.0
nung election pa lang
23:50.9
kasi si Banat, ba,
23:51.7
I think isko siya, diba?
23:54.2
support necessarily Unity.
23:57.0
may mga fault na.
23:57.8
I think Mocha also
23:58.6
supported isko, diba?
24:00.7
nakita ko na may mga
24:01.6
fault lines tayo dyan.
24:05.4
all out, ano na, no?
24:08.2
ibang major vloggers dyan.
24:10.5
nag-share-share lang ako
24:12.2
Ang kanilang pagpagpwento,
24:15.0
Let's proceed, Richard,
24:15.7
dito sa Civil War
24:17.1
ng mga influencers
24:20.2
at jukebox influencers, eh.
24:22.1
Masakan din natin.
24:23.2
Pero may tanong muna ako
24:27.0
Kasi ito yung major issue
24:28.7
ng mga influencers,
24:30.5
Yung bang ICC talagang
24:31.6
nag-iimbestigan na dito?
24:33.7
What's the real deal
24:35.9
Kasi may chance ba talaga
24:37.7
na ma-arrest doon?
24:38.8
Nandito na ba talaga?
24:40.7
sitwasyon ngayon?
24:41.6
Kasi doon ang route
24:44.1
influencer na camps, eh.
24:49.2
yung sila, Banat,
24:50.7
nung panahon pa lang
24:51.4
na-election, alam natin
24:52.3
na medyo lumayan sila
24:54.2
Kasi unity mo yung iba.
24:55.4
So, mukhang tama yung
24:56.4
hindi ko sinasabi
24:57.3
dahil nag-follow sila
24:59.6
but parang na-sense sila
25:01.7
may hindi sustainable.
25:02.8
So, wala siguro silang tiwala
25:03.9
kay BBM, et cetera.
25:06.5
nagsimula talaga itong
25:08.3
na nakita natin ngayon
25:10.8
Naalala ko nung time
25:13.1
nag-announce nung
25:16.3
Cooperation Agreement.
25:17.4
Yung dalawang major blogger
25:18.5
dyan ay nag-away.
25:22.8
international relations
25:24.7
marami siyang sinabi na
25:26.0
the usual Duterte line.
25:28.3
Pero yung kabila naman,
25:29.2
parang sinabi niya,
25:30.7
siya ay may access
25:31.6
doon sa information
25:32.5
dahil malapit siya
25:33.4
sa administration.
25:34.3
So, doon palang nakita ko
25:36.1
nagkaroon ng fault line.
25:37.6
At lumala at lumala ito
25:39.1
dahil si Digong mismo
25:40.1
ay sumali din sila
25:42.1
Diba, si President Duterte
25:43.1
himself went to China
25:44.2
to criticize BBM.
25:45.7
Pero tama ka, Mark.
25:47.1
I think it's the ICC
25:48.5
which could be the
25:53.7
the camel of unity
25:56.2
ibang masapan na ito.
26:02.1
may podcast din pala
26:03.7
Si Harry Roque, no?
26:08.1
na may investigators
26:12.4
hindi lang si Digong
26:13.8
pero even si Sarah
26:15.6
sa investigation,
26:21.4
pero pwede mangyaring gulo yan.
26:22.9
that just tells you
26:24.2
na may awareness na dito
26:25.6
sa investigation.
26:29.5
if I'm not mistaken,
26:30.6
si Solicitor General
26:31.7
na from dating administration,
26:33.6
dating Justice Secretary
26:35.6
parang sinabi niya
26:38.8
they're still against
26:41.3
they do not accept
26:42.5
this jurisdiction
26:44.0
which is something
26:45.1
that ICC doesn't agree
26:48.2
that we have jurisdiction
26:49.6
because you were not able
26:52.0
what you were supposed
26:55.6
even if sabi natin 6,000
26:58.7
parang ilan lang bang
26:59.6
na-investigate na mabuti,
27:01.2
ilan lang bang na kulong.
27:03.6
sobrang laki nung
27:04.5
disproportionality doon.
27:10.2
if I'm not mistaken,
27:12.0
pero we're not gonna stop them
27:13.3
if they wanna come here
27:15.3
isisend ko yung link sa'yo.
27:16.9
late November, bro.
27:20.8
probably they have been here
27:21.8
for a month already.
27:23.8
Or at least few weeks
27:27.0
it's not like wala naman silang
27:28.4
investigations dati.
27:30.4
kasi may preliminary na naman
27:31.7
na yan ang investigation.
27:32.9
ito talaga fact-finding.
