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00:00.0
Okay, eto na, eto na, uminit ng discussion. Kanina traffic pinag-usapan, uminit na ulo natin yung mga nagka-call play dyan. Eto na, this is it. Sir Ronald, I think it goes back again dun sa debate natin. I think you were implying that the Tamba Los Los thing is reaching a point of potential no return or it has actually crossed it.
00:21.8
But can we also argue that yung mga recent na nangyari may show that actually things are moving in the other direction in a sense that ganito ang thesis ko ngayon.
00:31.5
Actually, hypothesis ko is mukhang nag-overreach yung isa dyan. Nag-overreach, galit ng lahat ng Senado sa kanya. So the Senate just came out with this huge statement. Buong Senado. I think sama pa dyan si Robin Nudetol.
00:44.0
Ay nag-oppose dito sa PI na ito ng People's Initiative. Mga DDS lumabas dito, laban dun from Alvarez to Polong. And then of course, andyan rin yung mga Christian Monsot and you know all the quote-unquote yellow people behind the 90s.
00:59.3
So nagsama-sama lahat na against dito sa PI move na ito. And even though nagsabi ng Speaker of the House na ay wala, hindi, okay na yan. We know that behind the scenes there's still efforts.
01:10.1
Si Joyce Alceda pa may sinabi na around June or July.
01:14.0
May effort to push for a referendum or something like that. Na-confidence sila. They may get the 12%.
01:18.2
Don't you think nag-overreach yung isang side? And that the Duterte side perhaps is leveraging yung backlash to its own advantage. And hence, that will be our next episode.
01:30.2
We see again this statement, this hedging by BBM on the ICC issue. But before we go to the ICC, pag-usapan natin itong sinasabi ni Alvarez na Tamba Los Los Initiative.
01:39.8
Ibang klase talaga yung mga taga Mindanao pag nag-away-away talaga.
01:44.0
TI. TI na daw. Anong take mo sa TI?
01:48.0
Well, una, may iba-ibang kwanto eh. May iba-ibang angles. Alimawa, itong Anti-People's Initiative, mayroong effort dyan yung mga Duterte for their own reasons.
02:02.5
Sila ngayon ang defender ng 1987 Constitution na sinubukan din nilang baguhin during their watch. Pero naunawaan naman natin.
02:11.1
For six years they tried.
02:12.7
For six years they tried.
02:13.4
It's about politics. Kaya gusto ko rin ipaalala na itong mga to ay naisbaguhin yung Constitution during their watch.
02:21.6
Kaya tanggalin naman, i-expose naman yung hypocrisy.
02:25.1
Ikalawa, ito yung mga talagang consistent na. Yung mga pink, yellow, etc. Middle class, youth, na ang tingin nila ay hindi ganun binabago yung Constitution overnight.
02:40.4
At hindi mo, you don't throw the baby with the buttercup.
02:43.4
At hindi mo, you don't throw the baby with the hot water.
02:44.3
Hindi mo tatanggalin yung mga positibo kasama ng mga negatibo.
02:49.0
While recognizing that the Constitution should be a live document na kinakilang i-review at baguhin based dun sa iyong mga kasalukuyang mga problema at saka mga future aspirations,
03:05.4
ay kinakilang ihanda information, education.
03:11.1
Ikalawa, political at saka economic reform.
03:13.4
So it doesn't happen overnight.
03:15.8
So yun yung mga dalawang.
03:17.5
At ikatlo, yung Senado, which is protecting its own survival, its own institution.
03:24.8
Existential risk na ito.
03:26.2
May mga overlap yan.
03:28.8
Especially the opposition in the Senate, the administration, at yung mga pauron ng mga doterte.
03:35.4
So may mga overlap yan.
03:36.7
Pero tignan lang natin yung spectrum.
03:39.0
They're not the same.
03:40.3
They're not the same kahit nagpo-oppose sila pare-pare.
03:43.4
May hypocrites, may survivalists, tapos mayroon talagang mga idealists.
03:49.6
And opportunists.
03:50.9
But it's the cumulative effect, right?
03:53.7
Pag nung nagsama silang lahat, yung ingay, I think was strong enough to make BBM at least try to wash off his hands.
04:01.4
And now, I won't be surprised if BBM behind the scenes tells his cousin,
04:05.8
Baka gusto mong medyo mag-relax yan kasi this is getting medyo umiinit na masyado.
04:11.3
I mean, don't you think baka nag-overreach?
04:15.9
Paro, dalawa naman yung nakalatag na form para baguhin yung konstitusyon.
04:21.6
Last year, yung CON-CON.
04:23.4
Ngayon, yung People's Initiative, tsaka yung CON-AS.
04:27.8
Ang problema, yung People's Initiative, nakadikit doon yung CON-AS according to their terms.
