00:55.8
Ngayon, meron parang napanood ko kay IAM.
00:59.5
IAM Sianuin. Panoorin niyo na lang. Parang may linalabas daw na balita na binabayaran daw ng 1 billion.
01:08.0
Of course, I don't know if this is true or not. I think it's not true.
01:12.1
Ako na lang magsasabi sa inyo.
01:15.1
Binabayaran daw ng 1 billion itong si Rafi Tulfo para huwag na daw gisahin itong si JM Robles o itong PCSO as a whole.
01:26.8
Saan naman sila kukuha ng 1 billion IAM Sianuin?
01:29.5
Yun. Siguro yun yung magandang katanungan dun.
01:35.1
Sa PCSO nila kukunin.
01:42.5
Anyway, I don't think there's truth to that.
01:48.6
Pero let's see. Thursday daw eh. Malalaman daw sa Thursday.
01:51.8
Malalaman daw sa Thursday kung nagbago daw yung pakikitungo ni Rafi Tulfo kay JM Robles.
01:59.5
I don't think that's true.
02:02.2
Okay, tuloy natin.
02:04.8
The PCSO is advised that it has sufficient authority as in a better position to evaluate and approve its technical guidelines on betting platforms
02:16.2
considering that this deals with the minimum technical specifications required for betting platforms of PCSO game
02:24.6
like hardware systems, architecture requirements, interface requirements,
02:29.5
and software specifications.
02:31.8
Finding that these are matters that will be better evaluated by PCSO as the implementing agency for its lottery games,
02:42.3
Ito sabi niya, niya, niya, TVC, milyonaryo pa ala yan.
02:45.7
Ayun yung milyonaryo nga na sinasabi nila.
02:48.4
The first to the PCSO's expertise on the approval of the same.
02:53.1
Ito po rin po regarding the betting platform po which e-Lotto is a betting platform.
02:59.2
Ito po rin po regarding the betting platform po which e-Lotto is a betting platform.
03:00.0
So ang ibig nyo sabihin...
03:01.0
Ayan, yan din yung opinion na nakuha nila.
03:08.1
And with that letter that you just read, and what date is that?
03:12.6
So pinapayagang kayo ng Executive Secretary na to go ahead at kukontrahin itong opinion ng OGCC.
03:26.2
Hindi niya kong kinukontra kasi.
03:28.6
Hindi talagang maintindihan ni Rafi Tulfo.
03:31.9
At saka opinion lang yan.
03:33.6
Mga kabatas natin.
03:35.0
Ako lagi ako nagbibigay ng legal opinion.
03:39.8
Ngayon, yung legal opinion na binibigay ko, it's not binding to those people.
03:44.5
They can go against it.
03:47.7
Pwede silang kumuha ng second opinion.
03:50.7
Pwede nilang ipatupad yung sarili nilang opinion.
03:54.3
Rafi Tulfo, ganon ang opinion.
04:01.4
Pero, regardless,
04:05.5
magkaiba pa rin yan eh.
04:06.6
Hindi mo kasi naiintindihan na magkaiba yan.
04:14.3
yan tinutukoy mo,
04:17.5
Kasi very clear to me,
04:18.8
merong opinion ng OGCC.
04:20.2
Very clear to you.
04:27.4
Well, obviously, you don't understand it.
04:30.1
Ngayon, nang dalabas ng opinion,
04:31.9
ang Executive Secretary na sabi na,
04:34.0
upon your discretion,
04:35.0
para i-simplify ko na lang,
04:37.1
na pwede kayong mag-decide
04:38.8
na mag-enter into...
04:41.6
So, ngayon, naglalaban yung opinion
04:43.4
tsaka yung Executive Secretary.
04:45.5
Yung Executive Secretary, mga kabatas natin,
04:47.7
nasa Office of the President, yun.
04:57.4
...a project such as online gaming
05:01.9
na kumukondos-open yun ng OGCC.
