Vince Rapisura 2748: Chismis o Constructive? Ang Sikreto sa Epektibong Feedback!
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Feedback formula. So how to give the effective feedback in a collectivist culture. At syempre, pinaghandaan niya ni Alex. Go Alex!
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Okay, thanks Vins. As a final note dun sa ating pinag-usapan kanina yung 299, I think it's a really good opportunity na pag-usapan kasi lalo na sa ating mga Pilipino, yung money talks, isa yun sa mga taboos, sa mga relationship, isa yun sa mga bagay na hirap na hirap yung mga tao na pag-usapan.
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So kung ngayon, sa tingin ko, perfect opportunity yan para sa kanila na linawin kagad nila.
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Kasi the issues will only grow bigger. So ayun, that's what I think.
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So today, pag-usapan natin yung feedback. Kasi isa yun sa mga bagay na medyo na-awkward yung mga tao, di ba?
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Pag sinabing feedback, oops, medyo two sides. Nahihirapan minsan magbigay. Yun yung pag-usapan natin today.
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At yung iba naman, pag sinabing feedback, automatically feeling nila, oops, negative comment about me, my performance.
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So bakit ganon? So paano natin kailangan i-approach ang feedback, no? From the point of view of the giver.
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Okay. So let's see there.
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So quickly, dun po sa hindi nakakilala sa akin, ako ay isang communication coach. I'm based here in Italy.
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I'm married. We have an eight-year-old. Mag-9 na pala si Maya this coming March.
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Ang background ko po ay originally in fashion. Tapos I pivoted into education and communication.
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And kilala ko si Vince from RALSE Volunteering Advocacy for the last 13 years na yata. So ayan. Okay.
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So kung iisipin natin, Vince, feedback. Tanggalin muna natin lahat ng emotions, ng preconceived ideas.
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Ano ba yung ibig sabihin ng feedback?
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Totoo lang, ganito lang siya eh. It's this simple, no? Parang it really is just information about reactions to either a product, okay?
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A person's performance, yun yung pag-usapan natin today. And everything else. And used as a basis for improvement.
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I think ito yung pinaka-importanting part sa definition ng feedback, okay? Used as a basis for improvement.
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So kung iisipin natin,
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lahat naman tayo nagbibigay ng feedback, diba?
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Vince, kailan yung last time na nagbigay ka ng feedback? O baka yung sa Facebook?
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Yan yung biligay mo?
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Actually, madalas kami magbigay ng feedback, mga performance evaluation sa mga staff, no?
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Pero kami, actually, ako, sa totoo lang, I went into therapy for this.
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Doon ko na-realize na, ah, ito pala yung personality ko.
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Nagma-matter sa akin yung recognition.
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At ang ano niya ay, so, para to get into me, hindi ako parang, kung uunahin mo na, kritik-kritik-kritik agad.
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Wala akong masakit.
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Sabi, imotivate ka na.
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Wala akong sinawa.
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At I think, ginagawa ko, ngayon sa selfie, ginagawa.
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Magbibigay ka muna ng ano yung mga naggustuhan mo.
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Kasi, syempre, meron ka pa rin naggustuhan, diba?
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Actually, that's true.
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And we'll look at that mamaya, no?
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Parang, the easiest thing na naalala ko dyan, yung tinatawag na hamburger approach.
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Yun yung, meaning, yung positive muna, and then yung area of improvement, and then you end it na positive note.
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Para, at least, alam mo yun, yung huling feeling ng tao is positive.
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So, that's one approach.
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So, sa totoo lang, lahat naman tayo nagbibigay ng feedback.
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Pag kumakain tayo sa restaurant, hindi mo nagustuhan yung pagkain, feedback, diba?
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And usually, sa ayaw natin at sa gusto, mas mahilig tayo magbigay ng negative feedback.
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Yung positive, punti lang yung mga tao, diba?
