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00:00.0
Good evening guys, welcome po to tonight's episode of Facts First.
00:27.3
Ako po si Christian Esguerra. Pasensya na kayo, medyo na-late tayo ng pagsisimula.
00:32.0
We are 4 minutes late kasi chineche ko internet connection ko.
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Medyo nag-speedtest ako, mabilis eh. More than 100 Mbps.
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Pero bakit kaya ganun? Medyo nag-freeze ako kanina.
00:43.0
Pero I hope okay naman. Kaya shoutout sa Sky Cable.
00:46.4
Sana tuloy-tuloy tayo ngayong gabi. Kakabayad ko lang sa inyo.
00:49.3
Ang pag-uusapan po natin ngayong gabi, pag-uusapan po natin itong galawa na paritan o amyandahan
00:56.0
yung ating 1987 Constitution.
00:58.4
So, binanggit naman po ito bago matapos yung taon last year.
01:03.0
Binanggit ito ng House Speaker Ferdinand Martin Romualde.
01:07.0
Sinasabi nila, pag-resume ng Kongreso, pag-simula ng bagong taon,
01:12.6
isa yan sa mga priorities nila.
01:14.9
Yung amyandahan po yung ating Constitution, yung 1987 Constitution.
01:19.0
Hindi na po bago yung discussion na yan dahil in every administration almost,
01:24.3
lagi may nagsusulong na paritan, amyandahan o talagang rebisahin yung 1987 Constitution.
01:31.5
So, konting paglilinaw lang po.
01:33.5
Pag sinabing amenda Constitution, so specific provisions po yung paparitan.
01:37.5
Pero pag-revision, so basically we're talking of overhauling the 1987 Constitution.
01:43.5
So, pag-uusapan natin. Kasi lalo sinabi recently ni Liberal Party President Albay Representative Edsel Lagman.
01:53.4
Talagang he blew the whistle.
01:54.4
Sabi niya, oh teka, mayroong mga galawan na paritan yung ating Constitution
02:00.3
gamit yung tinatawag na People's Initiative o basically Signature Campaign.
02:04.7
At nangyari yan, sa kanyang lugar, ang warning niya, nagkakaroon daw ng bayaran.
02:11.4
So, mayroon daw inooffer na pera doon po sa mga mag-a-affix ng kanilang signature
02:16.2
in support of the People's Initiative.
02:18.5
Kung toko man, medyo nakaka-alarma yun. Bakit kailangan magkabayaran?
02:21.3
Una-una, naiintindihan ba ng nakararami sa ating kung anong pinapasok nila?
02:26.9
O baka naman nabobola ng ilang mga politiko.
02:29.8
So, yun po yung pag-uusapan natin ngayong gabi.
02:31.7
I invited someone who worked in an administration or under a president
02:36.4
kung saan pwede nating sabihin na yung isong Pangulo hindi nagsulong na amyendahan o revisahin yung 1987 Constitution.
02:45.5
I'm talking of course the late President, sorry, the late President Binigno Aquino.
02:51.3
The third and the last pa yun.
02:53.3
Puro Marcos kasi pinag-uusapan natin ngayon.
02:56.1
So, I'd like to welcome to our program si former Secretary Edwin Lacerda.
03:03.9
Magandang gabi, sir, and thank you for joining us again dito po sa Facts First.
03:09.2
Magandang gabi, Christian, and congrats sa very successful mong YouTube channel.
03:14.8
I watch it also, although on a delayed basis lang.
03:18.0
Pero parati ko sinusundan yan.
03:23.4
Matagal na tayo hindi nakikita o nakakausap.
03:25.7
Pero naalala ko kayo, no?
03:27.2
Manganap nga ako ng isang opisyal na nagtrabaho sa ilalim ng isang presidente.
03:32.3
Ika, kung saan pwede sabihin na hindi nag-push ng charter change, no?
03:35.8
Noong panahon nyo walang ganun coming from the President, ha?
03:38.7
Wala kaming overt na talagang planong mag-amenda ng Constitution.
03:43.5
Although meron mga nagmumungkahay kay Pangulo Aquino na amendahin ng Constitution,
03:51.3
nung panahon na kasagsagan ng maganda yung ekonomiya, mataas ang kanyang popularidad.
03:56.9
So, those are the elements pwedeng to take advantage para mag-amendahin ng Constitution.
04:02.5
Pero hindi niya ginawa.
04:03.9
Nga pala, matanong ko na lang, ha?
04:05.4
Bago tayo lumusong sa malalim na diskusyon, ano ba mas magandang role?
04:12.6
Yung kayo yung nasa gobyerno, yung tagasagot, o yung medyo ganitong galawan, medyo political analyst?
04:21.3
Mas mabuti na yung on the sideline na lang.
04:23.6
Kasi pag nasa gobyerno ka, it's a, may psychic reward, no?
04:27.9
Magandang nagsiservisyo ka sa sambayanan, pero there's no, ano talaga, tuloy-tuloy ang, ano mo, ang hirap mo.
04:34.5
At saka yung, you have a, it's a thankless job, literally a thankless job.
04:38.9
Medyo naghang yata si Secretary Lacerda, no?
04:48.3
Hello, Christian.
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Ako pala yung naghang.
04:52.0
Nadidinig niyo ako?
04:53.4
Oh, I can hear you.
04:55.9
Tuloy lang, tuloy lang.
04:57.3
Sasabi ito itong internet ko eh.
04:59.5
It's a thankless job, pero it's, it's a, I wouldn't exchange it for ano.
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Maganda yung, masarap yung, very rewarding yung anim na taon na pagservisyo sa pamahalan kay Pangulo Aquino at sa sambayanan.
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Hindi mo ipagpapalitin yung gano'ng karanasan.
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It's a privileged work for the people.
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Pag-usapan nga natin ito, no?
05:19.3
Na nag-warn si, ah...
05:21.3
Congressman Edsel Lagman na nagkakaroon doon ng bayaran in exchange for people, for people to affix their signatures dito sa People's Initiative, no?
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Una-una, paki-explain niya, ano ba itong People's Initiative as one of three modes, no, to amend the Constitution?
05:38.2
Bago ng 1987 Constitution, dalawa lang ang mode of amending the Constitution, no?
05:44.3
Yung tinatawag na Constitutional Convention, magpapatawag ng mga...
05:48.4
Kung baga nag-e-elect ka ng miyembro ng...