05:06.3
So, ibig sabihin,
05:07.8
yung Executive Secretary pumaparing na sa inyo
05:10.3
at pinapayagan na kayo na i-bypass itong
05:16.5
Akala ko ba, Rafi Tulfo, ang issue natin,
05:20.8
kailangan nilang humingi ng permiso
05:23.1
galing sa Office of the President.
05:26.5
Yung Executive Secretary,
05:27.1
sa Office of the President, yun, di ba?
05:32.6
Ngayon, pinapayagan sila.
05:35.1
O di, kung ganun, parang hindi nagka-kontra.
05:43.5
Di ba? Parang hindi nagka-kontra.
05:47.7
Sa opinion ng OGCC.
05:50.5
I think, Mr. Chairman, we're referring to two different opinions.
05:56.3
Two different opinions.
05:58.5
Actually, three different opinions.
06:02.1
Yung opinion sa birthday panalo,
06:05.5
yung opinion sa iloto,
06:07.5
tapos yung opinion ni Rafi Tulfo.
06:14.8
So, as far as we're concerned,
06:16.9
hindi po namin na we're not going against the opinion of the OGCC.
06:21.1
O, di ba? Sinabi ko rin.
06:23.2
Kasi nga, meron nga eh.
06:24.6
Di ibig sabihin, hindi sila,
06:26.3
so, against sa opinion.
06:27.7
Kasi nga, ang nangyari,
06:29.7
green hunt ng executive secretary eh.
06:34.4
Ikaw na rin, Rafi Tulfo, ang nagsabi eh.
06:37.2
Ikaw na rin, ang nagsabi eh.
06:39.0
Na binigyan sila ng ano eh.
06:43.1
Di ba? Ang sabi ng OGCC,
06:44.6
kailangan niyong humingi ng permiso.
06:46.9
O, binigyan sila ng permiso.
06:48.9
So, it's not against the OGCC's opinion.
06:53.5
The opinion of OGCC.
06:56.3
Tignan niyo, tignan niyo.
06:59.9
It's very simple.
07:01.1
It's very simple.
07:02.7
Pero ano sinabi mo kanina?
07:04.1
Na kumukondo sa opinion ng OGCC.
07:06.0
Kasi very clear to me.
07:07.3
Merong opinion ng OGCC.
07:08.6
Ngayon, nang dalabas na opinion,
07:10.3
ang executive secretary na sabi na,
07:12.3
upon your discretion,
07:13.3
para i-simplify ko na lang,
07:15.4
na pwede kayong mag-decide
07:17.1
na mag-enter into a project such as online gaming.
07:24.7
Na kumukondo sa opinion ng OGCC.
07:28.3
Kasi nga, di ba sabi nila,
07:29.3
humingi kayo ng permiso sa office of the president.
07:31.3
Taga saan ba yung executive secretary?
07:33.3
Taga office of the president.
07:38.3
So, walang kontradiksyon.
07:42.3
Sa opinion ng OGCC.
07:44.3
I think, Mr. Chairman,
07:46.3
we're referring to two different opinions.
07:48.3
So, as far as we're concerned,
07:51.3
hindi po namin na,
07:52.3
we're not going against the opinion of the OGCC.
07:56.3
The opinion of OGCC is very simple.
07:58.3
Pinapalawak lang po natin.
08:00.3
We're talking of online here, sir.
08:03.3
Huwag na natin ibahin pa.
08:05.3
Sa Tagalog yun ba?
08:07.3
Di ba sabi ng opinion ng OGCC,
08:09.3
humingi kami ng permiso doon.
08:12.3
binigyan kami ng permiso ng executive secretary.
08:15.3
O yung executive secretary,
08:17.3
galing sa office of the president yun.
08:19.3
It's the same animal.
08:21.3
Yung birthday panalo
08:25.3
online din yung, sir.
08:28.3
Aside from the fact na magkaiba ni...
08:31.3
magkaiba yung opinion na pinag-uusapan pa dito,
08:34.3
ang daming problema.
08:35.3
Ang daming problema dito sa sinasabi ni Rafi Tulfo.
08:38.3
Kaya tatlong opinion ang pinag-uusapan dito.