27:38.3
pwede embedded, bro.
27:41.8
Ang dami naman puti.
27:42.8
Ang dami naman puti dyan.
27:46.9
dun sa forces natin.
27:48.8
Pwede pasimple lang sila.
27:53.4
na i-investigate nila
27:54.5
ay napaka-sensitive cases.
28:00.1
meron din silang,
28:00.8
hindi naman James Bond level,
28:02.2
pero may mga protocols din sila
28:04.8
yung investigators sila
28:05.8
can do it in a subtle way
28:09.8
to be put in trouble.
28:12.0
So, I'm sure they have
28:13.6
to deal with that.
28:15.1
So, ang question lang dito is,
28:18.6
logistical coordination
28:19.9
with the administration?
28:23.1
because as many sila
28:24.7
to give them a sense
28:25.7
of security and all.
28:27.1
hindi naman siguro
28:28.1
yung ICC papasok dito
28:29.3
na barang-bara lang.
28:31.0
they wanna make sure
28:31.9
that there's a basic level
28:35.7
even if officially
28:36.5
yung position ng administration
28:37.5
is hindi sila sangayang.
28:39.4
But I think that's why
28:40.2
disagree ako kay Ronald Llamas
28:42.6
nung bumalik si PBM
28:45.8
biglang iba yung inip
28:50.2
yung jurisdiction na yan.
28:51.2
So, I think that was
28:52.3
a de facto recognition
28:54.2
na something may have
29:01.7
marunong din naman sila
29:04.3
At alam din natin
29:06.3
intervention sila
29:08.4
dun sa mga political
29:09.9
So, I'll give you an example.
29:12.1
na napaka-mainit na issue
29:14.7
Wala pang isang taon,
29:16.1
may warrant of arrest
29:18.9
Ang bilis, di ba?
29:20.2
Kaya, nung interview natin
29:21.4
si Atty. Carranza,
29:22.9
parang nainis siya.
29:27.6
ang mga Ukrainians.
29:29.3
Pero, sa ibang bansa,
29:33.7
tinitignan din niya
29:34.4
yung mga political conditions.
29:36.4
Dun kasi sa case ni Putin,
29:37.8
dahil andami galit
29:39.6
and nasa West yung ICC.
29:41.3
Siguro, feeling niya
29:45.4
But, dito sa Pilipinas,
29:48.5
until lumambot yung position
29:50.0
ng bagong administration.
29:51.2
And perhaps, they're there.
29:52.1
So, what I'm saying here is,
29:54.7
technically speaking,
29:56.7
this warrants of arrest
29:58.3
could come anytime this year.
30:01.0
But, politically speaking,
30:02.9
there's a midterm elections
30:07.8
before midterm elections
30:08.9
or after midterm elections?
30:10.2
Because, para sa akin,
30:12.1
before midterm elections,
30:13.8
ito yung magiging rallying cry
30:15.2
ng mga Duterte camp.
30:17.4
inaapin nyo kami.
30:18.5
Nagdadamay kayo ng internet.
30:20.0
So, this could actually galvanize
30:21.8
the Digong supporters.
30:25.1
politically speaking for BBM,
30:27.0
it's better this happens
30:28.9
na kung panalong-panalong na sila
30:30.7
kasi if happens before,
30:32.2
baka mag-backfire ito.
30:33.3
So, yun din yung tinitignan
30:34.8
kung aspect nila.
30:35.7
But, because there would be
30:36.4
up to one or two arrests
30:38.4
after the midterms
30:39.7
na si Duterte senator
30:42.7
Yeah, but being a senator
30:43.9
doesn't give you immunity.
30:45.5
It doesn't give you immunity.
30:46.4
Kaya nga, si Batu de la Rosa,
30:48.5
was warned not to go abroad
30:51.8
Kasi, it doesn't give.
30:53.2
Ang may immunity lang, bro,
30:54.3
is the president.
30:55.7
Sovereign immunity.
30:56.7
Kasi the president represents
30:59.5
So, hindi mo pwede kasuhan
31:01.2
unless this is an ICG case.
31:02.9
Ibang usapan na yan.
31:04.1
So, because ICC is against individuals,
31:06.3
and then kung presidente ka,
31:07.4
you represent the state,
31:08.5
meron kang tinitawag
31:09.1
ng sovereign immunity.
31:10.4
Kaya nga, si BBM,
31:11.7
wala siyang problema
31:12.4
kahit may mga kaso sila sa US
31:14.0
because he has sovereign immunity
31:15.6
so long as he's the president.