05:51.3
Para maging members ng isang Constitutional Convention, napapalitan at pag-aaralan ng bagong saligang batas at magagawa ng bagong saligang batas.
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Yun, hindi ito mga...
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From the public talaga yan, pwedeng to run and run for a Constitutional Convention.
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Yung pangalawang tinatawag na Constituent Assembly, na yung Kongreso, House and Senate, will form into a Constituent Assembly
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at sila mismo ang magsususog ng mga amienda ng saligang batas.
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Pero dahil sa People's Power Revolution, napag-isipan ng mga Constitutional Commissioners, 1986,
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nung ginagawa yung bagong saligang batas, how do we memorialize people power?
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And one of the things that they decided to do, which is to honor people power,
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is bigyan ang sambayanan, ang karapatan na mag-amenda, hindi lang ng batas, hindi lang ng ordinansa, pati ang saligang batas.
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Kaya nagkaroon ng third na pangatumparaan para mag-amenda ng saligang batas.
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So that's what they call...
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Kaya sa 1987 Constitution, nandoon ang People's Initiative.
06:57.0
Pero hindi ito madali, no? Pag sinabing People's Initiative, you need to reach a certain threshold of the number of signatures
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vis-a-vis the number of registered voters per legislative district, no? Tama ba?
07:10.1
Correct. Ang formula is 12-3. 12% of the total registered voters and 3% from each legislative district.
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So ganun karami dapat na i-compact.
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I-comply mo yung number na requirements para maging valid na People's Initiative.
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Pero ang sinasabi ng ating... Uunahan ko na rin, no? Yung sa diskusyon ng saligang batas.
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Sinasabi ni Speaker Martin Romualdez na we will use...
07:34.2
And si Senator Robin Padilla, sinabi rin niya na we will do amend the Constitution in the form of a People's Initiative.
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Pero yung People's Initiative sa saligang batas, hindi yan self-executory.
07:47.0
Kaya yung nakasulat sa saligang batas, pwede nang gawin.
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So nagkaroon ng isang batas, ang tinatawag Republic Act 6735, yung People's Initiative Law, no?
07:58.6
Kung saan, inakyat sa Supreme Court yung RA number 6735.
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At sinabi ng saligang batas na it is an inadequate framework to amend the Constitution.
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So wala tayong existing batas ngayon na para gumawa ng People's Initiative.
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yung mga Constitutional Commissioners in 1986,
08:26.0
Tama sinabi mo kanina, no?
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Christian, there are two ways of changing the Constitution.
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One, by way of amending.
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Yung pangalawa, yung tinatawag na revision.
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Yung revision is a total overhaul of the Constitution or hindi siya total overhaul,
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pero may fundamental shift in principles ng saligang batas.
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So, pwedeng for instance,
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isang simple provision,
08:51.3
of changing the structure from presidential to parliamentary,
08:56.7
Because you're fundamentally changing the structure of government.
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Pero ang amendment,
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pero ang sinasabi ng ating mga Constitutional Commissioners,
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na ang initiative,
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hindi mo pwedeng gamitin yan para sa revision.
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Pang-amenda lang yan.
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So, yung amenda...
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But yung hindi siya...
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Ang bottom line doon,
09:19.0
how you consider it as amendment?
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Amendment or revision,
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depende kung total overhaul,
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papil-tambu, that's one.
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Or, pangalawa, another form of revision,
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magbabago yung prinsipyo ng saligang batas.
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For instance, from presidential to parliamentary,
09:36.5
maraming mga ano yan eh,
09:38.0
there are principles involved, no?
09:40.0
So, pwede lang ang people to use it.
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Pag-amendment lang.
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Nakasort ba yan mismo sa Constitution?
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Is that spelled out clearly?
09:51.9
Sige, people's initiative.
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Pang-amendment lang talaga.
09:55.6
It says amendment lang,
09:57.0
pero some people,
09:58.1
ang iniisip nila,
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pag sinabi mong amendment,
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kasama si revision.
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Hindi gano'ng kasimple yun.
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ang Constitutional Convention,
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Constitutional Assembly,
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pwede sila mag-revise
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and amend the Constitution.
10:10.6
Pero ang people's initiative,
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limitado lang sa pag-amenda ng Constitution.
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Yan ang naging klarong diskusyon
10:17.0
sa Constitutional Commission
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when they were debating,
10:20.3
para saan ba pwedeng gamitin
10:22.0
ang people's initiative.
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merong mga matatalinong tao,
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yung talagang napaka-busilak
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ng kanilang intensyon.
10:30.3
Hindi nang sabihan eh.
10:32.3
mas pahabain ang termino
10:37.3
Pwede bang gamitin doon
10:38.3
yung people's initiative?
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O dapat dumaan doon sa two other modes
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of changing the Constitution
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The safest really,
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para walang diskusyon,
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amendment or amendment,
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bato or revision,
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idaan mo na lang sa
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either constituent
10:53.2
or Constitutional Convention.
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Pagdating sa pangatlo,
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whether is it an amendment
10:59.2
dadaan yan sa tingin ko,
11:00.2
aabot tayo ng Supreme Court dyan.
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Kasi may kanyang-kanyang kuro-kuro
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kung anong amendment,
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Even if I tell you,
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if you totally overhaul the Constitution,
11:10.2
talagang revision yan.
11:14.2
one or two provisions?
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doon sa unang ginamit yung
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kaya sinabi ng Saligang Batas na
11:26.2
ay hindi adequate to
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amend the Constitution,
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may isang petition to
11:33.2
lift the term limits.
11:35.2
Yun na naging issue.
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Pero doon sa diskusyon na yun,
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sa decision na yun,
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hindi sinabi kung yung
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lifting the term limits,
11:42.2
is it an amendment
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or is it a revision?
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Because they went straight and said
11:48.2
is not an adequate framework
11:50.2
to amend the Constitution.
11:52.2
that was in 1997.
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nag-file ng kaso si Lambino
11:58.2
commonly yung kanyang petition.
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ang kanyang petition was to
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change from unicameral
12:12.2
to lift the term limits also
12:13.2
of the present or
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if I recall that, no?
12:17.2
doon nagkaroon ng diskusyon,
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ano ba ang revision,
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ano ba ang amendment?
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So, doon, pero hindi,
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yun ang sinabi lang na,
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doon sa kaso ng Lambino
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dinismiss yung petition ni,
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yung People's Initiative
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hindi nakasama doon sa petisyon
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yung actual provision na,
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actual language ng amended provision
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na gusto nyo mangyari.
