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00:00.0
Alright, yan! Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isang mga live stream
00:06.2
Mga kabatas natin, ituloy natin yung pagdibang kay Fiscal EJ
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Kay Fabry, mga kabatas natin
00:10.9
Kasi nga, lumulusot siya
00:14.0
Ang hirap lumusot, no?
00:18.1
Ang hirap lumusot kung wala kang palusot
00:21.5
Ito, saan ba tayo nagtapos nung huli?
00:26.6
Okay, yung sinasabi niya daw na gumawa ako ng general statement
00:31.1
About something na sinabi ni Atty. Rizal na kaibigan niya
00:37.5
Joke, no? Hindi lang yan
00:41.2
Hindi lang yan, mga kabatas natin
00:44.1
Marami pa siyang sinabi dito at huwag na tayong magpatumpik-tumpik pa
00:48.3
Pakinggan natin siya kasi sabi niya, kailangan daw pakinggan din natin yung mga videos niya
00:53.4
These lawsuits are in essence retributions
00:56.6
Retaliation suits filed against individuals who raise an issue of public concern
01:03.9
So itong si Fiscal EJ dito
01:07.1
Nagle-lecture siya na parang hindi ako abugado
01:12.1
Nagle-lecture siya na parang hindi ko alam ang nature ng isang slap suit
01:26.6
Kasi nga nagpapalusot ka na lang
01:28.4
You know that you are taking me out of context
01:31.8
Tapos sasabihin mo na generic o general yung statement na ginawa ko
01:37.5
Sa isang reaction ko sa isang abugado na kaibigan mo
01:44.3
This raising of an issue of public concern need not lead to the filing of a case
01:49.3
Kala mo kung maka-lecture, no?
01:55.3
Para lang makapag-lecture
01:56.6
Para lang makalusot
02:13.6
It has to go to this extent
02:17.0
Na sobrang obvious ka na
02:19.0
Sobrang obvious ka na
02:24.0
The evolution of Fiscal EJ
02:26.4
The evolution of Fiscal EJ
02:27.2
Tignan nyo, diba?
02:30.4
Wala akong pakialam
02:34.2
Wala akong pakialam
02:35.6
Kung ano man yung
02:37.2
Merong kayo ni Meloyap
02:39.6
Merong kayo ni ganyan
02:40.9
Merong kayo ng mga ampalaya
02:45.4
So, what happened?
02:48.6
Sinabi mo lang pala yun
02:50.7
Are you watching your videos?
02:56.4
Sigurado ka ba na hindi mo lang binabasa yan?
03:05.6
From Fiscal to Toolful Defender
03:07.5
You're making claims
03:14.1
Kasi pati nung una kitang sinagot
03:22.3
Kasi nga, gumagawa ka ng content
03:25.5
That are actually
03:28.0
Criticizing my content
03:31.3
Pero sinasabi mo, hindi naman
03:32.6
Marami lang nagtatanong sa'yo tungkol doon
03:40.3
Yung absurd na example?
03:47.5
It is enough that a citizen
03:49.2
Espouses a view on a matter of public opinion
03:56.4
Nung mga bagay na sinasabi ko
03:58.6
Are you listening to yourself?
04:05.5
I already said that
04:07.9
Many times before
04:09.4
Tapos uulitin mo lang sa akin
04:18.2
As if I don't know it
04:21.4
What's happening to you?