31:17.0
But, Senate doesn't give you.
31:18.5
But, I think if President Duterte
31:21.1
tops the Senate race,
31:22.2
gets, I don't know,
31:22.7
20 million votes,
31:23.6
30 million votes,
31:24.9
that could present you
31:26.0
some political complications.
31:28.4
So, then it goes down, bro,
31:30.1
to risk appetite ni BBM.
31:32.7
How much risk BBM is willing to take
31:35.2
and how much kampante siya
31:37.0
na if they go for jugular,
31:39.3
they can pull it off.
31:40.5
Now, I don't know
31:41.1
what's the conversation
31:41.8
behind the scenes,
31:44.0
I do not agree na si BBM
31:46.7
may conflict avoidan forever.
31:48.5
But, I know at the same time
31:49.7
that BBM is a very calculated risk guy.
31:52.8
So, unless sigurado siya
31:53.8
na they can contain the situation,
31:55.7
I don't think he'll go for quote.
31:58.1
they'll first issue warrants of arrest
31:59.7
against lower levels
32:00.9
and then go up slowly.
32:03.3
So, there are many ways
32:04.6
na pwede niya na lutuin
32:05.5
itong ulam na ito eh.
32:06.9
But, going back to this, bro,
32:08.4
hindi pala kasabay-sabay,
32:10.2
kaso pag win yung arrest
32:11.3
lower levels muna,
32:12.8
magpag-fortify na yung
32:14.8
magpapaguna yung mga malalaki.
32:16.9
ang daming palang mga considerations
32:19.1
Ang daming considerations.
32:20.5
Nakikita mo ngayon eh.
32:21.3
Parang every move may risk eh.
32:23.7
Every move pwede mag-backfire.
32:25.5
So, are you gonna go right away
32:27.0
and try to end the story?
32:28.9
Or, are you gonna go slowly?
32:30.4
Or, are you gonna use it
32:32.6
na pang-trip lang
32:34.3
pero hindi mo gagawin yan
32:35.8
for the foreseeable future?
32:37.0
So, I don't know, bro.
32:39.3
hindi rin madaling position ng BBM
32:40.8
kasi this is a very complicated issue.
32:42.4
But, I'll tell you one last thing
32:43.6
before I go back to you, bro.
32:45.3
It's also possible
32:46.9
Western countries
32:49.0
ay nag-pupush din sa kanya
32:52.1
on the ICC issue.
32:53.1
And, if I'm not mistaken,
32:54.7
but it's an issue
32:55.3
ni Leila de Lima,
32:58.1
may konting nudge.
33:01.0
yung mga Western countries,
33:02.6
may domestic audience sila.
33:04.2
Ang domestic audience
33:07.0
Di ba may kaso to?
33:08.3
Di ba ayon nyo sa Marcos that?
33:10.2
napaka-friend din nyo?
33:11.6
alam natin dahil sa China yan.
33:14.4
BBM has to give them something.
33:17.3
is part of some negotiations
33:19.1
behind the scenes
33:19.8
also with the Western powers
33:24.3
but he's a good guy.
33:25.7
See, he's good with ICC.
33:27.0
He's good with de Lima.
33:28.7
that dynamic, bro,
33:29.6
na we have to take
33:30.3
into consideration.
33:33.0
So, yung pinag-uusapan natin
33:35.6
about the influencers,
33:36.6
itong buong issue
33:38.3
at syempre yung SML9,
33:42.1
ito starting to split na.
33:43.5
Nararamdaman ko na
33:44.5
sa mga unit team,
33:47.4
na kailangan na nilang
33:49.4
You have to choose.
33:52.8
with the administration
34:00.3
sasama ka ba kay Sarah?
34:01.5
Will you be joining
34:02.2
the opposition na?
34:05.2
for it's not December,
34:07.3
Chris Locke's party
34:11.4
So, yung mga vloggers
34:12.5
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
34:24.4
siya yung nagsalita
34:25.2
sa aming mga vloggers.
34:29.3
akala ko ako lang
34:30.2
yung medyo mayano.
34:35.8
nung event na yun.
34:36.8
In-invite yung mga vloggers.
34:38.5
Pero the thing is,
34:39.9
sa mga kasama ko,
34:41.4
na itong mga kasama ko,
34:51.2
kasi wala din doon.
34:56.2
top BBS na vloggers.
34:59.2
kung ano man nang tingin na
35:01.0
wala nang sumisasabi niya
35:01.9
sa loyalty kay Tico.
