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DDS CIVIL WARS, “DESTABILIZATION”, & FB BAN
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00:00.0
Back for a new year, eto eto talaga, happy new year my great friend, good to see you brother, good to see you brother, of course katulad nakita mo bakang tatlo lang naglalabanan dito sa bansa pagdating sa political podcast, isang of course Christian Esguerra, isang Richard Hader, at isang Mark Gamboa and Richard Hader yan na Project Filipinas
00:24.2
So how are you doing bro? Let's talk about you this time. Oh by the way, let's talk about you more this time kasi nag-drama yata yung isang kaibigan natin dyan, si Banad Pai, hindi ko alam ano sinasabi niya, wala naman akong attack sa kanya, maybe I used the word Banad but actually, aminada naman ako, sutil ako dun sa mga ibang vloggers ng DBS but I'm not sure si Banad ang ano ko
00:52.2
but anyway, mukhang na-hurt siya
00:54.2
or something, so just to clarify, chill lang man, and then looking forward, siguro pwede natin siya kausapin ulit no, sa future Project Filipinas slash Real Talk or literally Real Talk in the future. Oh ikaw na lang kausap dun, kaibigan mo yun eh.
01:09.5
Ano naman yun, umaga pag pinapanggit ka nun, ibig sabihin, umaga parang yun ang lambing niya.
01:15.4
Ay sus, ayan naman ang lambing ni Banad Pai naman no. Ay naku, alam mo naman, gentleman ako. Nung una may pinosta ko na, hindi naman masama, maganda.
01:23.0
Sabi ko, huwag na eh, may message ko na lang directly. Gano'n naman mga gentlemen, huwag ko na i-drama online.
01:28.4
Pero, eto bro, before tayo pupunta sa DBS, well, I don't know how to call them. Yes, call it unit team civil wars no, ng vloggers.
01:36.7
Pag-uusapan natin yung kaso mo, bro, kasi the reason why I know nakabalik sa Facebook yung mga ibang DBS vloggers because eto si Banad Pai at tinatag na ako kagad and nakita ko rin yung banatan ni TP at saka ni Saz kanina.
01:49.9
How are you doing, bro? How is your FB channel doing?
01:53.0
What happened?
01:54.0
So kwento ko lang para sa mga hindi nakakaalam nung story.
01:57.0
December 31, New Year's Eve, pagising ko mga 12 noon, mag-open ko, wala na yung Facebook page ko.
02:04.0
This is yung Models of Manila TV.
02:06.0
Yan yung main Facebook page ko.
02:09.0
Pero yan yung pinakamalaking views eh, 200,000 views, 300,000 views.
02:14.0
Mostly with Yves Boulagat na issue and konting politika.
02:20.0
So yun yun naman yung Models of Manila TV.
02:22.0
So I've been, walang notification, walang violation, masanda ng tinanggal.
02:28.0
So usually pag ganun ang umiisip namin kaagad, natin kaagad is baka na must report and baka inoperate, may nag-operate.
02:39.0
So mahirap naman mambinta pero sa ngayon, it has been how many days?
02:44.0
One week na. January 6. Mga seven days.
02:47.0
Pero I've been following up kay Meta daily.
02:51.0
Nag-i-emailan kami pero wala pa rin hanggang ngayon.
02:56.0
Bro, can you give us a rundown no?
02:58.0
Sorry, can you give us a rundown?
03:00.0
Kasi we're here also to shed light dun sa case mo.
03:03.0
Dahil yung iba mukhang nakabalik na yung kanilang Facebook pages, itong mga bloggers, including mga controversial bloggers.
03:09.0
Pero paligan ka namin.
03:10.0
So can you give us a step-by-step account of what happened in your case?
03:14.0
Kasi we're also here.
03:15.0
Alam mo na bro, kaibigan kita eh, abroad kita eh. So this is solidarity.
03:19.0
We wanna get the message out. Medyo...
03:21.0
Bulihin natin ng itong Meta Facebook na ito. Walang iya.
03:23.0
Kaya ayusin niyo naman yung kaibigan natin dito.
03:26.0
Hindi naman ano yun eh. Hindi naman fake news yan. Hindi naman test stabilizer yan eh.
03:30.0
Kasi parang yung mga kung bakit bigla nalang mo.
03:32.0
Bakit ano eh, kung bakit namamass report?
03:34.0
Kasi ang nag-aalis sa page mo is machine eh.
03:38.0
Is algorithm eh. Robots eh. Machine eh.
03:41.0
Kung mag-a-pagkakunta niya ang daming report, siguro for safety, tinatanggal niya.
03:45.0
Kaso ang hirap ibalik, ang hirap nung proseso na ibalik, hindi ko alam saan ako lalaki.
03:51.0
Ang panigis na nakatipete doon sa kanilang Facebook page.
03:58.0
Di ba na? You spent many years building up your page.
04:01.0
Tapos bigla pagising mo, mawawala na eh. Hindi ka alam kung ano yung validation mo.
04:07.0
So ano ang nangyayari? That same day, December 31, nawala din yung page ni Maharlika sa Facebook.
04:14.0
I think walang panginagal ngayon eh. Hindi ko makita eh.
04:17.0
Tapos at two days after, nawala yung kaibigan natin.
04:19.0
I think walang panginagal ngayon eh. Hindi ko makita eh.
04:20.0
Tapos at two days after, nawala yung kaibigan natin.
04:21.0
I don't think yung account ni Sasok, nabalik na eh. A-ang nabalit palang yung kay Banagbay na page.
04:31.0
I think yung Banagbay niya na may pro-check, palang yung nababalit.
04:35.0
Ito yung Banagbay na nagbabanan sa akin kanina eh.
04:42.0
Bro, I can- Sorry, I'll continue. Can you give us an- anong daw yung basis ng pagban sa'yo eh?
04:48.0
Kasi si Maharlika, meron siyang video kung saan sinabi niya...
04:50.0
kung saan sinabi niya
04:51.0
for violation of intellectual property,
04:53.4
something like that.
04:54.2
So, in-explain niya na
04:55.8
anong intellectual property
04:57.5
yung pinagsasabi niyo.
04:58.9
So, in your case,
04:59.9
ano yung excuse ng Facebook, bro?
05:03.0
Sa kanya, may notification eh.
05:05.8
Yung sa akin, wala.
05:06.7
Pag isin ko, wala na.
05:08.8
Wala na lang page.
05:09.7
Usually, may notification yan,
05:11.3
violation, ito, ganun.
05:12.7
So, wala.
05:13.2
So, anong nangyari?
05:14.0
Nag-chat ako kay Meta.
05:16.6
Yung bubo na sinabi niya sa akin,
05:18.0
ito sa Grinch now,
05:18.9
after 48 hours,
05:20.3
ay magiging okay na.
05:22.3
So, ayun.
05:23.3
Two days, nag-pass, wala pa rin.
05:24.8
So, after mga inang days,
05:26.0
nag-chat ako ulit.
05:26.8
Ang sinabi,
05:27.7
meron akong violation daw,
05:29.1
kaya daw in-unpublish.
05:30.4
Pero hindi clear kung ano yung violation.
05:32.0
Kailangan ko,
05:32.4
what violation did I do?
05:34.3
Binigyan lang ako ng manual
05:35.5
ng mga violation nilang listatan.
05:38.4
So, mahirap po,
05:39.8
mga call center operators
05:43.4
o mga nagsasagot dito
05:45.2
sa mga nagtatrouble issue.
05:46.6
Pero, hindi nalang exactong
05:48.1
maka...
05:48.9
magawa ng paraan yung page, eh.
05:50.9
Pero, sa atin naman,
05:52.4
kasi satagal na din natin
05:53.4
sa industriya,
05:55.1
madaming case na din nangyara dito.
05:56.9
Parang, di ba,
05:57.2
kay Rendon na must report.
05:58.8
After ilang weeks,
06:00.1
nabalit din yung sa kanya.
06:01.7
So, di ba po,
06:02.5
may mga ways yatang maibalik, eh.
06:04.0
Pero sa ngayon,
06:04.7
talagang medyo nakaka-frustrate
06:05.9
ito na kasi.
06:07.3
Although, meron akong mga
06:08.3
mas maliliit na pages,
06:10.0
kung layo nung reach,
06:11.3
kung mahina pa sa algorithm
06:13.3
yung mga tackle pages ko, eh.
06:14.7
So, sayang na sayang talaga.
06:16.7
And, back to square one ako,
06:18.9
back to zero.
06:19.8
And, I really don't understand.
06:21.9
Actually, nung nawala ka
06:23.1
yung page ng tatlo,
06:24.5
di ba,
06:24.9
parang iisipin yung mga tao,
06:26.1
parang, ano to, ah,
06:27.6
hindi ka parang masyadong,
06:29.7
ah,
06:31.3
parang coincidence,
06:32.2
hindi siya coincidence.
06:33.4
Baka sinadya talaga,
06:34.5
baka may tumigra talaga.
06:36.1
Ang natataka naman ako,
06:37.2
I'm not politically aligned
06:38.6
with those three.
06:40.1
Kasi yung tatlo yun,
06:41.1
very anti
06:41.9
the current administration.
06:44.0
Ako naman, ah,
06:45.3
medyo sumusuporta ako.
06:47.4
Hindi naman ako diehard na
06:48.8
lawmaker.
06:48.9
Pero, sumusuporta ako
06:50.2
sa current admin.
06:51.2
So, hindi kami aligned politically.
06:53.2
So, hindi ko alam
06:53.7
kung nadamay lang ba yung page ko.
06:55.4
Kung meron bang
06:56.2
nag-take down talaga
06:57.0
or nagkataon lang.
06:58.8
O, wala ka naman,
06:59.9
di ba, at saka,
07:00.6
hindi naman masyadong
07:01.6
political yung post mo doon,
07:03.3
di ba?
07:03.5
Mostly entertainment,
07:04.9
itbulaga, yung mga ganon,
07:06.2
di ba?
07:07.0
Yun yung malalaking,
07:07.9
yun yung malalaking, ano,
07:09.1
yun yung malalaking
07:10.0
mga video.
07:11.0
So, yung mga ibang,
07:12.3
mga, ano,
07:13.5
kung followers ko,
07:14.3
sinasabi,
07:14.7
baka yung,
07:15.7
yung
07:16.6
kapilang tambo
07:17.8
doon sa issue
07:19.1
ng showbiz na ano,
07:20.0
parang sabi ko,
07:20.6
wala naman akong proye,
07:21.5
ba?
07:22.0
Di ba?
07:22.4
We can't point fingers
07:24.1
naman at ano.
07:25.2
Kasi, yun ang,
07:26.0
yun ang malaking views
07:27.0
doon sa page na yun.
07:28.6
Yung mga politika ko doon,
07:29.8
masundot-sundot ako,
07:31.0
maliliit lang yung views.
07:32.1
So, it's not enough
07:33.1
to merit
07:33.6
yung atensyon,
07:34.8
di ka tulad nung tatlo
07:35.8
na nawala nung mga page.
07:37.8
So, pero,
07:38.2
isa na thing is,
07:38.9
ang definite,
07:39.3
si Mahalika,
07:40.0
ang main niya is YouTube.
07:41.6
Si Sas naman
07:42.3
is all over the place.
07:43.7
Si Banan pa,
07:44.3
YouTube din.
07:45.0
Yung hot tech,
07:46.4
YouTube, Facebook.
07:47.2
Pero, yun nga,
07:47.9
ako yung mas pinakadependent
07:49.3
sa Facebook sa amin.
07:50.2
So, ako yung medyo
07:50.8
nakamaan talaga.
07:52.1
Pero, I understand kasi,
07:53.4
being in social media
07:54.4
for five years,
07:55.4
I was always preparing
07:56.6
contingencies
07:57.5
in case may mga mong
07:58.6
wala na page.
07:59.6
Kaya, sa YouTube,
08:00.5
I have five channels.
08:02.1
So, everything is,
08:03.2
ano,
08:03.4
nakaprepared naman.
08:04.4
Yun lang,
08:04.8
kakakase lang.
08:06.0
No, bro.
08:06.9
Hindi okay yung nangyari
08:08.5
sa'yo, bro.
08:09.0
Hindi okay sa'yo.
08:09.8
Just to be honest,
08:10.5
of course,
08:11.0
sa'kon,
08:11.6
two months na wala
08:12.4
yung page ko
08:13.2
noong 2019-2020.
08:15.2
And, of course,
08:15.7
ito yung panahon ni Tigong.
08:17.3
So, to be honest,
08:18.4
may suspicions ako
08:19.4
na maybe not necessarily
08:21.1
Facebook itself,
08:22.1
pero may mga tao
08:22.9
na doon sa loob
08:23.9
na may have done
08:24.9
some mumbo-jumbo.
08:26.0
So, noong una,
08:26.7
noong hindi ako nakuha
08:27.6
ng tamang sagot,
08:29.1
nilabas ko yung issue
08:29.8
kagad sa Inquirer,
08:31.3
sa Nikkei Asia,
08:32.2
et cetera,
08:33.1
hanggang umakit ito
08:33.9
doon sa headquarters sila
08:35.1
and nag-apologize sila
08:36.2
at explanation lang nila,
08:37.5
glitch.
08:38.3
Pero, binash-bash ko pa rin sila
08:39.6
kasi two months
08:40.3
ang nawala sa'kin, bro.
08:41.4
Kaya alam na alam ko
08:42.6
yung stress na
08:43.3
nafe-feel mo.