04:33.9
Which is the Senate and the Congress voting as one.
04:39.1
Doon nag-react yung Senado.
04:40.9
Doon nag-react yung Senado.
04:42.2
Yung statement na nilabas ng Senado ay primarily galit nila sa People's Initiative.
04:52.0
Ang tingin nila ay hindi lamang babaguhin yung economic provisions,
04:58.3
hindi lamang possibly bibigyan ng lifting of term limits yung mga supporters nito.
05:06.7
Kung hindi, baka tanggalin yung Senado.
05:10.6
Gawing unicameral.
05:11.8
Yung bagong political system na pwedeng gawin pag nabuksan yung Pandora's box dahil merong complimentary powers.
05:19.6
So doon sila galit na galit.
05:20.9
Parang iniisahan sila.
05:22.7
Parang ini-style bulok sila.
05:26.2
Ikaw naman, Richard, kabisado mo style bulok.
05:28.3
Ginagawa mo rin yan pa minsan-minsan.
05:31.4
Naglagan naman, comrade.
05:33.4
Comrade, ito, ito, ito.
05:35.6
Doon nag-galit ng Senado.
05:37.4
Kung babasahin mo yung statement.
05:41.8
Kung kakausapin ko yung iba sa kanila, eh galit talaga sila.
05:46.3
Galit talaga sila.
05:47.4
Parang nabasto sila.
05:48.9
Burn bridges na yan.
05:51.3
Lalo yung mga wala pang three years.
05:54.2
Yung iba kasi paritarn na rin eh.
05:56.0
Pero yung, I think, Cynthia, Grace po, paalis na sila, di ba?
05:59.0
Pero yung iba, fresh po sila dyan, no?
06:01.6
Pero nakakaasar lang na yung mga ibang nandun sa resolution na yan,
06:05.9
ay sobrang ipokrito, no?
06:09.6
Na parang sila yung defender ng...
06:13.8
Hindi ko naman nilalahat.
06:15.0
Pero yung mga iba na nakapirma doon, weakens the resolution.
06:19.3
Weakens the position.
06:23.3
Dahil hipokrit sila, eh.
06:26.1
Pumirma sila sa isang resolution na basically ina-advocate na
06:30.0
huwag sirain yung checks and balance,
06:32.5
huwag sirain yung democratic ethos, etc., etc.
06:38.0
Eh, yung mga yal, eh,
06:40.3
nung panahon nila, sila yung gustong makapagalit.
06:41.8
Mag-revolutionary government.
06:44.0
Sila yung balak overnight mag-shift ang federal system,
06:47.7
federating warlordism,
06:50.5
Buto nalang hindi natuloy.
06:52.7
Pero, huwag natin kalibutan itong mga elements na ito.
06:57.3
Kahit, halimbawa,
06:59.2
sama-sama silang nakapirma sa resolution.
07:01.3
Buto pa nga si Robin Hood pa dito, eh.
07:04.2
Hindi siya pumirma.
07:05.1
Nag-abstain ang nangyari kasi.
07:06.2
Hindi siya pumirma.
07:07.0
Nag-abstain siya, no?
07:08.5
Eh, baka, mas kwanyon.
07:10.2
Mas hindi hipokrit.
07:11.8
Eh, yung iba, mga hipokrit, mga hipokrit to.
07:14.4
And I will tell that to their faces, no?
07:17.0
Sige, pangalanan na natin.
07:19.8
Sir Ronald, ito, last point on this episode
07:22.0
before we go dun sa mga favorite topics natin,
07:24.5
SMNI at saka ICC, diba?
07:26.8
Kasi may mga movements din on that front
07:30.3
Balikan natin ito.
07:31.9
Do you think there's a chance na
07:33.3
maybe Martin Romaldes is over, you know,
07:36.1
he's having an overstretch here
07:37.9
that he may have, you know,
07:40.2
gone over the line a little bit?
07:41.8
Or may have misread the situation
07:44.0
and there could be a correction
07:47.2
Don't you think na may konting element na gano'n
07:49.1
na baka naman nag-offer siya?
07:50.8
Could be all of that, Bob.
07:52.2
Dahil hindi naman bago yung kanilang klase
07:54.1
mga conflicts saka contradiction.
07:57.1
Eh, lahat naman ng charter chains na bigo eh.
08:01.4
At isa sa mga crucial elements dyan
08:03.2
ay yung relasyon ng Senado, no?
08:06.6
Doon sa Kongreso.
08:07.7
Whether voting separately or voting together.
08:12.3
Kaya pwede ka namang natuto doon sa nakaraan eh.
08:15.3
Pwede ka namang nagkaroon ng lessons eh.