35:07.5
Tinitroll ni Banadbay
35:08.6
mga followers ko dito.
35:10.1
Alam niya talaga.
35:13.9
ng mga followers mo?
35:15.3
sabi niya nga nga daw.
35:16.4
Mga followers ko.
35:17.7
Huwag ka magulong
35:18.9
sa itong topic na to.
35:21.3
Tinitroll niya yung
35:21.9
mga followers ko.
35:22.9
Sinama niya pa si Mocha.
35:25.3
marunang ka ba mag-bike?
35:26.6
Magpaturo tayo kay Mocha.
35:28.6
Mag-bike yung mind.
35:42.0
yata ang pinakamalaki
35:47.4
yung pinakamalaki
35:47.9
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.1
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.2
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.4
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.5
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.6
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.7
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.9
yung pinakamalaki
35:49.0
Pero nawala ba yung page niya dati?
35:50.7
Bakit Buljack TV na?
35:52.9
iseparate ba yung Buljack TV?
35:55.7
minsan kahit yung ginawa wala,
35:56.8
naging demonetize.
36:00.5
your page is still there,
36:01.7
your videos are still there.
36:03.3
Pero di ka pwede kumihita.
36:05.4
you create ang yung page,
36:07.0
tapos i-share ka na lang
36:08.1
yung malaking page.
36:09.4
because nandun pa rin
36:10.6
yung malaking page,
36:11.3
yung algorithm nun eh.
36:12.8
nagkakatulungan pa rin yung ginawa.
36:14.7
that's a different issue
36:15.9
yung pang nade-demonetize.
36:17.3
I think baka na-demonetize
36:18.4
yung pag-demonetize.
36:20.1
Pumuha siya ng bago,
36:21.2
i-share lang nga dun sa
36:25.3
yun ang strength ng DDS,
36:27.9
talagang malakas sila.
36:30.7
Pag ina-uppy si Sarah,
36:31.8
ina-uppy si Bigong.
36:33.8
restaurant si Bigong,
36:35.4
restaurant si Kukuloy,
36:38.5
nagagalit yung mga DDS.
36:40.6
sumisiba yung kanilang views.
36:43.5
malakas talagang DDS online.
36:45.2
I don't underestimate them.
36:47.7
parang ang malakas lang
36:48.6
na pro-BBM na vlogger,
36:50.2
parang si Pipi lang,
36:56.2
Do you still consider him
36:58.8
Hindi siya active,
37:00.4
Siya yung ina-away ngayon,
37:07.8
alam mo nyo naman,
37:08.9
Ka-orgmate ko si Pipi
37:11.0
sa Debate Society
37:12.6
I know him from back in the day.
37:15.2
Mataling yung tao,
37:16.1
nataling yung tao.
37:17.3
Ina-attack na siya
37:20.2
he's not a Marcos vlogger,
37:25.3
Kung kailan nanalo yung
37:27.1
sinusuportahan nilang kandidato,
37:29.2
The likes of like,
37:33.0
yung mga gano'n yung makaiingay
37:35.0
kung kailan nanalo na,
37:36.4
who would expect na?
37:46.0
yung masasabi mong malalakas
37:47.4
ng pro-Marcos vloggers.
37:59.3
Mayroon yung this.
38:00.4
Nasa Thailand yun,
38:04.6
He's a good friend din.
38:05.8
He's a good friend.
38:06.5
Kaya pala nababan ka.
38:08.2
Tignan mo yung mga friends mo.
38:12.7
nag-vlogger ka pa sa Malacanang.
38:17.0
bababan ka talaga,
38:23.5
nag-gumawa siya yung video.
38:27.9
tatlong cheese mix.
38:29.7
The first one is showbiz related.
38:32.1
The second one is,
38:33.7
may aarestuhin pastor.
38:35.4
The third one is,
38:37.2
pataas na government official.
38:42.6
itong mga hindi naman political vloggers,
38:44.8
parang nakikisali na sa conversation.
38:47.7
Right, right, right.
38:49.7
Hindi nasisiyan yan.
38:50.7
Siya yung well-known.
38:52.1
Mas kisilan doon.
38:53.9
you start to see.
38:55.3
bakit parang nagiging anti-Guterte si Rendon?
38:58.9
si Makagago sa YouTube,
39:02.1
malakas din noon.
39:03.6
Yung kanyang TikTok is now anti-Guterte.
39:13.8
gano'n niya sinasabi.
39:18.3
inaapos sa kanong itong mga ko,
39:20.1
na baka daw bayad,
39:21.8
baka daw tumapanggap.
