RAFFY TULFO VS. PCSO E-LOTTO
00:38.3
Doon sa pagkuha ng mag-ooperate ng Iloto kahit wala pa itong approval from the Office of the President
00:49.6
Na sinabi daw ng OGCC
00:59.5
Yung opinion yun ha, opinion ng OGCC na dapat meron daw siyang
01:03.5
Permiso galing sa Office of the President
01:08.0
Okay, tingnan natin mga kabatas natin
01:10.7
Mga kabatas natin, ito kasing si Rafi Tulfo
01:27.5
Kumuha na naman ng mga resource personals
01:29.5
Alam niyo naman si Rafi Tulfo pag kumukuha ng resource persons
01:33.0
Ito, may kinuha siyang resource person
01:36.5
Hindi ko maintindihan din sa resource person na ito
01:39.2
Sabi niya big lie, ibig sabihin, nagsinungaling itong resource person niya
01:43.9
Resource person ni Rafi Tulfo
01:47.4
Hindi man lang ipatanggal yung shades na yun
01:50.5
Ganyan yung mga resource person na idol eh
01:56.5
So mga kinukuha niyang ganyan eh
01:59.5
That is a big lie
02:01.1
That is a big lie
02:03.1
Meron rin akong kilalang resource person si idol
02:07.8
I will have to correct this because this is a very very big lie
02:14.8
And if she is underwrote your honor, she will be in trouble
02:18.7
Regardless, I see what you're coming from
02:21.7
I understand what you're saying, exactly
02:23.7
Mga kabatas natin, itong si Rafi Tulfo pag naiipit siya
02:27.5
Gagamitin niya yung regard
02:29.5
Ibig sabihin, i-de-deny niya lahat nung sinabi mo
02:33.6
I-de-deny niya yung weight ng lahat nang sinabi nyo
02:41.8
I-de-disregard niya kaya regardless
02:45.7
Diba, napaka-convenient?
02:49.6
Tapos, I know what you're coming from
02:51.1
Naiintindihan kita kahit hindi niya naiintindihan
02:53.5
At makikita nyo dito mga kabatas natin na hindi niya talaga naiintindihan
02:57.1
Okay? Tuloy natin
02:59.5
Again, parehong online game
03:01.8
Regardless kung magkaiba sila
03:05.0
Ito kasi yung online game na naman mga kabatas natin
03:08.7
Well, this is a recap
03:10.2
Parehong online game sabi niya
03:11.8
Although hindi pareho yun
03:13.1
Kasi yung legal opinion ng OGCC dito
03:19.4
Merong particular na game
03:22.5
Na hiningaan ng PCSO
03:29.5
Ang pangalan niya yata nun
03:34.4
Tapos, regardless
03:35.2
That is the same online game
03:38.0
Okay, tuloy natin
03:38.8
Exactly, precisely, definitely, absolutely
03:42.5
Exactly, precisely, definitely
03:45.3
Makikita nyo mga kabatas natin talaga na hindi niya naman alam yung sinasabi niya
03:51.7
Pag ma-de-debunk siya
03:53.1
O kaya mabibisto siya
04:10.3
Ito, tingnan niyo
04:11.5
Sino sasagot sa PCSO?
