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00:00.0
Okay bro, dun sa previous episode pinag-usapan natin yung mga allegations na billion-billion yung binigay sa Davao
00:07.1
So yung sinasabing ginigipit sila, well siguro pero kumpara dun sa meron sila dati which is super huge daw
00:12.1
Almost 1 billion dollars, 51 billion pesos
00:15.0
Ngayon naman pag-usapan natin itong issue ng plunder cases
00:18.9
Nag-trending si Sen. Gingo Estrada na na-quit siya dun sa plunder charges
00:27.5
But at the same time there's also, I think there's still, hindi siya completely off the hook
00:32.9
Kasi doon pa rin yung issue ng
00:34.3
Indirect bribery, parang gano'n?
00:37.3
Yeah, yeah, I'm trying to pull out the exact case here, no?
00:41.5
Pero kasama gan yung years served, di ba?
00:43.9
Kung ilang taon siya na
00:44.9
I'll just read it bro, andito yung court document, okay
00:48.2
Whereof, in light of the foregoing premises, the court finds accused Jose Gingoy P. Ejercito Estrada
00:55.0
And Janet Lim Napoles
00:57.4
Not guilty of plunder based on reasonable doubt
01:01.3
Panalo talagang Pilipinas
01:03.6
However, the court finds accused Gingoy Estrada guilty
01:08.8
Beyond reasonable doubt of one count of direct bribery
01:12.7
Defined and penalized under Article 210 of the Revised Penal Code
01:16.4
Appreciating the mitigating circumstances of voluntary surrender
01:20.4
He is hereby sentenced to suffer the indeterminate penalty of imprisonment
01:24.7
Of up to 8 years of prison
01:26.7
As minimum to 9 years and 4 months of prison
01:30.6
Mayor as maximum with special temporary disqualification
01:33.6
Special temporary disqualification
01:35.9
And the accessory penalties of temporary absolute disqualification
01:39.5
And that of perpetual special disqualification from the right of suffrage
01:44.0
So even the right to vote could be affected here, no?
01:47.3
So he's also ordered to pay a fine of just around 3 million pesos
01:51.3
Further, accused Jose Gingoy Estrada is found guilty
01:54.6
Beyond reasonable doubt of two counts
01:56.7
Of indirect bribery
01:58.2
So there's one direct bribery
01:59.5
And then two counts of indirect bribery
02:01.4
Defined and penalized under Article 211 of the Revised Penal Code
02:04.9
Appreciating the mitigating circumstances
02:07.5
He is hereby sentenced to suffer the indeterminate penalty of 2 years and 4 months
02:12.5
Of prison correctional
02:14.5
And minimum to 3 years, 6 months and 20 days of prison correctional
02:19.2
As maximum for each count
02:20.4
He is also sentenced to suffer the penalties of suspension
02:23.1
And public censure
02:24.7
With the accessory penalties of suspension
02:26.7
From public office
02:28.2
From the right to follow a professional calling
02:30.6
And that of perpetual special disqualification
02:34.0
From the right of suffrage, right?
02:36.2
So even his voting power could be potentially affected by this
02:39.1
I will post that, guys
02:40.1
Let me just pull it out so people can see it
02:42.4
So they can understand
02:43.6
So this is the court document
02:45.4
We will post it here
02:47.1
So, you know, obviously
02:52.3
The headline is acquitted
02:55.5
But this is the headline
02:56.5
Ito yung dun sa pinakamabigat na charge
02:59.2
Yung talagang life sentence
03:01.9
Pag naano ka dun sa plunder
03:04.5
So nakalita siya dun
03:05.5
Pero dito sa direct indict by bribery
03:08.7
There are at least 3 charges I can see here
03:11.3
Medyo hindi siya naka-lusot
03:15.4
Hindi lang yung office position niya
03:18.2
But yung right of suffrage niya to vote
03:19.7
Could be suspended for good, diba?
03:22.1
Si Janet Napoles naman is found guilty
03:24.3
Beyond reasonable doubt of 5 counts of
03:26.5
Corruption of public officials
03:28.3
Defined and penalized under Article 212
03:30.5
Yun ang sinasabi ko
03:31.3
Yung problema sa journalism
03:32.3
Maglalagay ka ng headline
03:33.9
Kung sinabi mo lang
03:36.5
It misses the point, eh
03:38.6
You could have said
03:39.3
Partial victory or whatever
03:42.6
Dapat binasa mo talaga
03:44.2
Itong court document na loobas
03:46.4
They were still found guilty of something
03:48.0
Not just the highest charge
03:51.6
May corruption charge kay Janet Napoles
03:53.3
And may direct and indirect bribery naman dito
03:56.4
Yung election result last year
04:00.5
So if there's someone
04:02.0
Who should carefully watch this
04:03.9
Anan mangyari ngayon
04:07.6
A number of senators have already expressed support
04:10.1
Not necessarily I think the other Estrada
04:12.8
But Villanueva, etc
04:14.6
They have expressed support for
04:16.2
For Jingoy Estrada
04:18.3
The current president of the Senate
04:21.0
Has made it clear that
04:23.0
It is the duty of Jingoy to still say in the Senate
04:25.8
Unless all legal means
04:27.7
Have been exhausted
04:29.1
Pwede ito umakihan pa
04:33.3
But sandigan ba yan
04:34.8
Supreme Court na yung next
04:36.9
And this could take forever
04:39.5
So this could take forever
04:43.4
Baka mo ang safe si Jingoy
04:46.4
Midterm elections
04:49.5
Four or five years
04:50.6
Now we have a case whereby
04:52.3
Si Coco Pimental ba yan?
