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00:18.0
Good evening po sa inyong lahat. Ako po si Christian Esguerra.
00:26.2
Welcome po sa ating episode ngayong gabi dito po sa ating Pax First Podcast.
00:31.0
So today is January 15. Sana po ay nasa mabuti po kayong kalagayan tayo pong lahat.
00:37.4
Naya po nangyayari po sa larangan ng politika.
00:40.9
And pag-uusapan po natin yung latest development tungkol po dito
00:44.2
sa pagpo-push po ng ilang grupo, ilang personalidad, ilang politiko.
00:49.3
Hindi ko po sinasabing gahaman sila. Wala po akong sinasabing gano'n.
00:53.1
Pero bakit kaya nagpo-push sila?
00:55.4
Napalitan o amyendahan at least yung ating 1987 Constitution.
01:00.7
And as we speak, meron pong effort na tinatawag po na People's Initiative
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kung saan nangangala po ng lagda ang isang grupo
01:10.2
with the support of certain congressmen
01:12.5
para palitan yung isang provision ng ating Constitution
01:15.9
o at least linawin.
01:17.8
Ang gusto po nila, panagkaroon po ng isang constituent assembly,
01:21.0
ibig sabihin yung both chambers of Congress, sila po yung mag-aamyenda
01:25.4
sa ating Constitution, dapat daw ang boto joint.
01:29.4
Ibig sabihin, isang kapulungan, isang chamber lang yung Senate at saka House,
01:35.4
magsasamahin yung boto nila.
01:37.1
E syempre, ayaw po ng mga senador yun.
01:39.2
Teka muna, para magiging irrelevant kami rito kasi
01:42.6
imagine ninyo, 24 senators versus 315 members of the House of Representatives.
01:49.6
So sa isang banda, yan po yung nangyayari sa ground.
01:52.7
Ang latest development,
01:54.3
meron pong ifinaly,
01:55.4
nag-file na resolution galing sa Senado
01:57.4
sa pangunguna po ni Senate President Juan Miguel Zubiri.
02:01.4
Nag-file po siya ng resolution of both houses supported initially by at least two senators.
02:08.4
Ano po ba ibig sabihin ito?
02:10.4
Nakalagay po ron, meron tatlong provision ng Constitution na gusto nilang palitan
02:14.4
and these are basically economic, okay?
02:17.4
Total, sabi naman ng House, eh gusto lang naman namin talaga economic provisions.
02:21.4
E diyon, nag-file siya na Sen. Zubiri ng isang resolution,
02:25.2
tawag po ron RBH No. 6 or Resolution of Both Houses No. 6
02:29.2
para palitan yung tatlong economic provisions dito po sa ating Constitution.
02:33.2
Ano po ba implications yan?
02:35.2
Dapat ba nating supportahan yan?
02:37.2
At ano po ba yung dapat pagtingin natin dito po sa mga nangyayari ito
02:41.2
sa larangan ng pagpapalit o pag-a-amenda ng ating Constitution?
02:45.2
So I decided to invite po isang tao na talagang alam po natin na napakataas po na integridad at siyempre maalam po sa batas.
02:53.2
So I'd like to welcome again to our program si retired Supreme Court Senior Associate Justice Tony Carpio.
03:01.2
Magandang gabi po sir and thank you for joining us tonight dito po sa Fox First.
03:05.2
Magandang gabi Christian, magandang gabi sa viewers natin.
03:10.2
Okay, ang dami ko pong gusto itanong sa inyo pero simulan po natin dito sa Resolution of Both Houses No. 6.
03:16.2
Ano po ba tingin nyo dito sa final na resolution sa pangunguna po ni Sen. Juan Miguel Zubiri?
03:23.2
Well, katulad na sinabi mo, the Senate is calling the bluff of the House.
03:30.2
Kasi sabi ng House, we have to go to people's initiative to amend the economic provisions of the Constitution
03:40.2
because the Senate doesn't want to convene as a constituent assembly. Ayaw ng Senado.
03:49.2
We have not received any favorable response.
03:54.2
So linabas ng House itong people's initiative to that when the House and the Senate meet as a constituent assembly,
04:08.2
they vote as one jointly.
04:10.2
So yung 315 votes ng House, ipagsama yun sa 24 votes ng House and you get the majority vote.
04:20.2
Eh paraging paraging.
04:23.2
So talo ang Senado dyan.
04:25.2
So the effect of that is to practically disregard the vote of the Senate.
04:33.2
They will always be outnumbered.
04:35.2
So ang ano ko dito, pag talagang economic provisions lang ang gusto ng House, bakit pa paligoy-ligoy?
04:48.2
Kasi there are two options, no?
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To amend the economic provisions by kahit na people's initiative.
04:59.2
You can amend it directly.
05:02.2
In other words, the people's initiative will say the following articles and sections of the Constitution will be hereby amended.