04:25.5
Tell me something I don't know please
04:30.0
You're just wasting my time
04:40.7
Age of Sexual Consent din
04:42.5
Naglabas ako ng video
04:48.1
Nakipagrelasyon sa
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Menordi edad, 16 years old
04:55.5
tapos ako pa daw yung nagpapakalat
05:01.2
na kapag nakipagrelasyon ka sa
05:09.0
tao na 16 years old na pwede
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nang magbigay ng sexual consent
05:18.4
eh that is my position
05:21.2
and our position all along
05:22.9
I don't understand you
05:31.8
ang kumontra sa sarili mo
05:33.6
when you said that slap suits are not meant to be
05:37.2
oh my goodness because I was answering
05:41.1
bangayan maneuver
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tignan natin kung sasagutin niya na yung maneuver
05:51.4
paanong kinontra yung
05:52.9
so sa tingin mo hindi ko alam
05:54.9
ang definition ng slap suit
05:56.3
I made content about slap suits
06:04.8
I was talking about a specific
06:16.0
statement by your
06:19.7
at sumangayon ka din sa akin
06:25.1
I have to silence
06:26.8
ito naman ang pangatlong patutsada
06:29.7
ni Ginongong Libayan
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nung nagbibideo ito
06:35.0
nung naglalabas ng video
06:36.1
hindi naglalabas ng muka
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ngayon naglabas ng muka
06:39.2
mukhang pangit yata yung kinalabasan
06:41.0
alam mo ator ni Libayan
06:52.9
bakit nanonood lang siya dito sa taong ito eh
07:03.1
mukhang pangit yata yung kinalabasan
07:04.9
alam mo ator ni Lib
07:07.1
sige tignan natin yung sasabihin niya
07:12.4
kasi baka sabihin niya hindi ko pinapanood yung palabas niya
07:15.0
bayan for sure alam mo
07:17.0
dahil abogado ka rin
07:18.1
na ang validity ng isang argumento
07:20.8
ay hindi nakukuha sa pakapangit
07:22.7
sa pakapala ng mukha
07:23.6
I was not referring to the mukha
07:27.7
kinalabasan ng mga ginawa mo
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why don't you watch it
07:34.4
the validity ng isang argumento
07:41.1
ay hindi nakukuha
07:42.4
sa pakapala ng mukha
07:46.8
at hindi rin nakukuha
07:48.9
sa pagpuputol-putol ng video
07:50.4
at pag take out of context
07:52.0
iplay mo kaya yung buong video
07:56.1
sa susunod na reaction mo
07:58.6
pero hindi mo gagawin yun e
07:59.8
kasi hindi mo ginagawa lahat e
08:01.4
inaabandon mo na lang lahat yung mga kalukuhan mo e
08:12.6
hindi ka naman naglalabas ng mukha noong umpisa
08:14.9
yung mukha man o wala
08:24.7
pangit man o baganda
08:26.5
tabingi man o matuwid
08:28.1
kung tama at naaayon sa batas
08:30.8
ang mga sinasabi mo
08:32.0
tama ba yung sinasabi mo?
08:38.9
yung sweeping generalizations mo
08:48.9
ito ay mananatiling tama
08:52.7
alam mo pambatang mga argumento e
09:03.6
paano galing dyan sa mga tropa mo dyan?
09:10.9
pinuputol nyo lang yung video
09:12.2
I was not referring?
09:14.9
to the face there?
09:18.2
I was referring to the things
09:20.5
pagkatapos mong naglabas ng mukha
09:22.7
kasi sinasabi ko na
09:29.6
at Vturney Rizal maglabas na rin ng mukha
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yun yung konteksto nun
09:38.7
yun yung konteksto nun
09:39.5
yun yung konteksto nun
09:40.7
yun yung konteksto nun
09:43.0
yun yung konteksto nun
09:43.0
yun yung konteksto nun
09:43.1
yun yung konteksto nun
09:44.6
yun yung konteksto nun
09:44.9
By the way, the last time I checked, nanalo ako sa debate sa Age of Sexual Consent dahil sa mas naniwala ang tatlong justices sa mga argumento na iprinesenta ko.
10:01.6
That's uncontested.
10:12.3
Inuulit-ulit nga namin dito yan eh.
10:14.9
Sa tingin mo ba hindi ko na naman alam yan?
10:21.6
Paano tayo magkakaroon ng maayos na sagutan, Fabry, kapag lahat ng sinasabi mo sa akin ay mga bagay na alam ko na?
10:32.3
Slapshoot. Definition.
10:36.0
Pati yung pagkapanalo mo dyan.