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do you want to amend the Constitution,
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do you want to convert from
12:49.2
bicameral to unicameral?
12:51.2
Yun lang ang tanong,
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nagpirmahan ng tao.
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Ang sabi ng Supreme Court,
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Kailangan yung buong proposal mo,
12:57.2
yung amendment mismo,
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sa petition na pinapapirma mo
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So, yun, on that,
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on those two counts,
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two incidents of People's Initiative
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dinismiss ng Supreme Court.
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I'd like to take off from that also, no?
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Kasi binagit nyo kanina na
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the idea was to memorialize people power
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by allowing them to have a direct hand
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in case they want to amend the Constitution.
13:22.2
Kaya nagkaroon ng People's Initiative.
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Pero that was during the 1986
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Constitutional Commission.
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Ang tagal na, more than 30 years.
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I don't think na-envision na rin
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na magkakaroon ng
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data mining issues,
13:37.2
magkakaroon ng social media,
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data analytics that can be used to manipulate
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people's perception, no?
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hindi ba, parang, in reality,
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inadequate din ang People's Initiative?
13:50.2
Tulad ng binagit nyo kanina, diba?
13:52.2
Kunwara, hindi rin magpapirma.
13:53.2
Paritan natin itong, ano,
13:55.2
we shift from bicameral to unicameral.
13:58.2
Inaintindihan mo ng mga tao yun, diba?
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I mean, maraming gray areas na pwedeng makita
14:03.2
pag ginamit mo yung People's Initiative.
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It is very prone to manipulation.
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Kahit na walang social media, Christian,
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ang daling makapag-convince kung talagang,
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like sinabi ni Congressman Edsel Lagman,
14:18.2
lumalabas ang pera, diba?
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Kada election naman, eh.
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Kada election is an opportunity
14:27.2
the unfortunate for buying the electorate, eh.
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So, ito rin naman, lalabas din talaga ang pera
14:32.2
pagdating sa plebiscito
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o pagtirmahan ng, ano, ng
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initiative. And all the, as you said,
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social media is a means where
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people's minds can be manipulated.
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Yun ang challenge ngayon, no?
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Although talagang at that time, walang social media,
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but the manner of convincing people
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has been largely made easy because of the echo chambers, eh.
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So, talagang madaling, and the rise of social media,
15:03.2
mas mabilis mag-disseminate.
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Kasi dati, we depend on traditional media.
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We didn't have a YouTube channel like yours na
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can be an avenue also for discussions. Wala yan.
15:14.2
Everything is done through traditional media,
15:16.2
radio, TV. Limited ang, ano mo,
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limited ang source of information mo.
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Ngayon, anybody can just
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post anything sa social media
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and they can convince or
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persuade people to do one thing or
15:29.2
act on one, on certain actions, eh.
15:32.2
Talagang malaking opportunity.
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Okay. So, doon sa mga viewers natin ngayong gabi, no,
15:38.2
nilatagbo na natin yung legal issues
15:40.2
pagdating dito sa People's Initiative.
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Pwede na isuot ni Secretary Lacherdan
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yung kanyang political analyst hat, no?
15:47.2
Huwag naman tayo magpaka-na-aid dito sa discussion ng charter change, no?
15:51.2
Sa tingin nyo ba, meron itong kaugnayan,
15:53.2
itong isinusulong na pagbabago sa Constitution
15:57.2
dito sa ongoing naggirihan sa pagitan ng mga Marcos Romualdez
16:01.2
at ng mga Duterte?
16:07.2
Sorry, Christian, you're asking me kung ano yung ano?
16:10.2
Mukha bang ano yan? May connection ba yan?
16:13.2
Doon sa girihan sa pagitan ng mga Marcos Duterte?
16:19.2
Ito'y pagsusulong ng charter change.
16:23.2
What is the, what, ano ba talagang realidad ngayon?
16:26.2
Ang realidad ngayon, wala namang planong pinag-uusapan na
16:30.2
magkaroon ng second term si Pangulo Marcos.
16:35.2
So ngayon, ang tinatanong natin, yung amenda na gusto nilang mangyari
16:39.2
is basically to isang, ang ia-amend mo lang isang provision doon, Christian,
16:46.2
which is to turn the constituent assembly na voting jointly.
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Yun yung panukala, as far as I remember, ni Speaker Martin Romualdez.
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So what does that mean? Kasi ang ating sa ligang batas, may dalawang chamber.
17:08.2
Ang original plano ng Constitutional Commission kasi actually was just unicameral, isang chamber lang.
17:14.2
Ang nangyari, through the course of the discussion ng Constitutional Commission,
17:18.2
they decided instead of unicameral, gawin natin dalawang chamber.
17:21.2
So nagkaroon ng Senate, nagkaroon ng House.
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Unfortunately, in that particular provision, amenda or revision,
17:27.2
naging hindi na-amendahan to say na itong dalawang chambers,
17:31.2
when they're amending the Constitution, should be voting separately.
17:35.2
Ang sinabi lang, voting by three-fourths.
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Three-fourths of all its members.
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So obviously, hindi napalitan yung provision na yun to follow a bicameral bodies.
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So ang interpretation ng House, dahil mas marami sila,
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pag mag-amenda tayo ng Constitution, magkoconstituent assembly tayo,
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dapat boto yan ng three-fourths ng lahat ng miyembro.
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Meaning, Senate and House kasama, nagboboto jointly.
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Ang sabi ng Senate, teka, teka, teka.
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Dalawang body tayo. Kami, 24 kami. Kayo, marami kayo.
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Kung jointly yan, tagalit kami.
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So dapat, interpretation natin, dapat voting separately.
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Ang Senado, baboto three-fourths.
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Ang House, baboto sila three-fourths.
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Kaya doon nagkaroon ng, yan ang gustong palitan ni Speaker Romualdez.
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For the simple reason that it makes it easier for him to introduce amendments to the Constitution.
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Constituent assembly.
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Anong gusto niya? Jointly or separately?
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Jointly ang gusto niya.
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Anong gusto niya? Because Speaker, House eh.
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House is madaling.
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Madaling overwhelmed.
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You vote jointly, irrelevant ang Senate.
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It's the purpose of a two-chamber body.