08:44.8
And, well,
08:45.4
not necessarily like you,
08:46.4
but during that time,
08:47.3
clearly,
08:47.8
kilala ako bilang kritiko
08:49.4
ni Duterte, diba?
08:50.4
So, I just felt na
08:51.4
censorship ang nangyari.
08:52.9
And that's the reason why
08:53.8
against ako sa mga ban na ganito,
08:55.8
o sa ban at paya,
08:57.2
against ako sa ban na ganito
08:58.3
kasi feel ko may pagka-arbitrary ito.
09:00.8
And yung mga opposition
09:01.8
at liberals na tuwang-tuwang ngayon
09:03.2
sinasabi housecleaning,
09:04.7
be careful what you wish for
09:05.8
because nangyari din sa atin yan
09:07.5
dati, ano pa,
09:08.3
noong ni Digong.
09:09.0
So, for me,
09:10.0
I'm against ban
09:10.9
as much as possible
09:11.8
unless talaga may basis na
09:13.5
you're inciting to hatred,
09:15.6
violence,
09:16.3
yung mga ganon.
09:16.9
But, bro,
09:17.3
I know you very well,
09:19.1
Duterte.
09:19.7
Ikaw ang pinaka-matino sa atin lahat,
09:21.6
diba?
09:21.8
Ikaw ang pinaka-indibatagulan
09:23.3
at ikaw ang pinaka-diversified
09:25.2
yung content.
09:25.9
Ako, medyo nagda-diversify na ako ngayon.
09:27.6
Medyo may mga sports,
09:29.2
may mga travel.
09:30.1
But, ikaw,
09:30.9
ever since ganon,
09:31.8
kaya,
09:32.3
kaya ang suspicious ko,
09:34.0
baka na-misfire ka
09:35.0
because,
09:36.6
well, maybe not now,
09:37.6
but maybe back in the day,
09:39.0
yung patterns ng posting
09:40.8
o political posting ko,
09:42.5
siguro,
09:43.2
dahil hindi masyadong critical
09:44.7
kay Digong,
09:45.4
baka may misunderstanding
09:46.4
na you're part of this group.
09:47.7
I don't know.
09:48.8
Of course, I know na
09:49.7
since BBM came,
09:51.0
in fairness naman,
09:51.6
I've been giving credit
09:52.5
where credit is due.
09:53.2
At ikaw naman,
09:53.6
balance ka naman.
09:54.4
I mean, you go,
09:55.6
siguro,
09:56.2
kaya na-suspicion mo
09:57.2
about something like that.
09:57.8
Anyway, I gave you a contact
09:58.8
of the head of the public policy.
10:00.8
Let's see how it goes from there.
10:02.5
Pero ang suspicion mo dito is,
10:04.4
baka na-misfire ka
10:05.5
or nilagyan ka sa maling listahan
10:07.3
or may mga hindi updated sa'yo.
10:08.9
Sana naman,
10:09.6
pinapanood nila yung mga podcast nat
10:11.8
and you're a very,
10:12.8
very fair person.
10:14.1
So, bro,
10:14.4
huwag natin tanggapin na mawala yan.
10:16.2
Let's fight for this.
10:17.8
Mag-ingay-ingay tayo dito.
10:19.4
Alam nyo naman,
10:20.0
nag-ingay din ako sa TikTok,
10:22.2
nag-ingay ako sa Philippine Airlines.
10:24.4
In fairness naman,
10:25.2
napansin ko,
10:25.8
medyo mag-ingay-ingay ka.
10:26.8
Eventually, they'll have to be responsive.
10:28.4
But at least we have to try, bro.
10:30.1
Kasi alam ko,
10:30.7
you work very hard.
10:32.3
So, ano pa lang ulit
10:33.1
ng page na ito?
10:33.8
Is this a verified page?
10:36.7
Hindi.
10:38.1
Unverified kasi yung person.
10:39.6
Nakaw ko.
10:40.7
Yung page,
10:41.8
hindi ko na-verify.
10:43.3
So, Models of Manila TV,
10:44.9
so, lumipat ko na ako
10:45.8
sa Models of Manila FM.
10:47.9
So, that's my second page
10:49.4
na ginagamit ko ngayon
10:50.8
na ang layo ng algorithm,
10:52.0
ang layo ng reach
10:53.2
kumpara ka doon sa
10:54.8
TV na page
10:56.8
na 260,000 followers na.
10:58.6
So, nakaka-prostrate din talaga
10:59.9
pagdating sa ganyan.
11:01.2
Sana magpagawa ng paraan
11:03.0
ng meta
11:03.4
and
11:04.3
mas makikita
11:05.9
clear in the future
11:06.8
kung may mga violations.
11:08.1
Oh, bro.
11:09.1
Yeah.
11:09.6
Mas-report ka.
11:11.0
Kasi, mas-report ako.
11:13.1
Nagkakaroon tayo ng kultura
11:14.6
ng mas-reporting.
11:15.7
So, pangit din yan eh.
11:17.1
Kahit kanino,
11:17.7
kahit sa kaaway ko,
11:19.0
I don't wish
11:19.7
yung mas-reporting sa kanya.
11:21.7
Sana mawala na yung kultura
11:23.0
ng mas-reporting
11:24.4
ng aking
11:25.4
iling
11:27.6
para sa social media.
11:29.7
Baka,
11:30.6
pero yun nga,
11:31.3
the other angle possibly, bro,
11:33.1
is yung mga competitive sa'yo
11:34.4
dahil sa entertainment
11:35.5
vlogs mo, no?
11:37.1
At baka na mas-report ka nila
11:38.5
and then,
11:38.9
nung end of the year,
11:39.9
nagkaroon ng clean-up
11:41.0
itong algorithm nila.
11:42.6
Kaya, sinabay-sabay lahat
11:43.8
ng controversial
11:44.9
in whatever area.
11:46.6
So, not necessarily
11:47.4
political.
11:47.7
I'm just trying to speculate
11:48.9
kasi yung timing,
11:50.6
ang lapit ng timing mo
11:51.8
dun sa iba.
11:52.7
Pero yung content mo naman
11:53.7
medyo iba.
11:54.4
So, baka naman,
11:55.8
dun pa
11:56.5
end ng 2023,
11:58.1
sinabayan nila lahat
11:59.1
ng mga na mas-reported, no?
12:00.4
So,
12:01.0
kasi, bro, di ba?
12:02.0
I mean, let's be honest.
12:02.7
Dun sa issue ng
12:03.7
8 pulaga
12:04.7
and other big issue,
12:05.8
medyo may stance ka na, di ba?
12:07.6
So, baka may na-ruffle
12:08.9
kang feathers, di ba?
12:09.9
I mean, we're just trying
12:10.6
to understand
12:11.4
what could be the reason
12:12.8
bakit yung algorithm
12:13.7
shut you down
12:14.9
the way you did, di ba?
12:18.0
I was the biggest
12:19.2
yung glory last year
12:20.2
pagdating sa mga videos
12:21.6
about dun sa issue na yun.
12:22.9
Talagang per video, ha?
12:23.8
But, 200,000,
12:25.1
300,000 views.
12:26.5
So, I don't know.
12:27.7
Pero, yun na.
12:29.9
At least na na, no?
12:31.8
Yung konting consolidation ko.
12:33.5
Pero, syempre,
12:34.4
kailangan pa rin natin
12:35.0
mabawi yung page.
12:36.4
O, bro, kailangan pa ba?
12:37.5
At least, ano,
12:38.5
kahit,
12:38.9
God willing,
12:39.7
mabawi natin ito soon.
12:41.3
Mag-complain ka pa rin
12:42.2
kasi nawalan ka ng two weeks.
12:44.1
That's for gun revenues.
12:45.7
And nangyari ito
12:46.4
nung holidays,
12:47.4
time na dapat nag-relax ka,
12:48.7
na-stress ka, bro.
12:49.7
So, parang emotional damage yun,
12:51.9
to be honest.
12:52.7
Yung parang biglang
12:53.6
kinold fit ka ng jowa mo,
12:55.9
parang iniwan ka
12:56.5
ng biglang two weeks
12:57.5
na walang explanation, di ba?
12:59.2
Parang gano'n
12:59.8
ng dating, bro, eh.
13:00.8
I know.
13:01.4
For you and me,
13:02.0
parang jowa itong
13:03.0
social media, eh.
13:04.4
Itong buhay natin, eh.
13:05.4
Dito tayo naglalagay
13:06.3
ng pagpamahal natin.
13:07.3
So, I feel for you, brother.
13:09.1
And I hope...
13:10.7
So, si Banat lang nakapast?
13:29.0
Nakabalik yung kay Banat?
13:32.8
Kaya kay Banat naman,
13:33.7
wala namang issues.
13:34.5
Hindi ko sinasabi,
13:35.3
Rahel.
13:35.6
No, I mean,
13:36.6
in fairness naman,
13:37.1
I think,
13:37.3
talagang YouTuber talaga siya,
13:39.3
and ang lakas naman niya
13:40.4
sa YouTube,
13:41.0
aside from Facebook niya,
13:42.0
is pang ano lang niya,
13:43.2
pang hanash lang niya.
13:44.6
But, yun nga,
13:45.7
I'm against actually ban
13:47.0
because I know
13:47.6
how bad that feels
13:48.6
and, you know,
13:49.7
kung hindi ka-agree
13:50.4
kay BBM,
13:51.1
okay lang,
13:51.5
mag-criticize ka,
13:52.4
okay lang,
13:52.7
pati naman tayo
13:53.5
lahat nag-criticize eh.
13:54.6
Huwag ka lang, ano,
13:55.8
pro-destabilization na literal.
13:58.3
But I don't naman think...
13:59.4
So, if Facebook
14:00.4
is gonna shut you down
14:01.3
based on those reasons,
14:02.1
they have to give you
14:02.8
very good basis,
14:04.2
talagang ma-ebidensya.
14:05.4
Kasi, di ba,
14:06.2
kunyari sa copyright,
14:07.4
papakita sa'yo,
14:08.2
etong video mo,
14:09.1
ganito, ganyan.
14:09.8
Hindi pwede yung
14:10.9
vague na walang basean,
14:13.1
di ba, bro?
14:13.4
Kaya alam ko,
14:14.0
nasistress ka
14:14.6
kasi parang hindi klaro sa'yo.
14:16.4
Ano ba talaga nangyayari sa'yo?
14:17.4
Miss Farbe,
14:18.2
eto, na mas-report ka ba?
14:19.7
But I hope,
14:20.7
from now on,
14:21.3
tama yung sinabi mo, bro, eh.
14:22.9
Dapat magprotektaan
14:24.0
ng content creators
14:24.9
dun sa harassment
14:25.7
ng mas-report eh.
14:26.7
Kasi pwede maging basean niya
14:28.1
na mag-censor ka na lang
14:29.4
kasi natakot ka
14:30.2
ma-mas-report ka.
14:35.4
There has to be a better way
14:38.1
to address complaints, di ba?
14:40.2
Kung,
14:40.5
kung nga na,
14:41.1
merong mga pages
14:41.8
na nakakasamana,
14:43.3
baka pwede mag-email na lang
14:44.5
kay Facebook
14:45.1
sa office nila dito
14:46.8
o kung saan.
14:47.7
Sila na mag-design
14:48.7
if this page is
14:49.6
harmful na to people
14:51.3
or masama na yung ginagawa
14:53.9
by your dating.
14:55.7
So,
14:56.3
yun ang,
14:56.6
yun ang, ano,
14:57.3
yun ang nangyayari.
14:58.4
Habang nagkakakulo
14:59.3
yung mga influencers
15:00.8
dito sa Unity
15:01.6
ng Civil War.
15:02.8
Next episode na yan.
15:04.1
Pero itong episode
15:05.0
sa'yo lang talaga yan, bro.
15:06.3
Of course,
15:07.3
alam mo,
15:07.6
malapit ka sa puso ko
15:08.6
at saka
15:09.1
I feel,
15:10.5
I feel what you're feeling
15:11.6
because I also went through that
15:12.8
and actually for me,
15:14.6
matagal naman sinasabi
15:15.5
ni Marie Reza yan.
15:16.4
You don't have to agree
15:17.1
with Rappler and Marie Reza
15:18.1
for all issues
15:20.1
but she has been raising
15:21.1
this issue of
15:21.8
lack of accountability
15:22.5
and transparency
15:23.4
sa social media.
15:25.0
Kaya tayo,
15:25.8
I mean,
15:26.2
I hope guys,
15:27.2
you understand.
15:28.1
Kami ni Mark,
15:28.7
we put hours of
15:29.6
every single day
15:30.9
into building our audience,
15:32.6
building our content.
15:34.0
Sa inyo,
15:34.3
mukhang madali lang.
15:35.0
Nagpapakiyot lang kami, bro.
15:36.4
Pero buhay namin yan.
15:37.6
At saka,
15:38.6
grabe yan.
15:39.3
Alam ko yan,
15:39.8
si Mark,
15:40.3
I can vouch for him.
15:41.2
He really, really works hard.
15:42.4
He's concentrating
15:43.0
on the content.
15:43.9
So,
15:44.3
alam ko,
15:44.8
masakit talaga yung feeling.
15:45.7
Alam niyo,
15:46.0
of course,
15:46.4
I'm happy that you still have
15:47.4
your YouTube.
15:48.3
You're very strong there
15:49.2
and other places.
15:50.6
Pero hindi pa rin, eh.
15:51.7
Hindi pa rin okay
15:52.4
yung nangyari sa'yo, bro.
15:53.7
So, sana,
15:55.0
mag-iingay ako bukas ulit
15:56.3
sa Twitter.