10:39.3
Ikaw nga nagsabing ayaw mong pag-usapan eh. Kami nga pinag-uusapan namin eh.
10:44.9
Kaya nga 3-0 eh. Unanimous. Ako 3, ikaw 0.
10:52.6
So huwag mo nang pagdiskitahan kung naglalabas man ako ng mukha o hinahin.
11:05.5
What's your point there? Naglabas ka na ng mukha?
11:24.0
Panalo tapos ayaw pag-usapan.
11:26.8
Well, congratulations.
11:29.2
Hindi sa mga videos ko.
11:31.2
Ang pagdidiscuss ng...
11:32.7
At saka hindi issue yun. Hindi ko issue yun.
11:37.4
Sabi ko, okay na naglabas ka na.
11:40.8
Pero hindi maganda yung kinalabasan kasi ganyan yung mga naging argumento mo.
11:47.8
Dahil dinidare ko rin si Atty. Rizal na maglabas ng mukha.
12:01.1
Tamang pag-unawa sa batas ay hindi beauty contest.
12:06.8
Tamang pag-unawa sa batas ay hindi beauty contest.
12:09.5
O yung age of sexual consent.
12:12.2
O walang nakalagay sa batas?
12:14.9
Nanalo ka lang sa debate.
12:20.4
Pero panalo rin ako sa maraming bagay.
12:25.8
Katulad ng lahat ng sinasabi ng kampo nyo na naglalabas ako ng fake news.
12:31.0
Dahil ang age of sexual consent ay 16, lahat sila kinain nila yun.
12:44.9
Yung grupo nyo na pinaglalaban nyo na 16-16 dahil sa Republic Act.
13:07.8
I will not lose sleep kung hanggang ngayon you are still mentally stuck sa udang case.
13:14.2
Sino ang mentally stuck sa udang case?
13:22.3
Madami akong alam na kaso.
13:24.2
Ikaw na naman yung nag-iimbento.
13:27.1
Pinasura na ito ng tulagan case.
13:31.4
Pinasura ng tulagan case?
13:35.0
Tignan natin yung bangayan niya.
13:36.4
Bring the debate about the bangayan case.
13:41.2
Tignan natin kung hindi niya kinataha.
13:44.2
Ito naman ang sinabi ko during the debate about the bangayan case.
13:48.3
When we talk about age of sexual consent, it should always refer to a minor.
13:54.2
It does not refer to a person of legal age.
13:57.3
There is no question and it was never an issue that a person of legal age can validly give consent to a sexual act.
14:05.7
And why do I say that the age of sexual consent should always refer to a minor?
14:11.0
No less than the Supreme Court in Bangayan v. People,
14:14.2
GR No. 235-610, September 16, 2020,
14:18.5
declared that the capacity to give sexual consent refers to individuals between 12 and below 18.
14:27.0
Kaya mali po ang sinasabing 18 ni Ginong Libayan.
14:31.6
O, mali rin yung sinasabi mong 16.
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Nye, nye, nye, nye.
14:40.2
Pasok ba, not by.
14:44.2
Hindi nyo kasi alaw eh.
14:47.7
Nadinis karatehan ko kayo.
14:55.0
Sa sikat ng araw na ang sexual consent ay tumutukoy lamang sa isang minor de edad.
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Before it was 12, now it is 16 pursuant to RA 11648.
15:06.3
O, dyan. May video kang ginawa.
15:08.2
Na basis na udang, it was 18 and not 12.
15:14.2
Pasisinungalingan mo yun?
15:18.1
May kopya si Kayo na download niya.
15:24.4
Ba't mo hindi na-brinodcast yun?
15:26.8
Ba't hindi mo nalinabas yung video na yun?
15:34.3
Tapos ngayon 12 to 16 ka.
15:36.4
What happened to the udang case?
15:44.2
Ito na yung pinaghandaan mo ng tatlong buwan?
16:14.2
Ito na yung pinaghandaan mo ng tatlong buwan?