04:14.7
Meron na pong humingi kayong opinion
04:18.4
Kayo po mismo humingi ng opinion
04:21.2
Tungkol sa pagkakura ng e-lotto
04:23.3
At sabi niya ng OGCC
04:24.4
Opinyon nila na hindi dapat
04:26.9
Tingnan niyo mga kabatas natin
04:30.8
Kumuha daw sila ng opinion
04:33.5
Tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng e-lotto
04:37.0
Let's just lay down the facts
04:39.1
Kung talagang pumilit kayo
04:40.4
You need a permission from
04:43.5
Office of the President
04:44.4
Good afternoon, Mr. Chair
04:48.0
I would like to beg your indulgence
04:50.6
I wasn't able to come here
04:53.0
And I sent a representative
04:54.9
Ito lang sinasabi ko
04:56.3
Galit na talaga siya sa PCSO pa noon
04:58.2
Kasi sabi niya nga daw
04:59.2
Parang mayayabang yung mga taga PCSO
05:02.4
Hindi sila umatend noon
05:04.2
Kaya nagsosorry ngayon
05:07.3
Very capable of answering your questions
05:09.9
Now dun po sa review
05:11.8
That you were referring to
05:13.2
I don't think it is about the test run
05:16.2
Of the web-based application
05:17.8
That was for another
05:21.6
And birthday panalo po
05:25.7
So makikita niyo mga kabatas natin
05:28.3
Itong si Rafi Tulfo
05:33.9
Yung kanyang question
05:37.3
It involves deception also
05:38.9
Kasi sinasabi niya
05:40.5
Na humingi ng opinion
05:46.6
The operation of the Iloto
05:52.3
Mga kabatas natin
05:53.4
Ang hiningaan nila
06:04.2
Si Rafi Tulfo dito
06:08.8
Yung pagkakaintindi niya
06:10.6
Doon sa binasa niyang
06:19.5
Mga kabatas natin
06:21.2
Yung ginagawa niya dito
06:22.6
Para magalit lang siya
06:23.9
Mga kabatas natin
06:28.3
Siyempre yung mga tao naman
06:30.6
Eh sinabihan na nga kayo na
06:32.9
Kailangan nyo ng permiso
06:34.4
Galing sa office of the president
06:35.8
Pat hindi pa rin kayo kumuha
06:37.4
Iisipin ng mga taong
06:42.8
Iisipin ng mga taong
06:46.5
Iisipin ng mga taong
06:58.3
Iintindihan mo ng maayos
07:00.1
Well iba pala yung
07:01.6
Kinuhanan nila ng legal opinion
07:05.8
Na kailangan nilang
07:09.9
Galing sa office of the president
07:11.6
Birthday panalo ito
07:13.4
At hindi ito iloto
07:21.3
Natutong magbangayan
07:24.0
It runs in the group
07:28.3
It runs in the group
07:29.9
Birthday panalo po
07:31.4
That is not in reference to
07:33.8
What we have with
07:37.9
So we have here po
07:40.1
So it's a very specific game
07:42.7
Which is birthday panalo
07:51.8
And we have the summary here
07:53.6
We may furnish you
07:56.5
Or I can read it po
07:58.3
Kung gusto po ninyo
07:59.7
Iba po yung topic
08:02.6
Iba po yung topic
08:05.5
Itong si Rafi Tulpo
08:06.8
Pinagpipilitan niya
08:07.9
Pero iba yung topic
08:09.9
Or I can read it po
08:11.4
Kung gusto po ninyo
08:13.1
Iba po yung topic na yan
08:14.6
Ito siya na different topic
08:22.1
On the web application
08:23.9
The OGCC recognizes
08:26.7
The need to contract
08:28.1
With private entities
08:29.6
For their technical expertise
08:31.5
And the lack of necessary technology
08:33.8
And legal framework
08:35.6
To effectively implement
08:37.4
Online gambling schemes
08:39.9
The OGCC's opinion
08:42.1
May be summarized
08:43.1
Into three categories
08:44.5
Relating to the compliance
08:47.4
To its previous opinions
08:49.0
And areas for improvement
08:51.0
And or compliance
08:52.9
PCSO's compliance
08:58.1
Web-based application
08:59.7
Is within PCSO's mandate
09:01.7
This is according to the OGCC
09:04.3
The PCSO complied
09:06.2
With the promulgation
09:07.3
Of the rules and regulations
09:10.8
As well as the requirement
09:12.5
Of publication and posting
09:14.6
Prior to the effectivity
09:16.5
And implementation
09:17.5
Of the WABP rules
09:21.4
Stringent selection
09:22.6
And evaluation process
09:24.1
In selecting POSC
09:31.5
Provided safeguards
09:32.9
And security protocols
09:34.5
To ensure protection
09:35.8
The areas for improvement
09:39.5
Is the board dissolution
09:40.9
Authorizing Pacific Online
09:43.6
The company's president
09:46.7
To enter and sign agreement
09:49.1
Should be attached to the MOA
09:50.6
So with that letter
09:54.3
You are being authorized
10:02.3
They have requirements
10:12.8
They have requirements
10:15.2
And this is the summary
10:18.4
No, no, no, Mr. Robles
10:28.1
They have requirements
10:31.0
You are being authorized
10:39.0
Kailangan ba nila
10:44.2
Saan mo naman nakuha yung
10:53.4
Ganong klaseng conclusion
10:58.1
Mga kabatas natin
11:02.3
Na galing sa PCSO
11:04.6
Kung ano yung recommendation
11:06.2
Recommendation nung OGCC
11:11.4
In relation doon sa birthday panalo na yun
11:16.2
Ang pagkakaintindi ni Rafi Tulfo
11:18.1
Binibigyan ng authority
11:21.6
Yung PCSO to proceed
11:23.8
Bakit kaya ba ng OGCC
11:27.5
Na magbigay sa PCSO?