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That's why, pag tanungin mo ang mga Constitutional Commissioners, yung buhay pa,
18:55.2
yung mga Commissioners sa buhay pa, sasabihin nila outright na idea namin is for them to vote separately
19:04.2
and to get three-fourths of the members separately.
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Hindi yung jointly yung House at saka Senate na baboto.
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Otherwise, it defeats the purpose of a two-chamber body.
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Eto sir, may follow-up question yung isa sa mga taga-suporta na mga Duterte.
19:18.2
Eto talagang lagi nanonood dito.
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Madalas mang troll ito eh.
19:23.2
Parang hindi nasagot ang tanong.
19:24.2
Ulitin ko na lang, no?
19:26.2
Eto bang pag-push ng pag-amenda sa Constitution?
19:29.2
Mukha ba may kinalaman ito dito sa ongoing nagirian?
19:33.2
On one side ng Marcos Romualdez versus the Dutertes.
19:39.2
Whenever you change the political provisions of the Constitution, may effect yan sa politics.
19:46.2
Now, what do we see here?
19:49.2
Ang alam natin kung di natatakbo si Pangulong Marcos, ang malakas talaga si Vice Presidente Duterte.
19:57.2
So how do you, how do you, how do you do, how do you defeat the purpose,
20:02.2
how do you defeat such a popular candidate constitutionally?
20:05.2
You change the system of government.
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But how do you change the system of government?
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First, you might, kailangan mo nang kontrolado yung constituent assembly.
20:14.2
Because doon pa punta ang initiative ni Speaker Martin Romualdez.
20:18.2
Na let's have the House and Senate constitute into a constituent assembly.
20:24.2
And then we will offer, then we will propose amendments to the Constitution.
20:28.2
Na would definitely be favorable to the Constitution.
20:30.2
Definitely be favorable to whoever intends to run in 2028.
20:36.2
Pwede palitan ang system of government.
20:40.2
Like from presidential to parliamentary.
20:43.2
Pag naging parliamentary yan, hindi na tayo kasama sa botohan ang sambayanan.
20:48.2
Sila sila nalang magbotohan kung sino magiging prime minister.
20:54.2
And by the way, sa totoo lang, when you, remember may mga surveys kami ginawa.
21:00.2
Ang Saligan Batas, sa totoo lang, medyo esoteric yan eh.
21:04.2
High level yan. Parang walang pakialam ang taong bayan dyan eh.
21:07.2
You ask them, we did a survey, alam mo ba ang Saligan Batas?
21:10.2
Practically, hindi nila alam ang Saligan Batas.
21:13.2
But, pag tatanggalin nyo sa kanila ang karapatan ihalal ang presidente directly, aalma yan.
21:23.2
Doon nagkakaroon ng galit yung sambayanan at buboto yan.
21:28.2
Ayaw nilang matanggal sa kanila yung karapatan na ihalal ang presidente, ang pinaka punong ministro ng bayan.
21:36.2
So, that might be a problem kung yan ang gagawin nila.
21:39.2
Actually, totoo yan eh. And then, consistent sa mga surveys before, na talagang hindi ganun kataas ang level ng kaalaman ng maraming Pilipino pagdating sa 1987 Constitution.
21:50.2
Siguro liba na lang, no? Kay Sen. Robin Hood Padilla, na siyang tagapamuno ng Senate Committee on Constitutional Administration.
21:58.2
...amendments and revision of laws, tama ba?
22:00.2
Talagang siyang bibo, masugid at masigasig.
22:04.2
Nagsusulong yan. Pero at least meron siyang plataforma na sinusulong eh, no?
22:08.2
Pero yun nga. So mukhang yung ano, tao dito...
22:13.2
Ang question kasi rito, again, sorry, ilalatag ko lang ng konti.
22:17.2
Kasi by talking about that context that I mentioned, yung konteks ng Marcos vs. Dutertes, ayaw ko namang i-lionize o maggawing martir naman yung one side, no?
22:27.2
One side, no? Or other side.
22:29.0
Ang point ko dito, lagi may political aspect dito.
22:31.6
Lagi nilang sinasabi is that
22:33.1
pag nagsulong naman sila ng amendment,
22:38.1
Pero hindi ba, pag let's say,
22:39.3
binuksan mo na yung Constitution,
22:40.7
let's say, in a Constituent Assembly,
22:42.6
ibig sabihin, yung mga member ng Kongreso,
22:44.6
Senate and the House of Representatives,
22:46.2
o Constitutional Convention,
22:47.9
meron silang tinatawag na plenary powers, eh, no?
22:50.1
Miski bago man mabuo yun,
22:51.7
sinabi nila, ah, economic provisions na yung gagawin namin.
22:54.9
Eh, pag nandun na, nandun eh.
22:57.2
Kahit ano pwede nang pakialaman sa Constitution.
23:01.3
I'll tell you a situation noong panahon namin.
23:04.2
The economic managers of our team also felt,
23:07.0
some of them felt,
23:08.1
na kailangan natin amendahin ang Constitution.
23:10.9
Para sa kanila, palitan natin yung economic provisions.
23:13.7
Pero si Pinoy, sabi niya,
23:15.0
exactly what you said, Christian.
23:19.3
Pag binuksan natin yung pintuang yan,
23:21.4
hindi lang naman economic provisions ang ipapasok dyan eh,
23:28.9
napapalitan din ang political provisions.
23:30.8
At hindi mo maaalisan.
23:32.1
Nakarapatan nila yan.
23:33.3
Once you open the door for amendments,
23:35.6
you not only allow the change in the provisions of the economic,
23:39.2
the economic provisions of the Constitution,
23:42.7
you likewise open the door for amending the political provisions.
23:46.5
At yan yung pampagulo.
23:50.6
even the economic provisions,
23:52.2
ayaw ni Pinoy palitan.
23:53.7
hindi naman yan ang talagang problema ng bayan eh.
23:55.6
Hindi naman kaagad ang palitan natin sa Ligang Batas
23:58.5
and that will cure all the problems.
24:01.3
Ang sabi nga ni Pangulo Aquino,
24:03.3
nakipag-usap kami sa ibang mga economic team na ano,
24:06.0
dalawa lang naman ang kailangan natin gawin sa bayan natin eh.
24:09.3
Hindi mo kailangan palitan ng economic provisions.
24:13.1
level playing field,
24:14.8
pantay-pantay lahat.
24:17.1
walang palakasan.
24:18.6
predictability ng business rules.