16:15.4
Ito na yung pinaghandaan mo ng tatlong buwan?
16:15.5
Ito na yung pinaghandaan mo ng tatlong buwan?
16:21.1
Naghanap ako ng direct quote at naghanap ako ng indirect quote.
16:26.8
Naghanap din ako ng implication.
16:37.1
Wala kang lusot sa bangayan maneuver mo.
16:48.7
In case when I said that the capacity to give sexual consent refers to individuals...
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This is talking about capacity to act under the civil law.
17:04.8
Makakote ka lang. Mali pa.
17:16.2
It was my conclusion upon reading...
17:19.4
It was my conclusion!
17:28.7
Okay! Okay! Okay!
17:35.1
Sino susundan natin?
17:37.6
Yung Supreme Court?
17:39.3
O yung conclusion mo?
17:44.2
Siguro dun sa mga hindi marunong magbasa, maniniwala sa'yo.
17:51.2
Pero pagbabasahin niyang kinote mo, hindi naman related.
17:60.0
Okay! Sinong paniniwalaan natin, Fabry?
18:03.2
Yung conclusion mo o yung Supreme Court?
18:08.7
Hindi mo conclusion yun.
18:10.7
I will not let you go!
18:14.2
Off this particular topic that easily.
18:18.6
It was not your conclusion.
18:22.6
You were referring to the Supreme Court decision, Fabry!
18:28.3
Listen to what you are saying.
18:31.0
Makinig ka sa sarili mo.
18:33.1
Panuorin mo yung mga videos mo.
18:35.3
Himay-himayan mo.
18:36.8
Himay-himayan mo.
18:38.1
I-digest mo hanggang sa...
18:40.7
Maintindihan mo ng maayos yung mga sinasabi mo.
18:46.0
...the bangayan case that with respect to age of sexual consent,
18:50.2
it should always refer to a minor.
18:54.1
Ikaw lang itong nag-assume.
18:57.7
Ikaw lang itong nag-assume.
19:00.2
Okay, okay, balikan natin.
19:01.5
Noong libayan, malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw na ang sexual consent
19:05.9
ay tumutukoy lamang sa isang minority edad.
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Before it was 12, now it is 16 pursuant to RA 1164,
19:14.2
But, that's wrong, right?
19:24.9
There, it's clear
19:26.6
That's why it's wrong
19:35.7
Supreme Court in Bangayan vs. People
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September 16, 2020
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Yung Supreme Court daw yung nag-declare
19:49.8
Mali yata yung unang sinabi ko
19:51.9
Supreme Court ka ba, Fabry?
19:58.5
Yung sinasabi ko na sino ang susundan natin
20:01.9
O conclusion niya
20:05.2
Pagpapanuorin natin yung mga sinabi niya
20:09.6
The Supreme Court declared
20:12.7
Yung Supreme Court ang nag-declare ng conclusion niya
20:17.9
Si Fabry ay Supreme Court
20:26.9
Malinaw pa sa sikat ng araw, Fabry
20:32.1
Hindi mo conclusion yan
20:35.8
Sinabi mo declaration niya ng Supreme Court
20:40.8
The Supreme Court
20:42.7
Maniniwala ako sayo
20:46.3
Yung Supreme Court
20:50.7
Lokohin mo na lang ang iba
21:02.6
Less than the Supreme Court in Bangayan vs. People
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September 16, 2020
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That the capacity
21:11.8
To be a Supreme Court
21:12.7
Gives sexual consent
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To individuals between 12 and below 18
21:19.8
Ngayon, mamili ka
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Hindi mo pwedeng maging
21:33.1
Kasi dineclare ng Supreme Court
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Dalaw na lang pagpipiliin mo
21:37.8
Supreme Court ka ba
21:42.7
Ngayon, kahit ano man yung piliin mo doon
21:45.8
At hindi ka makakalusot
21:47.6
Tatlong buwan nating hinantay ito
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Tapos ang sasabihin niya
21:55.8
Conclusion niya lang yun
21:57.2
Tapos the Supreme Court
21:58.6