39:23.7
Inaapos saan sila?
39:24.9
hindi sila Banat ba eh.
39:25.8
Alam niya yan siya.
39:26.9
Sa kanya ko nakuha yung term na
39:28.5
jukebox vloggers.
39:30.8
tanong ko lang sa'yo,
39:32.1
hindi ko lang handang pa si Banat and Mocha,
39:35.0
si Banat and Mocha,
39:35.9
hindi pro-Sara eh.
39:38.7
Parang yun ang tinitin.
39:39.3
So, iba rin sila eh.
39:40.7
Hindi sila yung all-out
39:41.7
sa Sara and Digong eh.
39:43.8
parang sisasot lang bang gano'n?
39:47.7
Iba yung inyong slice dyan eh.
39:50.2
parang nasag sila lang yung
39:51.3
hindi exactly pro-Sara eh,
39:53.1
na prominenteng vlogger.
39:56.1
sumusuporta kay Sara.
39:57.2
Kung ano yung sumusuporta nila sa tatay,
39:58.8
hindi yung sumusuporta sa sana.
40:02.7
When push comes to shove,
40:04.6
tingin ko sila Banat ba eh.
40:06.2
doon teltik pa rin yan.
40:08.1
supporting Sara means
40:11.4
that she could defend her dad,
40:13.2
I think sila Banat ba eh
40:14.2
will come around then.
40:16.5
gano'n natingin ko dyan.
40:19.3
mga huling elections,
40:21.3
hindi sila pro-Sara.
40:23.4
sila Banat ba eh,
40:23.9
talagang pro hindi ko na talaga.
40:25.4
Talagang up to the very end.
40:26.9
mapapalaban talaga sila
40:29.4
yung mga sinasabi natin
40:31.5
grabe tong ICC na to,
40:33.5
medyo mainit-init to.
40:35.0
even if hindi mangyari
40:36.0
yung warrant of arrest,
40:37.3
even if there's a slight move
40:39.4
or slight official recognition
40:41.9
and they're doing investigation,
40:44.7
Especially ahead of 2025.
40:46.6
kung ikaw DDS camp,
40:47.6
gagamitin mo talaga yan
40:49.3
na kailangan natin
40:50.6
yung mga bata natin
40:52.5
existential na yan eh.
40:54.0
existential na yan.
40:55.1
I think yung Harry Roque intervention
40:59.1
I'll close this episode.
41:00.5
Let's go to the final episode.
41:01.7
Pag-usapan naman natin
41:02.6
ang pink vloggers
41:04.2
or yung mga ibang vloggers
41:05.5
who are gaining ground.
41:07.0
nag-stabilize na yung ano eh,
41:08.8
nagpapalansa na yung field,
41:10.5
This is a very different field
41:11.7
from what you entered in 2019
41:13.9
from what I entered
41:16.6
as a political analyst.
41:17.6
Thank you very much, bro.
41:27.0
na masyado tayong
41:29.3
ang pinag-usapan natin kanina
41:31.3
yung mga usual suspects
41:34.3
one of the reasons
41:35.5
our collaboration,
41:38.7
to differentiate.
41:39.5
Kasi ang problema
41:43.4
huwag mong kausapin,
41:45.0
I've dealt with Sasot,
41:46.8
I've dealt with Barnard Bile,
41:48.0
I've dealt with TP,
41:49.4
in different capacity
41:51.5
quite personally,
41:56.9
marami tayong disagreement,
41:58.3
Barnard Bile among others,
41:59.7
but medyo gets ko na,
42:02.0
they may come from
42:04.3
political persuasions,
42:06.2
pero iba silang tao,
42:07.5
There's a lot of diversity
42:08.9
to where they come from.
42:18.7
yung social media,
42:24.6
mainstream media,
42:27.2
Mainstream media.
42:32.4
sobrang imbalanced,
42:36.1
a competition there.
42:39.0
yung mga ibang bansa na eh,
42:42.1
alam mo naman ako,
42:43.5
so mga kaaway ko doon,
42:49.1
wala na akong pake
42:51.6
pagdating sa YouTube,
42:52.5
lakas-lakas ni Banat Pai,
42:53.9
doon sa Facebook,
42:55.9
was the first big one there,
42:58.0
and then Sasot came,
42:59.0
Tingin Pinoy came,
43:00.0
but it looks like,
43:01.9
medyo the field is
43:04.4
so I think the most
43:10.3
not named Richard Hedaria,
43:13.2
is Christian Esquera,
43:14.7
Christian Esquera,
43:16.2
I think he has made
43:16.9
a very good transition,
43:18.5
he's doing very well
43:24.7
meron ka pa rin yung rise
43:25.6
ng mga maraming pinks
43:27.7
na million-million
43:30.3
a little bit about that?