08:40.3
Yung pangatlong opinion yung opinion ni Rafi Tulfo.
08:43.3
Doon tayo nagkakaroon ng problema.
08:45.3
Kasi ang sinasabi niyo po,
08:47.3
may binabasa kayong sulat na wala po akong kopya niyan,
08:50.3
na parang sinasabi ng executive secretary,
08:53.3
if I read it right,
08:55.3
kung tama yung pagkabasa ko,
08:57.3
na pinapayagan kayo up to your discretion
08:59.3
na gumawa ng anumang klaseng project
09:03.3
na pwedeng kasama na dyan yung online betting,
09:07.3
kayo nang bahala gumawa ng mga parang sa technicalities and all,
09:11.3
pinapayagan na kayo ng executive secretary.
09:14.3
And I don't know kung nabasa ba ng executive secretary
09:17.3
itong opinion ng GOGCC.
09:20.3
Sana pinadarhan niyo si executive secretary
09:22.3
sa katahing ng opinion.
09:23.3
Sir, nagbibigay ka ng opinion yan pero may opinion ng OGCC.
09:29.3
Tignan niyo kasi.
09:38.3
Official Gazette of the Republic of the Philippines.
09:42.3
The office of the executive secretary
09:44.3
was formally reestablished by virtue of the executive order
09:48.3
number 292 series of 1987.
09:52.3
The administrative code of 1987
09:54.3
and was given the mandate to directly assist the president
09:57.3
in the management of affairs of the government
10:00.3
as well as to direct the operations of the executive office.
10:09.3
Executive office.
10:10.3
Executive office, office ng president.
10:14.3
Office of the president.
10:22.3
The office of the executive secretary of the Philippines
10:39.3
is the head and highest ranking official
10:42.3
of the office of the president of the Philippines.
10:45.3
Office of the president of the Philippines.
10:48.3
Highest ranking official.
10:50.3
And a member of the cabinet of the Philippines.
10:55.3
The office holder has been nicknamed as the little president.
11:01.3
Kasi nga diba taga office of the president din siya?
11:06.3
Eh diba sinabi ni Rafi Tufo kailangan niyong humingi ng permiso
11:09.3
sa office of the president?
11:17.3
Eh yung executive secretary na yung nagbigay.
11:19.3
Eh galing yun sa office of the president?
11:31.3
It was given the mandate to directly assist the president
11:34.3
in the management of affairs of the government
11:36.3
as well as to direct the operations of the executive office.
11:49.3
And di walang kontradiksyon.
11:54.3
Kasi nakakuha sila ng permission.
11:57.3
Si ikaw rin nagsabi Rafi Tufo.
12:00.3
Sinabi mo na pinayagang kayo ng executive secretary.
12:04.3
Eh yung executive secretary from the office of the president yun.
12:11.3
Eh diba kailangan humingi silang permission
12:13.3
from the office of the president?
12:15.3
Eh sino ang pinakamataas na, na ano,
12:20.3
Anong nabasa natin doon?
12:23.3
Siyempre hindi elected official.
12:24.3
Ang pinakamataas na elected official yung president pa rin.
12:27.3
Yung hindi elected official.
12:28.3
Yung executive secretary.
12:30.3
Siguro baka hindi siguro nabasa ito ng executive secretary.
12:35.3
Kasi kung nabasa ito ni ES then she...
12:40.3
Hindi naman siya katulad mo.
12:44.3
Yung executive secretary natin ngayon,
12:46.3
mga kabatas natin,
12:54.3
So marunong din yun.
12:57.3
May bet nga ako baka mas marunong pa siya doon sa nagbigay na opinion dyan.
13:02.3
Based on experience lang ha.
13:09.3
Based on experience lang.
13:10.3
Kasi siyempre SC justice yan.
13:14.3
Nakita nga natin,
13:15.3
gamit nga natin yung mga CA justices, diba?
13:23.3
SC justice pa kaya?
13:26.3
magre-rely siya sa opinion
13:31.3
Siyempre may opinion din yung executive secretary.
