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REAL "PINK" OPPOSITION IS COMING BACK!??
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00:00.0
Ito na, ito na yung penultimate episode natin on the latest part, the gulan. Sabi nung isa, Paul Voronic. Sabi nung isa, Pentanil Boy. Ayan, okay. Ito, ito. So, one theory is that, in a way, yung gulo na to, like this protracted but, let's say, calibre, or protracted but contained crisis between Digong and BBM, in a way, is also good for BBM.
00:29.4
Because the argument would be, wala tayo tumatawa, wala tayo gumagawa ng meme, wala tayo nanonood ng mga ganitong drama.
00:35.5
Actually, you know, tuloy-tuloy yung push for cha-cha, tuloy-tuloy yung PI, tuloy-tuloy yung People's Initiative, tuloy-tuloy yung Maharlika Investment Fund, tuloy-tuloy yung, essentially, the Macoyismo Junior Project.
00:49.5
Can we talk about that possibility also? And connect natin ito dun sa, you know, nasa ng opposition, di ba?
00:57.5
What is your take on that?
00:58.7
Big R, I doubt it, eh. I doubt it na madadivert yung attention.
01:02.8
Halimbawa, kanina, may Senate hearing ng cha-cha, di ba?
01:06.9
Nung rally sa Luneta, most of the Senators weren't there, especially the leaders of the Senate.
01:14.4
Wala yung Senate President, wala yung Pro Tem, wala yung Majority Floor Leader, no?
01:20.4
Ang nandun ng mga Senador, yung mga artista na may problema, no?
01:25.8
Nandun si Jingoy, no?
01:28.7
Meron pang bribery case, no?
01:31.1
Nandun si Bong Rebilla, na nakasama ni Jingoy Makulong, no?
01:35.0
Nandun si Lito Lapid, no?
01:37.6
Kaya, pero all the rest, no show.
01:41.4
Ibig sabihin, yung cha-cha is still in the center, kahit dito sa dynamics na ito, no?
01:47.3
At yung parin yung laman ng mga news cycle.
01:51.2
Kaya, I doubt kung madadivert yung attention away from that, no?
01:55.5
Ang problema ay, parang...
01:58.7
Hindi malinaw yung position ng Presidente.
02:01.8
Siya ba ay for PI or CONAS?
02:05.0
Siya ba ay supportado yung House o yung Senate, no?
02:08.9
Ang magiging problema kung hindi siya ganun ka-decisive, baka mawala sa kanya pareho, diba?
02:15.0
Baka pareho sumama ang loob.
02:17.3
Kaya, at a certain point, sasabihin niya,
02:19.8
Ito position ko, no?
02:21.4
Yung hindi sasama rito, yari kayo.
02:24.1
Dapat niyang gawin yun.
02:25.7
Kung hindi, makakatulong niyang maangarap.
02:28.7
Mag-unravel.
02:29.8
Not because of the attack of the Dutertes, no?
02:32.9
Kung hindi mismo yung kanilang internal dynamics, no?
02:37.2
Sa loob ng kanyang official family.
02:40.2
Yun yung delikado.
02:42.7
Right.
02:43.2
So, what we're saying here is that above the fray strategy,
02:47.6
not only it has limitations, it could backfire at some point.
02:50.7
Now, you're gonna alienate both sides.
02:52.0
Parang sa strategy yan, diba?
02:53.2
Kung you don't take US side, you don't take China side,
02:56.1
nag-gumagamit ka sa kanya ng dalawa.
02:58.0
At some point, they're both...
02:58.7
They're both gonna dump you, right?
03:00.4
I mean, this is what I said about ASEAN.
03:02.5
At some point, ASEAN has to make a decision.
03:04.6
Not making a choice is a choice in itself.
03:06.9
And sometimes, kung gawin niyo ng paratihan,
03:09.3
wala nang...
03:09.9
Hindi na kayo reliable to anyone,
03:11.4
itatapon kayo, diba?
03:12.8
So, what you're saying is the same thing also in domestic politics.
03:15.7
If masyadong pa-safe,
03:17.4
masyadong above the fray,
03:18.4
habang gulo nangyari,
03:19.5
first, it shows that you're not a decisive president.
03:22.2
Second, it shows that, you know,
03:24.1
you may not be a reliable partner to any side.
