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MARTIN ROMUALDEZ NASA LIKOD NG PEOPLES INITIATIVE | BATO DELA ROSA PRESSCON LIVE
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00:00.0
Parang bago mag-poll, ibig mo rin.
00:02.3
Tapos na raw nila yung charter reform.
00:04.8
Tsaka si Congressman Joey Sanceta kaya nasabi, parang 12% na raw.
00:08.9
Oo, wala problema yan.
00:10.9
They can do that.
00:13.7
Sige lang.
00:15.9
Kasi sa akin sana, umamin sila na sila nasa likuran nito.
00:19.8
Bakit naman di nila aminin kung sila talaga nasa likuran nito?
00:24.3
Ibig sabihin, meron hidden agenda.
00:26.1
Meron ikinakahiya nila yung people-sensitive na yan.
00:30.5
Bakit hindi nila angkinin?
00:32.7
Di ba?
00:33.7
Mga pakalalaki tayo.
00:35.6
Kung kayong nasa likuran yan, sabihin yung totoo.
00:39.4
Do not fool the Filipino people.
00:42.3
Sir, yung nag-a-big statement.
00:43.9
Were you referring to the speaker or to everyone?
00:46.2
To everyone. Kung sino mang nasa likuran.
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Nung chacha. Aminin nyo kung sino kayo.
00:50.9
Senator, kagawa po, si speaker, isya na statement
00:53.8
supporting yung people-sensitive.
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Sabi niya, it's the most democratic way para baguhin ang upos.
01:00.5
Supporting lang. Pero hindi lang sinasabi na sa kanila nang galing yung inisiyatibo.
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By making that statement, di ba?
01:08.0
Supportado nila. Oo.
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Pero hindi pa rin lang inaamin.
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Kasi hindi na sila nang dinan.
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Nasa kanila nang galing yung inisiyatibo na yan.
01:15.9
Sir, if they are supporting yung PI,
01:18.3
ano nang mangyayari dun sa resolution of both houses?
01:21.8
Number six.
01:22.4
Ano nang mangyayari dun?
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Dahil kaya nga,
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papalabasin yung resolution na yan dahil
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para ihinto nila yung PI na yan.
01:30.3
Iyan mo yung usapan, di ba?
01:32.0
Ihinto nyo. Pero
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nakita natin, walang hinto.
01:35.7
Hindi sila...
01:36.2
Sir?
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Sir, sabi nyo, sir.
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Ha?
01:39.2
Oo.
01:40.1
Sir, sabi nyo mga congressman,
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pagdina lang daw po kayo mag-participate.
01:43.1
Ha?
01:44.1
Magdina lang daw po kayo mag-participate.
01:46.7
Mag-participate magkami, walang problema.
01:49.7
Basta huwag nyo kaming saksakin sa likod
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na magpaggawin ninyong
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gagawin ninyong
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amendment yung voting jointly.
01:59.0
Di ba?
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Oh.
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Room move kayo eh.
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Ang una yung pasok, yung
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amendment ninyo is
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kakapunin nyo kaagad na sila, no?
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Gagawin nyo kami yung power list.
02:10.3
That's a very room move.
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That's a very agitating move.
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That's a very...
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That would...
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That move would really...
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would incite...
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ha?
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Bad reactions from the Senators.
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Sir, kung gano'n yung posisyon nyo,
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tapos gano'n yung posisyon nila,
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hindi malayo yung posisyon natin?
02:38.3
I don't know how you call it.
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If it's a crisis or what.
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So, I don't know.
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Sabi ni Sen. Jervin de Chalian,
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parang on his own,
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mag-lead siya sa Valenzuela ng information drive.
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Parang malaman ng tao na
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yung negative effect ni PPR,
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would you do the same in Dabao?
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Well, they've been conducting investigation in Dabao.
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Yung hearing ni Sen. Amy Marcos,
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baka doon namin gagawin sa Dabao.
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Dahil?
03:10.3
Maraming, libon-libong, libon-libong tao doon
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nag-execute ng epidemic na
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sila'y nalukaw, sila'y nabudol.
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Na tiyata, dinadangle sa kanila yung
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AX, yun pala.
03:23.3
Ang firma pala na yun.
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Para na sa PI na pala ang firma yun.
