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00:01.0
Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang live stream.
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Mga kabatas natin, ang daming tanong dito.
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Ang daming nagtatanong sa akin tungkol dito.
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Siyempre, isa dyan ay yung unang-una.
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Pwede ba siya manatili pa bilang isang senador?
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Kahit convicted siya of bribery.
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Pangalawa, anong penalty?
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Eh, pwede ba siyang makalaya, makapagpiansa?
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Okay? At kung ano-ano pa.
00:36.0
Okay? Ito mga kabatas natin, basahin muna natin yung balita.
00:39.7
Sabi, Jingoy Estrada acquitted of plunder.
00:42.3
Plunder yung mas mabigat na kaso.
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Okay? Yung plunder na yan ay kapag ikaw ay nagdispal ko ng pera na 50 million and above.
00:52.5
Okay? Yan yung plunder. So nakasuhan siya dyan.
00:58.9
Acquitted, ibig sabihin, hindi na patunayan yung proof beyond reasonable doubt.
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Pero, mga kabatas natin, dito sa bribery, sa pork barrel scam, convicted siya.
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Anong ibig sabihin yan? Ibig sabihin, mga kabatas natin, nakita ng korte na merong proof beyond reasonable doubt.
01:23.7
Tignan natin, ha?
01:26.8
Mga kabatas natin.
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Sabi niya, Estrada was convicted of one count of direct bribery and two counts of indirect bribery.
01:35.2
So, pag ganyan, mga kabatas natin, tatlong kaso niya yung pumasok.
01:39.0
He will remain free as he appeals those convictions.
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Kasi nga, mga kabatas natin, everything is appealable naman hanggang umabot ito ng Supreme Court.
01:49.7
So, until hindi ito nagiging final, sagutin natin yung unang tanong.
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Dahil hindi pa ito final, he is still presumed innocent.
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Ibig sabihin, hindi ito pwedeng gamitin laban sa kanya.
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Kunwari sa Ethics Committee.
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Ethics Committee ng Senado.
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Gagamitin ito laban sa kanya.
02:15.8
Bakit? It is a mere pending case.
02:19.6
If it is a pending case, it is not final and executory, it means...
02:24.6
It means, you still enjoy the presumption of innocence.
02:34.6
Sandigan ba yan, mga kabatas natin, yung nag-release ng verdict kay Estrada noong Friday?
02:42.7
Sabing ganyan, one count of direct bribery and two counts of indirect bribery.
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Those carry a sentence of 8 to 9 years for direct bribery and 2 to 3 years for indirect bribery.
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He was also ordered to pay 3 million fine.
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So dito, masasagot natin, mga kabatas natin, kung eligible pa siya for bail.
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Bail can only be denied if the penalty is reclusion perpetua and the evidence of guilt is strong.
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Dito, mga kabatas natin, ang penalty lang ay 8 to 9 years, 2 to 3 years, at saka...
03:19.9
O, dalawang 2 to 3 years.
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No? Isang 8 to 9 years, dalawang 2 to 3 years.
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Walang reclusion perpetua.
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Kahit may isa lang sana na reclusion perpetua dyan, pwedeng ma-deny yung bail.
03:30.5
Pero dito, mga kabatas natin, he will remain free.
03:34.8
If he files bail.
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Ngayon, kailangan niya bang mag-motion dito?
03:41.0
Most likely may recommended bail na dito kasi nga itong mga offense na ito ay hindi reclusion perpetua.
03:50.0
Itong sabi niyang ganyan, sniriko, saan appeal niya ng attorney CA or SC?
03:54.6
No? Itong Sandigan Bayan, mag-CCA muna yan, tapos magko-court of appeals.
04:03.1
So, mag-a-appeal ito, most likely.
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Ito, sabi dito, Estrada's indirect bribery conviction carries an accessory penalty of suspension from public office.
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It is uncertain if this is immediately executory or if he has a chance to appeal.
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I will make this certain.
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Suspension na ginagawa bago ng investigasyon o habang investigasyon.
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Ano ang tawag doon?
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Preventive suspension.
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Meron din yung penalty na suspension.
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Yung penalty na suspension na yun, pag nag-final and executory na yun, yun yung kailangan ng due process.
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Tama yung sinabi ano, preventive.
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Preventive suspension, yun yun.
05:27.0
Yung isa, suspension as a penalty.
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Ito yun, suspension as a penalty.
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So habang hindi pa, mga kabans natin, hindi pa nagiging final yan, hindi pa yan, pwedeng i-carry out.
05:44.5
Sabi niya, ito kasing kaso na ito, nag-ugat yan doon sa kaso nila ni Jeanette Napoles.
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Ito, convicted siya ng seven counts of corruption of public officials.