24:23.8
gusto nila boring yung mga rules.
24:25.6
Yung hindi pinapalitan.
24:27.5
mag-i-invest ako ngayon.
24:28.6
Pagpasok yung investment mo sa kaligitnaan,
24:30.5
babago na naman ng rules.
24:32.4
May inis yung tao
24:33.6
because I invested under these premises,
24:36.0
under all these rules.
24:38.9
You don't change horses midstream.
24:41.8
And that's what we did in the six years.
24:44.6
We were very predictable.
24:46.2
We leveled the playing field.
24:47.8
Kaya ang daming pumasok.
24:49.9
and we have proven that,
24:51.1
na pwedeng mangyari yan
24:52.0
without amending the constitution.
24:56.2
outmoded na yung economic provisions.
24:58.7
E yung ginawa nila
24:59.4
Senator Delon last time,
25:01.2
yung Public Service Act,
25:04.1
and maraming hindi na dati
25:05.9
bawal sa foreigners,
25:08.1
Kung pwedeng gawin yan,
25:09.9
there are workarounds there.
25:12.2
kaya ang takot ni Pangulo Aquino
25:14.1
if I open that up,
25:15.3
I will open the political provisions.
25:18.6
itong sinasabi ko,
25:19.7
they're not exempted to that also.
25:22.4
Siguradong may mag-get the advantage.
25:25.6
that's during your time,
25:28.5
nasa 2024 na tayo.
25:31.4
Let's talk about the timing.
25:32.8
Do you think it's time to
25:35.2
consider amending those
25:37.7
economic provisions
25:42.3
if you're looking at
25:43.4
how the Marcos administration
25:46.1
has been crowing about
25:47.3
all these commitments,
25:48.4
all these pledges,
25:49.3
all these opening
25:50.1
to the west of investments,
25:53.3
it seems like you don't need to
25:55.6
change economic provisions.
25:58.9
isang bagay na sinasabi,
26:00.7
let's open foreign ownership
26:04.0
look at the economy of China.
26:05.5
They never opened
26:06.6
foreign ownership
26:08.8
economy prospered.
26:10.5
There are basic rules
26:11.4
wherein you don't need
26:12.4
to change economic provisions
26:13.8
and there are many workarounds
26:16.0
towards making laws
26:18.3
more foreign investments
26:20.4
liberalize policy,
26:22.9
predictability of business rules
26:24.5
and leveling the playing field.
26:26.7
they still want to do that
26:27.7
but there's no guarantee.
26:28.9
Ang takot talaga natin lahat.
26:31.3
Palitan mo yung economic provisions,
26:33.7
you allow foreigners to come in,
26:35.4
ano effecto rin sa local?
26:36.6
I'm sure there will be people
26:41.0
are being disadvantaged.
26:42.5
But more than that,
26:44.4
yung sinasabi natin,
26:45.8
yung political provisions.
26:47.9
As it is right now,
26:50.2
one-term rule ng presidente
26:51.3
allows for a transition
26:53.3
of political leadership.
26:55.6
Parang tuloy-tuloy
26:57.2
Remember during the martial law,
26:58.7
ang sinasabi nga natin,
27:00.9
ng political leaders
27:02.6
kasi naging diktatoria,
27:04.6
talagang wala na train
27:07.1
there's a continuous
27:07.9
transition of leaders
27:10.0
at yun ang nagkakaroon
27:18.2
somebody's going to be
27:20.4
Now, if you change it na naman,
27:25.6
Ang takot natin lahat
27:28.7
is actually more than
27:29.8
the economic provisions,
27:30.9
it's the political instability
27:32.7
if you change it again.
27:37.4
We've been successfully
27:39.3
transitioning from
27:40.4
one president to another.
27:42.0
Although the quality
27:45.8
but the transition
27:46.7
has always been consistent.
27:48.8
Yan yung predictability
27:50.0
na sinasabi natin
27:51.0
on the political side.
27:52.6
Kung tatanggalin mo yan,
27:54.0
magkakaroon ng instability
27:55.6
sa agam-agam ngayon
27:56.5
ng ating mga foreign investors
27:57.7
and also our domestic investors.
28:03.6
Although sometimes,
28:05.1
the quality of the president
28:09.6
Hindi mas sometimes,
28:15.8
merong hindi masyado.
28:17.0
Merong mukhang hindi
28:17.8
dapat taging presidente.
28:19.7
Uy, wala akong sinasabing
28:24.5
yung political provisions,
28:25.6
ito yung sinusulong
28:26.5
na kagalang-galang
28:27.4
sa Nato Robin Hood Padilla.
28:32.7
political provisions.
28:35.8
kung talagang wala lang
28:38.2
walang mga opportunista,
28:40.1
hindi naman talaga
28:46.3
Pero pag sinimulan natin
28:47.9
lagyan ng muka at pangalan,
28:49.4
yung mga cast of characters
28:50.7
na talagang makikialam
28:51.9
sa ating konstitusyon,
28:55.6
Walo na ko nang matindi.
28:58.4
Ano ba itong pinasok ko?
29:02.0
yung tandem voting.
29:03.9
Yung bang tandem voting,
29:06.5
wag natin pag-usapan
29:07.3
yung personalities.
29:08.3
Do you think that
29:12.8
doon sa mga viewers po,
29:13.9
pag tandem voting,
29:15.5
yung kumakandidato
29:17.9
pag siya yung pinili nyo,
29:20.8
ibo-vote nyo na rin po
29:21.8
yung kanyang running mate.
29:24.4
hindi nyo masyadong type
29:26.2
pero talagang haling na haling
29:28.0
vice-presidential candidate.
29:33.5
talagang ibo-vote nyo na
29:35.3
Do you agree with that?
29:36.7
I agree with that.
29:37.5
A vote for the president
29:38.3
is a vote for the vice-president.
29:39.8
You're supposed to
29:43.7
ang problema kasi,
29:44.8
like for instance,
29:46.3
President Duterte,
29:48.6
hindi niya masyadong
29:49.9
Vice-President Lenny.
29:51.1
Very qualified siya.
29:55.5
fight against drugs,
29:57.1
nagiging mabango si
29:58.1
Vice-President Lenny,
30:01.1
Kasi hindi niya ka-tandem eh.
30:05.0
But if you're a tandem,
30:07.5
the vice-president
30:11.5
designated successor.