11:28.1
Akala ko ba yung office of the president
11:30.6
Ang magbibigay ng go-signal?
11:36.1
Diyan yung makikita mga kabatas natin
11:37.7
Kung gaano mag-isip ang isang tao
11:42.2
Mahina ang comprehension
11:47.9
They have requirements
11:59.1
Hindi nga, Mr. Robles
12:00.6
So, yung binabasa nyo ngayon
12:04.4
Ina-authorize kayo
12:06.3
Wala talagang patutungo
12:14.1
Yung sagutan namin ni Fabry
12:15.6
Na ang layo na yung mga binabanggit ni Fabry
12:17.9
Ganyan yung nangyayari
12:19.0
Hindi na maintindihan nung isa
12:28.1
Does the PCSO need authorization from the OGCC
12:33.3
When they merely ask for legal opinion?
12:41.3
Ina-authorize kayo
12:47.9
Pacific Online System Corporation
12:50.4
Para dun sa Eloto project
12:53.3
Hindi yan Eloto birthday panalo
13:04.7
Ang gaano ulit tayo
13:05.6
Nagsasayang ng oras
13:09.6
Pinatawag yung mga tao yan
13:10.9
In relation to the
13:14.8
Gusto ni Rafi Tulfo
13:18.9
At saka sa opinion ng OGCC
13:21.1
Sige, pinagbigyan
13:23.3
Ikaw yung boss eh
13:24.4
Ikaw yung boss eh
13:26.7
Diniscuss nyo yung opinion ng OGCC
13:28.1
Hindi mo pala naintindihan
13:30.1
Hindi mo pala naintindihan
13:37.8
Usapan na naman ito
13:41.0
This is just a test
13:43.3
Ang hinihingi namin
13:45.3
Kasi wala naman po
13:47.9
To ask the permission
13:50.0
Pinapayagang kayo
13:51.9
Meron po mga requirements
13:53.9
And we complied with it
13:57.4
See a copy of that?
13:57.7
Can we see a copy of that letter?
14:03.7
If I may Mr. Chair
14:09.7
I have it with me
14:11.7
Would you like me to read it?
14:21.7
Na binigay ng OGCC
14:23.7
Dito sa opinion na binigay ng OGCC
14:25.7
Dito sa opinion na binigay ng OGCC
14:44.1
aside from OGCC'sæ„Ÿ sa
14:45.7
an individual review
14:47.4
agreement or arrangement
14:49.0
for the launching of an online
14:52.4
on an experimental based test run
14:55.8
The office of the President's Ap lodge
14:56.8
The office of the President's Ap lodge
14:57.7
So, ibig sabihin yan, Rafi Tulfo, hindi yan, ano, hindi yan, hindi kailangan ng authorization from the OGCC.
15:19.6
Sabi ko sa iyo, eh.
15:25.1
Binanggit niya na, nagkamali sila.
15:27.7
Ang nasa utak kasi ni Rafi Tulfo, birthday panalo.
15:34.8
Ay hindi, sorry. Ang nasa isip ni Rafi Tulfo, iloto.
15:40.4
Pero ang binabasa niyang opinion, birthday panalo.