03:26.3
And at some point, you know,
03:27.7
he might lose the script.
03:28.7
Diba? The thing could go...
03:29.9
Totally unintended consequences also.
03:32.4
So, you're doubtful na there will be any kind of distraction
03:36.6
because nakatutok talaga yung BDS camp
03:39.1
dito sa mga PI issue, cha-cha issue.
03:43.3
And I'm sure, anything goes wrong,
03:45.2
corruption scandal or supposed corruption scandal,
03:47.8
gagamitin na ito.
03:49.1
But, again, we are ending again
03:51.5
where we always tend to end in our conversation,
03:54.3
which is, saan yung totoong oposisyon?
03:57.1
Like, ang dalawang...
03:58.4
Well, hindi naman ganun kalaki,
03:59.5
but whatever.
04:00.4
Rally nangyari na,
04:01.4
at least in terms of media mileage,
04:03.5
ang dami na akong media mileage ni Digong.
04:05.3
But, you would imagine na
04:06.6
if there was also another parallel rally
04:09.4
whereby, essentially, kind of like Trotsky, diba?
04:12.5
Neither nor, neither peace nor war.
04:14.3
Neither Duterte nor Marcos, right?
04:16.6
Whereby, essentially, tatto yung position mo, no?
04:18.7
Ayaw namin sa cha-cha.
04:20.2
Gusto namin ng ICC, right?
04:21.9
At ayaw namin sa destabilizers, right?
04:23.9
So, in a way, you find a perfect sweet spot
04:26.2
between the Duterte camp
04:27.7
and the Marcos camp.
04:29.0
You encourage the Marcos camp
04:30.1
to push ahead with ICC
04:31.2
because you want accountability.
04:33.2
At the same time,
04:34.0
against ka sa destabilization
04:35.2
against kay Marcos
04:36.0
because you know that's not good for the country,
04:37.8
especially sa gitna ng kaguluhan sa bansa.
04:41.4
But, in a way, you're also siding anyway.
04:43.1
But, not siding,
04:43.8
but on the same side as the DTS,
04:45.6
by going against people's initiative
04:47.5
or constitutional change,
04:48.5
which could be weaponized
04:50.4
or could actually open up a Pandora's box.
04:53.1
Don't you think that should be the way forward?
04:54.8
I'm a clear stance into the opposition.
04:56.7
This is a...
04:57.7
Totong opposition.
04:58.6
We're neither for this camp
04:59.6
nor for this camp.
05:01.2
But, at the end of the day,
05:02.0
Marcos is the president
05:02.8
so we don't want destabilization in the country.
05:05.0
But, we will oppose him
05:06.0
on specific issues
05:07.2
in the interest of preserving our democracy.
05:09.5
And, we want him to move forward
05:11.0
the ICC issue.
05:11.8
Parang, yan ang...
05:12.6
Para sa akin, yan ang common sense
05:14.1
na dapat maging position ng opposition.
05:16.6
And, leave the analysis
05:18.1
and life FB to me
05:20.1
and Ronald and Christian Esqueda,
05:21.5
whatever, okay?
05:22.5
You guys have to go there
05:23.9
and organize the rallies
05:24.9
and all of that.
05:25.7
Bring people out.
05:27.0
And, nakita natin,
05:27.7
with the pink movement,
05:29.5
hindi nila kailangan mag-ship in
05:31.0
or bus in ng tao.
05:32.6
You know, may natural,
05:34.2
middle class,
05:35.6
mobilized base talaga.
05:38.2
Kung nasustain sana,
05:40.1
kaya nga dito,
05:40.8
tama pa rin siguro sinasabi natin
05:42.4
na sana nasustain sana
05:43.7
yung namobilize nila na base
05:45.6
noong pano ng 2020.
05:50.3
Nawala ka, Big R.
05:52.3
Inintayin na kita mag-respond.
05:54.1
May tatlong main forces
05:55.7
na nag-i-engage sa chacha.
05:57.7
Kaya, mahirap na ma-divert
06:00.6
yung sa issue ng chacha
06:02.3
dahil ito ay malalaking mga forces.
06:04.2
Una, yung nag-rally sa Dabao.
06:06.6
Diba?