15:57.1
Away-awayan.
15:57.8
Ay, bukas is Sunday, sir.
15:59.0
Sa Monday.
15:59.3
Awayan natin ulit.
16:00.9
Kasi kahit mabalik yun sa'yo, bro,
16:02.4
mali pa rin yung ginawa nila sa'yo.
16:03.8
Mali talaga yun, eh.
16:07.7
Walang, walang notification.
16:09.1
Walang,
16:09.4
walang idea.
16:10.4
Gulag eh.
16:11.2
Nagising mo na lang.
16:12.5
Wala na lang ka agad.
16:13.6
So,
16:14.7
yun na.
16:15.2
Talagang,
16:15.9
na-stressful
16:16.8
first week of the year.
16:18.3
Parang rollercoaster
16:19.3
of emotions.
16:21.0
Ngayong,
16:21.3
ngayong
16:21.8
first year na,
16:23.2
ka-first week ng 2024.
16:25.6
Pero God willing,
16:26.1
God willing,
16:27.7
maayos natin yan, bro.
16:28.7
Mag-iingay ulit
16:29.3
ako sa Monday.
16:30.1
Don't worry about it.
16:30.8
I-raise ko yung issue na yan.
16:31.8
And of course,
16:32.3
may mga contacts naman tayo.
16:33.5
I-raise it.
16:34.4
No, yun nga.
16:35.2
Dapat hindi na maulit ito, eh.
16:36.6
Sana maayos yung saya soon.
16:37.9
And then,
16:38.3
dapat,
16:39.1
ano,
16:39.4
ayusin na nila yung sistema nila
16:40.8
para hindi,
16:41.8
I mean,
16:42.2
grabe naman.
16:42.8
Si Mark Gabo,
16:43.5
napaka tinong tao yan.
16:44.7
Napaka disyento yung vlogger yan.
16:46.5
Yung iba,
16:47.0
parang kahit naiinis ako sa kanya nila,
16:48.5
I still believe na they don't deserve to be banned.
16:50.5
At hindi tama yan.
16:51.3
Kahit akala ni Bannat
16:52.6
ba'y nilalait ko siya.
16:54.5
Basta,
16:55.0
ako ay against
16:55.8
against Bannat.
16:57.4
All of that.
16:57.8
Lumpi ka lang yun.
16:58.6
Oo.
16:59.2
Sige, bro.
16:59.7
Thank you so much.
17:00.6
Thank you so much.
17:00.8
Do you have any message to say
17:02.2
before we close this episode
17:03.5
about your case?
17:05.3
Medyo traumatic din sa akin yun
17:07.0
kasi nangalala ko rin
17:07.9
what I have to go through.
17:08.8
Pero, Greg,
17:09.1
gawin to yung nagiging experience.
17:10.6
Yung problem
17:11.1
na nagiging experience ko ngayon.
17:13.0
So,
17:13.8
yung mga viewers ko
17:14.9
pag naglalain ako
17:15.7
tsaka nagpuposa ko ng video
17:16.8
sa model sa pagtinilatid
17:17.9
isanay sila
17:18.9
na nanonotify sila
17:20.3
pag naglalain ako
17:21.2
sanay sila
17:22.2
na lumadabas sa feed nila
17:23.3
kapag
17:23.9
Ay, nag-hi si Bannat ba'y.
17:26.0
Uy.
17:26.7
Bro, ano ka ba naman?
17:28.3
Drama ka naman.
17:30.2
Ayan na si Bannat ba'y.
17:31.8
Blue check.
17:33.0
Man of the year.
17:34.6
Pasalubong naman.
17:35.4
Uy, pasalubong naman
17:36.7
sa Japan.
17:37.4
Ano mang kunis natin?
17:39.0
Voltes 5?
17:42.5
Uy, mag-ano pa tayo?
17:44.0
Bannat ba'y,
17:44.6
mag-ano pa tayo?
17:45.4
Magdidebate pa tayo.
17:47.2
Hindi, eto, eto.
17:47.9
Buti nga nakabalut nga si Bannat.
17:49.4
Dapat ikaw rin
17:50.1
makabalut.
17:50.3
Magkabalik, magkabalik, eh.
17:51.7
Oo.
17:52.8
Kaya huwag na kayo
18:00.8
mag-picture ni Byron masyado.
18:02.6
Parati ka kasi ngayon
18:03.3
nag-picture.
18:04.0
Tapos pansin ko, Mark,
18:05.0
every time yung may post ka.
18:06.2
Pansin ko, every time
18:15.7
kasama tayong dalawa,
18:16.9
magka-comment si Byron.
18:18.8
Eh, doon na yung
18:19.9
kakamahal.
18:20.3
Ang pink na yan.
18:21.7
Ayun ako, ayun ako.
18:23.3
Ayun, baka dinilite ko naman.
18:25.1
Idahan natin sa boteng.
18:27.7
Alam mo, Bannat,
18:29.1
dinilite ko yan
18:29.9
dahil tinext na lang
18:30.8
kita ng derech.
18:31.5
Tsaka yung dinilite ko naman,
18:32.5
actually, hindi siya controversial.
18:34.1
Sabi ko, baka mag-away-away na.
18:35.6
Eh, kasi nagkakomment ang tao
18:36.8
nung may pinosta ko na chill lang.
18:39.1
Sabi ko, mamaya,
18:39.7
awayin pa si Bannat ba'y.
18:41.0
Lalong guguluto.
18:42.1
Sabi ko,
18:42.7
idelete ko na lang yan.
18:44.1
Pero under record ako na
18:45.2
against talaga ako sa banning na yan.
18:46.6
Kasi lahat tayo na traumatized.
18:47.9
Kasi hindi naman tama yung gano'n.
18:49.4
Tsaka yung,
18:50.9
alam mo, bro,
18:51.6
alam mo yung feeling na parang
18:52.8
may jowa ka,
18:53.8
diglang iwanan ka,
18:54.9
tapos walang reason,
18:55.9
walang explanation,
18:57.4
walang text,
18:58.3
walang message.
18:59.5
Parang double kill yung feeling na gano'n.
19:01.7
Diba?
19:02.1
Aminin natin,
19:02.8
parang jowa natin to eh.
19:04.6
Kung refresh ka na refresh,
19:06.9
refresh ka na refresh,
19:08.3
ginaan mo kung babali,
19:09.6
yun ang stressful
19:10.8
yung mga unang araw talaga natin.
19:14.1
Dapat ginagawa mo yung ginagawa ni Bannat ba'y.
19:16.5
Nag-Japan-Japan ka na lang.
19:17.9
Nag-sagot sa ano?
19:19.3
Hindi na siya pa sa Japan eh.
19:20.6
Nung nawala,
19:21.4
at least makasron siya.
19:22.8
Kaya rin lang sell lang siya doon.
19:23.9
Oo nga eh.
19:24.9
Kaya nga parang yung video ni Bannat ba'y,
19:26.8
parang weird.
19:27.5
Kasi parang
19:28.0
nagre-reklamo siya sa'kin.
19:29.7
Pero parang happy naman niya.
19:31.0
Ang ganda nung likod niya.
19:32.2
Parang nag-flex lang siya.
19:34.0
Alam mo yung nangyayari.
19:34.9
Alam mo yung nga.
19:36.1
Eh,
19:37.1
bro ha,
19:37.7
next time,
19:38.3
mag-debate tayo ulit.
19:39.7
Yung bagong Facebook page ko,
19:41.2
yung second is
19:41.9
Models of Manila FM.
19:43.2
So yun yung temporary na ginagamit ko
19:45.4
habang
19:45.9
we try to recover yung
19:48.2
Models of Manila TV.
19:49.5
So FM muna.
19:51.8
And then bro,
19:52.7
can you,
19:53.2
for the purpose of our
19:54.7
followers,
19:55.9
except si Bannat ba'y,
19:58.3
where can people follow you?
20:00.1
Ano yung mga places na they can follow you
20:01.9
and what kind of content
20:02.9
they can expect from you?
20:04.8
Okay.
20:05.5
So sa Facebook,
20:06.6
active lang ako sa
20:07.5
Models of Manila FM na page.
20:09.8
Sa YouTube,
20:11.1
tatlo yung active ako.
20:12.7
So,
20:12.8
Models of Manila FM na page.
20:13.2
So,
20:13.2
Models of Manila TV,
20:14.3
which is yung politics.
20:15.7
Models of Manila Sports,
20:17.3
which is yung,
20:18.1
yung sports.
20:19.0
Models of Manila FM,
20:20.5
which is yung mga
20:21.1
equal and hot showbiz content.
20:23.1
So yung tatlong yun,
20:24.1
steady yun.
20:24.7
So kung meron nung kailangan
20:25.5
i-announce,
20:26.5
doon na lang.
20:27.2
Doon na lang sa YouTube
20:28.1
ng mga channel na yun.
20:29.8
So doon ko yung na-announce
20:30.6
kapag nawala,
20:31.6
kapag meron palita.
20:32.9
So,
20:33.4
yun.
20:33.9
That's where they can nalang.
20:34.9
At sa Twitter,
20:35.8
Models of Manila.
20:37.3
So,
20:37.7
one word.
20:38.7
Thank you, brother.
20:39.6
Alam ko yung Twitter,
20:40.2
mag-blue check yan.
20:41.2
Oo, siyempre.
20:43.3
Siyempre.
20:43.9
Alam mo ito,
20:44.5
walang yan ban at buy na to.
20:45.9
Minamarites pa tayong dalawa
20:47.2
na ako daw yung salita na salita.
20:48.6
Kasi,
20:49.0
kasi kami yung nag-aaway,
20:50.5
di ba?
20:50.8
Ikaw yung nga yung
20:51.4
nagpapaawat sa amin.
20:52.7
Sabi, walang yan to.
20:54.1
Minamarites pa kaming
20:55.0
jo...
20:56.2
Ano yun?
20:56.5
Parang nag-announce
20:57.3
yan ng mga jowa.
21:00.3
De, pero in fairness,
21:01.6
sobrang,
21:02.2
I think that was
21:02.9
one of our,
21:03.7
one of our most engaging
21:05.9
vlogs last year together.
21:08.8
Given na yung views
21:09.8
mataas, of course,
21:10.8
mayabang,
21:11.2
kasi itong si Banat pay.
21:12.3
Ako yung sinasabing mayabang,
21:13.3
mas mayabang siya sa akin.
21:14.8
No, but I think
21:15.4
in terms of content,
21:17.0
oo, at saka bro,
21:17.6
in terms of content,
21:18.3
let's be honest,
21:19.5
walang,
21:20.5
eto bro,
21:21.0
ayaw kong magyabang,
21:22.5
pero I think no one has done
21:23.6
what we have done.
21:24.6
Yung two people
21:25.5
from completely different side,
21:27.0
ayun,
21:27.1
batis si Moca Uso
21:27.9
nanonon sa atin.
21:29.2
From two person,
21:30.0
from two...
21:30.5
Hi po,
21:31.5
Miss Moca.
21:32.6
No, two person
21:33.2
from completely different side,
21:34.5
umupo, chill lang.
21:35.8
Kahit medyo
21:36.2
passionate yung debate,
21:37.4
at the end of the day,
21:38.0
civil lang.
21:38.5
Yun ang gusto natin mangyari,
21:39.8
na ayaw ko kasi bro
21:41.1
yung cancel culture, eh.
21:42.5
Na, ah,
21:43.0
huwag na i-platform yan.
21:44.2
Alam ko ginagawa rin
21:45.0
sa kapila sa atin yan.
21:46.6
So, I really appreciate
21:47.8
yung nagawa natin
21:48.6
last year with si Banat.
21:50.3
Even if sobrang
21:51.0
na-disagree ako.
21:52.2
Even if alam ko
21:52.9
walang kwento
21:53.7
yung sinabi niya.
21:55.7
Pero, eh, di ba?
21:56.7
We have to,
21:57.4
we have to have more of that.
21:58.9
Kaya sana man,
21:59.5
normalize natin yan.
22:00.5
At saka yung
22:01.1
relaxed, normal,
22:02.5
sitting down.
22:03.0
So, thank you so much,
22:04.0
um,
22:05.1
Mark,
22:05.6
for,
22:05.9
for that,
22:07.1
for that
22:08.2
interview.
22:08.5
And, God willing,
22:09.6
maayos din yung page mo.
22:11.0
Eto nga,
22:11.3
si Moca Husson,
22:12.0
nandyan na.
22:13.0
O, ride soon, sir.
22:14.4
Sa, o,
22:14.5
ito,
22:14.7
usapin ni Moca.
22:16.2
O, si Moca,
22:17.0
nandyan.
22:17.4
Si Banat,
22:18.0
nandyan.
22:18.4
Andami nyo nga.
22:20.1
Ayop,
22:20.7
inaaway nyo naman.
22:22.3
Ano to?
22:23.0
Sabay-sabay pa
22:23.7
si Moca Husson
22:24.6
at si Banat,
22:25.4
ba,
22:25.5
nagko-comment sa akin dito.
22:27.5
Mga kasaysayan na araw ito.
22:29.3
Pero, guys, ah,
22:30.0
alam, alam,
22:30.4
di ba, Mark,
22:31.0
sinabi ko on the record,
22:32.0
against ako dun sa banning
22:33.3
DDS vloggers.
22:35.2
Because,
22:35.6
alam ko gano'ng katraumatik na yan.
22:37.6
Even if sobrang disagree ako
22:39.0
sa kanila sa maraming issues.