13:34.3
Dating justice kaya yun.
13:45.3
He might not have...
13:47.3
Huwag mo naman i-discredit yung accomplishments ng ating...
13:50.3
accomplishments ng ating executive secretary.
13:57.3
Issued that kind of letter.
13:59.3
Kasi kung ako sa executive secretary
14:01.3
at pinabasa mo sa akin to,
14:03.3
ba't ba ako mag-issue ng sulat ng gano'n?
14:06.3
Eh kasi nga diba nagbibigay siya ng permission?
14:09.3
Ikaw din nagsabi eh.
14:15.3
Oh so parang ganito kasi.
14:20.3
Siguro may papaliwanag ko ng simple ito
14:24.3
in a family setting.
14:32.3
sasabihin ko sa tatay ko,
14:45.3
lalabas ako mamaya.
14:48.3
Birthday nung kaibigan ko.
14:51.3
Sabi nung tatay ko,
14:53.3
paalam ka sa nanay mo.
14:56.3
Ang opinion ng tatay ko,
15:00.3
kailangan kong magpaalam sa nanay ko
15:03.3
bago ako makalabas.
15:11.3
Kasi siyempre ang issue dito,
15:13.3
paano ako makakalabas?
15:14.3
Paano ako makakalabas mamayang gabi?
15:16.3
Eh birthday ng kaibigan ko.
15:18.3
Alam ko yung tatay ko,
15:20.3
mas madali niya akong palabasin eh.
15:22.3
Pero sinabi ng tatay ko,
15:25.3
pwede ka lang lumabas.
15:27.3
Paalam ka sa nanay mo.
15:29.3
Ngayon pumunta ako sa nanay ko.
15:32.3
Birthday nung kaibigan ko.
15:35.3
Pwede ba akong pumunta?
15:38.3
Sabi nung nanay ko,
15:47.3
nag-contra ba yung nanay ko
15:49.3
at saka yung tatay ko?
15:57.3
Nag-contra ba yung nanay ko at saka yung tatay ko?
16:00.3
Well, kung kukunin natin yung analogy ni Rafi Tulfo,
16:06.3
Kasi pang titignan mo, ganito rin yun.
16:13.3
Meron itong games.
16:15.3
Kasi gusto ni Rafi Tulfo games in general.
16:17.3
Meron itong mga online games na ito.
16:19.3
Meron itong mga online games na ito.
16:24.3
humingi sila ng opinion sa OGCC.
16:28.3
ah, bago kayo magpagawa ng ganyan,
16:30.3
humingi kayo ng permiso sa Office of the President.
16:34.3
Ngayon, itong Office of the President,
16:39.3
sinabi ng Office of the President sa PCSO,
16:43.3
Kayo naman yung may discretion dyan.
16:44.3
Kayo yung may expertise.
16:45.3
Kayo yung may bla bla bla.
16:47.3
Ngayon, nag-contrahan ba yung dalawa?
16:53.3
Nag-contrahan ba yung dalawa?
17:04.3
Hindi niya maintindihan.
17:05.3
Nag-contrahan daw.
17:06.3
Kaya sinabi ni Robles,
17:10.3
Hindi ko naman binali yung opinion.
17:12.3
Hey, hindi ko babanggain yung OGCC.
17:16.3
Hindi ko babanggain yung OGCC.
17:33.3
The Office of the Executive Secretary of the Philippines,
17:37.3
formerly the Executive Office,
17:39.3
is the head and highest ranking official
17:42.3
of the Office of the President of the Philippines.
17:48.3
Ngayon, punta tayo sa OGCC.
17:51.3
Office of the Government Corporate...
17:59.3
Government Corporate Council. Yan.
18:07.3
Pag-online that body?
18:29.3
Sabi bro, ganun ba yung telengko?
18:33.3
усakit practices yung orale at pangoon yung kompetityon.
18:35.3
Ito po, yung katulad yung ILO na hindi una sabihin ban rin.
18:36.3
of the Government Corporate Council
18:38.2
o yung Executive Secretary.