06:07.2
Ayun lang nga,
06:07.9
dapat it was supposed to be
06:09.2
a anti-PI rally,
06:11.6
naging pro-PI rally.
06:13.8
No?
06:14.4
Yung PI ni Digong.
06:16.2
Yung kanyang puro PI.
06:18.1
PI, mga addict PI.
06:20.8
No?
06:21.5
Puro PI, no?
06:22.7
Pero, yan.
06:23.4
Darin nga siya,
06:24.3
ba't yung PI,
06:25.1
gusto niya yung PI lang niya?
06:26.3
Hindi pwede yung PI.
06:27.7
Dapat yung PI lang niya.
06:29.2
Karen talaga.
06:29.8
Isang poll yan, no?
06:30.4
Isang poll yan.
06:31.1
Tapos, may nag-organize
06:33.3
na hindi ganun kabilis, no?
06:35.4
Masyado ka kasing impatient, eh.
06:37.2
May nag-organize
06:38.4
na hindi ganun kabilis, no?
06:40.4
Nag-organize siya two weeks ago
06:42.1
sa Green Hills, no?
06:44.6
Nagkaroon sila nung assembly, no?
06:48.1
Nandun si Lenny,
06:49.8
nandun yung mga actors
06:51.9
at saka actresses
06:53.2
ng Pinklawan.
06:54.8
So, parang launching yan, no?
06:57.7
Pagre-revive nung Pinkwave, no?
06:60.0
Nung Pinkwave.
07:00.7
Of course, small scale pa yan.
07:03.2
Pero, nandun yung mga possible
07:04.5
na tumakbo sa midterms
07:06.6
from that group.
07:07.6
Nandun si Bam,
07:09.4
nandun si Kiko,
07:10.8
nandun si Chell Jokno, no?
07:12.9
And all the other cast of characters.
07:14.9
Nandun sila lahat, no?
07:16.0
Kaya, tapos,
07:17.3
iba-iba yung magiging effort niyan.
07:19.8
Yung iba ay mga mass movement, rally.
07:22.6
Yung iba ay filing ng cases
07:25.7
sa Comelec
07:26.7
at saka sa Supreme Court.
07:27.7
Yung iba ay nagpre-prepare
07:31.4
using as a jumping board
07:34.7
itong anti-Chacha campaign nila
07:36.5
papunta sa midterm.
07:38.4
So, hindi siya isolated sa midterm.
07:41.0
So, isang grupo yan.
07:42.2
Ang kanilang concern ay
07:43.7
paano banatan yung Chacha,
07:46.4
yung PI,
07:47.5
without being identified
07:48.9
with the Duterte?
07:50.8
Kaya, ang nilabas nila...
07:51.7
Carve out their own...
07:52.8
Kaya, ang nilabas nila
07:55.1
this past few days, no?
07:56.4
Mula dun sa Pinagkakataon,
07:57.7
mga ka-left-leaning
07:58.6
hanggang dun sa pinaka-moderate
08:01.3
ay banat sa mga Duterte.
08:04.1
Wala kayong K
08:05.0
na bumanat dito sa Chacha.
08:07.6
Bakit?
08:08.1
Dahil kayo ay pro-Chacha
08:09.4
during your watch.
08:10.8
No?
08:11.6
Ganun yung line of attack nila.
08:14.0
No?
08:14.5
Ngayon,
08:15.3
yan ba ay magiging
08:16.9
dominant political narrative?
08:19.5
I'm not sure.
08:20.3
Dahil, syempre,
08:21.6
mas popular yung mga Duterte
08:23.7
kesa sa mga pink ngayon.
08:26.0
Diba?
08:26.2
Kaya, baka...
08:27.1
Sa ngayon.
08:27.7
Yeah, yeah.
08:28.2
Kaya, baka matabunan sila
08:30.2
kung hindi nila isya-sharpen
08:31.8
yung kanilang sariling
08:33.1
political narrative.
08:34.4
Kung hindi nila isya-sharpen
08:35.7
yung kanilang mga talking...
08:37.2
Excuse.
08:38.4
Talking heads, no?
08:39.9
Dahil, syempre,
08:40.7
kahit isa, dalawa, tatlo lang
08:42.7
yung talking heads
08:43.5
ng mga Duterte,
08:44.9
eh, pwede yan eh.