22:41.2
Pero, in fairness naman,
22:42.2
I think kay,
22:43.2
hindi ko sinasabi
22:43.8
dahil nasa Baguio ako, ha.
22:45.0
Pero, I think,
22:46.1
kay Mayor Magalong,
22:47.4
lahat tayo,
22:48.5
on the same page tayo,
22:49.6
di ba?
22:50.3
Oy, Banat, ba, eh.
22:51.8
Di ba?
22:52.4
Si Mayor,
22:53.0
gusto natin si Mayor
22:54.0
ang digitize tayo sa Baguio.
22:55.4
Okay, thank you very much, bro.
22:56.4
Let's go to the next topic
22:57.6
na mas controversial.
22:59.1
Pag-usapan natin sila,
23:00.3
Banat, ba,
23:00.8
at siyang maawayan
23:01.6
ng mga vlog.
23:02.2
Ako, pinabantayan na ako,
23:04.0
maare.
23:05.5
Ang hirap to.
23:07.3
Shoot.
23:08.0
Okay, alam ko.
23:08.7
Let's go, let's go.
23:11.3
Patay tayo sa'n.
23:12.5
Ibi-video nila yung pangit ko.
23:13.9
Bukha ngayon.
23:14.6
Pangit pa rin
23:15.2
ang angle natin dito.
23:16.5
Okay, let's go.
23:17.8
Let's do this.
23:20.1
Asan ba?
23:21.9
Okay.
23:22.9
Ito na, ito na, ito na, ito na.
23:25.1
Okay, bro.
23:25.8
Ito, ito, ito.
23:26.5
Let's go to this issue.
23:28.6
Isang dahilan
23:29.4
na you and I
23:30.5
have been anticipating
23:31.4
tensions dito sa Unity
23:33.5
and the eventual,
23:35.2
well, disintegration,
23:36.4
whatever you want to call it,
23:37.6
disentanglement of Unity.
23:38.9
It's because
23:39.3
pina-follow natin,
23:40.4
among others,
23:41.2
hindi lang si Banat, ba,
23:42.5
hindi lang mga usual
23:43.9
sospecs,
23:44.4
pati yung mga ibang
23:45.3
lesser known
23:46.5
na hindi kasing major
23:47.4
vlogger nila Banat, ba.
23:48.5
You have been following them
23:49.3
at nakikita natin
23:50.0
nung election pa lang
23:50.9
kasi si Banat, ba,
23:51.7
I think isko siya, diba?
23:53.5
So, hindi niya
23:54.2
support necessarily Unity.
23:55.7
So, dun pa lang
23:56.3
nakita natin
23:57.0
may mga fault na.
23:57.8
I think Mocha also
23:58.6
supported isko, diba?
24:00.2
So, dun pa lang
24:00.7
nakita ko na may mga
24:01.6
fault lines tayo dyan.
24:03.6
But now, bro,
24:04.8
mukhang medyo
24:05.4
all out, ano na, no?
24:06.7
Banatan na yung
24:07.5
mga malalaking
24:08.2
ibang major vloggers dyan.
24:10.0
So, kanina,
24:10.5
nag-share-share lang ako
24:11.5
ng mga ganito.
24:12.2
Ang kanilang pagpagpwento,
24:13.4
let's do this.
24:15.0
Let's do this.
24:15.0
Let's proceed, Richard,
24:15.7
dito sa Civil War
24:17.1
ng mga influencers
24:18.5
at mga pag-
24:19.5
ang tawag din
24:20.2
at jukebox influencers, eh.
24:22.1
Masakan din natin.
24:23.2
Pero may tanong muna ako
24:23.9
sa iyo, Richard.
24:25.2
Yung bang ICC?
24:27.0
Kasi ito yung major issue
24:28.1
na pag-aawa
24:28.7
ng mga influencers,
24:29.7
for sure, eh.
24:30.5
Yung bang ICC talagang
24:31.6
nag-iimbestigan na dito?
24:32.9
Ano ba talaga?
24:33.7
What's the real deal
24:35.0
pagdating doon?
24:35.9
Kasi may chance ba talaga
24:37.7
na ma-arrest doon?
24:38.8
Nandito na ba talaga?
24:40.2
Ano ba ang
24:40.7
sitwasyon ngayon?
24:41.6
Kasi doon ang route
24:42.6
ng pag-aaway
24:43.5
ng dalawang
24:44.1
influencer na camps, eh.
24:46.4
Yeah, well,
24:47.9
ganito na lang.
24:48.8
Eh, syempre,
24:49.2
yung sila, Banat,
24:50.0
Payan, Moka,
24:50.7
nung panahon pa lang
24:51.4
na-election, alam natin
24:52.3
na medyo lumayan sila
24:53.4
doon sa iba.
24:54.2
Kasi unity mo yung iba.
24:55.4
So, mukhang tama yung
24:56.4
hindi ko sinasabi
24:57.3
dahil nag-follow sila
24:58.2
o kaibigan natin
24:58.9
yung iba dyan,
24:59.6
but parang na-sense sila
25:01.1
na itong unity
25:01.7
may hindi sustainable.
25:02.8
So, wala siguro silang tiwala
25:03.9
kay BBM, et cetera.
25:05.0
So, nagkatito.
25:05.7
But I think,
25:06.5
nagsimula talaga itong
25:07.5
matinding away
25:08.3
na nakita natin ngayon
25:09.3
doon sa ETCA.
25:10.8
Naalala ko nung time
25:11.8
na si BBM
25:13.1
nag-announce nung
25:13.7
ETCA issue,
25:14.9
may expand yung
25:15.7
Enhanced Defense
25:16.3
Cooperation Agreement.
25:17.4
Yung dalawang major blogger
25:18.5
dyan ay nag-away.
25:19.8
Yung isa na,
25:20.8
syempre,
25:22.3
ano daw,
25:22.8
international relations
25:23.7
expert daw siya,
25:24.7
marami siyang sinabi na
25:25.5
obviously,
25:26.0
the usual Duterte line.
25:28.3
Pero yung kabila naman,
25:29.2
parang sinabi niya,
25:30.7
siya ay may access
25:31.6
doon sa information
25:32.5
dahil malapit siya
25:33.4
sa administration.
25:34.3
So, doon palang nakita ko
25:35.4
sa ETCA palang
25:36.1
nagkaroon ng fault line.
25:37.6
At lumala at lumala ito
25:39.1
dahil si Digong mismo
25:40.1
ay sumali din sila
25:41.0
sa debate.
25:42.1
Diba, si President Duterte
25:43.1
himself went to China
25:44.2
to criticize BBM.
25:45.7
Pero tama ka, Mark.
25:47.1
I think it's the ICC
25:48.5
which could be the
25:49.6
final straw, no?
25:51.3
That breaks
25:51.9
the back of
25:53.5
you know,
25:53.7
the camel of unity
25:55.2
or whatever
25:55.7
because
25:56.2
ibang masapan na ito.
25:58.1
And,
25:58.2
kaya nga,
26:00.2
yung video,
26:02.1
may podcast din pala
26:03.1
si ano, no?
26:03.7
Si Harry Roque, no?
26:04.9
Kung saan,
26:05.5
he openly warned
26:06.5
na alam nila
26:08.1
na may investigators
26:09.6
na nandito mo
26:10.7
potentially
26:11.2
and that
26:12.4
hindi lang si Digong
26:13.8
pero even si Sarah
26:14.9
pwede madamay
26:15.6
sa investigation,
26:16.5
diba?
26:16.7
So, that medyo
26:17.8
and sabi na,
26:18.8
hindi naman siya
26:19.5
nag-advocate for
26:20.6
gulo
26:21.4
pero pwede mangyaring gulo yan.
26:22.8
So,
26:22.9
that just tells you
26:24.2
na may awareness na dito
26:25.6
sa investigation.
26:27.2
Kasi,
26:27.8
parang,
26:28.3
bro,
26:28.6
noong November,
26:29.5
if I'm not mistaken,
26:30.6
si Solicitor General
26:31.7
na from dating administration,
26:33.6
dating Justice Secretary
26:34.6
ni Digong,
26:35.6
parang sinabi niya
26:36.4
na yung position
26:37.5
ng government
26:38.1
is still,
26:38.8
they're still against
26:39.8
ICC in terms of
26:41.3
they do not accept
26:42.5
this jurisdiction
26:43.4
of ICC
26:44.0
which is something
26:45.1
that ICC doesn't agree
26:46.1
because ICC says
26:47.4
we determined
26:48.2
that we have jurisdiction
26:49.1
on this issue
26:49.6
because you were not able
26:51.1
to fulfill
26:52.0
what you were supposed
26:52.9
to do.
26:52.9
to fulfill.
26:53.5
So,
26:54.0
30, 20,
26:55.1
6,000,
26:55.6
even if sabi natin 6,000
26:57.0
yung EJK cases,
26:58.7
parang ilan lang bang
26:59.6
na-investigate na mabuti,
27:01.2
ilan lang bang na kulong.
27:02.8
So,
27:03.2
so,
27:03.6
sobrang laki nung
27:04.5
disproportionality doon.
27:07.6
But,
27:08.5
ang sinabi ni
27:09.5
Ivar,
27:10.2
if I'm not mistaken,
27:11.0
something like,
27:12.0
pero we're not gonna stop them
27:13.3
if they wanna come here
27:14.2
to investigate.
27:15.2
So,
27:15.3
isisend ko yung link sa'yo.
27:16.4
And this is
27:16.9
late November, bro.
27:18.8
So,
27:19.3
if ICC is here,
27:20.8
probably they have been here
27:21.8
for a month already.
27:23.5
Right?
27:23.8
Or at least few weeks
27:24.8
na already.
27:25.7
Diba?
27:26.2
And,
27:27.0
it's not like wala naman silang
27:28.4
investigations dati.
27:30.0
Or,
27:30.4
kasi may preliminary na naman
27:31.7
na yan ang investigation.
27:32.7
But,
27:32.9
ito talaga fact-finding.
27:37.8
Hindi,
27:38.3
pwede embedded, bro.
27:41.8
Ang dami naman puti.
27:42.8
Ang dami naman puti dyan.
27:44.5
No,
27:44.8
pwede embedded.
27:46.1
Pwede embedded
27:46.9
dun sa forces natin.
27:48.8
Pwede pasimple lang sila.
27:50.1
I'm sure, bro,
27:50.7
kasi,
27:51.5
imagine mo,
27:52.2
yung mga ibang
27:52.6
ICC cases
27:53.4
na i-investigate nila
27:54.5
ay napaka-sensitive cases.
27:56.9
Yugoslavia,
27:57.7
I don't know,
27:58.1
yung sa Afrika.
27:59.5
So, I'm sure,
28:00.1
meron din silang,
28:00.8
hindi naman James Bond level,
28:02.2
pero may mga protocols din sila
28:03.9
to ensure na
28:04.8
yung investigators sila
28:05.8
can do it in a subtle way
28:07.1
na hindi sila
28:08.2
ma,
28:09.1
you know,
28:09.8
to be put in trouble.
28:11.9
Diba?
28:12.0
So, I'm sure they have
28:12.9
some protocols
28:13.6
to deal with that.
28:15.1
So, ang question lang dito is,
28:16.6
an yung level
28:17.5
ng coordination,
28:18.6
logistical coordination
28:19.9
with the administration?
28:21.2
Kapulisan,
28:22.2
and just to say,
28:23.1
because as many sila
28:23.7
mga others,
28:24.7
to give them a sense
28:25.7
of security and all.
28:26.6
Kasi,
28:27.1
hindi naman siguro
28:28.1
yung ICC papasok dito
28:29.3
na barang-bara lang.
28:30.4
I'm sure they,
28:31.0
they wanna make sure
28:31.9
that there's a basic level
28:33.1
of protection
28:33.7
or coordination
28:34.8
they're getting,
28:35.7
even if officially
28:36.5
yung position ng administration
28:37.5
is hindi sila sangayang.
28:39.4
But I think that's why
28:40.2
disagree ako kay Ronald Llamas
28:41.8
nun, eh.
28:42.1
Nangalala mo,
28:42.6
nung bumalik si PBM
28:43.7
from Hawaii,
28:45.4
biglang,
28:45.8
biglang iba yung inip
28:47.0
ng hangin.
28:48.0
Sabi niya,
28:48.4
na-open siya,
28:49.2
na-discuss ulit
28:50.2
yung jurisdiction na yan.
28:51.2
So, I think that was
28:52.3
a de facto recognition
28:54.2
na something may have
28:55.7
changed already.
28:57.0
Pero,
28:57.8
Mark, no?
28:59.4
Alam naman natin
29:00.1
ang ICC,
29:01.7
marunong din naman sila
29:03.4
sa politika, eh.
29:04.3
At alam din natin
29:05.3
na yung legal
29:06.3
intervention sila
29:07.7
ay hindi malayo
29:08.4
dun sa mga political
29:09.2
developments.
29:09.9
So, I'll give you an example.
29:11.2
Yung Ukraine,
29:12.1
na napaka-mainit na issue
29:13.2
sa Europe,
29:14.1
di ba?
29:14.7
Wala pang isang taon,
29:16.1
may warrant of arrest
29:16.9
na si Putin.
29:18.2
Di ba?
29:18.9
Ang bilis, di ba?
29:19.8
Ang bilis.
29:20.2
Kaya, nung interview natin
29:21.4
si Atty. Carranza,
29:22.9
parang nainis siya.
29:23.8
Parang sabi,
29:24.5
parang, ano,
29:25.1
ang bilis naman
29:25.6
pag Putin,
29:26.9
dahil in-invade
29:27.6
ang mga Ukrainians.
