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2 BABAENG UKRAINIAN NA PASTORA INΛBЦS0 UMANO NI QUIBULOY NA SON OF GHAD
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2 BABAENG UKRAINIAN NA PASTORA INΛBЦS0 UMANO NI QUIBULOY NA SON OF GHAD
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O'Coro, Bayaninan Services, Inc., ako po'y nilapitan ng mga ilang indibidwal
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ng mga normal na kwento tungkol sa isa pang organisasyon
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na ginagamit ang reliyon bilang cover para mang abuso ng mga tao.
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Ako po'y nashok na madinig kung gaano kapareho ang mga kwento
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magamat mas malaki lang ito at mas matagal ang organisasyon.
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Mukhang pareho lang ang modus.
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Ginagamit ang reliyon para naninilang ang tao at maghasik ng kasamaan at naabuso.
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Kung paano ginamit ni Sen. Aguila ang bulag na paniniwala
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para linlangin ang mga miyembro ng kanyang ulto,
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ganoon din ginamit at patuloy.
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Ang bulag na paniniwala para abusuhin ang mga miyembro ng Kingdom of Jesus Christ.
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There are many things that I've uncovered in the course of preparing for this hearing.
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May ebidensya tayo ng panggagahasa sa menor de edad,
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ng pisikal na pangaabuso sa mga mismong tagapagsunod nila,
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kagaya ba naman ang paglagay ng sili sa mata,
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at ari, at pagbagok ng ulo sa pader,
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ng sapilitang panggagamit sa mga bata na manlimos sa kalsada.
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Kung mapatunayan sa hukuman na totoo,
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these all constitute charges of child abuse, serious physical injuries,
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and even human trafficking, which warrants life imprisonment.
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Di po nakakagulat na ito mismo,
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pinakaharap ng kaso ni Ginoong Kiboloy sa Estados Unidos.
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Ito daw si Ginoong Kiboloy ay mahilig palibutan ang sarili ng mga magagandang babae.
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Yung mga choir sa likod niya, puro magaganda.
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At itong mga photos na ito ay public photos na galing sa internet at sa media.
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May notas.
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Panorin po tayong dokumentasyon ng mga babaeng taga-Ukraine
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na paulit-ulit na pinagsamantalahan ni Kiboloy
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sa paniniwalang ang pakikipagtalik sa kanya ay pagsasakripiso para sa Diyos Ama.
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Sila'y kasama din sa choir ni Kiboloy.
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Panorin po natin ang mga video na ito.
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Bilang bahagi ng aking opening statement.
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Ang mga babaeng ito ay handang magbigay ng kanilang...
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...testimonyo in person kung hindi lang dahil sa matinding digmaan sa Ukraine ngayon.
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Sila po'y nagbigay ng kanilang consent.
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Videos na ito.
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21 years old.
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It was 2014.
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Where did you stay?
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I stay in a dorm, like a building, a separate building.
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And most of the people there was Ukrainian.
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Tell me how your relationship with Pastor Kiboloy...
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...developed or unfolded.
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At first, our relationship was very good, very warm, very friendly.
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I didn't feel anything like, oh, he's like, like, you know, there's nothing about that.
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And transfer me in one room, I live with the Jack Roy.
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She's pastoral in one of the closest, like she's very close to pastor.
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And I live with her in one room.
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And little by little, some girls like Jack Roy and other girls of pastoral are Filipinos.
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So, they used to fellowship to me like, are you ready to sacrifice everything to God, to the Father, like pastor?
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Of course, I already sacrificed.
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I leave my job.
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I leave my school.
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I leave my friends and my parents.
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I already sacrificed a lot of...
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So, what do you mean?
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I cannot understand.
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Because I already sacrificed and with the life that I choose and I live.
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And I believe that this is God's way for me.
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So, and they were just like, even your body.
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You can sacrifice.
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When he see that there is no Ukrainian girls and I'm alone.
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So, he start more and more to talk to me.
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Are you want to sacrifice?
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Are you want to sacrifice everything?
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Even your body?
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I'm very innocent.
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I really didn't.
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Nobody talk to me like straightly that this is what will happen.
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And I remember that time came and at the job came to me in the night.
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And she said,
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I want you to massage.
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I want you to massage the pastor's feet before he sleeps.
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When at the job called me for night to massage him,
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I didn't think that this is what will happen.
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Even though I was nervous.
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And she saw that I'm crying, but I'm still do what they want me to do.
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I take a bath.
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I put this pajama and I'm crying.