05:10.2
Or you can approach it this way.
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When Congress convenes as a constituent assembly,
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they will vote as one.
05:22.2
And then after that, they will meet again as a constituent assembly to amend the Constitution.
05:32.2
Eh pag two steps, it's surprising and very suspicious.
05:39.2
Kasi yung first step where they will vote as one, binigyan mo ng blank check yung Congress to amend the Constitution.
05:48.2
Any way they want because they have the numbers.
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Palaging outnumbered ang Senate.
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So kung talagang gusto mo i-amend ang Constitution, pwede mo naman diretsuhin eh sa people's initiative.
06:05.2
Diretsuhin mo na sa people's initiative.
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Itong mga provisions na ito, i-amend natin.
06:10.2
Eh bakit pa? Two steps.
06:13.2
Parang gusto mo, you want to visit your neighbor, nasa kanan lang ng bahay mo, to the right.
06:20.2
At ang pupunta ka doon, you turn left, you go around the world, parang umabot ka sa kanila.
06:28.2
It doesn't make sense.
06:33.2
Kasi diba, you have to be efficient, avoid this waste of time.
06:41.2
At dito talagang you waste a lot of time because two steps yan.
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Ngayon naman ang Senado, just to emphasize that point, they proposed na straight to the point na tayo.
06:53.2
Wala nang PI, wala nang people's initiative.
06:55.2
Ito na lahat na economic provisions, palitan na natin.
06:59.2
So it's up to the House now.
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If they really want economic provisions, nag-offer na yung Senate na i-amend natin kaagad.
07:08.2
Hindi na tayo palitan.
07:10.2
Hindi na tayo paligoy-ligoy pa.
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Wala nang two-step, diretso.
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We will not spend for people's initiative kasi papayag na kami i-amend yung economic provisions eh.
07:22.2
At saka yung amendment naman proposed ng Senate, it opens up everything.
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Kasi nakalagay doon, for example, in Article 12, Section 6,
07:38.2
on the public utilities, nakalagay doon,
07:44.2
yung 60-40 required ngayon will be followed unless otherwise provided by law.
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So, Congress can amend it anytime.
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Ganyan din yung ibang provisions ang gagawin according to the Senate resolution.
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if the House will agree to that, tapos na.
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Wala nang tayong problema, wala nang political warfare
08:15.2
because nagkasundo na yung House at saka Senate, no?
08:19.2
However, from my point of view, personally,
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I think we should add two conditions.
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Unless otherwise provided by law, subject to reciprocity.
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Kasi katulad, no?
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We open up our telecom industry to the world.
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Vietnam will invest here, can buy 100% of our telecom,
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pero hindi tayo pwede bumili sa kanila kasi sarado sila eh.
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So, if we require reciprocity, buksan muna nila yung kanilang industry,
08:54.2
telecom industry, before we open up.
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In other words, dapat reciprocal para patas tayo.
09:02.2
Kasi in international law, each one is sovereign.
09:07.2
Bakit payagan natin sila to buy 100% of our telecom companies
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when we cannot buy into their telecom companies?
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Dapat it should be reciprocal.
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And that is the policy now of the European Union.
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Whenever they enter into a treaty with another country,
09:29.2
they require reciprocity now.
09:31.2
Because that's the only way to require China to open up.
09:34.2
Because China wants to buy into our telecom 100%,
09:40.2
but they cannot even buy a share there in their telecom business,
09:43.2
their basic telecom.
09:45.2
Because from their point of view, it's a matter of national security.
09:49.2
So dapat reciprocal.
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Pangalawang condition, alam mo, right now,
09:55.2
it requires a constitutional amendment to open up certain industries.
10:01.2
Dapat a little bit, a higher majority should be required
10:06.2
when Congress passes it.
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Let's say, two-thirds vote of the House and the Senate
10:13.2
can open up an industry.
10:15.2
Can amend, can change the requirement in the Constitution.
10:19.2
Hindi naman simple majority lang.
10:22.2
Kasi this is not an ordinary law.
10:24.2
This is special law that is actually deviating from the Constitution.
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Under the present Constitution,
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Congress cannot change that by a simple law,
10:37.2
but they have to go through the process of amending the Constitution.
10:41.2
Now, if we grant them the authority to amend,
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dapat a little bit higher yung voting requirement.
10:49.2
Kasi that's a reserved industry for Filipinos.
10:56.2
If you open it up,
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dapat mas madaming members of Congress na will approve that.
11:02.2
So yun lang dalawa.
11:03.2
Subject to two-thirds vote of the House and of the Senate voting separately.
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Okay. Makes a lot of sense, Justice.
11:13.2
May mga itatarampo po ako mamaya tungkol sa dalawang kondisyon na yan.
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Although ang initial comment ko dyan,
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that presupposes na talagang maayos yung motibo ng mga nagsusulong ito.