08:46.2
No?
08:46.4
Pipika pin ang media.
08:47.7
Dahil, puro PI eh.
08:49.3
No?
08:49.5
Puro PI.
08:50.6
No?
08:51.7
The Sun, si Bastet,
08:53.1
akala ko nga,
08:53.6
nasa Committee on Silence yan.
08:55.3
No?
08:55.8
Calling for the resignation
08:57.1
of the...
08:57.7
of the President.
08:58.9
No?
08:59.5
Tapos, si...
09:00.8
na Classic Digong, no?
09:02.6
Classic Digong, nandiyan.
09:04.0
So,
09:05.3
wala silang problema sa media.
09:07.5
No?
09:08.2
Yung, ah...
09:09.1
yung pink...
09:09.8
mga pink...
09:11.0
pink wave, no?
09:12.4
Rising from the ashes,
09:14.2
nagpapagpag pa yan.
09:15.7
Nagpapagpag pa yan
09:16.3
ng abo.
09:18.0
No?
09:18.3
Sabi nga ni Alex Magno,
09:20.8
medyo may PTSD pa.
09:22.6
No?
09:22.7
So, nagpo-process pa yan.
09:24.3
May process...
09:24.8
Si Alex Magno may analysis.
09:26.4
Oh.
09:26.9
Ha?
09:27.3
Oh.
09:27.7
Saan si Alex Magno?
09:29.1
Oh.
09:29.5
Idol kayo ata nun, eh.
09:31.6
So, ayun, no?
09:32.3
May...
09:32.6
may ganun pa, no?
09:34.5
Na...
09:35.1
Medyo nag-i-stretch...
09:36.9
nag-i-stretching pa.
09:38.0
Nag-i-yoga pa.
09:39.2
No?
09:39.7
Para ma-prepare yung kanilang katawan
09:41.6
dito sa battle na ito
09:43.3
na ang tingin nila
09:44.2
ay
09:44.7
hindi lamang yung mga proponents
09:47.2
na tsa-tsa ang kalaban
09:48.2
kung hindi
09:49.1
yung isang nasa flank nila
09:51.4
na nagpapanggap
09:53.2
as the new opposition.
09:54.9
No?
09:55.6
Yun yung...
09:56.4
So, yun yung isa.
09:57.2
Tapos, sa gitna ng dalawa na yan
09:59.4
na anti-tsa-tsa
10:00.8
is the Senate.
10:02.7
No?
10:02.9
Na halo-halo.
10:04.4
Merong pro-BBM,
10:05.7
may pro-Duterte,
10:07.4
merong pink,
10:08.4
no?
10:09.0
Na nandyan, no?
10:10.3
Pero, united sila
10:11.6
against people's initiative.
10:14.1
No?
10:14.9
Yun yung...
10:15.5
Sa kanila kasi
10:16.3
existential
10:17.3
yung issue
10:18.9
ng Senate.
10:20.1
Right.
10:20.9
Yeah, I mean,
10:21.4
you see IME markers
10:22.6
coming out very strong
10:23.7
about it
10:24.2
ng kapalang...
10:24.9
Yes.
10:25.1
No?
10:25.7
So, merong kang tatlo.
10:26.9
Ang gulo na ito, no?
10:27.6
Ang gulo, oh.
10:28.4
Merong pang mga maliliit na grupo
10:30.0
na...
10:30.6
na...
10:31.4
na...
10:32.2
sinusubok mag-create
10:33.8
na kanilang mark.
10:34.8
No?
10:36.2
Either, alam mo,
10:37.3
sabi ni
10:37.7
Tony Labinia,
10:39.5
no?
10:39.7
Yung kaibigan mo,
10:40.9
eh, dapat lahat tayo
10:41.9
mag-unite
10:42.5
around BBM.
10:44.0
No?
10:44.2
Nabasa mo ba yun?
10:45.7
Yung sabi niya?
10:46.0
For now.
10:46.7
Hindi, sinisight na ito openly,
10:48.1
actually.
10:48.8
Alam ko.
10:50.1
Oo.
10:52.3
Dahil,
10:52.8
the alternative,
10:54.0
no?
10:54.4
Is, ah...
10:55.1
Is, ah...