15:49.2
Mare regardless na naman tayo dito. Mare regardless na naman tayo dito.
15:53.5
Sir Chairman Ifai May, that is referring to a different game.
15:57.7
Birthday panalo po yan.
16:03.4
Yan, yung page 17. Mahina ang dating.
16:10.5
Oh my goodness. Anong nangyayari sa atin? Nagsasayang lang tayo ng oras.
16:21.0
We're talking about online dito. Walang sinabi dito birthday.
16:25.8
We're talking about online.
16:28.4
Walang sinabi dito birthday panalo. Sige, sige, sige. Palusot tayo.
16:32.9
We're talking about online dito.
16:34.4
Let's go. Let's go.
16:35.2
Walang sinabi dito birthday panalo.
16:36.6
It says here, launching of new games with a game proponent as an agent on an experimental test line basis
16:41.8
and procurement of several online betting systems or platforms.
16:47.1
Never na minention dito ang sinasabi ninyong bingo panalo.
16:56.2
Ito po yung aming sa...
16:57.7
Alam mo yun, parang...
17:05.0
Ano bang gagawin ko sa taong ito?
17:10.8
Hindi yung makaintindi.
17:12.5
Pati yung birthday panalo, bingo panalo.
17:16.1
Yung ibang opinion, binabalikta doon sa kabila.
17:27.7
Siya pa yung galit.
17:29.6
Galit-galitan siya.
17:35.8
Siya pa yung galit.
17:39.9
Mali na nga, ipipilit pa.
17:44.8
Web-based application betting platform which is specific with Pacific online systems
17:50.3
dated 21 December 2023.
17:53.5
Ito yung sinasabi ng...
17:56.8
Specific kasi yan, Rafi Tulfo.
17:58.8
Binasa nyo yan, di ba?
18:00.8
Kasi yan ang gusto mong maging topic.
18:02.8
Parang hindi nyo naman naiintindihan.
18:06.8
It doesn't matter.
18:14.8
Na meron doon nakalagay.
18:20.8
Yung sinasabi ng 70, it's on page 17.
18:24.8
It doesn't matter.
18:26.0
It doesn't matter.
18:26.8
It doesn't matter.
18:29.8
Nakita kasi nyo sa page 17 ito.
18:33.8
Sabi nung isang taga PCSO.
18:36.8
Narinig ni Rafi Tulfo kasi nga nakatutok ng konti doon sa mic.
18:41.8
It does not matter na ngayon.
18:44.8
Isipin nyo ganito.
18:46.8
Ganito ka makipag-argumento.
18:48.8
Gagawa ka ng panimula mo.
18:52.8
Gagawa ka ng premise mo.
18:54.8
Hindi kayo sumunod doon sa opinion.
18:59.8
Ngayon malalaman mo na doon sa opinion.
19:04.8
Binasa niya kanina.
19:06.8
Parang binibigyan kayo ng authority.
19:12.8
Meron kaming ano.
19:13.8
Doon sa iloto yun.
19:14.8
Kaya lang hindi sila nagkakaintindihan.
19:17.8
Kasi nga mga kabatas natin ang pinipilit na opinion nitong si Rafi Tulfo ay sa birthday.
19:27.8
Pero si Rafi Tulfo yung iloto at saka sa birthday.
19:32.8
Yung birthday panalo na pagbabaliktad niya.
19:35.8
Interchangeable sa kanya yun.
19:37.8
So mga kabatas natin hindi sila magkaintindihan.
19:40.8
Ngayon nag-quote siya.
19:44.8
Doon sa isang dokumento.
19:51.8
Sinabi rin doon na.
19:53.8
Kailangan ng permiso galing sa office of the president.
19:57.8
Sabi niya ganyan.
19:58.8
Sinabi ito ngayon na.
20:06.8
Birthday panalo yan.
20:07.8
Sabi ni Rafi Tulfo.
20:08.8
Walang nakalagay dito na birthday panalo.
20:11.8
Nakita na may nakalagay na birthday panalo.
20:13.8
Anong sabi ni Rafi Tulfo ngayon?