18:42.0
Makikita nyo dito, mga kabatas natin,
18:45.5
yung Office of the
18:46.5
Government Corporate Council
18:48.1
ay under the Department
18:57.5
Tapos, sasabihin mo doon siya,
18:59.9
Executive Secretary,
19:02.0
pag nabasa na yung opinion ng
19:07.6
Heck, hindi ko babanggain ng OGCC.
19:11.3
Pero hindi niya naman binangga.
19:13.5
Kasi nga sinabi ng OGCC, doon ka sa
19:15.5
President, kumuha ng permiso.
19:20.3
Under siya sa Department
19:25.9
yung Executive Secretary.
19:27.7
Is the head and highest ranking
19:29.4
official of the Office of the
19:31.4
President of the Philippines.
19:35.2
It is a Corporate Council.
19:44.5
Anong trabaho nila?
19:45.9
To control and supervise the legal department
19:49.4
Government Owned and Controlled
19:54.9
Yung Office of the President pa,
19:57.6
Government Owned and Controlled
20:01.5
Government Owned and Controlled Corporation.
20:04.3
Pero yung Office,
20:05.2
Office of the Executive Secretary.
20:07.3
Government Owned and
20:10.2
and Controlled Corporations
20:13.7
ba yun? Hindi, diba?
20:25.3
the Executive Secretary,
20:27.0
let alone the Executive Secretary.
20:29.5
Kasi pag titignan nyo, no?
20:31.7
Don't put words in my mouth.
20:38.3
Kasi kung nabasa ito ni ES,
20:40.6
then he might not have
20:42.3
issued that kind of letter.
20:44.5
Kasi kung ako sa Executive Secretary
20:46.0
at pinabasa mo sa akin ito,
20:48.3
ba't pa ako mag-issue ng sulat ng gano'n?
20:52.8
Kasi humingi sila ng permiso.
20:55.7
Kasi yun ang sinabi rin
20:57.3
ng Office of the Executive Secretary.
21:00.7
Hindi ko magmanggayin yung OGCC.
21:04.6
Ba't ba ako mag-issue ng sulat ng gano'n?
21:07.3
Sabi ko, heck, hindi ko magmanggayin yung OGCC.
21:10.2
Heck, hindi ko magmanggayin yung OGCC.
21:17.8
Supreme Court Chief Justice.
21:21.3
Tapos Executive Secretary,
21:23.3
the highest ranking official
21:24.8
in the Office of the President.
21:29.5
magbabow down sa opinion
21:32.9
ng Office of the...
21:36.2
Corporate Council.
21:40.8
Heck, hindi ko magmanggayin yan.
21:42.9
Pero hindi niya naman binabangga
21:44.2
kasi ikaw lang naman yung nagkikreate
21:46.0
ng isenaryo na banggaan.
21:49.0
Kasi sigurado ako si ES,
21:51.1
he'll make sure na talagang
21:52.1
nag-confront tayo sa lahat ng mga patakaran,
21:54.8
sa lahat ng mga protocol
21:55.7
sa Departamento na Executive.
21:59.9
Kasi siya yung head nun.
22:01.2
Siya yung pinakamatas na official dun.
22:04.4
Executive Secretary,
22:04.6
Executive Secretary.
22:09.0
nag-iimbento ka ng senaryo sa utak mo.
22:19.3
hindi pa ako kumain
22:20.2
kasi mga bisita kami kalina.
22:24.5
Binagbangga niya lang.
22:25.6
O, siya nga yung nagpapabangga-bangga.
22:34.6
Katuloy natin dyan.
22:36.1
Lipat tayo dun sa kabila,
22:37.3
mga kapatas natin.
22:40.9
Babanggain! Babanggain!
22:42.8
bahala ka sa buhay mo.
22:45.4
Kaya maraming salamat,
22:46.6
mga kapatas natin.
22:49.4
Tulad na lagi sa isa tabi,
22:50.6
matulog po tayo ng may mbing
22:52.4
na natutulog na may mbing
22:53.5
siya yung laging panalo.