10:55.8
Is bad for all of us.
10:56.9
Di ba?
10:57.9
Yun yung sinasabi niya.
10:59.7
At, meron din mga galing sa pink
11:01.6
na nakatawid na.
11:03.3
Di ba?
11:03.7
Nandun na sa kabila, eh.
11:05.2
No?
11:05.4
Hindi ko nasasabihin...
11:06.1
Bilang nakatawid,
11:07.0
nag-chopper.
11:08.1
Oo.
11:08.4
Hindi ko nasasabihin
11:10.4
kung sino sila, no?
11:12.1
Hindi.
11:12.5
Masasabihin,
11:13.2
pero sasabihin mo ng
11:14.2
konti.
11:15.4
No?
11:16.1
May mga nakatawid na,
11:18.1
no?
11:18.3
May nakatawid na.
11:19.2
At baka,
11:20.0
may tatawid pa
11:20.9
kung hindi nangyari
11:22.4
yung People's Initiative.
11:24.4
May tatawid pa
11:25.3
kung hindi nangyari
11:26.2
yung EDSA
11:26.8
puwera.
11:27.8
O, at saka
11:28.2
maharli ka po.
11:29.0
Oo.
11:29.5
So,
11:30.1
may mga ganun, eh.
11:31.4
May mga ganun, eh.
11:32.8
Yung mga tipo ni
11:33.6
Tony Labina na
11:34.7
lesser evil framework.
11:36.9
No?
11:37.1
This is the lesser evil.
11:38.0
Or more like sequencing.
11:39.6
Like, wait lang.
11:40.3
First of all,
11:40.9
ayaw mo na
11:42.1
lesser evil, no?
11:43.0
Dahil yung lesser evil
11:43.9
kasi is still evil.
11:45.3
Yun nga.
11:45.7
I don't think that
11:46.6
meant, I think,
11:47.5
to be fair to him
11:48.3
and God bless him.
11:49.4
I think it was more like
11:50.1
saying, as of now,
11:51.6
ito yung
11:52.2
pangunahin
11:53.3
na threat
11:54.2
sa ating bayan,
11:55.2
ganyan, ganyan.
11:56.1
Then, mamaya,
11:56.8
I think it's also like
11:58.2
the argument of
11:58.9
Bernie Sanders, no?
11:59.9
Nung in-endorse niya
12:00.6
si Hillary Clinton.
12:01.6
Which is, at least
12:02.1
with Hillary Clinton,
12:03.5
kaya ayaw natin sa kanya
12:04.5
na napaka-problematic people,
12:07.0
pwede natin,
12:07.8
we can hold
12:08.4
her feet close to the fire.
12:10.2
Broke and Hillary.
12:11.9
I don't want to say that,
12:13.0
but see.
12:13.5
But you get what I'm saying.
12:14.2
But if Trump wins,
12:15.3
good luck, di ba?
12:15.9
You cannot control
12:16.7
the time.
12:17.0
It's chaos.
12:17.8
So, siguro,
12:18.4
medyo ganyan din ang argument
12:19.5
na pragmatic, sequential
12:21.0
for now,
12:21.8
and then we can work it
12:22.5
from there.
12:23.4
And, you know,
12:24.4
even, you know,
12:25.2
I think Bernie
12:26.7
Sanders was correct,
12:27.5
di ba?
12:28.1
But,
12:29.1
so,
12:30.1
what you're saying here
12:31.3
is that
12:33.2
maybe we are
12:34.2
under-appreciating
12:35.4
how the opposition
12:37.1
is reconsolidating
12:38.5
slowly,
12:39.3
getting over
12:40.0
the PTSD
12:40.9
of multiple losses,
12:42.7
not just last year,
12:43.9
and, you know,
12:45.6
that they may
12:46.2
just reconstitute
12:47.2
on time
12:47.8
to,
12:49.1
I don't know,
12:49.8
I want to say,
12:50.3
forced to recon,
12:51.3
but para may masabi rin
12:54.2
kahit papano
12:54.7
sa 2025,
12:55.7
and hopefully,
12:56.7
ahead of something
12:57.9
more significant
12:58.6
down the road.
12:59.4
Pero ako narinig kanina,
13:00.5
nakuha niya,
13:01.3
ng atake,
13:02.7
a plague on
13:03.5
voucher houses.