29:29.3
Pero, sa ibang bansa,
29:30.1
napakatagal.
29:30.8
So, I think,
29:32.0
aminin natin,
29:32.6
yung ICC,
29:33.7
tinitignan din niya
29:34.4
yung mga political conditions.
29:36.4
Dun kasi sa case ni Putin,
29:37.8
dahil andami galit
29:38.8
sa kanya sa West
29:39.6
and nasa West yung ICC.
29:41.3
Siguro, feeling niya
29:41.9
comfortable siya
29:42.7
to go for gold,
29:44.3
kundi nga.
29:45.4
But, dito sa Pilipinas,
29:46.8
I'm sure,
29:47.7
hinihintay nila
29:48.5
until lumambot yung position
29:50.0
ng bagong administration.
29:51.2
And perhaps, they're there.
29:52.1
So, what I'm saying here is,
29:54.7
technically speaking,
29:56.7
this warrants of arrest
29:58.0
or anything
29:58.3
could come anytime this year.
30:00.5
Diba?
30:01.0
But, politically speaking,
30:02.9
there's a midterm elections
30:03.9
next year.
30:05.2
And BBM,
30:06.0
if you're a BBM,
30:07.1
do you want it
30:07.8
before midterm elections
30:08.9
or after midterm elections?
30:10.2
Because, para sa akin,
30:11.4
pag mangyari ito
30:12.1
before midterm elections,
30:13.8
ito yung magiging rallying cry
30:15.2
ng mga Duterte camp.
30:16.7
Sasabihin nila,
30:17.4
inaapin nyo kami.
30:18.5
Nagdadamay kayo ng internet.
30:20.0
So, this could actually galvanize
30:21.8
the Digong supporters.
30:24.2
So, probably,
30:25.1
politically speaking for BBM,
30:27.0
it's better this happens
30:27.9
after midterms
30:28.9
na kung panalong-panalong na sila
30:30.7
kasi if happens before,
30:32.2
baka mag-backfire ito.
30:33.3
So, yun din yung tinitignan
30:34.8
kung aspect nila.
30:35.7
But, because there would be
30:36.4
up to one or two arrests
30:38.4
after the midterms
30:39.7
na si Duterte senator
30:41.1
na si Digong.
30:42.7
Yeah, but being a senator
30:43.9
doesn't give you immunity.
30:45.5
It doesn't give you immunity.
30:46.4
Kaya nga, si Batu de la Rosa,
30:48.5
was warned not to go abroad
30:50.3
as early as now.
30:51.8
Kasi, it doesn't give.
30:53.2
Ang may immunity lang, bro,
30:54.3
is the president.
30:55.7
Sovereign immunity.
30:56.7
Kasi the president represents
30:58.1
the state.
30:59.5
So, hindi mo pwede kasuhan
31:00.5
yung state mismo
31:01.2
unless this is an ICG case.
31:02.9
Ibang usapan na yan.
31:04.1
So, because ICC is against individuals,
31:06.3
and then kung presidente ka,
31:07.4
you represent the state,
31:08.5
meron kang tinitawag
31:09.1
ng sovereign immunity.
31:10.4
Kaya nga, si BBM,
31:11.7
wala siyang problema
31:12.4
kahit may mga kaso sila sa US
31:14.0
because he has sovereign immunity
31:15.6
so long as he's the president.
31:17.0
But, Senate doesn't give you.
31:18.5
But, I think if President Duterte
31:20.1
runs for Senate,
31:21.1
tops the Senate race,
31:22.2
gets, I don't know,
31:22.7
20 million votes,
31:23.6
30 million votes,
31:24.9
that could present you
31:26.0
some political complications.
31:27.8
Right?
31:28.4
So, then it goes down, bro,
31:30.1
to risk appetite ni BBM.
31:32.7
How much risk BBM is willing to take
31:35.2
and how much kampante siya
31:37.0
na if they go for jugular,
31:39.3
they can pull it off.
31:40.5
Now, I don't know
31:41.1
what's the conversation
31:41.8
behind the scenes,
31:43.1
but for me,
31:44.0
I do not agree na si BBM
31:46.7
may conflict avoidan forever.
31:48.5
But, I know at the same time
31:49.7
that BBM is a very calculated risk guy.
31:52.8
So, unless sigurado siya
31:53.8
na they can contain the situation,
31:55.7
I don't think he'll go for quote.
31:57.0
Or, probably,
31:58.1
they'll first issue warrants of arrest
31:59.7
against lower levels
32:00.9
and then go up slowly.
32:03.0
Diba?
32:03.3
So, there are many ways
32:04.6
na pwede niya na lutuin
32:05.5
itong ulam na ito eh.
32:06.9
But, going back to this, bro,
32:08.4
hindi pala kasabay-sabay,
32:09.7
nung baka,
32:10.2
kaso pag win yung arrest
32:11.3
lower levels muna,
32:12.8
magpag-fortify na yung
32:14.3
at siyempre,
32:14.8
magpapaguna yung mga malalaki.
32:16.6
So,
32:16.9
ang daming palang mga considerations
32:18.8
sa kanya.
32:19.1
Ang daming considerations.
32:20.0
Diba, bro?
32:20.5
Nakikita mo ngayon eh.
32:21.3
Parang every move may risk eh.
32:23.7
Every move pwede mag-backfire.
32:25.5
So, are you gonna go right away
32:27.0
and try to end the story?
32:28.9
Or, are you gonna go slowly?
32:30.4
Or, are you gonna use it
32:31.5
as a democlesor
32:32.6
na pang-trip lang
32:34.3
pero hindi mo gagawin yan
32:35.8
for the foreseeable future?
32:37.0
So, I don't know, bro.
32:38.3
I mean,
32:39.3
hindi rin madaling position ng BBM
32:40.8
kasi this is a very complicated issue.
32:42.4
But, I'll tell you one last thing
32:43.6
before I go back to you, bro.
32:45.3
It's also possible
32:46.4
na yung mga
32:46.9
Western countries
32:47.8
na aliado ni BBM
32:49.0
ay nag-pupush din sa kanya
32:50.7
to come clean
32:52.1
on the ICC issue.
32:53.1
And, if I'm not mistaken,
32:54.7
but it's an issue
32:55.3
ni Leila de Lima,
32:57.3
potentially,
32:58.1
may konting nudge.
33:00.3
Kasi,
33:01.0
yung mga Western countries,
33:02.6
may domestic audience sila.
33:04.2
Ang domestic audience
33:04.8
ay nasasabihin,
33:05.5
wait lang,
33:05.9
di ba Marcos to?
33:07.0
Di ba may kaso to?
33:08.3
Di ba ayon nyo sa Marcos that?
33:09.8
Bakit ngayon
33:10.2
napaka-friend din nyo?
33:11.2
Now, of course,
33:11.6
alam natin dahil sa China yan.
33:13.5
So,
33:14.4
BBM has to give them something.
33:16.1
So, I think
33:16.4
the ICC issue
33:17.3
is part of some negotiations
33:19.1
behind the scenes
33:19.8
also with the Western powers
33:21.0
who want to say,
33:23.2
he's Marcos,
33:24.3
but he's a good guy.
33:25.7
See, he's good with ICC.
33:27.0
He's good with de Lima.
33:27.8
So, there's also
33:28.7
that dynamic, bro,
33:29.6
na we have to take
33:30.3
into consideration.
33:33.0
So, yung pinag-uusapan natin
33:35.6
about the influencers,
33:36.6
itong buong issue
33:37.3
naman ng ICC
33:38.3
at syempre yung SML9,
33:40.0
yung mga minor
33:40.6
ibang issues pa,
33:42.1
ito starting to split na.
33:43.5
Nararamdaman ko na
33:44.5
sa mga unit team,
33:46.4
mga vloggers,
33:47.4
na kailangan na nilang
33:48.6
humili.
33:49.4
You have to choose.
33:51.6
Are you staying
33:52.8
with the administration
33:53.7
kay Marcos
33:54.7
or si Sarah?
33:56.8
When?
33:56.9
If she,
33:57.5
when?
33:58.2
When she resigns
33:59.2
sa dep-ed,
34:00.3
sasama ka ba kay Sarah?
34:01.5
Will you be joining
34:02.2
the opposition na?
34:04.7
For,
34:05.2
for it's not December,
34:06.6
I attended
34:07.3
Chris Locke's party
34:08.8
ng mga vloggers
34:09.7
sa Malacanahan.
34:11.4
So, yung mga vloggers
34:12.5
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
34:14.1
Can you phrase?
34:14.8
What?
34:15.1
What?
34:15.5
What?
34:16.4
Kaya pala
34:17.6
na-banned ka eh.
34:19.2
Kaya pala
34:19.9
na-banned ka.
34:23.2
Mayroon si BBM,
34:24.4
siya yung nagsalita
34:25.2
sa aming mga vloggers.
34:27.4
Sa Shalka.
34:28.9
Aba, aba,
34:29.3
akala ko ako lang
34:30.2
yung medyo mayano.
34:31.3
I think
34:33.6
PCO yung
34:34.9
nag-ayos
34:35.8
nung event na yun.
34:36.8
In-invite yung mga vloggers.
34:38.5
Pero the thing is,
34:39.3
makikita mo ka
34:39.9
sa mga kasama ko,
34:40.8
pili mo na
34:41.4
na itong mga kasama ko,
34:43.0
kapag
34:43.7
nag-split,
34:45.1
sila yung
34:45.6
hindi nga
34:46.4
kasama ko.
34:46.4
Kapi kay Sara,
34:47.2
sila yung
34:47.6
loyalista,
34:49.2
sila yung
34:49.6
kay BBM.
34:51.0
So,
34:51.2
kasi wala din doon.
34:54.3
Ang wala doon,
34:55.1
yung some of the
34:56.2
top BBS na vloggers.
34:58.2
Si Banadbay,
34:59.2
kung ano man nang tingin na
34:60.0
kay Banadbay,
35:01.0
wala nang sumisasabi niya
35:01.9
sa loyalty kay Tico.
35:03.3
Si Banadbay
35:04.0
nagtitroll
35:04.6
ng followers ko.
35:05.9
Nga nga daw.
35:07.5
Tinitroll ni Banadbay
35:08.6
mga followers ko dito.
35:10.1
Alam niya talaga.
35:11.0
Sige lang,
35:11.4
go ahead.
35:13.3
Ano sa sabi
35:13.9
ng mga followers mo?
35:15.1
Hindi,
35:15.3
sabi niya nga nga daw.
35:16.4
Mga followers ko.
35:17.7
Huwag ka magulong
35:18.4
browser yun
35:18.9
sa itong topic na to.
35:20.2
Eh,
35:20.4
huwag ka sabi.
35:21.3
Tinitroll niya yung
35:21.9
mga followers ko.
35:22.9
Sinama niya pa si Mocha.
35:25.0
O,
35:25.3
marunang ka ba mag-bike?
35:26.6
Magpaturo tayo kay Mocha.
35:28.0
Magaling nga to.
35:28.6
Mag-bike yung mind.
35:30.4
Sige,
35:30.9
go ahead,
35:31.2
go bro.
35:41.2
Si Banad
35:42.0
yata ang pinakamalaki
35:42.9
yun,
35:43.1
di ba?
35:44.1
Sa YouTube?
35:46.4
Ang pinakamalaki
35:47.4
yung pinakamalaki
35:47.9
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.1
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.2
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.4
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.5
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.6
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.7
yung pinakamalaki
35:48.9
yung pinakamalaki
35:49.0
Pero nawala ba yung page niya dati?
35:50.7
Bakit Buljack TV na?
35:52.6
So,
35:52.9
iseparate ba yung Buljack TV?
35:54.6
Kasi,
35:55.0
kasi ano yun,
35:55.7
minsan kahit yung ginawa wala,
35:56.8
naging demonetize.
35:58.1
Ah,
35:59.6
okay,
36:00.0
okay, okay.
36:00.2
So,
36:00.5
your page is still there,
36:01.7
your videos are still there.
36:03.3
Pero di ka pwede kumihita.
36:05.1
Well,
36:05.4
you create ang yung page,
36:07.0
tapos i-share ka na lang
36:08.1
yung malaking page.
36:09.0
Okay lang,
36:09.4
because nandun pa rin
36:10.6
yung malaking page,
36:11.3
yung algorithm nun eh.
36:12.6
So,
36:12.8
nagkakatulungan pa rin yung ginawa.
36:14.5
So,
36:14.7
that's a different issue
36:15.9
yung pang nade-demonetize.
36:17.1
So,
36:17.3
I think baka na-demonetize
36:18.4
yung pag-demonetize.
36:18.6
Ah,
36:18.9
yung bang page,
36:19.6
oh.
36:20.1
Pumuha siya ng bago,
36:21.2
i-share lang nga dun sa
36:22.2
bigger one,
36:23.2
okay lang ulit.
36:24.4
So,
36:25.3
yun ang strength ng DDS,
36:26.9
yung online,
36:27.9
talagang malakas sila.
36:29.3
Maraming views
36:29.9
pag naglabas ka.
36:30.7
Pag ina-uppy si Sarah,
36:31.8
ina-uppy si Bigong.
36:33.0
Correct.
36:33.5
Ah,
36:33.8
restaurant si Bigong,
36:35.1
ah,
36:35.4
restaurant si Kukuloy,
36:36.8
isang sa SMNI,
36:38.5
nagagalit yung mga DDS.
36:40.0
At doon,
36:40.6
sumisiba yung kanilang views.