08:18.1
All of these initiatives fail, no?
08:20.9
Sa palahon lang naman ni Pinoy walang tsatsa eh.
08:24.1
Noong palahon niya eh.
08:25.3
Yun yung walang tsatsa.
08:27.0
All governments meron eh.
08:28.7
So, pwede mo, pwede kang matuto.
08:31.4
Dapat nag-recalibrate ka
08:33.1
based doon sa gano'ng klase yung mga lessons.
08:37.1
Pero at this point, hindi pa naman tapos eh.
08:41.8
Uphill ngayon yung people's initiative.
08:43.8
Kahit nakabawa sa kanila itong
08:46.0
paborito mong TV ad, yung
08:52.3
Ang magandang lesson niya eh.
08:53.6
How not to make an ad.
08:56.1
Nandun na siya sa Hall of Fame.
08:58.3
How not to make an ad, no?
09:00.5
Why agitate everybody,
09:02.4
even your possible allies, no?
09:04.4
Why create enemies, no?
09:07.9
Pero hindi naman tayo nagugulat
09:09.5
dahil marami naman talagang idiots.
09:11.8
Dito sa ating political system, no?
09:14.3
So, ang sinasabi ko lang ay
09:16.3
pwede pa siyang mag-recalibrate.
09:20.1
Pero, alam mo, Richard,
09:21.3
ang crucial dito is the president.
09:24.4
Yun yung crucial dito.
09:25.9
Who's the first cousin of this?
09:27.2
Ano ba yung kanyang didiinan?
09:29.3
Palo sa statement naman niya,
09:31.4
kumpara last year, no?
09:33.5
Last year, talagang...
09:34.5
talagang nilaglag niya yung...
09:38.6
Ngayon, sinasabi niya, no?
09:41.8
kailangan ng charter change.
09:44.2
sa change of the political system.
09:47.3
Sa statement niya,
09:50.7
Hindi niya sinabi kailan.
09:52.3
Hindi niya sinabi kailan.
09:53.7
Pero, for the first time,
09:57.4
Sinuportahan niya ang charter change.
09:59.6
Basically, focus on economic provisions.
10:03.3
Pero, sinabi rin niya
10:07.2
sa pagbabago ng political system.
10:08.8
So, he's creating a permission structure,
10:11.8
technical term around it.
10:13.5
And that's very important.
10:14.3
Last point, before we go to
10:15.7
speaking of, you know,
10:17.7
interesting stuff.
10:20.4
do you think na Martin Romualdo
10:23.6
for the foreseeable future,
10:24.9
meaning, we can anticipate him
10:26.3
to still be the speaker
10:27.2
after the elections next year.
10:28.9
Kasi, diba, meron tayong kasaysayan
10:30.2
na papalit-palit ng speaker.
10:31.5
May kupa against Alvarez noon,
10:37.3
ang gulo nung speaker position,
10:40.0
The Venetian for life,
10:45.4
do you think we're
10:46.4
going back to that?
10:47.3
That kind of like,
10:48.1
Romualdo can still be like
10:49.3
the The Venetians of our era?
10:51.2
Kind of a long-term...
10:54.6
medyo secure siya
10:55.4
hanggang the midterms.
10:59.8
nag-a-aspire lang naman ngayon
11:07.7
napalitan siya speaker, no?
11:10.0
Lopsided, et cetera.
11:11.8
wala akong nakikita
11:14.3
na nag-a-aspire to be speaker
11:17.6
kung si GMA lang yan,
11:19.0
kaya yan ni speaker Romualdo.
11:22.6
the power of the incumbent,
11:24.2
the huge resources,
11:33.3
yung sa tanong mo,
11:35.7
hanggang the midterms,
11:39.6
so kaya nga argument ko here is,
11:41.4
Dutertes can recalibrate,
11:45.3
welcome to politics.
11:46.3
It's a very dynamic field.
11:48.2
may strategic learning din
11:51.8
kung makikita mo,
11:53.3
parang style bulok din
11:54.8
itong mga Duterte.
11:56.8
tatakbo siya sa midterms.
12:01.6
yung mga recalibration
12:02.5
na pinag-uusapan natin, no?
12:04.2
Merong recalibration
12:06.9
merong recalibration
12:09.8
parang pinag-uusapan natin
12:15.0
correct technical term
12:18.4
Salamat, Sir Ronald.
12:21.5
That sets the tone perfectly
12:22.7
for favorite topic
12:23.6
and favorite channel nyo.
12:25.8
biglang nahuli ko
12:26.5
may nanonood ng SMNI dito.
12:29.3
paligan natin ito.
12:30.8
Pag-usapan natin ito.
12:31.9
Salamat, Sir Ronald Llamas.
12:33.3
Thank you very much.