13:04.5
Romeo and Juliet,
13:05.3
napalot mo yan?
13:07.7
Interesting.
13:08.5
That's an interesting
13:09.1
theory.
13:09.3
Di ba?
13:09.6
A plague on
13:10.3
voucher houses, no?
13:11.8
Romeo and Juliet framework, no?
13:13.7
And narinig ako na,
13:14.6
yun yung framework, no?
13:15.8
Mula dyan sa
13:16.4
grupo na yan, no?
13:18.5
Ibig sabihin,
13:19.0
they're trying to create
13:19.8
a third pole, no?
13:22.2
It's going to be hard,
13:23.6
dahil galing ka sa
13:24.4
pagkatalo,
13:25.5
tapos,
13:25.8
ah,
13:26.7
merong,
13:27.2
merong ebb,
13:28.5
merong ebb,
13:29.2
merong lal,
13:30.3
at hindi ganung kadali
13:31.3
na umigpaw
13:32.7
or tumalon
13:33.7
mula doon sa ganung
13:34.5
klaseng ebb, no?
13:36.9
Kailangan mo muna mag,
13:38.2
what eh,
13:38.8
na mag-exercise
13:39.9
ng kaunti, no?
13:41.1
To lift yourself up,
13:43.0
di ba?
13:44.8
Kaya yun,
13:45.8
pero merong ganung
13:46.7
klaseng framework.
13:48.6
Hindi sila papasok
13:49.6
doon sa,
13:50.7
sa,
13:51.5
sa isa,
13:52.6
dahil anti-chacha sila,
13:54.3
no?
13:54.8
Pero hindi rin sila,
13:56.1
ah,
13:56.7
pupunta
13:57.8
directly or indirectly
13:59.4
doon sa nagpa-plano
14:01.0
ng destabilization,
14:02.4
doon sa nagpa-plano
14:03.3
ng, ah,
14:04.4
ng, ah,
14:06.4
disruption.
14:07.8
Right.
14:08.3
So, last point on this,
14:09.7
mga parasta yung pag-
14:10.5
long day,
14:11.3
dito na ako,
14:11.7
6, 6, 7 na yung pa ako
14:13.0
nag-meeting sa no.
14:14.1
Um,
14:15.2
what are the,
14:17.1
what,
14:17.8
what is,
14:18.4
kasi kanina, di ba,
14:19.4
pinag-usapan natin
14:20.1
sa ibang episode na
14:21.1
minsan kailangan natin,
14:22.0
hindi, hindi lang minsan,
14:23.1
most of the time,
14:23.5
kailangan natin magpatawa
14:24.6
kasi makapaliw tayo
14:25.5
sa politika natin
14:26.3
kasi makapaliw,
14:26.7
minsan napaka-hopeless case,
14:28.0
di ba,
14:28.7
ah,
14:29.2
kumpara sa mga problema
14:30.1
ng mga bansa
14:30.6
katulad ng mga Japon,
14:31.9
ng mga Scandinavians,
14:33.1
napaka-first world
14:34.5
ang problema nila
14:35.2
kumpara sa atin.
14:35.8
Ang problema nila,
14:37.0
demographics.
14:38.2
Yeah, I mean,
14:38.7
of course,
14:39.2
but there's a solution
14:40.6
to that, of course,
14:41.5
bring in Ronald Llamas
14:42.7
and solve that for you.
14:44.8
But, but,
14:46.1
siyempre,
14:47.7
is there Ronald?
14:48.2
Parang, parang,
14:48.6
parang yung framework mo,
14:50.3
Big R,
14:50.7
ah,
14:51.0
Genghis Khan framework, ah.
14:53.0
Ah, yan na naman tayo.
14:53.6
Spread your seeds.
14:55.2
We never conquered
14:56.5
by Mongolians
14:57.4
sa mga yan, ah.
14:58.9
But, but,
14:59.3
but si Ronald,
15:00.9
bago mo na naman
15:02.0
ako mapahamak,
15:03.0
Diyos ko naman.
15:04.2
Alam ko,
15:04.7
pagod ka kaya
15:05.3
pahamak na naman tayo.
15:06.6
Hindi, ako lang,
15:07.0
ako lang yung bad cop,
15:07.8
ikaw yung good cop.