03:28.3
Yung you mentioned yesterday na kung hindi ka naka-aral,
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baka nung panahon na nanay mo at tatay mo kumikmane.
03:34.3
Yes. Yes.
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Kasama na yung nanay at tatay ko na kumbuhay pa sila at
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nung pala way back, nung maliit pa ako.
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Sigurado. Di firma yung nanay at tatay ko.
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Would you offer up 100? Kasi hindi.
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Yes. Kahit na 50 pesos.
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Sa hirap ng buhay.
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Kakanain yan ang peres ko.
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So sir, confident kayo dun sa Senate hearing
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mapapatunayan yung mga sumulan, yung mga bayaran?
04:00.3
Yes. Confident kayo. May mga willing magsalikata na dito?
04:03.3
Ang dami. Hindi na nga namin makarga dito sa
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alam mo, kahit na, alam mo,
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maghihirap tayo na si 130 para dalhin dito sa
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Senado yung libon-libong na nag-execute ang epidemic doon
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sa Dabao. Dadalhin natin dito.
04:16.3
Ay hindi kaya. Wala tayong panggastos dyan. So,
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siguro, I suggested to the chairman,
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si Rector Ayme, baka pwede. Doon na lang sa Dabao.
04:24.3
As also suggested by other members of the Senate.
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Doon na lang kayo sa Dabao mag-hearing.
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Para hindi na mag-gastos ang mga tao papunta dito.
04:32.3
Mayroon man. Nagsalita sa atin privately. Pero,
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yun nga lang, ayaw. Nilang harap-harapan na
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kalabanin yung kanilang boss.
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Otherwise, you will be subject to all the
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all the, ano, subject to all the harassments
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na manggagaling sa liderato dahil nagiging swael ka na
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membro.
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Sir, magsabi lang sa akin, pero ayaw talaga magsalita.
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Ayaw mo salita. We have to respect them.
05:13.3
Sabi ko nga sa inyo the other day, that's survival on their part.
05:18.3
Survival yan on their part.
05:20.3
Sir, tanong pa lang kanina, sir, na ano mangyayari doon sa RHB,
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RPH 6 kung itutuloy yung, kung tinutuloy nila MPI?
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Kaya nga kung itutuloy MPI, parang disinterested na nga yung mga
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membro ng Senado na ipagpatuloy yung, yung joint house resolution,
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joint resolution na yan.
05:43.3
Sir, what ba, bakit patuloy? Do you think parang wala na nagsilve?
05:47.3
Oo nagsilve. Diyan rob, wala tayong, wala, wala, wala, wala, wala, wala
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matinong kausap. Isusulong natin yun with the premise na ihinto rin nila yung
06:03.3
P.I. na ginagawa nila. E ngayon, hindi lang hinihinto, so bakit pa?
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Ano pang gamit nung, kung ano yan, did serious man sila on amending or revising
06:15.3
ng ng sitwasyon, through People's Initiative. So, ano ba?
06:19.3
Sir, the House, si Congressman sa Sena, yun lang, yan ang tanong namin,
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nag-sabi sa inyo na he's already leaving, that you already have the numbers 12 percent
06:26.3
now nationwide. Natatamag ba kayo na baka matuloyan talaga kayo, Sir, na?
06:32.3
Wala na kayo ng boses.
06:34.3
Well, we are worried. Kaya nga, nag-react tayo. We react tayo. Gumagawa tayo ng mga hagbang
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na para hindi tayo madissolve, hindi tayo makapon. Hindi tayo makamarmala.
06:43.3
Hindi tayo maka-straight. They're trying to castrate us.
06:50.1
Sir, nag-iwala kayo sa magkakamundi talaga ng Noel senaryo kung may push ang PI? Walang election ng 2025 and 2020?
06:59.6
I don't know. I don't know. That's one of the possibilities. Pero malayo pang iniisip ko dyan. Nandito ako nakatutok ngayon. So how to stop this PI?
07:13.3
Pero dun sa COCO, sir, diba isa-isa pinag-usapan ng mga senado na may ganong klaseng possibility?
07:20.8
Possibly nga. Possibly nga. One of the possibilities. Sinabi yan dun sa aming joint manifesto. Possibly nga.
07:31.7
Sir, paano nilidescribe nyo yung relasyon ng Senate at ng House?