30:12.7
If I'm successful,
30:14.5
the people will elect
30:15.4
my vice-president.
30:18.2
tinan mo yung transition
30:18.9
ng US presidential system.
30:21.4
yung gano'n maganda yung
30:22.8
gano'ng klaseng transition eh.
30:25.5
They work hand-in-hand.
30:26.7
Hindi tulad natin.
30:28.0
Na talagang third,
30:29.9
talagang ano talaga si,
30:31.2
spare tire talaga
30:32.3
yung vice-president natin.
30:36.3
ng ating pangulo,
30:40.6
Vice-President Duterte,
30:42.9
they were a tandem,
30:43.7
unit team nga sila.
30:44.8
Kaya binigyan ng position
30:48.6
Sa panahon namin,
30:53.2
kung naalala nyo,
30:56.4
that was a very powerful
31:00.3
political ramifications,
31:05.3
it should be meant for a
31:06.7
somebody that I trust.
31:08.8
political ano yan,
31:09.9
governance yan eh.
31:11.3
inilagay na lang siya sa housing.
31:13.9
pero that's really,
31:16.0
na hindi yan ang gusto ni
31:18.4
Kasi he really sounded off.
31:19.5
I would really want to be the
31:20.6
SILG at that point.
31:22.9
May laking letdown yun eh.
31:29.6
speaking of the Vice President,
31:31.5
I'm not speaking in particular
31:36.9
pag dilangit nyo, no,
31:38.1
sa Constitution natin,
31:39.9
hayahayang trabaho
31:40.8
ng Vice President, eh.
31:42.5
hindi mo ka lang gumalaw,
31:45.0
Wala kang kailangan gawin.
31:46.1
You just wait for the President
31:49.6
maging incapacitated.
31:52.5
Talagang stare-tire siya talaga.
31:55.5
So, hindi nga siya required
31:57.3
sa isang Cabinet Portfolio,
31:58.9
It depends on the President.
32:04.2
pinag-uusapan na naman natin
32:05.3
yung possible, no,
32:06.2
political provisions
32:09.3
it's high time naman na
32:10.3
ilagay na sa Constitution
32:11.4
kung anong trabaho
32:12.2
ng Vice President, eh.
32:18.3
I'm talking about
32:19.5
not VP Sara Duterte
32:24.0
You can only do that
32:27.4
hindi nga ka-alyado
32:30.2
It's not a tandem vote.
32:33.3
You should give the President
32:37.7
the Vice President.
32:39.6
Yan ang mahirap doon, eh.
32:44.9
May political ramifications
32:51.3
ni Vice President
32:54.0
Anong gusto niya?
32:59.2
sensitive position.
33:07.0
very influential role yan.
33:09.5
pag ako ang Presidente
33:10.6
na hindi ko ka-alyado,
33:15.4
you'll be afraid of
33:21.2
lamat yung relasyon nila.
33:23.7
open warfare na lang
33:28.5
it's something that
33:29.7
you'll be, ano eh.
33:34.1
I, I would rather
33:40.0
he or she wants to play.
33:43.1
hindi kailang ilagay
33:47.4
cabinet portfolio
33:48.9
elected Vice President
33:53.7
Pwede siyang bigyan
33:58.4
but automatically naman
33:59.5
ang Vice President
34:00.1
cabinet member naman.
34:02.4
official family eh.
34:04.3
that's politically
34:05.0
he's considered part of
34:06.0
the official family.
34:09.0
but kung bibigyan mo
34:13.5
may mga political,
34:17.5
should provide a job
34:18.9
for the Vice President,
34:21.1
you take away now
34:30.5
the unspoken rule
34:35.7
if I'm not mistaken,
34:37.5
yung Vice President
34:38.1
nagiging ano yan eh,
34:57.9
in the political positions.
35:02.1
you deal with foreign relations,
35:06.8
the record of the government
35:08.3
dealing with foreign dignitaries.
35:10.5
So, there's not much
35:11.7
political consequences.
35:14.9
yan yung mga harmless na,
35:16.9
magandang position,
35:18.7
heavyweight position
35:21.6
harmless politically.
35:27.8
I would rather give the president
35:29.6
the discretion to appoint
35:35.5
yung naglalaban na
35:36.5
prinsipyo dyan eh, no?
35:37.8
Yung karapatan ng presidente
35:40.4
kung sino man yung gusto niyang
35:42.9
official cabinet positions
35:46.0
kung bibigyan talaga
35:49.3
ang vice president
35:50.7
under the constitution.
35:52.6
medyo malakas kasi talaga,
35:54.5
under our presidential
35:58.0
Masyadong malakas.
36:00.3
is constitutionally
36:01.8
than the president
36:02.5
of the United States.
36:05.9
part of me agrees
36:08.5
dahil masyadong powerful
36:10.8
Masyadong centralized
36:11.6
despite the devolution
36:15.1
napaka-centralized pa rin natin.
36:17.2
At kitang-kita natin yan,
36:19.6
Napaka-centralized pa rin
36:24.2
I just agree with you.
36:28.9
yung trust issues, no?
36:32.8
regarding this move
36:34.5
or change the constitution
36:37.7
There will always be.
36:39.0
There will always be.
36:45.7
parating may political
36:52.7
political agenda?
36:53.8
economic provisions.
36:55.2
Huwag kang mag-allow
36:56.0
ng political provisions.
36:57.0
Walang agenda yan.
36:57.6
Walang political agenda yan.
37:00.1
kapag papalitan mo
37:04.6
what they're doing?
37:05.3
You're adding political allies
37:11.2
may mga political agenda yan.
37:12.9
Hindi pwedeng wala.
37:14.0
political provisions
37:16.0
take advantage of,
37:20.4
on the political provisions
37:21.6
would take advantage
37:22.6
of what should be done.
37:23.6
and beneficial to you
37:25.0
in the status quo,
37:26.6
in the present time.
37:34.8
how do you strengthen
37:39.2
constitutionally,
37:40.4
if you can change it
37:46.4
from maybe perhaps
37:48.0
to parliamentary,
37:50.0
then why won't I do it
37:50.9
if I have numbers?
37:53.7
I naisip ko nga nito,
37:55.7
fiddling with the 1987
37:58.9
kung talagang gusto
38:07.2
eh di magpasa na rin sila
38:08.2
ng anti-balimbinglo,
38:09.8
yung anti-party switching
38:12.3
nakalakayin sa kanila.