11:26.2
Lalabas dito kung talagang sincere sila na they will only amend economic provision.
11:33.2
Pag pumayag ang House, wala na sila. Tapos na.
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They cannot introduce any other amendment like converting the system of government to parliamentary.
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Okay. Justice, yun ang tanong ko.
11:46.2
Guarantee ba itong resolution of both Houses No. 6
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na kung sakaling magbuksan yung Kongreso as a constituent assembly,
11:55.2
talagang pag-uusapan lang yung nakasaad sa resolution,
11:58.2
which are the amendments to three economic provisions?
12:02.2
O baka naman may in-vote na mga uupo doon sabihin nila,
12:05.2
Teka, constituent assembly na kami, meron kaming plenary powers.
12:08.2
Kahit ano pwede namin galawin, kahit yun pa'y nakasulat sa resolution.
12:12.2
Yeah, that's a very good question.
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Kasi normally, when Congress convenes as a constituent assembly, may joint resolution yan no, ng House and Senate.
12:24.2
Convening Congress as a constituent assembly.
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Now, a constituent assembly has plenary powers, full powers.
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They can amend any provision of the Constitution.
12:34.2
They can convert the system of government to parliamentary.
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So, takot ang Senado to convene as a constituent assembly.
12:42.2
So, ang approach nila dito sa resolution nila, separate.
12:47.2
Yung proposal ni Father Bernas na you don't really have to convene.
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The House will pass the resolution.
12:55.2
Parang batas lang no.
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And the Senate will pass the resolution separately.
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And that will be submitted to the people for ratification.
13:03.2
It's a novel idea.
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We have never tried it.
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But I think it's worth exploring.
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And I think if this is questioned in the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court will look at the substance.
13:18.2
Na pareho naman yan eh.
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And there's a reason for that.
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Because if that it convenes, talagang anything can be taken up.
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Justice, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Hindi po ito yung first time na sinubukan itong track na ito.
13:43.2
Nagkakamari siguro more than 10 years ago.
13:45.2
Yung parabang paritan yung provision ng Constitution using the ordinary course of events.
13:52.2
Similar to the way Congress passes a bill into law, di ba?
13:58.2
Ito po yan. Parang ganito.
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That was proposed before.
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But it was never implemented.
14:04.2
Hindi pa, hindi na tuloy.
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It was just a proposal.
14:07.2
It was Father Bernas who first proposed it.
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But it has never been tested.
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In other words, it was never implemented.
14:18.2
So dito, malinaw ba yun na ano?
14:21.2
Mabagang meron ba siyang ano?
14:22.2
How solid po yung legal grounding nitong track na ito?
14:26.2
Yung para lang sila ipapasakot na yung balas?
14:29.2
Well, I think that will of course reach the Supreme Court.
14:33.2
And well, I think the court will look at the circumstances that this is the only way to prevent a surprise from one chamber.
14:45.2
Because takot ng Senado na somebody there will just prove it.
14:49.2
Somebody there will just propose to convert to parliamentary.
14:54.2
And they don't want to fall into that.
14:56.2
So I think wala namang prohibition sa Congress sa Constitution that this cannot be done.
15:05.2
And the Constitution is also satisfied, is complied with kasi two-thirds vote naman.
15:14.2
It will be approved by the vote of both houses naman.
15:19.2
Paano naman po, let's say, diba, ang resolution of both houses, dapat parehong-pareho siya, no?
15:23.2
Paano po yung, kunwari, ang version naman sa house, sakaling may mag-adopt ito, singitan naman ang ibang provision na gusto silang palitan?
15:30.2
I mean, how do you reconcile those?
15:33.2
Well, they will have to meet and then try to go back to each chamber again to harmonize, no?
15:42.2
Just like passing a law.
15:45.2
Right now, parang may third chamber, eh.
15:52.2
Eto po pala, Justice, no?
15:55.2
Talaga pang malabo sa, although may mga umamin na rin naman ng mga framers ng Constitution,
16:00.2
their intention was really to have a unicameral Congress.
16:03.2
So medyo na-overlook nila yung provision tungkol doon sa pagboto ng House and then ng Senate separately.
16:11.2
Pero as it is, yung wording ba ng Constitution po regarding doon sa pagboto ng Constitution,
16:15.2
yung wording ba ng Constitution po regarding doon sa pagboto ng House and then ng Senate separately?
16:16.2
Yung wording ba ng Constitution po regarding doon sa pagboto ng House and then ng Senate separately?
16:17.2
Yung wording ba ng Constitution po regarding doon sa pagboto ng House and then ng Senate separately?
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Talaga po bang malabo?
16:20.2
Is it really vague?
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Or pwedeng may pagbasihan tayo doon sa aksyon ng dalawang kapulungan kung saan malinaw din naman na separate silang bumaboto?