04:53.6
Yung nawalan ng position before
04:55.8
So it's not totally
04:58.7
Out of the realm of possibility
05:00.8
That still some shifts could happen
05:03.1
Do you think it's disqualified ba
05:07.9
Isang member yung Senado?
05:09.3
Alam ko dapat umakihan
05:10.5
Diba may replacement?
05:11.7
Parang na-replace si Anonon
05:13.5
Alam ko si Coco Pimental
05:14.3
Yung kasi may question sa elections eh
05:19.7
Mas malaki talaga yung isa
05:21.1
Kaya yung 13 ang pumasok
05:23.1
Nawala yung number 12
05:26.1
Nanalo siya talaga sa election
05:28.6
Kaso he just got disqualified
05:30.6
Kasi na-convict siya dun sa
05:32.4
Sa kaso ng bribery
05:35.2
That's a good point to make
05:37.9
Ang nakikita ko sa ibang bansa
05:39.1
Like what they do is
05:39.8
Special elections
05:41.3
Pag nagkaroon ng opening
05:42.3
Is special elections nila yan
05:43.9
And then pwede pong
05:44.7
Patang parang wala na eh
05:47.8
Thank you for pointing out
05:48.9
It remains vacant na lang
05:51.6
Maybe there'll be
05:52.2
New jurisprudential position on that
05:57.5
Kasi diba nakulong din sila
06:02.3
Hindi sila na-replace diba?
06:04.5
Last time I checked
06:07.3
Ako kasi I had the
06:08.2
Kokopi mental case in mind
06:09.7
That's a different case
06:10.4
That's about the election
06:11.8
Kasi the election siya na
06:14.8
But this is an interesting situation
06:17.0
We're looking at developing and all
06:20.1
Anong tingin mong
06:25.6
Pagdating sa fighting
06:26.8
Against corruption
06:28.2
Itong corruption na yan
06:29.1
It keeps on coming up
06:30.0
Sa public discourse natin
06:31.2
Nakita natin yung
06:33.2
Confidential fund
06:35.9
Allegations na laking fund
06:37.6
So on and so forth
06:38.3
Pero the same lang
06:40.0
Ang approval ratings
06:41.6
Ang daming issues
06:43.9
Nananalo pa rin sila
06:45.6
So parang ang gulo
06:50.1
I sometimes joke about it
06:52.5
Kasi mayroon akong
06:53.7
Linya parati dyan
06:54.8
I'm kind of like that
06:55.1
I'm kind of like that
06:55.2
I'm kind of cynical talaga
06:56.3
We have a culture
06:58.3
Na parang medyo okay
07:00.6
Basta tumutulong eh
07:05.7
Basta nakabenepisyo ka rin
07:08.3
Ito yung parati kong
07:12.8
Galit lang sa corruption
07:13.8
Kapag hindi sila kasama
07:16.7
Yun ang parati kong
07:25.1
May katotohanan eh
07:28.3
Ganun yung kultura
07:29.7
The change has to come
07:30.9
From the top up eh
07:34.5
Kailangan yung leader talaga na
07:36.0
Will have the political will
07:37.6
To stand up against
07:38.9
Everyone na kumikita eh
07:40.2
Kasi ang daming kumikita eh
07:44.1
Minsan SK pa lang
07:50.3
Sa barangay level
07:55.1
Lahat kumikita eh
08:01.3
I pin so much hope
08:02.7
Doon sa nangyayari
08:04.0
In places like Pasig
08:05.3
Kasi doon nakikita ko
08:20.4
And yung sabiding
08:24.0
Ang dami nagreklamo
08:25.7
Dati kumikita ako
08:27.7
Yung mga dayong kita ko
08:29.9
Pag inayos naman yung system
08:31.6
Kailangan magbayad
08:32.3
Inayos naman yung system
08:33.2
Madami namang tinatamaan
08:36.4
Ang hirap talaga baguin eh
08:39.6
Actually sa ibang bansa
08:40.6
May terminology na
08:41.5
Efficient corruption
08:42.6
Yung may corruption
08:43.6
Pero ginagawa yung kalsada
08:44.8
Ginagawa yung industriya
08:48.0
Yung mga kapitbay natin
08:49.4
Napakakorakot din
08:53.8
Just to give an example
08:54.6
Nasuspend po yung dati nilang presidente
08:57.4
Dahil sa corruption
08:58.0
So I'm just telling you
08:58.9
How serious things are
09:02.4
Recently suspended
09:03.0
Transport minister ba yun?