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I'm scared.
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It's night and they put me...
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Because I never stay in the pastor alone in the night, in the dark.
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And I'm like, I'm not going to do it.
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And I'm like, I'm not going to do it.
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And I'm like, I'm not going to do it.
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And I'm like, I'm not going to do it.
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And I was nervous.
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It was big room.
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And before room, there is one little room.
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So at the job, lead me there.
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And she said, go in pastor's room.
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And I just stayed in this little room because I was scary and I was crying.
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And pastor was waiting for me.
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Until he realized that I'm not coming.
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And he by myself went out and pulled me in his room.
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And I was like scary.
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And he said like, massage my feet.
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Here, here, here.
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And then little by little.
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And I was very nervous and it was dark.
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And suddenly he start to move my hands to put on his butt.
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But he said, massage here.
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And I said, oh my God, okay.
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And I massage.
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And after that, little by little, he just turned to me and he removed my clothes.
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And I even can't...
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Because I was very shocked.
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I was like, I cannot explain.
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Because I was nervous.
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This is what happened.
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He just removed my clothes.
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And have sex with me.
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Women below the age of 18 years old, were they also being used sexually?
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I didn't know about this for how many years till before I left Philippines.
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I heard from other like...
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She's very close to pastor.
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She grew up with him.
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She's a senior there.
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And she's pastoral.
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And I heard that, oh, you're crying.
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Because I always complain about this pastor's ministry.
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And she said, oh, you're crying.
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And you're a pastoralist.
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At least you're mature.
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But I become a pastoralist at 12 years old.
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This is time when I was like shocked.
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The next day when I heard this, that I become a pastoralist at 12 years old,
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I started to fight with pastor and ask, why?
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Is it normal?
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Well, Sofia, there's nothing normal about it.
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This is child abuse.
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Ngayon naman po, pakinggan natin si Elias Nina.
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I was about 20.
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I think it's like 2012 that I came.
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My mom and my siblings, they started to attend first congregation here in Ukraine.
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So they were trying me to, that I will also join them.
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They've been like trying to get me in also to the kingdom.
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What year did you go to?
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I think it's 2012.
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And then can you tell me how you became a pastoral?
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I became pastoral maybe like five or six months.
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I remember there was like one day, we had the preparation for,
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there's ICD, International Children's Day.
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So I joined the dances.
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And I remember after, it's like late at night,
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somebody called me.
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And they said that, Pastor Kiboloy, like, he's waiting for you.
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He's calling.
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So I didn't like think anything.
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And then when Pastor Kiboloy called me,
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like he was asking me if I will become a pastoral.
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And he said that you must sacrifice everything, including your body.
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But I was like very innocent to that.
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I did not understand.
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I thought it just sacrificed your body that you will not be married like that.
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There was time that he was calling me at night again.
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And then he was trying to explain to me what is the meaning of that.
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Like you have to like sacrifice your body.
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You have to have a sex with him.
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Not right away that I was okay with that.
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It's like maybe four months more.
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I don't know.
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What month did it start when he started?
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Maybe it's like summer 2013, something like that.
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How long were you a pastoral?
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And how long were you being used by Pastor Kiboloy?
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If it's from 2013, and then I left 2021.
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So it's like eight years, I think.
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And during that whole period, you were...
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Being sexually used by Kiboloy?
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Yes.
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You also met the other pastorals, the other Ukrainian pastorals?
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Yes.
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All of us.
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You don't even think that others are like that also.
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Because they're saying like don't tell anybody.
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It's a very like sacred ministry.
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Not everybody can like be like that.
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It's not all the same.
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It's like...
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One, like once or two times.
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And the other one, they have to be like every week, like night.
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It's called night duty.
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Like us, we've been there every week.
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We have to go.
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There's like schedule for every girl that you have to be there.
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Every time I go there, I was like praying that he will be just sleeping and not touching me.
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One time at night, he came to me, to my room.
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To have a sex.
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And I was crying.
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I said that I don't want.
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And he was...
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He got mad at me.
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He said like, you're going to hell because of that.
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It's not true that they're not lying.
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Our witness sent a lot of pictures that they have with Kiboloy.
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At the back of the smiles, there are abuses.
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They say, but there's no boyfriend.
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They say, everything wrong.
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At haluhit, they go crazy, and say, I'm not going to sleep.
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We don't like that.
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We finally know...
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We still don't understand the value of our science.
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We are now socioeconomists.
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We can't dating, we can only tell information.
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And sometimes so many ways, it doesn't make sense.