38:14.6
kung panahon nyo,
38:18.2
napunta sa umbrella nyo
38:19.2
nung panahon ni Duterte,
38:20.8
napunta sa PDP laban,
38:23.1
kung nagkaroon ng
38:24.0
anti-party switching doon,
38:25.8
edi nakalakayin doon
38:34.5
introduced that eh,
38:36.4
papatayin talagang
38:37.4
yung mga ganun batas.
38:39.4
batas na talagang
38:41.3
na nasa constitution
38:45.0
anti-political dynasty.
38:48.0
Yan yung talagang
38:53.1
think tank institutions,
38:57.4
a political dynasty,
38:59.7
the economy suffers eh.
39:01.4
Their standard of living
39:05.2
empirical evidence
39:06.5
na yun sa ganyan.
39:07.7
ang tawag nga ngayon
39:09.7
sa political dynasty,
39:11.0
cottage industry eh.
39:12.3
Ang dami mga anak
39:13.1
nagiging konsehal,
39:16.8
Talagang political
39:17.5
negosyo na talagang
39:18.6
maging to enter politics.
39:21.3
yan ang nangyayari.
39:26.7
anti-political dynasty law.
39:29.6
yan ang problema natin.
39:32.9
long and short of it,
39:36.6
wants to do that,
39:38.2
let me just remind,
39:39.2
the Supreme Court
39:40.6
there is no valid law
39:41.9
to do people's initiative
39:44.3
to amend the constitution.
39:46.0
So the first thing
39:46.9
that they should do,
39:47.8
Speaker Martin Ramaldez
39:49.1
or Senator Robin Padilla
39:51.9
is to come up with
39:55.4
After that decision
39:57.4
there were two attempts
39:59.3
after yung Lambino
40:01.3
That was a Supreme Court
40:06.7
si Senator Miriam
40:07.6
Defensor Santiago
40:08.7
proposed a Senate bill
40:16.2
people's initiative law.
40:19.9
si Senator Coco Pimentel
40:23.6
another Senate resolution
40:28.6
yung dalawang yun.
40:29.4
Yung kay Coco Pimentel,
40:30.9
tulog pa hanggang yan.
40:31.8
There's no activity.
40:33.9
there's no people's initiative
40:38.6
mag-people's initiative
40:39.7
ang kampo ni Speaker Ramaldez
40:42.0
or ni Senator Padilla,
40:43.5
may aakit sa Supreme Court
40:44.7
on the basis that
40:45.9
there is no valid law
40:51.7
people's initiative.
40:52.9
To amend the Constitution.
40:54.8
Santiago versus Comelec.
40:56.6
So what they should do is
41:01.8
may, may, may, may
41:06.1
Kaya yun ang gustong gawin
41:08.2
to cure the infirmities
41:11.2
that Senate resolution
41:13.0
na hanggang ngayon
41:13.9
walang gumagalaw.
41:18.4
people's initiative
41:19.2
kung talaga merong
41:20.2
legal infirmities
41:22.9
Well, in the meantime,
41:24.3
maraming, maraming salamat
41:28.2
Looking good, ha?
41:29.2
Ano bang ginagawa nyo
41:29.9
parang hindi kayo tumataba?
41:33.8
The private sector
41:35.6
and peacefully working
41:36.8
for the private sector.
41:39.0
Hindi, wala nang balikan.
41:41.8
in the private sector ba yan?
41:51.0
Maraming salamat.
41:51.8
And congrats to you.
41:54.6
Salamat, salamat, sir.
41:59.7
Ayan, si Secretary
42:07.5
Kamusta yung mga trolls
42:08.6
dyan? Galaw-galaw.
42:10.0
May mga mangalan nyo
42:14.2
Ito lang yung nasabi
42:17.1
Ayan, sabi ng isa.
42:19.9
Christian na bugok
42:24.6
naintindihan yung binag-usapan.
42:27.9
Pakigugal na lang.
42:33.0
Antipolitical dynasty?
42:34.8
Pakiresearch nga.
42:36.3
Medyo maraming competing
42:37.3
principles kanina, eh.
42:38.7
Baka hindi ka nakasunod,
42:40.1
eh, kailangan mong bumanat.
42:41.3
So, nasabi mo na lang.
42:43.0
Christian na bugok
42:45.3
Wala pang punctuations, eh.
42:46.6
Mahirap basahin ito.
42:48.9
Try to learn punctuations
42:50.0
next time, Raymond.
42:53.4
na itong sa Raymond, no?
42:55.2
kung makabugok, eh, no?
42:57.1
Mukhang napakataas
43:00.9
Nakakatakot itong kadibate
43:02.1
kasi mukhang napakatalinong tao.
43:09.7
Sabi tuloy ni ano?
43:13.9
dilawan si Christian.
43:23.7
Galaw-galaw ng konti,
43:25.2
Mahirap talaga makasunod
43:26.6
dito sa discussion
43:27.4
when it comes to the Constitution.
43:29.4
ambigat pa nung word
43:30.7
ni Secretary Sherda, no?
43:32.7
sa karamihan mga tao
43:35.1
yung Constitution.
43:36.6
Na tama naman, no?
43:38.3
mahirap intindihin.
43:40.4
Ambigat pa nung word
43:41.9
So, mas lalong humirap
43:43.7
yung pagkakaintindi
43:47.1
Parin sa 1987 Constitution.
43:48.8
Pero totoo yan, no?
43:51.4
kung saan lumalabas
43:54.4
hindi ba ganun kataas
43:55.6
ang pagkakaunawa,
43:58.2
o pagkakaintindi.
44:00.1
Jesus Codero na ako
44:01.0
sa pagsasarita, ah.
44:04.8
1987 Constitution.
44:06.4
So, kung yan ang reality,
44:09.9
yung Constitution,
44:11.1
So, very prone to
44:11.8
manipulation yung mga tao.
44:13.5
Yung mga opportunista
44:16.0
o paritan yung Constitution
44:22.7
that is self-serving, no?
44:25.5
yung mga politiko natin
44:26.4
sa totoo lang, no?
44:27.7
In terms of amending
44:45.0
Hindi naman siguro.
44:46.3
yung tao yan, no?
44:48.1
hinighlight natin, eh.
44:49.3
Kasi pag matalino,
44:50.1
talagang binibida natin
44:51.7
sa ating programa.
44:54.1
ingat-ingat po kayo, no?