09:06.4
Walang corruption sa mga bansa
09:08.0
Nagde-deliver sila eh
09:10.7
Ginagawa yung maayos na kalsada
09:12.5
Ang problema sa atin
09:14.9
Tapos siguro yung pera
09:17.9
Doing mumbo jumbo
09:22.4
Nag Pegasus siguro
09:24.2
Yun ang problema ko eh
09:26.7
Sa corruption natin
09:28.5
It's not only morally
09:29.6
But it's economically
09:30.8
Also very inefficient
09:34.4
And dun yung patronage politics
09:36.2
Have you experienced
09:37.9
Yung mga nakaupo eh
09:40.9
But you're also right
09:42.0
The sociology of it
09:43.3
Marami kang na-meet siguro
09:45.0
Siguro staff lang
09:46.7
Or kamag-anak lang
09:47.6
Tapos nagyayabang sila na
09:49.3
Yung mga nagko-comment dito sa
09:51.9
Maraming nauwi si titong ganyan
09:55.5
Mayroon na kami lahat
09:57.3
Diba alam mo yung ganoon
09:58.1
Marami akong nakita
09:59.8
Nagyayabang pa nga sila
10:01.1
Na may ginagawa sila
10:01.9
Nagyayabang pa eh
10:02.5
That shows smart sila
10:04.2
Walang moral ano eh
10:09.8
Corruption sa atin eh
10:15.0
Pag sa social media naman
10:16.3
Ang awayan lang is
10:19.5
Pero lahat ng mga kakampi ko
10:21.4
So may ganoon din
10:31.4
Balik doon sa sinabi natin kanina eh
10:34.7
And justice system eh
10:35.9
Kasi hanggat walang
10:39.8
Diba sa vote buying
10:44.5
It will continue to ano eh
10:46.0
To go on na ganoon eh
10:47.8
So it needs talaga
10:49.5
Change from the top up talaga
10:51.6
It should also come from us right
10:55.2
Yung mga political bloggers
10:57.0
Raising issues about it
10:58.0
Kasi tingnan mo yung mga ibang mansa
10:59.3
Pag nagkakaroon sila ng mga reforms
11:01.4
Usually dahil may movement
11:04.4
May mga anti-corruption bloggers
11:07.0
You know what I'm saying
11:07.5
I think yung pinakasikat sa mundo
11:10.2
Pinukimbukin niya yung corruption
11:12.4
You get what I'm saying
11:15.8
It should come from top
11:17.0
But the ones on the top
11:17.9
Should be also pressured
11:18.7
To do their job right
11:20.2
Wala rin silang insentibo
11:21.6
Kasi nakakatakot eh
11:22.9
Nakakatakot maging malinihan
11:24.1
Kasi ang dalawang babang
11:25.0
You were just talking about
11:25.9
The case of Mayor Vico
11:27.9
Mayor Vico is still not the president
11:30.0
And Mayor Vico may be
11:31.1
An exceptional case
11:34.0
Sana hindi exceptional
11:35.2
Sana hindi exceptional
11:38.0
Yun yung worry ko na
11:39.1
Sana hindi one in
11:41.0
Gusto sana natin na
11:45.7
Pero sana 3 out of 10
11:47.1
Medyo malinis na katulad
11:50.4
Just para nang may
11:51.5
May pag-asang bansa natin
11:54.4
Minsan yung mga corruption
11:55.3
Nagtatapon na lang daw
11:56.9
Ng pera yung mga iba doon
11:58.0
Ng mga trahapo eh
11:58.9
Like lechon every night
12:02.9
Nakamatay ang tao
12:03.8
Sa gutom sa ating bansa
12:07.1
Binapoy talaga yung
12:11.1
There'll be always
12:11.8
Leakages here and there
12:12.9
So hindi ako utopian
12:19.8
Talagang next level
12:21.2
At pang-bili business eh
12:23.7
Nag-evolve yung ating politika
12:26.8
Sort of a family business
12:32.3
Wala nang alisan sa pwesto eh
12:34.7
Kumaga na perfect na nila lahat eh
12:36.9
Kung saan kukunin yung boto nila
12:39.6
Kung how much yung
12:42.3
How much yung kailangan
12:44.3
Just to remain in power
12:46.1
Tapos they would stay in power
12:55.5
May level of impunity
12:58.5
Sa mga nakaupo natin
13:01.3
Ng mga leaders na
13:02.3
Family business na
13:06.1
Minsan fourth generation na