36:42.4
So,
36:42.5
yun ang strength
36:43.2
na nila.
36:43.4
O,
36:43.5
malakas talagang DDS online.
36:45.2
I don't underestimate them.
36:47.3
O,
36:47.7
parang ang malakas lang
36:48.6
na pro-BBM na vlogger,
36:50.2
parang si Pipi lang,
36:51.5
diba?
36:52.0
I mean,
36:52.3
sino ba ba?
36:53.5
Ah,
36:53.9
yun lang.
36:56.2
Do you still consider him
36:57.4
a BBM vlogger?
36:58.8
Hindi siya active,
36:59.3
nag-aaral siya.
37:00.4
Siya yung ina-away ngayon,
37:01.6
doon,
37:01.8
nila,
37:02.6
nila SASS,
37:03.4
nila Presente,
37:04.5
nila Lakatsinay.
37:05.4
O,
37:05.7
gabi na nga eh,
37:06.3
gabi na nga.
37:07.4
I mean,
37:07.8
alam mo nyo naman,
37:08.3
back story,
37:08.8
diba?
37:08.9
Ka-orgmate ko si Pipi
37:11.0
sa Debate Society
37:11.9
sa UP.
37:12.5
So,
37:12.6
I know him from back in the day.
37:15.2
Mataling yung tao,
37:16.1
nataling yung tao.
37:17.3
Ina-attack na siya
37:18.0
nila sa hotel,
37:18.7
na ano.
37:19.6
Pero,
37:20.2
he's not a Marcos vlogger,
37:22.2
right?
37:22.5
Tapos,
37:22.7
quiet lang siya,
37:23.8
no?
37:25.3
Kung kailan nanalo yung
37:27.1
sinusuportahan nilang kandidato,
37:29.0
diba?
37:29.2
The likes of like,
37:29.9
Pipi,
37:30.9
kahit na,
37:31.4
for example,
37:31.9
si Larry Gadon,
37:33.0
yung mga gano'n yung makaiingay
37:34.1
before they won,
37:35.0
kung kailan nanalo na,
37:36.4
who would expect na?
37:37.3
Wala.
37:38.4
So,
37:39.1
sa ngayon,
37:39.8
talagang,
37:40.4
there's a void.
37:41.9
There's a,
37:43.0
mayroong void.
37:45.1
Kunti ngayon,
37:46.0
yung masasabi mong malalakas
37:47.4
ng pro-Marcos vloggers.
37:49.9
Doon kumapasok,
37:51.7
yung mga,
37:53.1
ito yung issue.
37:55.3
For example,
37:56.0
ah, ito ako,
37:57.4
si Sian Gaza.
37:59.3
Mayroon yung this.
38:00.4
Nasa Thailand yun,
38:01.4
diba,
38:01.7
Bangkok boy?
38:03.7
Kaibigan ko yan.
38:04.6
He's a good friend din.
38:05.8
He's a good friend.
38:06.5
Kaya pala nababan ka.
38:08.2
Tignan mo yung mga friends mo.
38:09.6
Banat,
38:10.1
bye.
38:10.7
Sian Gaza.
38:12.3
Tapos,
38:12.7
nag-vlogger ka pa sa Malacanang.
38:14.5
Talagang,
38:15.3
baby M ka pa.
38:16.6
Talagang,
38:17.0
bababan ka talaga,
38:18.2
bro.
38:21.6
So,
38:22.2
hindi siya.
38:22.9
Parang,
38:23.2
parang,
38:23.5
nag-gumawa siya yung video.
38:25.4
Yung una,
38:26.0
isang video,
38:27.5
tatlong,
38:27.9
tatlong cheese mix.
38:29.7
The first one is showbiz related.
38:32.1
The second one is,
38:33.7
may aarestuhin pastor.
38:35.4
The third one is,
38:36.4
may aarestuhin
38:37.2
pataas na government official.
38:39.2
Kasi,
38:39.4
so,
38:41.8
you start,
38:42.6
itong mga hindi naman political vloggers,
38:44.8
parang nakikisali na sa conversation.
38:47.7
Right, right, right.
38:48.6
Marami yan.
38:49.2
Marami yan.
38:49.7
Hindi nasisiyan yan.
38:50.7
Siya yung well-known.
38:52.1
Mas kisilan doon.
38:53.4
Labado,
38:53.9
you start to see.
38:55.0
But,
38:55.3
bakit parang nagiging anti-Guterte si Rendon?
38:57.3
Parang gano'n.
38:58.3
Interesting.
38:58.7
At,
38:58.7
guys,
38:58.9
si Makagago sa YouTube,
39:02.1
malakas din noon.
39:03.6
Yung kanyang TikTok is now anti-Guterte.
39:06.9
In fact,
39:07.8
sinasabi niya,
39:08.8
si PRD,
39:10.6
dating idol ko.
39:12.5
Gano'n niya,
39:13.0
gano'n niya,
39:13.8
gano'n niya sinasabi.
39:15.3
So,
39:15.5
XDDS Club.
39:17.8
Yoko,
39:18.3
inaapos sa kanong itong mga ko,
39:20.1
na baka daw bayad,
39:21.8
baka daw tumapanggap.
39:23.7
Inaapos saan sila?
39:24.7
Yan,
39:24.9
hindi sila Banat ba eh.
39:25.8
Alam niya yan siya.
39:26.9
Sa kanya ko nakuha yung term na
39:28.5
jukebox vloggers.
39:30.0
Pero bro,
39:30.8
tanong ko lang sa'yo,
39:32.1
hindi ko lang handang pa si Banat and Mocha,
39:34.4
but,
39:35.0
si Banat and Mocha,
39:35.9
hindi pro-Sara eh.
39:37.2
Pro-Digong sila,
39:38.1
di ba?
39:38.7
Parang yun ang tinitin.
39:39.3
So, iba rin sila eh.
39:40.7
Hindi sila yung all-out
39:41.7
sa Sara and Digong eh.
39:43.5
So,
39:43.8
parang sisasot lang bang gano'n?
39:45.3
I mean,
39:45.8
parang,
39:47.0
iba rin, di ba?
39:47.7
Iba yung inyong slice dyan eh.
39:49.8
Parang,
39:50.2
parang nasag sila lang yung
39:51.3
hindi exactly pro-Sara eh,
39:53.1
na prominenteng vlogger.
39:55.2
The rest,
39:56.1
sumusuporta kay Sara.
39:57.2
Kung ano yung sumusuporta nila sa tatay,
39:58.8
hindi yung sumusuporta sa sana.
40:00.8
Si Banat ba eh,
40:02.0
mayroon pa rin.
40:02.7
When push comes to shove,
40:04.1
syempre,
40:04.6
tingin ko sila Banat ba eh.
40:05.6
Syempre,
40:05.8
kasi Sara,
40:06.2
doon teltik pa rin yan.
40:07.3
If,
40:07.5
if,
40:07.8
if,
40:08.1
supporting Sara means
40:11.4
that she could defend her dad,
40:13.2
I think sila Banat ba eh
40:14.2
will come around then.
40:15.3
So,
40:15.7
sa akin,
40:16.5
gano'n natingin ko dyan.
40:17.4
Yeah.
40:18.3
Pero,
40:18.6
syempre,
40:19.3
mga huling elections,
40:21.3
hindi sila pro-Sara.
40:23.1
Pero,
40:23.4
sila Banat ba eh,
40:23.9
talagang pro hindi ko na talaga.
40:25.4
Talagang up to the very end.
40:26.6
Kaya,
40:26.9
mapapalaban talaga sila
40:28.2
kung magkakotoo
40:29.4
yung mga sinasabi natin
40:30.5
sa 2020-2025.
40:31.2
Oo,
40:31.5
grabe tong ICC na to,
40:33.0
grabe to,
40:33.5
medyo mainit-init to.
40:34.6
Kasi,
40:35.0
even if hindi mangyari
40:36.0
yung warrant of arrest,
40:37.3
even if there's a slight move
40:38.5
on the ICC issue
40:39.4
or slight official recognition
40:41.4
na they're here
40:41.9
and they're doing investigation,
40:43.9
pasabog yan.
40:44.7
Especially ahead of 2025.
40:46.1
I mean,
40:46.6
kung ikaw DDS camp,
40:47.6
gagamitin mo talaga yan
40:48.5
bilang ano eh,
40:49.3
na kailangan natin
40:50.1
yung panalo
40:50.6
yung mga bata natin
40:51.6
dahil,
40:52.3
oo,
40:52.5
existential na yan eh.
40:53.7
Oo,
40:54.0
existential na yan.
40:54.9
So,
40:55.1
I think yung Harry Roque intervention
40:56.6
was very,
40:57.2
very important.
40:58.0
Very important.
40:58.8
Okay bro,
40:59.1
I'll close this episode.
41:00.5
Let's go to the final episode.
41:01.7
Pag-usapan naman natin
41:02.6
ang pink vloggers
41:04.2
or yung mga ibang vloggers
41:05.5
who are gaining ground.
41:06.6
Kasi,
41:07.0
nag-stabilize na yung ano eh,
41:08.8
nagpapalansa na yung field,
41:10.1
di ba?
41:10.5
This is a very different field
41:11.7
from what you entered in 2019
41:13.3
and definitely
41:13.9
from what I entered
41:15.1
in 2016 and 2015
41:16.6
as a political analyst.
41:17.6
Thank you very much, bro.
41:21.6
Ganda, ganda.
41:22.5
Okay,
41:22.7
eto na, eto na.
41:24.5
Okay bro,
41:25.1
eto naman.
41:26.5
Pakasabihin nila
41:27.0
na masyado tayong
41:27.6
my favorite is
41:28.3
yung purong
41:28.7
Barnard Bile
41:29.3
ang pinag-usapan natin kanina
41:30.7
tsaka of course
41:31.3
yung mga usual suspects
41:32.2
yan and all.
41:33.3
Now,
41:33.5
ako naman,
41:34.0
I mean,
41:34.3
one of the reasons
41:34.8
I appreciated
41:35.5
our collaboration,
41:36.4
Mark and Bo,
41:37.0
is because
41:37.6
it allows me
41:38.7
to differentiate.
41:39.5
Kasi ang problema
41:40.1
is the usual
41:40.9
dilawan rhetoric
41:41.7
is,
41:41.9
ah,
41:42.2
lahat yan,
41:42.7
mga DDS,
41:43.4
huwag mong kausapin,
41:44.4
pero ako naman,
41:45.0
I've dealt with Sasot,
41:46.8
I've dealt with Barnard Bile,
41:48.0
I've dealt with TP,
41:49.1
of course,
41:49.4
in different capacity
41:50.2
back in the day.
41:50.8
So,
41:51.0
I know them
41:51.5
quite personally,
41:53.8
you know,
41:54.3
from different,
41:55.4
and again,
41:56.1
of course,
41:56.9
marami tayong disagreement,
41:58.3
Barnard Bile among others,
41:59.7
but medyo gets ko na,
42:01.7
you know,
42:02.0
they may come from
42:02.8
similar,
42:03.6
you know,
42:04.3
political persuasions,
42:06.2
pero iba silang tao,
42:07.3
no?
42:07.5
There's a lot of diversity
42:08.9
to where they come from.
42:11.0
But,
42:11.2
yun nga eh,
42:12.2
aminin natin,
42:13.2
tama ka,
42:13.7
from 2016
42:14.5
to,
42:15.0
to 2021,
42:16.2
I would say,
42:17.3
sobrang lopsided
42:18.7
yung social media,
42:20.6
diba?
42:20.8
Kasi parang,
42:21.5
halos lahat ng
42:22.3
ayaw kay Digong
42:23.3
ay nasa
42:24.6
mainstream media,
42:25.6
katulad ko,
42:26.3
diba?
42:27.2
Mainstream media.
42:28.9
Exactly.
42:29.7
Twitter,
42:30.2
pero parang,
42:31.2
yun nga eh,
42:31.5
parang Twitter,
42:32.4
sobrang imbalanced,
42:33.8
diba?
42:35.3
There's not even
42:36.1
a competition there.
42:37.8
Actually,
42:38.1
sa Twitter,
42:38.5
ang kaaway ko
42:39.0
yung mga ibang bansa na eh,
42:40.3
mga ibang issues
42:41.1
na kay Sausawa,
42:41.9
sa Mayo,
42:42.1
alam mo naman ako,
42:42.8
geopolitics,
42:43.5
so mga kaaway ko doon,
42:44.6
mga projects,
42:45.0
pro-China,
42:45.9
pro-Russia,
42:46.9
yung mga ganyan,
42:47.5
pro-Trump,
42:48.3
yung mga ganyan.
42:48.7
So,
42:49.1
wala na akong pake
42:49.7
sa domestic sa,
42:51.0
pero,
42:51.6
pagdating sa YouTube,
42:52.5
lakas-lakas ni Banat Pai,
42:53.9
doon sa Facebook,
42:54.9
si Moho,
42:55.4
so of course,
42:55.9
was the first big one there,
42:58.0
and then Sasot came,
42:59.0
Tingin Pinoy came,
43:00.0
but it looks like,
43:00.7
bro,
43:00.8
since 2021,
43:01.9
medyo the field is
43:02.9
balancing,
43:04.1
no?
43:04.1
I mean,
43:04.4
so I think the most
43:05.4
prominent person
43:06.3
who went from
43:07.7
mainstream media
43:08.4
all the way to
43:09.1
social media,
43:10.3
not named Richard Hedaria,
43:12.6
no, no,
43:13.2
is Christian Esquera,
43:14.4
di ba?