16:30.2
Well, the other provisions expressly state voting separately.
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They will vote by two-thirds vote.
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Pero hindi sinabi voting separately.
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But if you look at it, the Constitution is the highest law.
16:53.4
If you are enacting just an ordinary law, they have to vote separately.
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So if you are voting for even a more important law, it should be also separate.
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At saka that is part of the check and balance.
17:11.0
There are two chambers in the Congress.
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One chamber cannot pass a law alone.
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So one chamber should not be able to amend the Constitution or propose amendments alone.
17:24.7
Kasi ano yan eh, check and balance yan eh.
17:29.3
The Senate, because they are elected nationally, have a national view, national understanding.
17:41.0
Yung Congress naman, local yung kanilang focus.
17:44.2
So nagkakaroon ng balance.
17:47.1
That's the purpose.
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There is a check and balance.
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So that is the reason why the natural course is they should also vote separately when they propose amendments to the Constitution.
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Pantahan naman po natin justice yung medyo patulan lang po natin ng konti itong People's Initiative.
18:11.5
So may mga nagsusulong talaga itong People's Initiative.
18:14.2
Basically, signature drive.
18:15.5
And syempre, confident sila that they could meet the threshold ng 12% of the entire number of registered voters at saka 3% for legislative district.
18:27.3
Pero malinaw po ba na ano?
18:30.1
Diba ang issue rito, meron bang enabling law para i-operationalize yung provision ng Constitution regarding People's Initiative?
18:40.0
Well, as you know, doon sa Santiago versus Comelec,
18:44.2
the Supreme Court ruled that the initiative law is inadequate for the purpose of amending the Constitution.
18:54.6
But for the purpose of enacting an ordinary law, hindi nila sinabi inadequate.
19:01.8
So we presume it's still adequate.
19:09.0
That was the Santiago versus Comelec.
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issued an opinion that the initiative law is adequate to amend the Constitution.
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So may issue ngayon, did that reverse the Santiago v. Comelec?
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Yun ang issue ngayon.
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Well, some justices say it did not reverse because it's not in the main opinion.
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In the main opinion, which I wrote, my position was we do not have to disturb Santiago v. Comelec
20:21.1
because we can decide this without disturbing, without revisiting Santiago v. Comelec.
20:28.9
So ako, sabi ko, we don't have to decide whether Santiago v. Comelec is correct
20:34.8
because we can decide this in another way, in another issue.
20:39.7
So that's an issue.
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Some say that 10 should be enough to reverse Santiago v. Comelec.
20:47.9
Others say, wala naman yan sa main decision.
20:50.5
There was no statement from the court na we are reversing Santiago v. Comelec.
20:55.9
So it's still an open question.
20:58.8
So whoever wants to hold a people's initiative to amend the Constitution will have to hurdle,
21:07.7
will have to overcome two decisions.
21:09.7
One is the Santiago v. Comelec and the Lambino v. Comelec.
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Pero nga po, Justice, hindi ba malinaw naman na kung wala rin sa main decision,
21:20.2
basically, it was mentioned in passing, tama ba?
21:23.1
Miski sampung justices siyang naglagay nun.
21:25.3
So hindi mo pa rin siya pwedeng sabihin na that reversed the Santiago v. Comelec ruling in 1997.
21:33.5
But another view could be that bilangan lang yan sa boto eh.
21:39.7
I have not found a precedent.
21:41.6
So this is a case of first impression.
21:44.6
So I don't know how the Supreme Court will decide that.
21:48.1
But they still have a big hurdle in the Lambino.
21:52.9
Because in the Lambino, dalawang issue yun eh.
21:58.1
Procedurally, whether the gathering of signatures was correct or was complied with the Constitution,
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sabi namin, when you gather a signature,
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you must state there in the signature page or attached to the signature page,
22:18.3
the exact wording of the proposed change.
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Hindi mo pwedeng sabihin, we'll just amend this to do that and do that.
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You have to specify the specific amendment.
22:31.1
Because otherwise, you are not informing the person who is going to sign.
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So there must be full disclosure of what you intend to do so that the voters will not be misled.
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So that's why in the present proposed petition, linigay na nila yan.
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They are complying.
22:55.8
This is the exact wording of the amendment that we proposed.
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But there is a second issue, the substantive issue.
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Kasi yung isa procedural lang yun eh.
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Ito substantive, sinabi ko,
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And everybody agreed, no?
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That the Constitution refers to two kinds of changing, ways of changing the Constitution.
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By amendment and revision, which can be done by the Constituent Assembly or the Constitutional Convention.
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And amendment only by the People's Initiative.
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In other words, when it comes to People's Initiative,
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the initiative can amend only.
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The Constitution, it cannot revise.
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When only a CONCON or a Constituent Assembly can amend and or revise the Constitution.