43:31.5
You go it for it, bro.
43:33.3
before Christian Esquera,
43:36.3
ay, sorry, sorry,
43:39.7
there is a market
43:40.7
for pink content.
43:42.7
Kung ako nag-pink
43:44.8
naging pink vlogger ako
43:46.6
siguro mas malaki
43:49.9
mas malaki yung base
43:59.6
nung nagsasimula tayo,
44:00.7
hindi ko mag-gets
44:01.3
bakit wala masyadong
44:02.6
mga pink or yellow
44:09.4
sila safety nila.
44:11.3
before Christian Esquera,
44:12.5
gusto ko lang din sabihin,
44:16.9
na yung resurgence
44:18.0
ng mga pink na vloggers,
44:22.0
at Christian Esquera.
44:29.6
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
44:30.3
I'm so sorry, yeah.
44:35.2
kasi parang traditional
44:38.7
I'm not sure if he even
44:39.9
understood yung level
44:41.1
nung influence na.
44:42.0
Yeah, you're right.
44:42.7
Kasi iba pag nasa radio pa eh.
44:44.3
Yung mga small towns,
44:45.7
Pero pag yung video mo
44:47.2
nilagay mo sa online,
44:51.9
maraming magagaling
44:54.5
nagpabiral ka sa online.
45:02.2
nung tagang assassination
45:04.3
many of his followers
45:08.3
lesser known vloggers
45:13.0
si Labatang Maynila.
45:20.9
that's doing really well
45:37.0
he was just starting nun.
45:38.6
he's really blossoming na.
45:42.3
yung kanyang video
45:50.0
talagang mga sensitive topics
45:53.9
hindi ko ginagalit.
46:01.4
ito yung mga big YouTubers
46:05.4
completely different persuasions.
46:09.5
if you've checked
46:10.3
ngayong kanyang YouTube.
46:12.0
sa analytics ko, bro.
46:13.1
Kasi yung similar,
46:14.3
yung mga audience namin.
46:15.5
Similar yung mga nanonood.
46:17.4
Christian Esquera,
46:20.3
which is good din naman
46:21.1
kasi yun yung dati
46:22.2
na dami democracy,
46:23.5
Yung people exposing
46:28.4
Pero yung mga ganun,
46:29.8
si Christian Esquera,
46:33.4
galing sa mainstream kasi.
46:36.0
ang ganda ng presentation.
46:41.3
on a different level naman,
46:45.7
iba naman yung style niya.
46:49.3
Arman is also isko,
46:57.7
you went full opposition.
47:02.9
After the elections.
47:05.8
basta full opposition.
47:07.1
hindi naman exactly anti-Marcos,
47:08.4
basta full opposition
47:09.7
nung after the elections.
47:12.8
si Batang Maynila,
47:15.8
yung viewers niya,
47:17.5
for the Lenny audience.
47:18.9
I got to say that,
47:22.4
now is a really good time
47:24.1
to enter vlogging
47:27.7
the pink audience.
47:30.3
the audience is big.
47:32.2
Yung mga vloggers,
47:33.9
hindi kasing nakaminusay
47:36.5
the demand is still there.
47:39.0
Malaki yung demand
47:39.6
for pink content.
47:41.9
Ano na ba ginagawa ni Lenny?
47:43.3
Ano na ba ginagawa ni...
47:47.2
yun ang masasabi ko
47:48.2
for the opposition.
47:50.5
alaki ng opportunity.
47:53.0
di ba parang less toxic
47:54.3
na rin ang YouTube ngayon?
47:56.5
Twitter toxic pa rin,
47:59.3
yung mga nag-a-attack sa akin
48:01.4
yung mga dilawag pa nga,
48:02.6
Dami-galit din sa akin,
48:04.2
kinikwestion ko yung ginagawa
48:06.3
kinikwestion ko yung mga
48:07.1
kanina pa kulangan.
48:08.3
yung pinaka-away ko doon,
48:09.8
hindi yung mga DDS na nal,
48:10.9
kasi malakas yung mga dilawan doon, eh.
48:12.5
Sila ang inaaway ko sa Twitter,
48:16.5
Kitang-kita mo yan,
48:20.7
hindi na gano'ng,
48:22.5
I'm looking at the comments right now.