43:14.7
Christian Esquera,
43:15.5
kudus to him,
43:16.2
I think he has made
43:16.9
a very good transition,
43:18.5
he's doing very well
43:19.3
on YouTube,
43:20.4
Facebook,
43:21.3
quite okay,
43:22.2
Twitter,
43:22.8
quite okay,
43:23.7
and then,
43:24.4
of course,
43:24.7
meron ka pa rin yung rise
43:25.6
ng mga maraming pinks
43:26.7
sa TikTok,
43:27.7
na million-million
43:28.4
yung followers,
43:29.0
et cetera.
43:29.6
Can you tell us
43:30.3
a little bit about that?
43:31.5
You go it for it, bro.
43:32.5
Pero before,
43:33.3
before Christian Esquera,
43:35.1
actually,
43:35.6
yung nga yung,
43:36.3
ay, sorry, sorry,
43:37.1
mali pala ako,
43:37.8
sorry,
43:39.2
mali pala ako,
43:39.7
there is a market
43:40.7
for pink content.
43:42.7
Kung ako nag-pink
43:43.7
from the start
43:44.3
sabihin natin
43:44.8
naging pink vlogger ako
43:45.8
from the start,
43:46.6
siguro mas malaki
43:47.3
kinikita ko.
43:48.3
Kasi malaki,
43:49.1
mas,
43:49.9
mas malaki yung base
43:51.5
ng mga nanonood,
43:52.6
mas may capacity
43:53.2
sila to watch.
43:54.4
Yeah,
43:54.8
to buy stars
43:56.7
and all that,
43:57.4
yeah.
43:57.4
So,
43:57.4
at that time,
43:59.6
nung nagsasimula tayo,
44:00.7
hindi ko mag-gets
44:01.3
bakit wala masyadong
44:02.6
mga pink or yellow
44:04.3
na vloggers
44:05.2
when there's
44:06.4
a lot of money
44:07.4
to be made.
44:08.1
Di ba,
44:08.5
syempre,
44:08.7
sabi ko,
44:08.9
nakatakot,
44:09.4
sila safety nila.
44:10.8
Pero,
44:11.3
before Christian Esquera,
44:12.5
gusto ko lang din sabihin,
44:14.3
na,
44:14.8
nag-pays the way
44:16.2
for this,
44:16.9
na yung resurgence
44:18.0
ng mga pink na vloggers,
44:20.7
not named
44:21.3
Haydarian
44:22.0
at Christian Esquera.
44:23.6
I see,
44:24.3
at the later,
44:25.0
si Lapid.
44:26.1
Oh, yeah,
44:26.9
of course,
44:27.5
of course,
44:28.1
of course, bro,
44:28.9
of course, bro,
44:29.6
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
44:30.3
I'm so sorry, yeah.
44:32.3
You're right.
44:33.2
Yeah, yeah.
44:33.7
Kasi si Kapercy,
44:35.2
kasi parang traditional
44:36.7
kasi siya eh.
44:37.5
So,
44:38.2
di ba?
44:38.7
I'm not sure if he even
44:39.9
understood yung level
44:41.1
nung influence na.
44:42.0
Yeah, you're right.
44:42.7
Kasi iba pag nasa radio pa eh.
44:44.3
Yung mga small towns,
44:45.5
mga lalang.
44:45.7
Pero pag yung video mo
44:47.2
nilagay mo sa online,
44:48.7
o Pilipinas na,
44:49.6
you are going to
44:50.5
ruffle a lot of
44:51.4
pwede,
44:51.9
maraming magagaling
44:52.8
talaga sa'yo
44:53.4
kapag
44:54.5
nagpabiral ka sa online.
44:57.0
So,
44:57.2
first,
44:57.5
si Lapid
44:58.0
opened the way.
45:00.2
You're right.
45:00.8
After,
45:01.5
yung after
45:02.2
nung tagang assassination
45:03.2
is demise,
45:04.3
many of his followers
45:06.1
nag-jack to
45:08.3
lesser known vloggers
45:10.8
na akong mga
45:11.4
Right.
45:12.2
So,
45:12.3
na-example niya
45:13.0
si Labatang Maynila.
45:14.1
So,
45:14.3
it's
45:14.8
si Nandem Josh.
45:16.0
Sila Armin.
45:17.0
Sila Armin,
45:17.9
diba?
45:19.1
And,
45:19.3
another one
45:20.9
that's doing really well
45:21.7
right now
45:22.1
na pwede nating
45:22.8
pwede nating
45:23.4
interview
45:24.5
in the future,
45:25.6
si Vlogcaster
45:26.4
Armandine.
45:29.0
Armand,
45:29.4
Armand pala,
45:30.4
sorry,
45:30.6
sabi ko Armin.
45:31.3
Yeah, Armand.
45:33.0
Armandine Nocum.
45:34.5
Kasama ko siya
45:35.2
nung campaign.
45:36.3
Tapos,
45:36.7
yun,
45:37.0
he was just starting nun.
45:38.2
Pero ngayon,
45:38.6
he's really blossoming na.
45:40.6
And,
45:40.8
I'm watching
45:41.7
yung kanyang
45:42.3
yung kanyang video
45:43.4
sa,
45:44.0
ano,
45:44.3
sa YouTube.
45:45.9
Ang tatapang
45:46.6
exposes
45:47.6
and,
45:48.7
talagang,
45:49.5
ano,
45:50.0
talagang mga sensitive topics
45:51.8
na ako,
45:53.1
hindi ko,
45:53.9
hindi ko ginagalit.
45:54.8
Si Banagbay lang
45:56.1
ata pumapatul
45:56.9
sa mga ganun.
45:57.9
Parang yun yung,
45:58.8
ano,
45:59.0
diba?
45:59.3
Si Banagbay,
46:00.7
si LaPercy,
46:01.4
ito yung mga big YouTubers
46:02.6
na parang
46:03.1
expose type,
46:04.4
diba?
46:04.7
Although from
46:05.4
completely different persuasions.
46:07.8
Si Vlogcaster,
46:09.0
I'm not sure
46:09.5
if you've checked
46:10.3
ngayong kanyang YouTube.
46:11.2
Hindi,
46:11.4
lumalabas siya
46:12.0
sa analytics ko, bro.
46:13.1
Kasi yung similar,
46:14.3
yung mga audience namin.
46:15.5
Similar yung mga nanonood.
46:16.5
Oo,
46:17.0
siya,
46:17.4
Christian Esquera,
46:18.5
yun.
46:19.4
Yung vlogcaster,
46:20.3
which is good din naman
46:21.1
kasi yun yung dati
46:22.2
na dami democracy,
46:23.3
diba?
46:23.5
Yung people exposing
46:25.1
yung mga,
46:25.6
pero syempre,
46:26.1
I worry din
46:27.2
sa safety niya.
46:28.4
Pero yung mga ganun,
46:29.8
si Christian Esquera,
46:31.7
siya yung more
46:32.2
college type,
46:33.4
galing sa mainstream kasi.
46:35.1
Kaya,
46:35.6
ang ganda,
46:36.0
ang ganda ng presentation.
46:37.7
Malinis.
46:38.5
Malinis.
46:39.7
Malinis.
46:40.6
Diba?
46:41.0
Pero,
46:41.3
on a different level naman,
46:44.0
ah,
46:44.3
si vlogcaster,
46:45.7
iba naman yung style niya.
46:46.8
Non-expose.
46:47.4
Pero,
46:47.7
isko rin siya,
46:48.4
diba?
46:49.3
Arman is also isko,
46:50.6
diba?
46:52.0
Yes.
46:52.5
Isko siya.
46:53.2
So,
46:53.4
siya,
46:53.8
banad by ikaw,
46:54.6
lahat kay isko,
46:55.2
diba?
46:56.3
Yes.
46:56.8
After election,
46:57.7
you went full opposition.
47:00.2
Talaga,
47:00.5
anti-Marcos,
47:01.2
anti-Duterte.
47:02.2
Right,
47:02.7
right.
47:02.9
After the elections.
47:05.4
Ah,
47:05.8
basta full opposition.
47:06.7
Ano,
47:07.1
hindi naman exactly anti-Marcos,
47:08.4
basta full opposition
47:09.5
nung,
47:09.7
nung after the elections.
47:11.7
And,
47:12.0
ah,
47:12.5
ayun,
47:12.8
si Batang Maynila,
47:14.3
Govids,
47:15.1
ayun,
47:15.5
ah,
47:15.8
yung viewers niya,
47:17.5
for the Lenny audience.
47:18.7
And,
47:18.9
I got to say that,
47:20.0
ano,
47:20.1
nakita pa naman,
47:21.2
ano,
47:21.4
nakita pa naman,
47:22.4
now is a really good time
47:24.1
to enter vlogging
47:25.6
for,
47:27.3
ah,
47:27.7
the pink audience.
47:29.2
Yeah.
47:29.6
Kasi,
47:30.3
the audience is big.
47:32.2
Yung mga vloggers,
47:33.4
konti,
47:33.9
hindi kasing nakaminusay
47:35.0
yung team.
47:36.2
Pero,
47:36.5
the demand is still there.
47:38.5
Oh.
47:39.0
Malaki yung demand
47:39.6
for pink content.
47:41.9
Ano na ba ginagawa ni Lenny?
47:43.3
Ano na ba ginagawa ni...
47:43.9
Yeah.
47:44.3
So,
47:44.6
may pangyay,
47:45.4
ano?
47:45.7
So,
47:46.4
ah,
47:46.8
ah,
47:47.2
yun ang masasabi ko
47:48.2
for the opposition.
47:49.7
Kasi,
47:50.5
alaki ng opportunity.
47:51.7
Tsaka,
47:52.2
bro,
47:52.4
tanong ko lang,
47:53.0
di ba parang less toxic
47:54.3
na rin ang YouTube ngayon?
47:55.7
Kasi,
47:56.1
actually,
47:56.5
Twitter toxic pa rin,
47:57.5
eh,
47:57.6
to be honest.
47:58.5
Ang funny is,
47:59.3
yung mga nag-a-attack sa akin
48:00.4
sa Twitter,
48:00.9
usually,
48:01.4
yung mga dilawag pa nga,
48:02.4
di ba?
48:02.6
Dami-galit din sa akin,
48:03.7
kasi,
48:04.2
kinikwestion ko yung ginagawa
48:05.4
ng opposition,
48:06.3
kinikwestion ko yung mga
48:07.1
kanina pa kulangan.
48:08.0
So,
48:08.0
actually,
48:08.3
yung pinaka-away ko doon,
48:09.8
hindi yung mga DDS na nal,
48:10.9
kasi malakas yung mga dilawan doon, eh.
48:12.5
Sila ang inaaway ko sa Twitter,
48:14.1
you know,
48:14.4
usually,
48:14.9
di ba?
48:15.6
Oo.
48:16.5
Kitang-kita mo yan,
48:17.5
di ba?
48:18.1
Pero sa YouTube,
48:19.1
pansin ko,
48:20.2
gumanda na,
48:20.7
hindi na gano'ng,
48:21.6
like,
48:22.5
I'm looking at the comments right now.
48:24.0
Actually,
48:24.3
maganda ng YouTube,
48:25.1
hindi na gano'ng patoxic.
48:27.7
Hindi,
48:27.9
kasi nawala ng interest, eh.
48:29.5
Ah.
48:29.8
After BBM1,
48:31.6
for one and a half years,
48:33.3
nawala ng interest ng tao.
48:34.2
Kasi siguro,
48:35.6
iniisip ko,
48:36.6
ah,
48:38.0
he's a boring president.
48:39.6
Di ba?
48:39.8
I'm not saying that as,
48:40.9
as,
48:41.2
as a,
48:41.6
parang insult or ano,
48:42.7
yun lang talaga yung style niya.
48:43.8
Detox.
48:44.5
Detox.
48:45.1
Parang ibang trend sa boring,
48:45.5
di ba?
48:45.6
Detox.
48:46.0
Detox.
48:46.5
Oo.
48:47.4
So,
48:47.7
unlike bigong 24-hour news cycle,
48:49.8
araw-araw,
48:50.5
may bandita,
48:51.0
may kaaway,
48:52.1
si BBM,
48:52.8
ano eh,
48:53.2
boring.
48:53.5
So,
48:53.6
yung mga tao,
48:54.2
nagahanap ng ibang away,
48:55.3
di ba?
48:55.9
So,
48:56.1
napunta sila sa Igbo,
48:57.2
napunta sila sa,
48:58.3
so,
48:58.6
kung ibang away,
48:59.3
yung pinag-invite na,
49:00.2
so,
49:00.3
I think ganun eh.
49:01.3
But,
49:01.6
it would intensify ulit,
49:03.1
kapag yung nangyari na,
49:04.5
yung pinag-usapan natin,
49:05.4
the previous episode,
49:06.4
di ba?
49:07.0
Pero,
49:07.5
yun nga,
49:08.5
kung yung sa mga things,
49:10.3
if you're,
49:10.7
if you're,
49:11.5
open to vlogging na ganun,
49:13.3
tapos,
49:13.8
naniniwala ka doon sa,
49:15.4
mga pinaglalaban nila Lenny,
49:16.7
nila Risa,
49:17.8
or,
49:18.4
mga,
49:18.8
mga kailangan din na-share
49:20.0
ng mga Risa vloggers,
49:21.7
kasi sa ngayon,
49:22.3
wala.
49:23.3
Di ba?
49:23.5
Oo nga,
49:23.8
pati nga si Risa rin,
49:24.8
hindi siya ganun ka-active.