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So what is now the difference between amendment and revision?
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Amendment is a simple change.
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Like you want to lower the voting age from 18 to 14.
24:10.3
You want to add an additional qualification for holding to elect a president.
24:16.7
Like he must be a college graduate.
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That's a simple amendment.
24:21.3
Revision, sabi doon sa decision ng Lambino,
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when you alter the check and balance within the legislature or within the entire government,
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that is changing the structure of government.
24:40.3
That's a revision.
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Ngayon itong petition na ito, they want to alter the check and balance.
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Ang check and balance in a Constituent Assembly is that vote chambers must vote separately.
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Their votes have equal weight.
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Pinapalitan nila yan.
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They will vote as one.
25:06.6
So of course 315 will always...
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overrule the 24 votes of the Senate.
25:13.0
So I think that is really a revision because you're altering the structure of government.
25:18.1
So hindi pwede ito to be amended by people's initiative.
25:23.8
So this is one of the issue.
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Pag tinuloy nila ito, many will go to the Supreme Court and raise this issue.
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One, that there is no law, which I think can be easily disposed of.
25:39.7
One, really the real issue is, is this an amendment or revision?
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Kasi you're changing the check and balance within Congress.
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So I think this is, in my opinion, this is a revision.
25:54.1
And it cannot be done by people's initiative.
25:57.3
O nga, magandang point po yung binanggit nyo.
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Hindi ito basta-basta simple amendment or revision talaga.
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Pero gusto ko pong balikan nyo sa procedural.
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Kasi sa ordinaryong tao,
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may duda rin talaga eh, no?
26:11.1
Paano ba natin masisiguro na talagang
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firma ng mga taong sinasabi nilang pumirma
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yung nandyan sa people's initiative na yan?
26:21.3
yung level ng kaalaman ng mga taong pumirma man,
26:25.9
officially or formally.
26:27.6
Kasi po, may survey na hindi ganun karami yung bilang ng mga Pilipino nakakaintindi sa konstitusyon.
26:33.2
Ito very technical to.
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I don't even know whether most of our viewers are following yung technical issues po nito.
26:39.7
We're voting jointly and separately.
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Eh lalo pa pag kinala dyan across the Philippines.
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Kumbaga napaka prone to manipulation ng mga tao.
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So yun po yung tanong ko.
26:48.3
Meron pa ng safeguards dyan?
26:50.6
May nakasulat ba as to how to ascertain the signatures po?
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Well, the Comelec and the petitioners will file the petition together with all the signatures that they've gathered.
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The Comelec is supposed to verify.
27:08.3
Of course, they cannot verify.
27:09.4
If they verify everything, probably they can verify in random, no?
27:13.8
But there is a verification stage.
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And that is supposed to be done by the Comelec.
27:21.5
And interested parties may participate and object, no?
27:30.0
Sorry, Justice. Duda pa rin po ako, no?
27:34.0
Anyway, maraming maraming salamat po, Justice, for joining us tonight.
27:39.4
for the explaining everything, no?
27:41.2
Napakatsaganyo po sa pagpapaliwanag.
27:43.6
Dito po sa Fox First, sa papagtagalog natin, si Justice Carpion.
27:48.5
Maraming salamat, Justice, ha?
27:51.1
Hindi kasi kaya lang, maintindihan nila, very technical po itong pinag-uusapan natin, eh.
27:55.2
Yes, it's very technical.
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And even lawyers will have a hard time unless they go over this again and again, no?
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Okay. Maraming salamat, Justice.
28:05.4
Sa uli din po, no?
28:06.4
So, I'll invite you again, kasi nga...
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Thank you, Christian, and thank you to our viewers.
28:13.0
Okay. Salamat, sir.
28:15.0
Ayan, si Justice Carpio.
28:16.9
Sana nadagdagan yung ating kaalaman regarding dito sa batas, no?
28:22.0
Kasi nga, eh, ewan ko ba sa inyo, may tiwala ba kayo dyan sa mga may pakanalang people's initiative na yan?
28:29.6
Naniniwala ba kayo na ang target lang talaga ng mga nagsusulong ng amendment dito sa ating konstitusyon
28:36.3
ay yung economic provisions lang para daw mas maka...
28:39.4
inganyo tayo ng mga investors para tumaas daw yung tinatawag ng ating FDI, o yung Foreign Direct Investments, no?
28:46.5
Itong FDI, ito yung mga klase investments na talagang merong impact sa tao, supposedly, no?
28:52.6
Creates jobs, no?
28:54.6
Boasts industries.
28:56.4
Ngayon, eh, sa track record ba ng ating mga politiko, eh, mukha bang ganong kabusilak ang kanilang intention
29:02.8
para amyendahan ang ating konstitusyon?
29:06.4
Baka naman ang goal talaga rito, again, we cannot...