48:24.3
maganda ng YouTube,
48:25.1
hindi na gano'ng patoxic.
48:27.9
kasi nawala ng interest, eh.
48:31.6
for one and a half years,
48:33.3
nawala ng interest ng tao.
48:38.0
he's a boring president.
48:39.8
I'm not saying that as,
48:41.6
parang insult or ano,
48:42.7
yun lang talaga yung style niya.
48:45.1
Parang ibang trend sa boring,
48:47.7
unlike bigong 24-hour news cycle,
48:54.2
nagahanap ng ibang away,
48:56.1
napunta sila sa Igbo,
48:59.3
yung pinag-invite na,
49:00.3
I think ganun eh.
49:01.6
it would intensify ulit,
49:03.1
kapag yung nangyari na,
49:04.5
yung pinag-usapan natin,
49:05.4
the previous episode,
49:08.5
kung yung sa mga things,
49:11.5
open to vlogging na ganun,
49:13.8
naniniwala ka doon sa,
49:15.4
mga pinaglalaban nila Lenny,
49:18.8
mga kailangan din na-share
49:20.0
ng mga Risa vloggers,
49:23.8
pati nga si Risa rin,
49:24.8
hindi siya ganun ka-active.
49:25.9
she has a page right now,
49:27.1
I've been checking it out,
49:28.2
but you're right eh.
49:29.9
can you go ahead and give advice,
49:31.8
the same way na you convinced me
49:33.0
to be more active on social media, bro?
49:34.6
Thank you so much.
49:35.5
that's one reason na,
49:40.5
hindi ko naman concerned yung mababash ako,
49:42.1
sanay na ako mabash,
49:44.4
is it worth my time?
49:46.1
Hindi pa parang stressful yan,
49:47.6
Parang ikaw nag-explain,
49:50.0
tsaka it's worth the effort,
49:55.9
napaka-interesado na sumali.
49:57.5
Hindi kasing galing ni Banat,
49:59.7
maybe hindi kasing galing ni Mark Gamboa,
50:01.4
mag-follow na it,
50:02.1
Bulaga Developments,
50:04.0
they have something,
50:05.2
or a thing or two to share,
50:07.1
and also to make sure yung YouTube
50:08.5
and na social media,
50:09.7
may diverse yung content.
50:14.3
if you do believe,
50:15.3
if you're really passionate,
50:17.0
I saw that naman last elections
50:18.5
from the Pink Movement eh,
50:20.2
kung gano'ng kapasyonate yung mga tao nando'n.
50:22.7
Yung mga supporters na Lisa,
50:27.2
and turn it to a career
50:29.5
that will earn you more
50:31.5
than a regular job,
50:34.0
Talagang maganda.
50:35.5
kumpara nung tayo ni Digo,
50:39.8
than yung blogger.
50:41.6
Hindi kasing toxic
50:43.9
nung talagang awayan before.
50:48.6
yun ang nakikita kong kulang siguro.
50:50.6
If the opposition
50:52.1
is looking at Lisa
50:53.2
as one of the future
50:55.5
bearers of the party,
51:02.0
suguro yung audience
51:04.8
Ano ba ang standard
51:07.1
Ano ba ang standard
51:09.6
isa yung ganito, ha?
51:10.7
ire-report ko yun.
51:12.8
ako and I did isko,
51:14.8
Everything about isko.
51:16.5
Lahat mong maaway sa kanya,
51:19.6
mga projects niya,
51:21.2
lahat mong magaganda.
51:23.5
a more gumbo of her own.
51:25.6
her own more gumbo, ha?
51:29.3
Hindi, kasi bro, tama ka.
51:30.3
Sorry, again, I'm cutting it.
51:31.2
Na-excite ako sa topic ito
51:34.3
yung makabayan nyo,
51:35.4
parang meron din sila
51:36.3
maraming bagong mga
51:37.1
vloggers na interesting.
51:38.8
may mga progressive vloggers
51:41.8
yung magpaposte siya,
51:42.7
yung tatalong siya sa poste
51:43.7
ng ganyan-ganyan,
51:48.6
sobrang the best yun
51:50.1
Tapos, pag-usapan niya
51:53.5
yung mga rallies,
51:54.5
yung mga usapin talagang
51:57.3
progressive side.
51:59.7
maraming mga gen Z,
52:04.4
mga ganyan-ganyan,
52:04.8
na pumapasok dito.
52:06.6
yung medyo kulang
52:07.3
is yung center-left,
52:09.2
Or center-center.
52:11.2
liberals, marami rin eh.