15:08.6
Ikaw bad lang.
15:10.3
Ako yung politically,
15:11.1
ako yung politically incorrect, no?
15:13.8
Ako yung,
15:14.4
ako yung Rogan,
15:15.7
di ba?
15:15.9
Ako yung Rogan, di ba?
15:17.3
Eh, ba't isi Rogan
15:18.4
takot na makancel, eh.
15:20.0
Nagsistory lang.
15:21.0
Ikaw yung John Stewart, no?
15:22.7
Ayan tayo.
15:23.5
Ayan tayo.
15:24.3
Eto, eto huli.
15:26.7
What gives you hope
15:27.8
about the opposition so far?
15:29.2
I mean, I'm glad that,
15:30.4
you know,
15:31.0
real opposition figures
15:32.0
like Tony Lavigne
15:32.7
are coming out
15:33.4
and, you know,
15:33.8
having a real talk like this.
15:35.3
And I know he has
15:35.9
the best of intention.
15:36.8
And I kind of agree with him
15:37.8
to a certain degree
15:38.3
on certain issues.
15:39.6
And I think he meant
15:40.7
really good
15:41.3
with that kind of
15:42.1
brave, courageous,
15:43.5
risky intervention.
15:45.2
But,
15:45.5
what are the things
15:47.2
that are really giving you
15:48.0
a lot of hope ngayon
15:48.9
pagdating sa
15:49.9
opposition?
15:51.4
Exactly dahil nga dun sa Kwan.
15:53.3
Exactly dahil sa
15:54.1
nangyayari.
15:55.1
No?
15:55.9
Exactly.
15:56.3
Because both sides
15:57.9
are weakening each other.
16:00.1
They're also weakening
16:01.3
the country.
16:02.4
No?
16:03.1
But they're also
16:04.0
weakening each other.
16:05.5
At yung
16:05.9
impact niyan sa bansa
16:07.4
could also be a stimulus
16:09.7
for a third poll.
16:11.8
Diba?
16:12.5
Dahil,
16:13.2
makikita ng mga tao,
16:14.5
oh,
16:15.0
yung unity,
16:15.6
masak na.
16:16.4
At hindi lang wasak.
16:17.7
No?
16:18.1
Mukhang magpapatayan.
16:19.6
Diba?
16:20.4
No?
16:20.9
Eh, baka hindi lang
16:21.9
pwedeng manood
16:22.7
ng ilabas
16:24.1
lang ang popcorn.
16:25.1
Hindi lang mag-participate
16:26.6
tayo, no?
16:27.2
Kaya maglagay ng armor.
16:28.5
Oh.
16:29.0
Eh, kalawa,
16:30.0
eh,
16:30.6
yung 90 billion na MOU
16:32.3
wala pumapasok.
16:33.9
Dahil,
16:34.8
dahil,
16:35.4
partly dahil sa away na ito,
16:37.5
partly dahil
16:38.2
sa ating comparative advantage.
16:40.5
Nakita ko yung
16:41.3
favorito mong sekretary,
16:42.8
may pinost na naman
16:43.5
ng may bagong MOU
16:44.7
na naman.
16:46.3
Sabi ko,
16:47.3
department of MOU
16:49.4
talaga.
16:50.0
So,
16:51.2
kumpara dun sa
16:51.8
one and a half years,
16:53.3
eh,
16:53.5
mas,
16:53.7
mas,
16:54.0
mas,
16:54.1
mas malaki yung opportunity
16:55.0
ngayon, no?
16:56.4
Mas malaki yung opportunity.
16:57.4
At saka,
16:58.3
medyo uplifting
16:59.4
yung nangyari
17:00.1
sa LaSalle Green Hills.
17:01.6
Na parang,
17:02.3
everybody was there.
17:04.0
No?
17:04.3
Everybody was there.
17:04.7
Pero hindi ako,
17:05.4
hindi ako inibito.
17:06.8
Eh, ikaw,
17:07.6
medyo,
17:08.5
may mga konsile,
17:09.5
may mga reservations
17:10.5
sila sa'yo, eh, no?
17:11.5
At talaga tama lang
17:12.4
na may reservation
17:12.9
talaga ako opposition.