No less than the Supreme Court declared
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In Bangayan vs. People
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September 16, 2020
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Nang tatlong buwan yan
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Yung isa naman doon
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Nagtiis ng tatlong taon
22:19.2
Tapos malalaman mo
22:23.1
Yung mahal mo may asawa
22:28.6
Conclusion niya daw yun
22:30.0
Supreme Court ka pala
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Kasi dineclare mo yun
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Ay, umangon ko sayo
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Ah, balikan natin yung sinabi niya
22:48.6
There was no direct quote
22:57.1
There was no indirect quote
22:59.8
There was even no implication at all
23:02.1
I read it many times
23:03.9
I read the Bangayan case many times
23:09.1
And I guess you read it many times also
23:11.4
For the past three months
23:13.2
Naghanap ka ng palusot
23:16.0
Tapos ang palusot mo lang
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Conclusion mo lang yun
23:23.3
No less than the Supreme Court declared
23:35.7
I said that the capacity
23:37.6
To give sexual consent
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Refers to individuals between 12
23:41.8
To be allowed to have a sexual consent
23:44.8
no less than the Supreme Court declared
23:48.0
it was my conclusion
23:56.1
upon reading the Bangayan case
24:03.3
no less than the Supreme Court
24:09.2
it was my conclusion
24:11.6
sige, bahala ka sa buhay mo
24:14.9
simple yung English na lang yun
24:19.5
panuorin mo na lang yung videos mo
24:21.2
alam mo, hindi lulusot yung palusot mo na yan
24:26.2
in the age of sexual consent
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it should, again, putting words
24:30.1
in my mouth that I made such
24:32.7
panuorin mo kasi yung video ko
24:38.1
naghanap ako ng direct
24:41.4
tapos implication
24:47.4
we argue in good faith
24:50.5
sana we argue in good faith
24:54.8
of course it's not your conclusion
24:56.8
bakit ko pa ba i-expound
24:59.1
magpapalusot lang na naman kayo
25:03.1
had it been my intention
25:05.8
ha, attorney Libayan
25:07.1
to quote the exact words of the Supreme Court
25:09.4
I would have prefixed
25:11.4
my statement with the words
25:14.3
no less than the Supreme Court
25:33.9
eh nagsasalita kayo
25:35.9
makikita ko ba kung may quote
25:37.1
tsaka may open quotation
25:40.5
at saka close quotation
25:41.9
kaya nga hinanap ko doon sa
25:44.2
hinanap ko doon sa
25:48.2
because maybe I missed it
25:50.4
I trusted you that it's there
25:55.7
conclusion mo pala
25:57.1
pero palusot mo lang yung conclusion
26:03.4
I should have stated it in verbatim
26:06.6
nag-ano ka nga dyan
26:09.7
naka-underline it
26:11.2
hindi nga related
26:12.2
dun sa sinasabi mo
26:13.2
makapagpalabas ka lang
26:14.3
ng kung ano-anong quotation mo
26:16.4
Supreme Court decision
26:17.6
which is not related at all
26:27.4
under the civil law
26:29.0
cannot be equated
26:29.9
to give sexual consent
26:49.1
Supreme Court ka na
26:50.1
I would have started
26:52.5
what the Supreme Court said
26:54.1
the Supreme Court
26:59.9
if you were making a conclusion
27:08.8
you should have started
27:11.9
hindi the Supreme Court
27:17.6
because if it's a
27:21.4
declaration of the
27:24.0
from the Supreme Court
27:26.8
the Supreme Court
27:27.8
then makakalusot ka
27:31.1
the mayor declared
27:50.2
pasisimplihan ko sa'yo ha
27:53.8
yung website na yun
27:58.9
tapos sa tiktok.com