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Isipin mo, yung service, usually, I know, hindi ako natuwa, ano ba, balikan ko yan, negative, two stars, one star review.
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Negative feedback.
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Actually, alam mo, masingit ko lang ha.
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Yung si Jonas Gaffood, isang friend ko yan, siya yung franchise holder ng Miss Universe Philippines ngayon.
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At naalala ko, isa sa mga sinabi niya sa akin na paano niya i-train ang kanyang mga girls is,
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pag nakita mo ang isang tao, iisip ka kaagad ng isa o dalawang maganda dyan sa taong yan.
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At isisingit mo sa conversation.
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It could be as simple as, I like your shirt.
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Pero dapat genuinely coming from ano ha, na gusto mo talaga.
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So bago ka pa mag-criticize, criticize, ang una mong titignan, ano yung carry?
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Mas carry naman yung perspective na yun, diba?
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Oo, no, I like that.
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Kasi sa totoo lang, hindi masyado maraming tao ang nagko-compliment ha.
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Parang, alam mo yun, iisipin mo, parang talaga ba gusto ko, usually, naiisip mo,
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oy, gusto ko yung style niya, pero hindi mo sasabihin, diba?
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So that's a very good, that's a very good discipline.
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Iisipin mo, yung i-train mo yung sarili mo na i-compliment.
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So, in the professional setting, sino ba usually yung nagbibigay ng feedback?
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Well, ito, managers, team members, depende sa kultura eh ng company.
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Pag may peer-to-peer review, then team members.
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And then, if you're a service provider, then your customer will also give you feedback.
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Bakit siya importante?
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Kasi sa totoo lang, based on the definition of a feedback,
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it's really the basis for improvement, no?
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And data shows that employees really improve their performance after feedback is given to them.
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Pero kailangan, syempre, depende sa kung paano binigay yung feedback.
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Different types of feedback.
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Yung una, yung pag-uusapan natin today, Vince, is constructive,
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or meansan, yung tinatawag na negative feedback.
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Upward is, I don't know kung ilan nyo nagpa-practice nito,
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may mga companies where the bosses, the managers ask for feedback
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galing sa mga direct reports nila.
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Appreciation and recognition, ito yung sinasabi mo, Vince.
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Sa totoo lang, importante ito para sa ating lahat, okay?
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Some more than others.
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Pero minsan, when somebody tells you, you know what, you did a really good job,
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you know, in a specific project, or even yung right away,
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ano yun eh, malaking bagay yun.
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And minsan, iniisip ng mga tao, only the staff need that.
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Sa totoo lang, hindi.
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Even, you know, even the managers, even the owners, even founders.
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Kailangan natin lahat ng ganyan, yung appreciation.
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Coaching is, of course, when you're inside a coaching relationship,
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or pag may coaching na ginagamit yung managers within the organization,
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that's also feedback.
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And of course, real-time feedback.
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Yung ganyan, as an end user, we normally give feedback.
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So either ganyan.
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And usually nga, pag nag-feedback tayo,
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pag hindi tayo masaya dun sa experience.
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So, constructive feedback.
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Incident, parang ironically, kahit pag-iisipin natin,
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usually, yung sa mga managers or people who have to give feedback,
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parang they feel awkward about this whole approach.
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Pero sa totoo lang, and this is a study conducted by Harvard Business Review,
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actually, negative or constructive feedback is a lot, is very much appreciated.
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Yan yung hinahanap ng mga tao.
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Yan ang gusto nilang marinig.
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Kasi yan yung areas of improvement eh.
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Hindi ibig sabihin yan lang yung gusto nilang marinig.
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Kasi like you said, kung puro negative, that's demotivating.
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Parang wala ka ng tamang ginawa, diba?
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And here's another interesting data, Vince.
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The older you are,
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the more feedback you want.
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Yung iba kasi natatakot din na magbigay ng feedback, Alex,
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dahil nga, baka sabihin sip-sip ako, ganyan, diba?