29:09.4
underestimate the greed for power of our politicians, no?
29:15.1
Eh, pag binuksan natin yung konstitusyon, eh, baka naman biglang may magsingit dyan.
29:21.0
O paritan na rin yung mga political provisions.
29:23.7
Actually, misking nga naman sa economic provisions, eh,
29:26.2
paano ka meron pala nagkocontrol sa ating mga politiko,
29:29.4
ang malaking mga negosyante, para sila makikinabang dito, no?
29:33.2
Kasi minsan mas nakakatakot pag hindi natin nasisinaga ng araw yung mga economic provisions.
29:39.4
Eh, siguro sa marami, medyo mahirap intindihin.
29:42.3
So, maka nakatutok tayo sa political, no?
29:45.0
Yung political provisions, eh, ito po yung mga, for instance, yung paglilift ng term limits, no?
29:49.4
Now, speaking of trust issues, bakit ba merong trust issues ang mga tao pagdating sa mga politiko natin
29:54.5
na nagsusulong ng pagbabago, pag-amendan ang konstitusyon natin?
29:57.8
Ito, tingnan nyo nila, very concrete example.
30:00.8
Diba, nung panahon ni Pangulong Duterte, eh, siya talaga gusto niyang i-overhold yung konstitusyon
30:05.2
kasi gusto nga niya mag-federal, eh.
30:07.2
Diba? Federal parliamentary.
30:09.4
Eh, diba, bumuupo siya ng tinatawag na consultative committee to study the 1987 Constitution.
30:17.3
So, sa pamumuno po ni dating Justice Renato Puno, naglabas kaya ng, ano, ng recommendations.
30:25.2
Ayun, parang nasa isang libro pa yun, eh.
30:27.2
Set of recommendations yung consultative committee na yun.
30:30.2
Kinover ko po yun from start to finish, although from the very beginning, andun ako.
30:33.9
May mangyayari ba dito sa consultative committee na ito?
30:39.4
Pare, sabi ko, baka naman magamit lang to to, to legitimize certain questionable motives or ends.
30:47.6
So, yung recommendation nila, sinubmit doon sa House of Representatives, ang speaker nun,
30:52.7
nung panahon na yun, si Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
30:55.3
O true enough, pinansin ba?
30:56.9
Kung pinansin man, diba, naglabas ang sariling proposal yung mga kongresista
31:01.4
at doon pumasok yung pag-amenda sa mga political provisions.
31:05.3
Gusto nga i-lift in term limits, diba, ibig sabihin.
31:09.4
wala dapat pagpipigil kung gustong tumakbo habang buhay ng mga kongresista,
31:14.5
ng mga lakon na opisyal, eh, payagan dapat, no?
31:18.2
Kita nyo na yung motibo?
31:19.6
O, nung panahon na yun yun.
31:21.5
So, kaya hindi natin maiwasan na magkaroon ng trust issues dito sa ating mga, sa mga politiko, no?
31:28.6
Pero, totoo naman talaga na hindi perfecto yung ating konstitusyon, no?
31:31.9
Pwede mo naman talaga siyang improve.
31:33.3
Pero, ang problema, eh, pag tinignan nyo po yung pagmumuka ng ilang mga nagsusulong ng pag-amenda o pag-revise ng konstitusyon,
31:39.4
eh, talagang hirap pa na, eh, pagkatiwalaan, eh.
31:42.1
Ito yung mga political dynasties, ito yung mga talagang, ah, dikit sa mga malalaking negosyante, o, diba?
31:50.1
Kaya hindi natin maiiwasan na magduda.
31:55.5
So, sana malinaw po yung dating ko sa inyo, no?
31:57.8
Hindi po ganun kabilis ang internet connection natin ngayong gabi.
32:00.7
Pero, yun nga po.
32:03.7
Tuloy pa rin tayo sa programa.
32:05.1
May mga gusto lang po akong batiin na ating mga supporters.
32:09.4
Itong, si classmate ng high school, talagang masugid na nanonood ito, eh, no?
32:15.0
Post nga natin yung comment ni Tune.
32:18.4
Wala pa kablay dito si Tune, eh.
32:20.3
Hindi ko alam kung ano bang nakain ito, eh.
32:22.9
Talagang bait-bait sa akin, eh.
32:25.3
Kaklasi ko ito ng high school sa San Bede.
32:27.7
Sabi niya, kudos.
32:29.0
Because of his program, mas naintindihan natin ang mga ganitong issues.
32:33.0
Maraming salamat.
32:34.2
Kasi nga, sa bigat ng problema natin dito sa, ano, sa Pilipinas,
32:38.5
eh, huwag na tayong dumabas.
32:39.4
Huwag dagdo sa mga nagpapakalat ng disinformation, diba?
32:42.7
Kung magagamitin natin yung whatever platform or means that we have
32:46.2
to help clarify issues sa mga tao, no?