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Sa ngayon? Ay, nakita naman ninyo.
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Kung ano, kung anong nangyayari ngayon, hindi mo pwede mapapalastikan tayo nito. Totohanan na ito. Because we are really offended by that kind of tactic that they are employing.
07:57.9
So sir, pwede more sa nangyayari? Ano yung pwede more sa nangyayari between the House and the Senate?
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Well, kung walang cooperation.
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Kung walang cooperation between the two houses.
08:13.3
Kung walang papasa na batas. Diba?
08:17.3
Kasi mag-buy camp, no?
08:18.6
Oo, mag-buy camp. Paano yan?
08:20.1
So affected na yung dapat na obligation ng mga senado sa mga tao.
08:26.0
Oo.
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Pero sir, open kayong may pagsiklam na parang hindi siya sumunod ng UNED.
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Second chance?
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Second chance.
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May rewind.
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Depende niya sa liderato ng both houses. Kung gusto lang mag-uusap.
08:43.3
Sir, kailan na bang target kung kailan yung i-file yung petition sa Supreme Court or in-questioning the...
08:51.5
We cannot file the petition before the Supreme Court if the committee has not yet validated the petition ng Papers Initiative.
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So kung wala pa yan, walang subject. Wala tayong subject na pag-uusapan doon dahil hindi pa naman validated.
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Sir, for the mere acceptance...
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Pupwede. Pupwede yun. Isa yun sa mga pwedeng gawin natin.
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But we don't have to discuss that, diba?
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Dahil nga, alam nila kung anong gagawin natin. Kasama yan.
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Kasama yan.
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Kasi sinabi naman yung senator ko at yung ibang mga lawyer sa senado na parang since from the very beginning, mali naman yung process ng PI kasi nagbabayad sila.
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Well, in fact, dapat kayo for solution.
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So doon pa lang, may voice na ang...
09:43.3
Ipatuloy yung PI?
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The mere... yung in-explained kahapon ni Senator Coco, diba?
09:47.7
The mere fact na yung kumilik, yung actions ng kumilik of receiving those signatures is already questionable.
09:57.0
Dahil anong basis ng kumilik? Anong procedure na sinusunod nila?
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Where is... what enabling law na sinusunod lang ngayon?
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Na yung enabling law na yung ratification and... ano yun?
10:13.3
Initiative? Ratification Act? Ano ba yun? RA 6735? Ano yun? Anong title yun?
10:23.8
Basta ratification act na yung sinasabi is may ruling naman ng Supreme Court na hindi covered ang amendment ng konstitusyon doon hanggang...
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Hanggang sa mga local at national laws, hindi covered ang konstitusyon.
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So wala.
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Wala pa rin silang basis sa kanila action.
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Anong... maging action... anong basis ng action ng kumilik?
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Sabihin nila, meron silang IRR.
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Saan naka-anchor ang IRR nila?
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Doon pa rin sa batas na...
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...ni-ruled out ng Supreme Court na hindi covered ang people's initiative.
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Ayaw, hindi covered yung amendment ng konstitusyon.
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So wala pa rin yun. Wala pa rin basihan.
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Yung pag-axib ng kumilik.
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So yung, Sir, yung first job nismo ng Senate, sa Supreme Court nga.
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Dapat, Supreme Court na yun.
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Walang timeline pa, Sir, kung parin lang.
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Kasi ang argument kasi, Sir, is bakit hihintayin nyo ba na mag-validate or magnify yung...
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Another yun. Another. Another, kuha nyo. Another yun. Another yun. Ito, iba na naman ito.
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Marami yun, Sir.
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Marami yun. Marami yung naglabasan na pwede yung gagawin. Pero...
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Marami yun. Marami yung naglabasan na pwede yung gagawin. Pero...
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As I've said, hindi ba ganda ang pag-usapan dito? Baka ang pag-alitan tayo.
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Yung sinabi kahapon ni Senator Coco Pimentel, it does not need a validation from the kumilik.
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Right here, right now, pwede na ang gawin yun.
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Pwede na ang gawin.
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Ministerial duty, Sir.
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Ha?
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Ministerial duty.
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Ministerial duty.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Questioning the ministerial duty of kumilik, of accepting those signatures.
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And then the other one is...