20:18.8
21 December 2023.
20:21.8
Yung sinasabi ng 70.
20:26.8
It doesn't matter.
20:29.8
It does not matter na.
20:32.8
Nung umpisa sabi niya.
20:33.8
Walang nakalagay dito na birthday panalo.
20:35.8
May nakalagay na ano.
20:39.8
May nakalagay na birthday panalo.
20:41.8
It does not matter na ngayon.
20:49.8
Sabi ko sa inyo eh.
20:54.8
Sinasabi ng OGCC.
21:01.8
Any contract agreement.
21:05.8
Regardless kung yan.
21:06.8
Nahuli na siya eh.
21:07.8
Nahuli na siya mga kabatas natin eh.
21:12.8
Walang sinasabi dito na birthday panalo.
21:14.8
Pero nakalagay doon.
21:19.8
Tignan natin kung makakalusot siya dito.
21:21.8
Kasi iniba niya na yung kanyang laban mga kabatas natin.
21:24.8
Birthday panalo o iloto.
21:28.8
Kasi hindi mo ma-distinguish eh.
21:30.8
Binagpapalit palit mo yung opinion eh.
21:35.8
Kaya ngayon regardless na lang.
21:37.8
Para may salba mo yung sarili mo.
21:41.8
Any agreement or any contract or agreement.
21:45.8
Or arrangement of PCSO.
21:47.8
With a game proponent.
21:49.8
For the launching of an online game.
21:52.8
So yung birthday panalo online yun.
21:55.8
Yung iloto online yun.
21:59.8
Kailangan may permiso from the OP.
22:03.8
Galit na galit no.
22:06.8
Hindi niya alam yung sinasabi niya eh.
22:16.8
Kahit na ibang gamers nasa.
22:28.8
The fact na sinasabi ng OGCC ulitin ko for the end time.
22:32.8
Ayaw nga pagsalitain talaga eh.
22:37.8
Ulitin mo for the end.
22:39.8
Forward na lang natin.
22:40.8
With a game proponent.
22:45.8
Yung birthday panalo online pareho.
22:46.8
Pag papareho dapat may permiso sa office of the president.
22:47.8
I respect your opinion Mr. Chairman.
22:49.8
I respect your opinion na lang.
22:51.8
Does your opinion matter here?
22:52.8
Ngayon nalaman pa natin lalo na hindi mo naintindihan yung mga bagay-bagay.
22:54.8
Nirespect naman yung ano.
22:55.8
Nirespect naman yung opinion.
22:56.8
In specific case.
23:47.6
Ngayon regardless na
23:56.5
I see what you're coming from
23:58.0
I see what you're coming from
24:01.7
Hindi mo may ilulusot yan idol
24:03.4
Hindi mo may ilulusot
24:05.2
Is that what you're saying?
24:13.3
Iparimind sa inyo lahat dito
24:18.7
Nais kong iparimind sa inyo
24:21.1
Intindihin mo yung mga binabasa mo
24:24.8
Sa iyo especially Mr. Robles
24:27.8
Sa iyo especially Mr. Robles
24:33.3
Sabi mo ibang laro
24:36.8
Hiningan yung opinion
24:38.6
Ang hiningan yung opinion
24:39.8
Ay tungkol doon sa
24:45.8
Eh pero may much later opinion
24:48.5
Ay lako ayoko sa iyo
24:52.4
Parehang online game
24:53.7
Regardless kung magkaiba sila
24:55.4
Hindi nyo talaga makuha
24:56.0
Nang hiningan yung
25:00.6
Nang hiningan yung
25:02.5
Parehang online game
25:03.9
Regardless kung magkaiba sila
25:05.8
Nang hiningan yung
25:14.4
Sunog ka na idol eh
25:20.5
Nang hiningan ng opinion
25:21.6
So may dalawang opinion
25:23.2
Yung opinion na isa
25:25.7
Yung isang opinion
25:31.9
Ina-apply mo doon
25:33.5
Eh merong opinion
25:38.1