52:13.0
Center-left ang kulang.
52:17.0
many people are looking
52:18.2
at traffic tool for
52:19.8
presidential candidate.
52:22.0
mga raffi-bloggers.
52:23.6
anti-raffi-bloggers.
52:26.7
May naglalaban eh.
52:29.5
if you're looking at her
52:30.4
as a future leader,
52:33.2
developing that audience
52:37.0
Kasi gano'n sa YouTube,
52:38.9
Ah, yung mga DDS,
52:40.3
yung mga painter,
52:41.3
mag-nanonood sila
52:42.8
Ano bang conflict ngayon?
52:45.5
Nagkaroon ng ganitong issue,
52:46.9
anong reaction ni Risa?
52:47.7
Anong, ay inaaway si Risa?
52:58.1
maganda din naman.
52:59.0
Yung mga, yung mga,
53:07.8
hindi gano'n ka-sustainable
53:13.4
thank you very much, Brock.
53:14.1
Medyo pinalis na.
53:15.1
Kung may naman naman
53:15.7
dito sa province,
53:16.5
medyo mabilis kami.
53:17.7
Hindi naman kami provincial
53:20.5
kailangan namin magsara
53:21.9
No, I really appreciate it.
53:22.9
Thank you so much, bro,
53:26.3
Percy Lapid being really
53:28.4
the, the pioneer here.
53:29.9
And you're right,
53:30.7
yung base na nability
53:33.0
yun yung nagsusustain
53:36.5
at may mga panindigan
53:38.5
sa buhay, et cetera.
53:39.4
So, I really appreciate it.
53:40.5
I really appreciate also
53:41.5
our collaboration.
53:43.4
collaboration natin
53:44.3
with people from the other side
53:45.6
na tinitrol tayo ngayon
53:46.7
at saka followers natin.
53:50.2
I also wish the best, bro,
53:51.4
dun sa case mo sa Facebook.
53:52.6
Itutrol natin ang Facebook
53:53.6
sa Monday onwards.
53:54.8
Sabat day na bukas.
53:55.8
So, I have to get out of the,
53:58.5
But, don't worry.
54:01.2
you didn't deserve
54:02.0
what happened to you.
54:04.0
this should be a basis
54:04.8
for us to complain
54:05.5
para ayos ayusin na nila.
54:06.8
But, alam mo naman,
54:08.9
winner ka pa rin.
54:09.7
Ang dami mo na ako
54:11.0
Idbolaga and all.
54:11.9
Mukhang tapos na yata
54:12.5
yung chapter na yan, no?
54:13.4
Paghanap ka ng bago
54:14.5
Tapos na din, eh.
54:15.3
Tapos na din yung issue.
54:19.9
Election season na ang next, eh.
54:21.3
Yun na ang next na
54:25.1
yung toxic sa buhay ko.
54:26.7
Napahinga ako na isang taon, eh.
54:29.3
Palik ka na naman.
54:33.7
thank you so much sa'yo,
54:36.6
The blogger extraordinaire.
54:38.6
Our very good friend.
54:41.4
ang success mo this year.
54:43.4
and thank you also
54:44.5
dun sa followers na.
54:45.5
We have also friends
54:47.4
Hazlin Abdulhamid
54:55.2
yung YouTube medyo mas wild, eh.
54:56.9
Pansin ko yung YouTube
54:59.9
Unlike yung Facebook
55:01.8
Medyo alam ko na.
55:06.4
Medyo nag-gets ko na
55:07.3
how to make it work, eh.
55:09.4
parang nailang ako, eh.
55:11.6
At next na gagawin natin, bro,
55:13.2
mag-TikTok live na tayo.
55:14.5
May mga nagme-message sa akin
55:16.3
mag-live ka na rin, sir,
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dito para makita ka namin.
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So, in the future,
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walang internet masyado ngayon
55:24.1
kaya itong dalawa lang
55:29.5
mayayos na rin yung issue mo
55:30.5
and dadami pa rin
55:31.7
yung followers mo
55:32.4
and yung engagement mo.
55:33.5
Talk to you soon, bro.
55:39.0
Thank you very much, guys.
55:40.1
Maraming salamat.
55:41.6
kailangan namin malays
55:43.2
kasi hanggang 9.30 lang
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sa amin sa Baguio.
55:47.7
Talk to you soon.
55:48.4
And I'll post ko rin
55:49.1
yung ibang version na ito
55:49.9
para makita nyo naman
55:51.0
yung pogi natang kausap.
55:52.7
Talk to you soon.