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So, yan yung ano.
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So, may mga ganyang ano rin, issues.
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Pero I thought it was interesting to highlight this.
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Kasi parang, oh nga, siguro it takes a level of maturity to say,
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Sige, tell me what I need to work on.
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Um, siguro pag mas bata, medyo mas kailangan mo yung,
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medyo mas kailangan soft yung approach, diba?
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And you need more positive reinforcement.
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Tapos, tsaka ka palang magiging ready for the constructive feedback.
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So, ayan, especially in cultures, collectivist cultures, no?
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Kagaya nga ng Pilipinas, na napaka-indirect ng form of communication natin.
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Um, kailangan paligoy-ligoy.
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Minsan, feedback can be associated with, you know, some sort, a level of embarrassment.
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Minsan, confusing.
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Kasi nga, nakakapaligoy-ligoy.
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Nalilito ka na parang hindi mo na alam kung ano yung talagang point ng feedback.
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And in that case, it becomes frustrating, diba?
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I think isa din na magandang gawin, kapag ikaw nagbigay ng feedback,
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hindi lang yung one way na,
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sabi mo, tapos na.
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I think, kailangan din na makinig ka, diba?
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Kasi, you also have to listen.
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Hindi po pwedeng ikaw lang yung salita ng salita, eh, in terms of feedback giving.
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Sa tuno lang, Vince, dapat kasi yung feedback,
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hindi yan tinitreat na parang, okay, seramunan kita, diba?
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Dapat bibigyan mo ng pagkakataon na sumagot yung tao.
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Kasi, kung feeling niya, hindi tama yung observation mo,
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or kung gusto niyang magpaliwanag,
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that person should feel safe enough to say so, no?
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Hindi naman yung sabihin, diba?
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Pero, ganun yun, eh.
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Hindi siya one way na, okay, makinig ka, sabihin ko sa'yo kung anong problema, diba?
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So, constructive feedback.
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Ano ba itsura niyan?
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So, una-una, syempre, objective, okay, and tactful.
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Well, yung tact, hindi naman natin problema yan, eh.
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Mga Pilipino, we're normally extremely polite.
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Super polite pa nga.
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Minsan, magsusorry pa bago mo, magkakaroon ng feedback na bago.
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Sorry ha, pero I have to.
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Clear and actionable.
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Ito yung importante rin.
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Again, minsan, kakasugarcoat mo ng gusto mong sabihin.
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Hindi na tuloy clear kung ano yung gusto mong sabihin.
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And then, yes, it comes from a place of helpfulness and empathy.
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You know, if you know na,
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what you're about to say is for the person's personal growth,
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well, then, makikita mo yun, eh, sa tono nung sinasabi mo.
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And then, there, yeah, given from a growth point of view,
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genuine and sincere.
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Of course, yung authenticity is super important.
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So, kung yun ang constructive feedback,
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ano naman yung hindi constructive feedback?
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Or, you know, what's destructive feedback?
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Hindi yan paraan para gumante or to offend someone personally.
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And this is what a lot of people fear, no?
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Parang feedback, oh my gosh, yan na yung time na gagantihan ako nito.
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And that shouldn't be the case.
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It's not about blaming the other person.
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Hindi yan pagkahataon para sabihin, ah, kasi if you did this, maganda sana yung resulta ng project.
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It's not an excuse to microphone.
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It's not an excuse to micromanage either.
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Hindi pag nagbigay ng feedback, sabihin mo,
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I can say, you didn't perform well from now on,
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ito, parang babantayan na kita sa bawat ano mo.
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Hindi rin yan yun.
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Actually, ang goal ng ano, lalo na in the workplace, no,
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ang goal ng feedbacking is para dumali ang buhay ng bawat isa,
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hindi para saluhin mo at maging independent sila sa iyo, diba?
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So, dapat ganun palagi, yung parang babalikan mo yun, bakit, ano nga ba yung purpose ng feedback?