Binasa niya rin kanina
25:39.3
At nag-comply sila
25:40.5
Doon sa mga requirements
25:43.2
Sinabi niya kanina
25:44.8
Ngayon namumroblema ka ngayon
25:48.7
Kasi hindi mo ma-distinguish
25:50.4
Kung alin sa alin
25:51.9
At ang gusto mo lang gamitin
25:54.7
Sa birthday panalo
25:56.2
Eh bakit mo gagamitin yun
25:58.3
Eh merong separate opinion
26:01.4
Siya na mismo nagsabi
26:06.9
Sinunog niya sarili niya eh
26:11.1
Parehang online game
26:11.8
Regardless kung magkaiba sila
26:14.3
Nang hininga niyo ng
26:17.3
Humingi sila ng opinion
26:22.3
At saka sa birthday panalo
26:25.0
I-apply mo yung opinion
26:30.1
Yung mga queries nyo
26:31.8
Ilulusot pa talaga eh
26:34.8
Meron din akong kilalang ganyan
26:38.3
Yung mga ilulusot pa talaga
26:40.7
Yung mga nagbabalik
26:41.8
Ba nga yan maneuver
26:42.7
But it's a different opinion
26:50.3
Nakukutal ka na nga eh
26:52.5
Should have the permission
26:55.9
Of the office of the president
26:59.6
That you should have
27:01.3
Secured permission
27:03.6
No but it's a different opinion though
27:05.7
Doon sa birthday panalo
27:08.5
I'd like to ask the opinion
27:11.8
Of Mr. Junie Cua here
27:12.9
The chairman of the PCSO
27:23.9
Ano masasabi nyo?
27:27.3
Tama naman po yung binasa ninyo kanina
27:31.9
Tama yung binasa nyo
27:34.3
Hindi nyo lang naintindihan
27:39.1
Humingi ng permiso
27:41.7
Sa office of the president
27:47.3
So you agree with me?
27:49.5
Doon po sa nabasa ko
27:52.3
You agree with him
27:53.8
Doon sa binasa niya
27:55.3
O syempre kasi doon yun sa
27:58.7
Sir Cua being the chairperson
28:01.2
Nakita ko naman pong
28:06.1
Provisional charter
28:11.4
Ang pagkakaalam ko
28:16.7
Pati yung chairman ninyo sa PCSO
28:27.0
Sobrang sunog ka na kasi
28:29.3
Hindi siya umagri
28:36.0
Umagri siya na nakasulat
28:39.9
Umagri siya na nakasulat
28:41.4
Iba yung pag-agri niya
28:46.3
Doon sa pagbasa mo
28:48.1
Nung nakasulat dyan
28:50.9
Yung pag-agri niya
28:52.4
Sa interpretasyon mo dyan
28:59.6
Sa interpretasyon mo
29:09.6
Hindi yan po yung binasa ko
29:11.4
Lang po talaga yun
29:16.8
Iniinterpret mo yan
29:21.4
Ayaw ka niya lang
29:25.3
Kasi baka i-contempt mo
29:28.2
Pang kindergarten
29:31.1
Pang kindergarten
29:37.3
Pang kindergarten yun
29:55.7
If he really reads
30:01.1
Yung April Opinion
30:03.2
Yung birthday panalo
30:11.7
Pang kindergarten
30:13.8
Alam nyo kasi mga kabatos natin
30:16.0
Parang sinasabihan niya rin dito
30:17.8
Pang kindergarten
30:19.7
Yan hindi pa maintindihan
30:21.0
Ng GM Robles na yan
30:24.8
Kailang may permiso
30:31.8
Kumuha kayo ng permiso
30:34.8
Sa Office of the President
30:37.7
Sa proyektong ito
30:42.0
Why was it violated?
30:55.9
We have to test this
30:57.6
Before having it approved
31:01.0
Kung hindi na mapag
31:03.6
Para hindi mapahiya si Idol
31:07.4
Itutuloy natin dyan
31:16.8
Siya yung laging panalo
31:23.3
Ng wrong information
31:24.2
You're disseminating
31:25.0
A wrong information
31:27.1
Galit po ako dyan