13:09.5
Bro having said that
13:10.8
Siguro we can end on this note
13:13.8
Baka mahanap ka ng mga
13:15.1
Kalaban natin dyan
13:18.1
Baka matrack ka nila
13:20.2
Masasabi ba natin na
13:23.2
Demokrasya talaga tayo
13:26.5
Ako ikaw siguro may konti tayong
13:28.3
Freedom of expression
13:29.6
May konting gano'n
13:33.0
Yung mga ganyang bansa
13:34.0
Pero at the same time
13:35.1
Paano mo naman sabi
13:38.3
You tell me your story
13:41.7
Ako I could say yes
13:42.9
Alam mo kung bakit
13:44.0
Kasi nakakapilig naman tayo
13:47.4
Magnanakaw sa atin
13:53.2
We could vote freely naman eh
13:55.6
Kung sino yung gusto nating mayor
13:57.5
Sino yung gusto nating governor
13:58.9
Sino yung sa ating congressman
14:00.7
Kaya nga minsan sinasabi ko diba
14:02.1
Kunyari may kalaban ito
14:04.5
Matagal nang nakaupo
14:05.5
O yan para iba naman yung ano
14:06.7
Iba naman yung kumikita
14:08.9
Kasi masyado na sila malaki kumita
14:10.5
Iba naman nakikita
14:11.4
Para to spread the wealth naman
14:19.0
Malalim talaga eh
14:21.2
Sinasabi kong diretsyo
14:23.6
I'm not going to name names
14:25.2
Hindi ako magpapangalan ng ano
14:31.6
Dun sa justice system nga natin
14:35.9
Merong level of impunity itong mga nakaupo
14:39.7
I can't even name
14:41.1
Kahit alam ko si ganito
14:42.1
Kurakot hindi ko masabi
14:43.3
Kahit alam ko si ano diba
14:48.8
Napakalayo pa natin
14:50.3
Of the mistake ako
14:52.1
We need to support leaders
14:53.9
Hindi pa nakakain ng sistema
14:58.2
Meron pa rin level of
15:01.4
Pwede mo pa ilabas
15:02.8
Parang yung ulo nila
15:03.8
Parang nandito sila sa sistema
15:06.1
Pero pwede mo pa sila ilabas
15:12.9
Efficient corruption
15:16.1
Mababaan man lang
15:16.8
Sa level ng gano'n
15:20.2
Yung pinaka nakakainis bro
15:22.1
Yung maganda na nga yung kalsada
15:24.7
Every before elections
15:26.2
Sisirahin pa nila
15:31.2
Yung mga gano'n bro
15:35.1
Totoo ba itong nababasa ko?
15:37.2
Before the time of
15:41.3
Merong corruption naman
15:46.1
Ganitong sa project
15:49.4
Yung 20 years na yun
15:58.3
Hindi na tayo nakabalik
16:01.2
Konting patong-patong lang
16:03.8
Elaborate schemes
16:05.2
Kung paano yung maman
16:08.7
Pupunta into justice
16:13.0
Was that the point bro?
16:15.6
Federalized corruption
16:17.0
Democratic corruption
16:21.6
Yung term na ginamit
16:24.1
Guns, guns, and gold
16:25.3
Yun yung nagdetermine
16:26.7
That's the environment
16:28.2
Within which Marcos
16:31.0
Yung sabi ng mga dilawan
16:34.9
And then Marcos came in
16:35.8
Actually marami na tayong problema
16:38.3
Biglang nagkaroon ng
16:41.6
O i-centralize natin
16:44.0
O wag mo na kaya magano
16:45.1
Tapos yung mga hindi simunot
16:47.8
Yung mga ambisyoso
16:50.0
Or nilagay sa preso
16:53.1
Corruption actually
16:58.1
Yung level na yan
16:59.4
But it was more dispersed
17:02.0
Yun ang nangyari sa Indonesia
17:03.2
Meron silang dictator
17:09.4
Hindi baby Marcos
17:10.4
Is pang lumalabas
17:11.6
Potentially dumadami
17:12.9
Ang mga baby Dutertes
17:14.3
Around the country
17:16.0
Yun ang pwede mangyari
17:20.0
Let's just hope that
17:22.9
In the right direction
17:24.2
At least in a certain sense
17:26.0
Things have improved
17:26.9
But at the same time
17:29.8
To some of the concerns
17:31.4
Thank you very much
17:36.9
Thank you very much sir
17:38.4
Sa kalagayan ng traffic today
17:42.1
And talk to you soon bro