32:50.0
You don't even have to say educate, eh.
32:51.8
Kasi may mga nao-offend, no?
32:52.8
Pag sinabi, bakit mo kami educate?
32:55.1
Eh, matalino naman kami.
32:56.2
Ikaw na matalino, diba?
32:59.6
Tsaka maganda, pag technical ang issues natin,
33:01.8
konting-konti yung trolls, no?
33:03.2
Kasi wala masyadong nakakaintinding trolls sa sobrang lalim na issues, no?
33:07.6
Kaya ngayon, medyo pahinga yung mga trolls.
33:09.4
Siguro sabi nila, kung gagawin natin yung...
33:12.1
I-imagine ko, ganito yung sabi ng mga trolls, eh.
33:14.7
Boss, ang topic nila ngayong konstitusyon, napaka-technical.
33:20.6
Medyo day-off muna kami, oh.
33:22.2
Miski-lunis, day-off muna.
33:23.8
Babawi kami pag medyo, ano,
33:26.5
may oras kami para mag-research.
33:29.1
Kasi baka hindi pumubro pag sinabi lang namin.
33:32.1
Bobo ka talaga, diba?
33:33.2
Yung ganun, medyo kulang, eh.
33:37.3
Medyo nagpapahinga muna yung mga trolls.
33:39.4
Sabi natin ngayong gabi.
33:40.7
So, binabati rin po natin si...
33:47.5
Good evening, Sir Christian.
33:49.7
Team replay sa Spotify po kami, ni Mrs. Alice.
33:53.9
Pinapakinggan ka namin habang nagwo-work.
33:55.8
Pa-shoutout po, more power.
33:57.3
Ayan, shoutout kay Joren Labaw.
34:00.4
I hope I pronounced your name correctly.
34:02.9
Ang spelling nito is G-E-O-R-E-N.
34:07.0
O, Goren or Geyoren.
34:09.5
Magpasensya na po.
34:10.2
Ako nagkamali ako.
34:11.8
Tapos, shoutout din po kay Mr. Ray David.
34:16.4
Shoutout sa kanya at sa kanyang partner na si Chai Gatlula.
34:21.2
Maraming salamat sa inyo.
34:23.3
Tapos, eto, grabe.
34:24.6
Nag-message siya akin.
34:27.2
Yung pangalan niya sa Facebook.
34:29.3
After months of trying to get your Facts First merch,
34:32.2
my brother finally got lucky to score me one.
34:34.9
He's been trying for months.
34:37.7
I wish I could get all the colors.
34:39.1
Thank you for your continued practice of factual and real journalism.
34:43.4
May your professionalism and integrity rub onto your peers.
34:48.8
Taga Chicago siya.
34:49.8
Napakabait naman.
34:50.5
Nakakadapa ng puso yung mga ganyang comments.
34:52.9
Maraming maraming salamat.
34:54.1
Yung mga nagahanap ng t-shirts,
34:57.0
may mga paparating.
34:58.0
Sige, dadamihan pa natin.
35:02.5
Abangan nyo pala.
35:03.2
Maglalabas tayo ng Valentine's Edition ng ating Facts First shirt.
35:06.5
Medyo iba yung design natin doon.
35:09.0
soot ko ito yung tinatawag na,
35:11.9
ano pang ano ito?
35:14.6
Medyo mas favorite ko ito eh.
35:17.1
Medyo maangas yung dating eh.
35:18.5
Pang industrial eh.
35:20.9
Shoutout kay Tem.
35:28.3
Greetings from Brampton, Ontario, sa Canada.
35:32.0
Sino po ba yung mga kanina?
35:33.3
Hindi natin nabasa agad eh.
35:35.8
Si Melvin Rellamas.
35:39.0
Shoutout sa kanyang asawa na si Maricar, Rellamas.
35:44.1
Grabe naman si Melvin, no?
35:46.2
Salamat sa iyo, ha?
35:48.5
Happy birthday naman kay Tita Vinia de Leon at Nika Umali.
35:54.1
Happy birthday sa inyo.
35:56.0
Sabi ni Hashira Pillars, sumiyak talaga si Sir Christian Kometrols.
36:00.1
Oo, nakakayak talaga eh.
36:01.8
Affected na affected ako eh.
36:04.6
Kay Fred Prometilla.
36:07.3
Shoutout kay Fred and Rosie.
36:09.0
Prometilla, watching from Stuttgart, Germany.
36:13.8
Sir Hermie, watching from Florida.
36:16.7
Sir Kennedy, watching from Milan.
36:19.2
Ba, gising na, gising.
36:21.1
Ah, sa bagay, ano kayo, no?
36:23.3
Hapon ngayon sa inyo, no?
36:26.9
Si Sky, shoutout from the mom, Saudi Arabia.