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Doon na, after validation na, ay kikwestiyonal naman yun. Yung mode of acquiring all those signatures.
12:37.3
Sir, baka may appeal na lang kung may speaker, mukhang namang nakikinig lang sa kanya yung mga PI.
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Well, isa lang naman ang pag-iusap namin. I-junk din nyo yung amendment na gusto nyo na voting jointly, then tapos na.
12:53.3
Let's go back to square one, back to the table. Tanggalin lang nyo yung voting jointly. Okay na kami, mag-usap tayo kung anong gusto ninyo mga amendments.
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Pag-uusapan natin.
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Okay.
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Huwag lang nyo kaming i-castrate.
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Huwag lang nyo kaming i-castrate.
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Magiging powerless kami.
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Wala na kaming say.
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Magiging power-based na lang kami dito.
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Oberan na lang nyo kami ng i-oberan
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anytime you want.
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Dahil outnumbered kami palagi.
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So outvoted palagi.
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Sir, pero sabi nyo dito makakita,
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kahit hindi ganyan,
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tuloy-tuloy yung appeal nyo dito
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sa, pero nga,
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sa mga crime-overs,
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at sa homeless men.
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Pero sabi ko,
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leader nila,
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ito'y two-three months.
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Kung pwede nila yung
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big major signatures,
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tuloy yung filing nila ng petition.
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Wala tayong magawa dyan.
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That's their initiative.
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Kung they are dead set on
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finishing all they wanted to finish,
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all they want to finish,
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tapusin nila kung anong gusto nila.
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Basta kami,
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we will exhaust all available means naman
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to counter their move.
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Sa inyo po talagang under,
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sa tingin nyo po under,
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parang strong orders sila,
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kaya nalang talagang dere-dere,
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to fire,
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hindi makakita sa inyo?
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I don't know.
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I don't know.
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Mahirap din.
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Baka magalit rin yung ibang
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kongresman dyan na sabihin na
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hindi mo naku-tutaan dito,
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nasusunod-sunod na lang.
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Magalit yung ibang kongresman,
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diba?
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Basta, suffice it to say that
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the initiative is still there,
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supported by them,
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initiated by them,
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then...
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Sir, mag-i-effort ka rin ba
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tulad ng ibang senador?
14:45.8
May hukin yung pulikulay sa Dabao.
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Ano magmakita mo dito sa signature naman?
14:51.8
Well, matagal lang akong nagpo-post sa aking Facebook.
14:53.8
Marami lang sa Dabao nag-react doon.
14:55.8
Huwag nyo ibinta yung inyong...
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Huwag nyo ibinta yung inyong signature.
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Oo, marami lang akong po-post sa Facebook yan.
15:06.8
Ikaso lang, meron akong sumagot doon,
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Tapos na, Sir! Paano yan?
15:08.8
Tapos na, nabinta ko na!
15:11.8
Oo...
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Sabi niya, late!
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Late!
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Sabi niya, late ka man!
15:16.8
Late ka man nag-appeal, Sir!
15:17.8
Nag-appeal ah!
15:18.8
Nabinta ko na, Sir!
15:20.8
Eh, sabi ko, paano kasi?
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Kaya kami na-late dahil nga,
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well, caught by surprise,
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yung beach-krieg attack nila sa kanilang
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paper's initiative.
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Nakabakasyon kami!
15:32.8
Oo...
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So, Sir, pwede pa ba nilang bawihin yun?
15:35.8
I don't know. Anong...
15:37.8
Anong...
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Anong procedure, ha?
15:40.8
Anong procedure? Pagbawi?
15:42.8
Sinong kausa? Paanong...
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Paanong... Anong gagawin na kumilik?
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About sa pagbawi?
15:47.8
So, kung pwede, gano'n naman ang palawagan n'yo?
15:49.8
Bawihin n'yo?
15:51.8
Ay, hindi na nga ako kailang makiusap eh,
15:54.8
dahil libu-libu na yung
15:56.8
nagsigit ng Kapitabit doon sa Dabao
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na sila'y naloko at gusto lang bawihin.
16:01.8
Ang dami na!
16:03.8
Hmm...
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Okay.
16:06.8
Thank you.
16:08.8
Thank you.
16:09.8
Namat.
16:10.8
Happy birthday!


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