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So, if you keep that in mind, I think, you'll be okay.
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So, sa totoo lang, the real challenge with feedback is hindi naman the feedback itself,
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it's how you give it, how you communicate.
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Actually, alam mo yung isang classic dyan na naalala ko, ito naman yung mga high school, ganyan,
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yung mga may body odor.
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Yung parang, no, you know, funny kasi the other day, naisip ko yan na yung,
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minsan, pag kunyari, may kausap ka, diba, yung kaibigan mo,
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yung kaibigan mo, she has something either between her teeth or yung pag yung,
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sa amin naman, pag yung lipstick na nasa ngipin, na parang,
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paano mo sasabihin without putting that person on the spot?
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Kasi parang, that's feedback.
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Pero at the same time,
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off ka, kasi ayaw mo naman siya mapahiya.
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Meron pa yung isang funny experience.
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Ito, last year lang ito.
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So, nagpunta ko sa office,
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ang busy-busy, diba?
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Naglagay ako ng, ano,
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naglagay ako ng sunblock,
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pero may foundation,
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pero hindi ko pa na-spread,
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nalimutan ko na siyang spread.
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Hindi ko na nakita,
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yung ano ko sa salobin ko,
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Tapos, sabi nila,
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sir, akala namin,
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akala nila, okay,
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ay, sir, bagong passion ba yan?
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Bakit ganyan yung mukha?
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Nakakainis, diba?
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Yes, pero you know what?
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that's the perfect example.
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I don't know how to approach
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those situations, no?
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it was an interview
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I'm a huge fan of hers,
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and the interviewer,
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yata sa mukha niya,
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and ang sabi niya,
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and she was being interviewed
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with someone else.
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and this was already live,
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I know you will do this
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if it happened to me.
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I just need to tell you
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that you have a pen mark
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that's the perfect way
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alam ko gagawin nito,
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gusto ko sabihin sa iyo
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parang matanggal mo siya.
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that's the perfect way
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an awkward situation
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ano ba yung checklist
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para makapag-deliver tayo
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ng effective feedback?
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Hindi pwedeng mga
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na walang direksyon.
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timing is very important
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kasi hindi pa pwedeng sabihin,
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if you notice something,
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it doesn't have to be
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immediately after,
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pero hindi naman din pwedeng,
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yung performance mo,
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ang layo na nun eh.
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And which is why,
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give the person time
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to act on that feedback.
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Pero you can't do that
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kung six months down the line
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It has to be linked to
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what's expected of that person,
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It can't be something na parang,
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wala ka talagang masabi,
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ng ibang feedback,
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kahit nasa tito lang,
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hindi naman yung part
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Focus on the task.
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This is super important.
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And that's exactly
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you're not attacking the person.
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focus on strategies,
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pag sinabi mo dun sa tao,
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ito yung areas of improvement,
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you want to give that person
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to see how he or she
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can approach things better.
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Huwag mong sasabihin,
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ito yung gawin mo.
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people are more empowered
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pag binigyan mo sila
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paano nila susolusyonan yun?
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yung isa sa mga ginagawa namin
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kapag nag-feedback giving,
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so magbibigay ka na ng,
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ano yung mga nagustuhan mo,
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areas for improvement.
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ang pag-uusapan nyo dun ay,
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ano yung maitutulong ko sa iyo
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to make this improve?
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ano yung gusto mong tulong
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very, very good practice, Vince.
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they feel supported.
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Hindi yung parang,
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alam mo na gagawin,
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good luck to you, diba?
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see you in the next review.
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that's a really good,
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that's a really good approach.
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so, we're on the checklist.
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And finally, of course,
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it has to be actionable
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pag may bibigay ng feedback,
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you want to be realistic then
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with what the person can do
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given the time frame.
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Don't give them yung feedback na,
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parang they have to take
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10 steps to reach that.