49:25.8
I mean,
49:25.9
she has a page right now,
49:27.1
I've been checking it out,
49:28.2
but you're right eh.
49:29.5
So,
49:29.9
can you go ahead and give advice,
49:31.8
the same way na you convinced me
49:33.0
to be more active on social media, bro?
49:34.6
Thank you so much.
49:35.2
By the way,
49:35.5
that's one reason na,
49:36.7
mahal kita bro,
49:38.0
kasi,
49:38.3
kasi,
49:39.2
I'll be honest,
49:40.0
ako naman,
49:40.5
hindi ko naman concerned yung mababash ako,
49:42.1
sanay na ako mabash,
49:43.1
di ba?
49:43.3
For me,
49:43.7
it was like,
49:44.4
is it worth my time?
49:46.1
Hindi pa parang stressful yan,
49:47.3
gano'n.
49:47.6
Parang ikaw nag-explain,
49:48.4
di ba,
49:48.5
madali lang yan,
49:49.3
ganito,
49:49.6
ganyan,
49:50.0
tsaka it's worth the effort,
49:55.9
napaka-interesado na sumali.
49:57.5
Hindi kasing galing ni Banat,
49:58.8
ba'y mag-Banat,
49:59.7
maybe hindi kasing galing ni Mark Gamboa,
50:01.4
mag-follow na it,
50:02.1
Bulaga Developments,
50:03.6
but you know,
50:04.0
they have something,
50:05.2
or a thing or two to share,
50:07.1
and also to make sure yung YouTube
50:08.5
and na social media,
50:09.7
may diverse yung content.
50:12.9
Hindi kasi,
50:13.6
sa akin,
50:14.3
if you do believe,
50:15.3
if you're really passionate,
50:17.0
I saw that naman last elections
50:18.5
from the Pink Movement eh,
50:20.2
kung gano'ng kapasyonate yung mga tao nando'n.
50:22.7
Yung mga supporters na Lisa,
50:24.2
nakita ko din,
50:24.9
passionate.
50:25.4
Kung mga youth,
50:25.9
na passion lang,
50:27.2
and turn it to a career
50:29.5
that will earn you more
50:31.5
than a regular job,
50:32.6
regular day job.
50:34.0
Talagang maganda.
50:34.9
And ngayon,
50:35.5
kumpara nung tayo ni Digo,
50:37.0
mas safe maging
50:37.9
Lisa blogger
50:39.8
than yung blogger.
50:41.4
Di ba?
50:41.6
Hindi kasing toxic
50:43.9
nung talagang awayan before.
50:46.7
So,
50:48.2
yun nga,
50:48.6
yun ang nakikita kong kulang siguro.
50:50.6
If the opposition
50:52.1
is looking at Lisa
50:53.2
as one of the future
50:55.0
standard
50:55.5
bearers of the party,
50:56.9
of the movement,
50:58.2
there should be
50:59.0
Lisa bloggers
51:00.4
na talagang
51:01.2
ang nila
51:02.0
suguro yung audience
51:03.4
following Lisa.
51:04.8
Ano ba ang standard
51:05.8
Lisa dito?
51:07.1
Ano ba ang standard
51:07.7
Lisa sa gano'n?
51:08.8
Inaway siya yung
51:09.6
isa yung ganito, ha?
51:10.5
So,
51:10.7
ire-report ko yun.
51:11.8
So,
51:12.1
the same way na
51:12.8
ako and I did isko,
51:14.6
di ba?
51:14.8
Everything about isko.
51:16.5
Lahat mong maaway sa kanya,
51:17.9
lahat mong
51:18.8
lahat mong
51:19.6
mga projects niya,
51:21.2
lahat mong magaganda.
51:22.4
So,
51:22.6
reason needs
51:23.5
a more gumbo of her own.
51:24.9
Reason needs
51:25.6
her own more gumbo, ha?
51:27.9
Parang gano'n.
51:28.5
Yeah, something.
51:29.3
Hindi, kasi bro, tama ka.
51:30.3
Sorry, again, I'm cutting it.
51:31.2
Na-excite ako sa topic ito
51:32.5
kasi,
51:32.8
kasi yung left,
51:34.3
yung makabayan nyo,
51:35.4
parang meron din sila
51:36.3
maraming bagong mga
51:37.1
vloggers na interesting.
51:38.4
And in fact,
51:38.8
may mga progressive vloggers
51:39.9
like si Matilda,
51:41.2
yung ano,
51:41.8
yung magpaposte siya,
51:42.7
yung tatalong siya sa poste
51:43.7
ng ganyan-ganyan,
51:44.6
ganyan-ganyan,
51:44.9
tapos,
51:45.5
jaran!
51:46.4
I broke forward
51:47.5
kasi sobrang,
51:48.6
sobrang the best yun
51:49.6
si Matilda.
51:50.1
Tapos, pag-usapan niya
51:51.1
yung mga welga,
51:52.9
pag-usapan niya
51:53.5
yung mga rallies,
51:54.5
yung mga usapin talagang
51:55.4
masa-masa,
51:56.4
pero galing sa
51:57.3
progressive side.
51:58.4
So, actually,
51:59.3
in fairness,
51:59.7
maraming mga gen Z,
52:01.2
mga kabataan,
52:01.9
uy, mga bata,
52:03.2
na mga 20s,
52:04.4
mga ganyan-ganyan,
52:04.8
na pumapasok dito.
52:05.9
So, tama ka,
52:06.6
yung medyo kulang
52:07.3
is yung center-left,
52:08.7
no?
52:09.2
Or center-center.
52:11.0
Ah, well,
52:11.2
liberals, marami rin eh.
52:13.0
Center-left ang kulang.
52:14.7
Tama ka.
52:16.5
Diba,
52:17.0
many people are looking
52:18.2
at traffic tool for
52:19.1
as a possible
52:19.8
presidential candidate.
52:21.3
Marami na ngayon
52:22.0
mga raffi-bloggers.
52:23.2
Marami nating
52:23.6
anti-raffi-bloggers.
52:25.5
Diba?
52:25.8
So, meron eh.
52:26.7
May naglalaban eh.
52:28.2
Pero, like,
52:28.9
if Risa,
52:29.5
if you're looking at her
52:30.4
as a future leader,
52:31.9
dapat,
52:32.2
you should start
52:33.2
developing that audience
52:34.7
na po-follows
52:35.9
every day.
52:37.0
Kasi gano'n sa YouTube,
52:38.4
eh.
52:38.9
Ah, yung mga DDS,
52:40.3
yung mga painter,
52:41.3
mag-nanonood sila
52:42.0
araw-araw, eh.
52:42.8
Ano bang conflict ngayon?
52:43.9
Ano bang ginawa
52:44.4
ni Risa ngayon?
52:45.5
Nagkaroon ng ganitong issue,
52:46.9
anong reaction ni Risa?
52:47.7
Anong, ay inaaway si Risa?
52:50.3
O kung sino man,
52:50.9
kung si Chello,
52:52.3
kung si Bang,
52:53.3
o kung sino man
52:54.0
ang next in line
52:54.9
for the,
52:55.7
ano, for the
52:56.5
paint.
52:57.4
Yung sa TikTok,
52:58.1
maganda din naman.
52:59.0
Yung mga, yung mga,
53:00.2
yung mga,
53:00.8
ibang, ano,
53:01.5
ibang pink na
53:02.9
supporting,
53:04.6
supporting yung
53:05.8
pink movement
53:06.6
dun sa TikTok.
53:07.3
Kasi, syempre,
53:07.8
hindi gano'n ka-sustainable
53:08.7
kasi,
53:09.1
wala namang kita
53:10.8
per video.
53:12.6
On that note,
53:13.4
thank you very much, Brock.
53:14.1
Medyo pinalis na.
53:15.1
Kung may naman naman
53:15.7
dito sa province,
53:16.5
medyo mabilis kami.
53:17.7
Hindi naman kami provincial
53:18.6
sa Baguio,
53:19.3
pero medyo, ano,
53:20.5
kailangan namin magsara
53:21.3
ng Baguio.
53:21.9
No, I really appreciate it.
53:22.9
Thank you so much, bro,
53:23.7
for mentioning
53:24.3
Percy Lapid.
53:26.3
Percy Lapid being really
53:27.7
the, uh,
53:28.4
the, the pioneer here.
53:29.9
And you're right,
53:30.7
yung base na nability
53:31.8
Percy Lapid,
53:33.0
yun yung nagsusustain
53:34.0
ng mga ibang
53:34.7
rising vloggers
53:35.9
na progressive
53:36.5
at may mga panindigan
53:38.5
sa buhay, et cetera.
53:39.4
So, I really appreciate it.
53:40.5
I really appreciate also
53:41.5
our collaboration.
53:42.7
Even yung mga
53:43.4
collaboration natin
53:44.3
with people from the other side
53:45.6
na tinitrol tayo ngayon
53:46.7
at saka followers natin.
53:47.7
So, then,
53:48.3
but, uh,
53:50.2
I also wish the best, bro,
53:51.4
dun sa case mo sa Facebook.
53:52.6
Itutrol natin ang Facebook
53:53.6
sa Monday onwards.
53:54.8
Sabat day na bukas.
53:55.8
So, I have to get out of the,
53:57.5
alam mo naman,
53:57.9
social media.
53:58.5
But, don't worry.
53:59.9
Paglaban natin,
54:00.7
and, bro,
54:01.2
you didn't deserve
54:02.0
what happened to you.
54:03.2
But, surely,
54:04.0
this should be a basis
54:04.8
for us to complain
54:05.5
para ayos ayusin na nila.
54:06.8
But, alam mo naman,
54:07.6
ikaw, bro,
54:08.9
winner ka pa rin.
54:09.7
Ang dami mo na ako
54:10.4
ang views sa mga
54:11.0
Idbolaga and all.
54:11.9
Mukhang tapos na yata
54:12.5
yung chapter na yan, no?
54:13.4
Paghanap ka ng bago
54:14.2
entertainment.
54:14.5
Tapos na din, eh.
54:15.3
Tapos na din yung issue.
54:16.1
Panalo na din.
54:17.0
Panalo na.
54:18.6
So, ano na.
54:19.9
Election season na ang next, eh.
54:21.3
Yun na ang next na
54:22.0
magulo na naman.
54:24.6
Palik na naman
54:25.1
yung toxic sa buhay ko.
54:26.3
Nakala ka.
54:26.7
Napahinga ako na isang taon, eh.
54:28.2
Ano na naman.
54:29.3
Palik ka na naman.
54:30.6
Palik ka.
54:31.3
Magulo na naman.
54:32.8
Alright.
54:33.3
On that note,
54:33.7
thank you so much sa'yo,
54:35.0
Mark Gamboa,
54:35.9
joining us.
54:36.6
The blogger extraordinaire.
54:38.6
Our very good friend.
54:40.4
And I'm sure
54:40.9
tuloy-tuloy
54:41.4
ang success mo this year.
54:43.1
God willing,
54:43.4
and thank you also
54:44.5
dun sa followers na.
54:45.5
We have also friends
54:46.6
from Malaysia.
54:47.4
Hazlin Abdulhamid
54:48.4
joining us.
54:49.3
Friends DDS.
54:50.4
Friends BBMers.
54:51.8
Friends Pink.
54:53.3
Andami natin
54:53.8
mga followers,
54:54.5
supporters.
54:54.9
Actually,
54:55.2
yung YouTube medyo mas wild, eh.
54:56.9
Pansin ko yung YouTube
54:57.6
following ko,
54:58.2
sobrang diverse.
54:59.9
Unlike yung Facebook
55:00.9
and Twitter ko.
55:01.8
Medyo alam ko na.
55:02.4
Pero ito,
55:02.8
very diverse.
55:03.4
So, thank you.
55:03.7
Yung YouTube mo,
55:04.0
lumalakang pa.
55:04.6
Congrats.
55:05.1
Oh, thank you.
55:05.7
Of course, bro.
55:06.4
Medyo nag-gets ko na
55:07.3
how to make it work, eh.
55:08.9
Nung una,
55:09.4
parang nailang ako, eh.
55:10.8
But napansin.
55:11.6
At next na gagawin natin, bro,
55:13.2
mag-TikTok live na tayo.
55:14.5
May mga nagme-message sa akin
55:15.5
sa TikTok na
55:16.3
mag-live ka na rin, sir,
55:18.2
dito para makita ka namin.
55:19.9
So, in the future,
55:21.2
set up din tayo
55:21.8
ng TikTok live.
55:22.6
Sorry,
55:23.1
walang internet masyado ngayon
55:24.1
kaya itong dalawa lang
55:25.1
nahihapan na.
55:26.0
Thank you, bro.
55:26.6
God bless you.
55:27.3
Happy New Year.
55:28.1
And God willing,
55:29.5
mayayos na rin yung issue mo
55:30.5
and dadami pa rin
55:31.7
yung followers mo
55:32.4
and yung engagement mo.
55:33.5
Talk to you soon, bro.
55:35.2
Bye-bye.
55:39.0
Thank you very much, guys.
55:40.1
Maraming salamat.
55:41.0
At pasensyon na
55:41.6
kailangan namin malays
55:43.2
kasi hanggang 9.30 lang
55:44.3
yung mga dito sa
55:45.3
sa amin sa Baguio.
55:47.1
God bless.
55:47.7
Talk to you soon.
55:48.4
And I'll post ko rin
55:49.1
yung ibang version na ito
55:49.9
para makita nyo naman
55:51.0
yung pogi natang kausap.
55:52.1
Alright?
55:52.7
Talk to you soon.