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She was ordered to pay 262 million.
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Lalaking pera, no?
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Like Estrada, Napoles was acquitted of plunder but she remains in jail for other convictions including plunder in relation to the Bong Revilla case where the senator was acquitted.
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Ang laking fiasco kasi talaga mga kabans natin.
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Doon sa mga sumubaybay noon dito sa ano, sa kaso.
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Eh, ang laking issue niya.
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Dito rin yata yung ano, no?
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Dito rin yung kaso kung saan involved si Atty. Villamor.
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Ayoko kasi magkamali eh.
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Baka may memory will fail me.
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Dito ba yun yung si Atty. Villamor, eh, ano?
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Freddy Villamor, eh, inaakusahan na...
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Yung lapwrappler, inaakusahan siya na nag-bribe ng 100 million?
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Kay Baligot, diba?
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Ah, ito nga, ito nga.
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Kasi parang abogado ni ano eh, abogado ni Villamor.
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Ah, sorry, abogado ni Napoles itong si Villamor.
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Hindi si Freddy Libayan, ha.
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Yung tunay na Freddy Villamor.
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So, sabi ko, hindi ko pwede.
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Then on March 27...
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Ito, natin na nyo.
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But Napoles' lawyer, Villamor, offered 100 million in bribe.
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That was 10 years ago.
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Bakit? At sinabi niya, pwede mo bang pagbik...
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Ah, nakipagkita po si General Dias sa akin dahil sabi niya, meron lang akong ididiscuss sa iyo.
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At alam ko po si General Dias dahil na-meet ko na siya once.
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Nagkita kami nung pitsan ko na si Jonathan Baligot.
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So, nag-meet po kami ni General Dias at tinanong ko kung bakit.
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At sinabi niya, pwede mo bang pagbigyan si Atty. Villamor ng isa pang meeting?
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Eh, tungkol saan, General? Sabi ko.
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Hindi ko alam. Basta pagbigyan mo isa pa, sabi niya.
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Sige po, sabihin mo kay Atty. Villamor na tawagan ako or mag-text to confirm.
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And immediately, tumawag si Atty. Villamor sa akin.
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So, as a courtesy...
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Ah, yan. Siya yan.
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At inulit lang niya yung offer po niya na 5 million.
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Opo. So, sabi ko, hindi ako...
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Bribe. 5 million.
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Pero nakalagay sa title, offered 100 million in bribe.
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Atty. Villamor, baka naman.
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Ito na, oh. Nagpuputukan na yung kaso, oh.
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Strada Staff, Polinterizme, Labayan.
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Oh, muntik ng Libayan yan.
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And the Police Staff, John Raymond Diaz, remain at large.
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Their cases are archived and warrants of arrest have been reissued.
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Yan. So, may outstanding silang alias warrant.
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Strada had been accused of pocketing 183 million of kickbacks
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from his Priority Development Assistance Fund.
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PIDAF. Discretionary Funds.
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Siya daw yung second of three senators to be acquitted of plunder in the pork barrel scam.
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A decade-long trial has seen lower-ranked staff fall, but lawmakers free.
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Strada, who won the senatorial comeback in 2022
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with the Marcos Lutertes late,
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is not completely off the hook of the graph allegations over the same controversy.
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Thunder has to involve an amount of 50 million and above.
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Alam na natin yan.
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Strada has been out on bail for almost seven years now
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after the same court granted his bail petition in 2017.
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Yan. So, ang mangyayari dyan, yung bail niya, outstanding pa lang yun.
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I-maintain niya lang yun.
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Hindi daw siya kasi yung main plunderer.
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Ito rin, meron din siyang...
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Si Juan Ponzi Inrele, meron siyang plunder case.
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Nag-endorse daw sila ng NGO, did not earn from the scam.
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This is Strada's second plunder win.
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He was charged alongside his father, former President Joseph Strada,
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over the accusation that they earned 4 billion from wetting operations, among others.
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Jingay Strada was cleared, but his father, President Strada, was convicted and pardoned later on
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by former President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
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Anyway, yun lang mga kabatas natin.
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Sa tingin ko, nasagot ko naman na lahat.
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Anong pa ba yung mga tanong?
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Anong pa ba yung mga tanong, mga kabatas natin?
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Di ba yun, madidisbar pag...
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Accusation pa naman eh.
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Siguro kung ano, kung meron silang proof, no?
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Makapaglabas sila ng ebidensya na ganun nga.
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Kasi, syempre, you have to prove evidence.
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You have to show evidence.
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Wala na siguro, no?
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Well, it's the weekend.
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Kaya, mga kabatas natin, maraming salamat.
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Tulad na lagi yung sinasabi, matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
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siya yung laging panalo.
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Paalam po, pansamantala.