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Kasi, pag gano'n,
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it's demotivating.
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ito yung comfort zone na,
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when you give feedback
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that's actionable
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you're just asking the person
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to step a little bit
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out of their comfort zone.
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pwede nila yung gawin.
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Pero, if you're expecting them
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to do so much more,
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parang sinabi mo na,
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it's not realistic,
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it's not effective at all.
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lalo na sa ating mga Pilipino,
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we really have to make
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the implicit explicit.
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don't assume anything.
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lahat ng kailangan mong sabihin,
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to make sure everything
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is out in the open.
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gusto ko yung sinabi mo,
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ano yung sa tingin mo
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po pwedeng gawin?
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what can I do to help?
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that's a very good way
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Dito yung mga examples,
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you tell them in advance,
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kung meron tayong
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may tough conversation
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or may feedback ako
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what's the best way
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ano yung preferred way mo
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kasi may iba-iba tayong
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communication skills.
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Some people receive
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kung sasabihin mo
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I want to do this
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because I want to make sure
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that I'm not offending you,
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that you know that I have
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your best interest in mind.
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a quote that I chose
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sums up everything
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not a performance review.
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and receiving feedback.
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if we keep in mind
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what the feedback
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helping that person
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the rest of the organization,
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it's not going to be
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It's not going to be
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about how we deliver it.
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if we keep this in mind,
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let's normalize it.
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Huwag yung parang,
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once a year lang,
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kinakabahan ka na
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malapit na yung date na yun
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because it feels like
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because right now,
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that's what a lot of
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They give feedback
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ibigay ako ng training
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natin sa Hong Kong.
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So, marami sa kanila
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mga domestic workers,
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syempre may kasama ko
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at sinabi ko sa kanil,
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tinanong ko sa kanila,
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ano yung best way
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yung kasama namin
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ibibigay ko na feedback
22:19.4
or instruction sa kanya
22:22.5
At alam mo yung sabi
22:24.1
syempre hindi ko na maalala
22:25.7
kung sino yung nagsabi
22:26.6
sa akin sa kanila,
22:27.4
pero ang sabi niya,
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alam mo Sir Vince,
22:31.8
ayaw naman niya talagang
22:33.0
yung siyang magkamali.
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So, kung mayroon siyang
22:38.4
sabihin mo sa kanya agad
22:40.6
para hindi siya magkamali.
22:54.1
since iba-iba talaga tayo
22:55.6
ng communication style
22:57.7
and iba-iba talaga
22:59.9
of communication.
23:05.1
what's going to work
23:08.7
kung mali mo yung premise
23:10.1
na I'm here to help,
23:11.6
we're here to help
23:15.1
mayroon talagang mga tao
23:16.9
they'll still be offended.
23:21.5
you did your part.
23:26.5
ng ating usapan ngayon.
23:28.0
Tungkol sa feedback giving.
23:31.3
at papakita ko sa mga...
23:40.3
So, thank you so much, Vince.
23:42.4
This has been another
23:48.2
for this opportunity.
23:51.0
Para po dun sa mga
23:53.3
or dun sa mga manunood
23:55.9
please connect with me.
24:01.2
and I'm also on YouTube.
24:02.9
So, kung may mga katanungan
24:04.8
about communications
24:06.6
or presentations,
24:09.9
to drop me a line,
24:11.4
send me a message,
24:12.7
and pag-uusapan po
24:16.2
Maraming, maraming salamat,
24:18.5
At mag-uusapan tayo
24:23.4
Naku, Valentines,
24:24.6
pag-ibig na naman
24:25.4
pag-uusapan natin.
24:28.0
Pag-iibig na naman nga.
24:30.5
Baka may kasunod na yung
24:34.2
Ang engagement ring.
24:35.5
Nagpag-asala kaya sila
24:37.1
O baka break na sila.
24:41.9
And see you next month.
24:43.7
See you next month.