28:05.8
the mayor declared
28:07.4
that there are no
28:14.8
nung poster sa tiktok yun
28:16.9
conclusion ba yun
28:22.7
o sinabi ng mayor yun
28:32.2
just like when you said
28:34.1
the Supreme Court
28:39.3
the Supreme Court
28:40.0
declared in Bangayon
29:00.7
may narinig ka bang
29:03.0
ganyan na sinabi ko
29:06.9
the Supreme Court
29:08.1
bakit hindi may paliwanag
29:09.6
kung ano ibig sabihin nun
29:10.9
ggwap na talaga ito
29:15.9
so yung sinabi nila
29:28.1
ay declare martial law
29:30.1
conclusion ng ibang tao yun
29:42.9
conclusion ng ibang tao yun
29:45.4
sige bahala ka sa buhay mo
29:50.8
it was just a figment
29:52.4
of your wild imagination
29:55.0
three months kang umiwas
30:03.8
ang sagot mo sa Bangayon
30:06.4
figment of your wild imagination
30:10.9
ano pang ibig sabihin ng
30:12.9
ano pang ibig sabihin ng
30:36.6
the Supreme Court
30:46.4
Sinasabi mo na Supreme Court
30:47.9
Yung nagsabi ng opinion mo Fabry
30:49.8
Sabi nga na tulad nga na sinabi ko
30:54.2
Kung hindi ka Supreme Court
30:55.7
Paano mong magiging
30:59.4
Such a direct quote
31:03.5
So why jump to such misleading conclusion
31:07.1
Para ipalabas mo na ay misquoted
31:10.0
A Supreme Court decision
31:11.2
What is the meaning
31:16.1
Of the Supreme Court
31:17.4
No less than the Supreme Court
31:20.7
Bigyan mo nga ako ng ibang
31:31.4
Ako ba talaga ang mali
31:34.0
Pag mali yung pagkakaintindi ko
31:38.5
Doon sa no less than
31:39.9
The Supreme Court declared Fabry
31:41.4
I will say sorry to you
31:43.3
I will say sorry to you
31:50.1
Because I think this is too much already
32:00.7
Inanticipate ko na ang magiging reply mo dito
32:05.3
Eh bakit sinabi mo na dineklara ng Supreme Court
32:08.5
Ay you're the one who said that
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Used the word declared
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Merely to stress the point
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That in the Bangayan case
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The Supreme Court clearly differentiated
32:17.4
Between the concept of consent and
32:34.4
Lalo naging nakakatawa Fabry
32:39.9
Fabry this is simple English
32:44.3
Please don't treat the people
32:46.6
Who are watching you
32:49.2
You used the word declared
32:58.0
Are we talking about the same English language
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I taught English for three years
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I even taught grammar
33:17.4
Kasi nga mga Koreans yung tinuturoan ko eh
33:29.6
Aside from you Fabry
33:31.8
Who used the Supreme Court declared
33:36.4
To stress something
33:39.7
Lalabas ka dito sa irrelevant na quote mo
33:41.7
Akala ko nga okay na eh
33:55.8
That I'll be capitalizing on that
33:59.6
Tapos ilulusok mo lang ganito
34:00.8
The Supreme Court clearly differentiated
34:02.6
Between the Supreme Court
34:06.2
Eh bakit sinabi mo na dineklara ng Supreme Court
34:09.3
Ano bang ibig sabihin kasi
34:11.2
Ng pagdeklara ng Supreme Court
34:19.7
Sabi niya hindi ko daw pinapanood eh
34:25.7
To everything that you said there
34:32.3
Diyan na muna tayo
34:34.0
Maraming salamat mga kapatid natin
34:42.1
I just declared to stress
34:46.2
Sinong na-stress ngayon?
34:54.9
Maraming salamat mga kapatid natin
34:56.5
At syempre tulong lang yung sinasabi mo
34:58.0
Matulog po tayo na maimbing
35:00.4
Na yung natutulog na maimbing
35:01.8
Siya yung lagi yung panalo
35:06.2
Aayo ko na magbibigay ka
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Ng wrong information
35:09.1
You're disseminating a wrong information
35:12.2
Galit po ako dyan