36:31.0
Ito si Wawi, Suleiman.
36:33.0
Thank you for this program.
36:34.2
Mas nagkaroon ako ng clarification and interest to understand the Philippine Constitution.
36:38.5
At mga pagbabagot, kaugnayan nito sa current issues.
36:43.0
Alam niyo po kasi, pag hindi natin masyadong alam yung issue, mas prone tayo sa manipulation ng mga taong masasama.
36:55.0
Dahil hindi natin naintindihan, pwede sabihin na na, hindi ganito yan, bumerma ka lang.
36:59.7
Kasi meron silang mga evil intentions.
37:02.7
Kaya ingat kayo rin sa mga bait-baitan.
37:04.6
Dito naman sa programa, alam niyo naman kung niloloko ko kayo.
37:09.0
So, yung mga sinasabi natin dito, yung mga pinag-uusapan natin dito, pwede niyo namang i-double check it.
37:14.4
Pwede niyo i-google, no?
37:16.0
Yan ang pinakaiba natin dito.
37:17.8
Kumagaya, I'm very confident na kung ano man yung informasyon na nakukuha niyo rito,
37:23.8
hindi ko po kayo ginagago, hindi ko kayo dinadala sa kasinungalingan, o hindi ko kayo papahamak.
37:31.7
Siyempre, minsan pwede tayo magkamali, pero ano yan, lahat naman nagkakamali, di ba?
37:38.5
Ito, happy birthday sa wife ni Dennis Leonardo na si Elsie Leonardo.
37:50.0
Papa-attendance si... Sino yung papa-attendance?
37:53.8
Si Renji de la Peña from Baseco, Manila.
37:57.4
Sir, worth watching po talaga. Ay, salamat naman sa iyo.
38:01.7
Hindi ko na nabasa.
38:05.2
How's it going, mate?
38:06.5
Greetings from Brisbane, Australia.
38:10.5
Malay mo, baka mapadpad tayo dyan soon, no?
38:13.0
Sa Australia, pero sa Sydney.
38:17.9
Shout-out din from South Korea, kay Enor H10.
38:23.5
Huwag pa pa shout-out kayo, lagyan nyo naman yung pangalan nyo.
38:25.9
Si Celso Mindanao, watching from Lucena City, sa Quezon Province.
38:31.6
Si Fidel Cruz, hi sa iyo, from Hong Kong.
38:34.7
Si Domingo Castro.
38:38.5
Si Angel Nictano.
38:40.3
O, madalas manood to.
38:46.6
Namimiss daw niya si Llamas.
38:48.1
Ako, hindi ko namimiss eh.
38:51.5
Malay nyo, baka bukas, no?
38:53.7
Sumulpot na naman yung pagmumukha ni Llamas dito sa programa.
38:56.6
Tingnan natin, no?
39:01.4
Eto, si Ricora Nora Habana.
39:05.9
Darating tayo dyan.
39:16.8
Eto, from Caloocan.
39:18.9
Sa mga taga-Caloocan.
39:22.7
Supporter ni Trillanes to.
39:23.9
Si Trillanes kasi tatakbo for mayor yan sa Caloocan.
39:26.4
Pero hindi po ganun kadali ang laban dyan, ha?
39:28.8
Hindi po, kaya naging senador ka eh, malaking chance ang manalo ka sa lokal.
39:33.0
Alam nyo po, iba yung takbo ng politika at kampanya dyan sa lokal.
39:38.5
Anyway, magandang gabi rin sa iyo.
39:40.1
Den 7, watching from North Cotabato.
39:43.3
Ayan, maraming salamat sa iyo.
39:44.7
Si Jocelyn, gusto i-guess ulit si Alan.
39:47.7
O, sige, tingnan natin.
39:50.5
Okay, sige, pasensya na po.
39:54.6
Maraming salamat po sa inyong lahat sa Team Replay, sa Team Delay.
39:58.1
Maraming maraming salamat sa inyo.
40:00.1
Ang dami po nating episodes na naku-upload ngayon sa Spotify, sa Apple Podcast.
40:03.9
O, sana, pakinggan nyo.
40:05.6
Baka mas gusto nyo dun makinig.
40:07.3
Ayan, habol kay Herbie, watching from Shanghai.
40:11.7
Kasama yung kanyang wife si Tin.
40:16.6
Ayan, maraming salamat.
40:17.8
Sorry, napadigay ako.
40:21.0
Eto, watching from Valenzuela po ito, si Mame.
40:24.3
Tapos, si Heart ng Pasig, watching from Pasig City.
40:30.9
Maraming salamat po sa inyo.
40:32.1
And kita-kita po tayo bukas.
40:33.8
Ako po si Chris Yelisera.
40:35.1
And magandang gabi po sa inyong lahat.
41:07.2
Thank you for watching!
41:37.2
Thank you for watching!