44:55.4
Yung discussion natin
44:57.3
kaya ako rin invite
44:58.2
si Atty. Lacerda.
44:59.9
Gusto ko ilatag niya
45:02.1
yung legal issues dito
45:03.2
sa isinusulong na
45:05.5
or People's Initiative.
45:07.9
Kaya mag-ingat kayo, no?
45:08.8
Baka may nababalitaan
45:09.8
kayo sa mga lugar nyo
45:10.7
o biglang nagkakaroon
45:11.6
ng signature campaign.
45:13.2
Yung barabarang kayo dyan,
45:15.1
yung local leaders,
45:16.2
baka nagpapakalat ng papel
45:19.2
nagkakaroon ng offer of money
45:20.7
similar to the revelation
45:22.2
of Congressman Ed Zeligman,
45:24.1
mag-ingat po kayo, no?
45:25.7
Mahirap pag tayo yung, ano,
45:27.7
lagi naman tayo exploited
45:28.9
ng ating mga politiko, eh.
45:30.5
This time around,
45:31.4
huwag naman tayo magpa-exploit.
45:33.7
Nakakatakot po talaga, no?
45:36.5
Matuto po tayo magtanong.
45:39.2
ang hirap din kasing
45:43.1
ng hindi pinag-uusapan yung
45:44.6
cracks within the UNITEAM, no?
45:47.3
Between the Marcos,
45:49.2
and the Dutertes.
45:52.6
medyo takot dito yung mga pro-Duterte,
45:54.8
yung mga loyalista,
45:55.6
pati yung mga trolls dito, no?
45:58.1
eh bakit ba sinusulong ni Martin Ramualdes
46:00.9
yung charter change?
46:02.0
Takot ba siya kay Sara Duterte?
46:04.2
pwedeng hindi, no?
46:05.4
Pero sabi ko nga kanina,
46:06.5
I don't want to lionize
46:07.7
any particular political personality here, no?
46:10.4
Wala akong kinakampihan
46:11.4
kahit sino sa dalawang yan, no?
46:13.7
Ang sinasabi ko lang dito,
46:15.4
saan ba mas makikinabangan
46:18.3
Wala tayong pakialam
46:22.0
or Martin Ramualdes.
46:25.6
Tingnan nyo rin po yung mga motibo, no?
46:27.8
Eh, mahirap na magsalita,
46:30.1
pero hindi naman po pareho
46:32.2
ang helang pinag-uusapan natin dito, no?
46:35.0
Yung nalang po muna.
46:36.5
Hindi naman po yan
46:40.4
Ayan, sabi nang ito,
46:42.2
ito eh, yan, ito,
46:43.2
nabuhaya na yung mga
46:44.3
pro-Duterte trolls, no?
46:46.1
Ayan, medyo nakakasunod na sila.
46:49.1
medyo technical yung usapan,
46:50.3
medyo hirap, eh, no?
46:51.7
Eh, ganun po talaga.
46:53.1
Napasensya na kayo.
46:53.9
Kung medyo dumugu yung ilong nyo,
46:55.6
bilhin nalang po kayo ng bulak.
46:57.6
Tapos, ganun lang, oh.
46:59.8
Medyo higpitan nyo ng konti
47:00.9
yung kapit sa ilong.
47:03.4
medyo iangat nyo yung inyong ulo.
47:09.1
konting bati muna tayo, no?
47:10.4
Sabi ni Marisa Garcia,
47:12.5
for the first time,
47:13.8
nakanood daw siya ng live,
47:14.9
watching live from Paris.
47:16.3
Anong oras na ba sa Paris ngayon?
47:17.6
Siguro, mga 2 p.m. ba?
47:20.0
Kung hindi ko nagkakamali,
47:22.7
Shout-out kay Ophelia Calipusan
47:27.0
Ito, si Ma'am Christy Ronquillo.
47:28.5
Maraming salamat po sa inyo.
47:31.6
Ay, ko, tayo, ano, no?
47:33.1
Ikaw yung sa Toronto, no?
47:35.6
Tapos, ito, si Harold.
47:38.0
Biligyan tayo ng time check
47:39.8
kaibigan natin from Vienna,
47:42.6
Sa Paris daw is 221.
47:51.0
Buto po si Harold,
47:51.7
lagi nanonood, no?
47:52.6
Nga pa, si Harold,
47:53.4
isa po yung artist
47:54.4
na nakabase po dyan sa Vienna.
47:57.0
Pag nakita niya po
47:57.7
yung mga gawa niya,
48:00.2
Hindi ko naman sinasabing sana
48:01.4
bigyan ako minsan
48:02.1
ng painting ni Harold, no?
48:04.7
Bila magkaibigan,
48:06.1
hindi ko naman sinasabing
48:07.7
Pero kung gagawin niya,
48:09.8
maraming salamat sa iyo,
48:10.7
Harold, in advance.
48:12.1
And hi din kay Giselle
48:13.3
at sa inyong mga pusa.
48:17.2
kung napapansin niyo,
48:18.1
medyo iba yung t-shirt natin ngayon, no?
48:20.0
Ito po yung bagong ano natin.
48:22.6
of Fox First shirts, no?
48:25.0
Ilalabas na po natin yan this week.
48:27.6
Ito po yung Acid series natin.
48:29.8
Ito yung Acid Grey.
48:31.6
Tapos meron din po tayong Acid Black.
48:35.0
Kaya dun po sa mga na-disappoint
48:36.6
dahil naubusan ng stocks
48:37.9
sa Shopee tsaka Lazada,
48:43.7
isang katutak po yung mug.
48:45.4
na ating inihanda
48:55.7
Oh, magaling na artist yan
49:00.1
Tsaka ageless yan.
49:01.2
Kaedad ko lang yan.
49:02.0
Pero pag nakakita niya,
49:03.5
grabe, mukhang 10 years younger.
49:05.4
Eh, ganun talaga eh.
49:09.7
Pwede, pwede, Harold.
49:10.8
Pwede mo pa-reserve ng ano.
49:16.0
Bigay mo na yung size mo sa akin.
49:18.2
So, napahaba na po yung ating discussion.
49:20.3
Maraming maraming salamat po.
49:21.9
Kita-kita po tayo
49:22.9
ilibukas ito po sa Facts First.
49:24.5
Ako po si Chris Yerez Guerra.
49:26.2
Magandang gabi po sa inyo lahat.