17:14.0
Pero,
17:14.4
pero wala rin ako ron, eh.
17:16.4
Sabi,
17:17.0
sabi.
17:17.8
Pero,
17:18.0
hindi ko dahil sa akin.
17:20.1
Hindi rin ako na-invite.
17:22.4
Hindi ko dahil sa akin,
17:23.8
lalo hindi ko na-invite.
17:24.9
O,
17:24.9
gumuguhot ulit
17:25.9
ang self-esteem.
17:26.9
Bakit hindi ako makatulog
17:27.9
mamaya?
17:28.5
Ayan tayo.
17:29.6
Sakit na.
17:30.4
Sakit na.
17:31.4
Okay.
17:32.2
Last, last thing.
17:33.5
What are the things
17:34.1
na sa tingin mo
17:34.7
still opposition
17:35.6
should work on double time
17:37.0
para hindi maging
17:37.7
complacent naman,
17:38.9
diba?
17:39.0
So,
17:39.6
again,
17:39.8
as always,
17:40.2
diba,
17:40.4
ang policy natin is,
17:41.8
essentially,
17:42.3
life philosophy natin is,
17:43.8
don't be cynical,
17:45.3
fight for what's right.
17:47.1
Might not come tomorrow,
17:48.7
but you have to fight
17:49.8
for what's right
17:50.4
because it might come
17:51.2
at some point
17:51.7
it's the right thing to do.
17:52.5
But at the same time,
17:53.5
don't be also complacent.
17:54.8
Huwag lang mag-popcorn,
17:55.7
popcorn.
17:56.1
So,
17:56.3
what are the areas
17:56.8
where you think
17:57.3
may pagkakulang talaga
17:58.6
itong...
17:58.8
First is leadership.
18:00.5
Kaya yung mga Pinoy
18:01.2
tumitingin pa rin sa leaders.
18:02.7
Alimawa kanina.
18:03.6
You need an anchor there, yeah.
18:04.7
Kanina,
18:05.0
26th anniversary
18:06.1
ng Akbayan.
18:07.6
Sige yung nandun,
18:08.7
no?
18:09.5
Nandun si Justice Carpio,
18:11.5
nandun si Eta Rosales,
18:13.2
nandun si Risa,
18:14.4
nandun si Randy David,
18:16.3
nandun si Edesio de la Torre,
18:18.1
nandun si Laila de Lima,
18:19.8
no?
18:20.4
So,
18:21.0
nandun sila,
18:21.6
no?
18:22.6
Yung Ronald,
18:23.7
nasa kitchen kumakain,
18:26.0
no?
18:26.4
Pero nandun sila,
18:27.3
no?
18:27.6
Ibig sabihin,
18:28.6
medyo na-inspire yung mga bata,
18:30.7
no?
18:30.9
Yung mga
18:32.1
lumang artifacts,
18:33.5
no?
18:33.9
Na nilalabas pag may bisita,
18:35.9
nandun lahat.
18:37.2
At mahalaga yun,
18:38.1
because these are eloquent
18:39.7
leaders,
18:41.3
no?
18:41.9
Ito ay mga,
18:43.0
may marami ng
18:44.0
defining moments,
18:45.6
no?
18:46.0
So,
18:46.3
it's a mixture of old
18:48.0
and new,
18:49.1
no?
18:49.2
Tingin ko yun yung dapat
18:50.2
mangyari dito sa Pink
18:51.3
pala yung base ng Pink
18:53.0
are
18:53.4
young people,
18:54.9
eh.
18:55.2
Diba?
18:56.3
Volunteers,
18:57.0
no?
18:57.5
Taas ng energy,
18:59.0
pero
18:59.4
minsan leaderless,
19:03.1
diba?
19:03.7
Minsan leaderless,
19:04.9
eh.
19:05.0
Nung natapos yung eleksyon,
19:06.6
pack up,
19:07.4
no?
19:07.9
Uwian sa mga bahay,
19:09.6
tapos take,
19:10.2
wala na.
19:11.3
Diba?
19:11.7
Ngayon dapat
19:12.4
sustained yung leadership.
19:15.4
Yan ba si Rene,
19:16.4
yan ba si Risa,
19:17.8
no?
19:18.0
Yan ba si Laila,
19:19.4
all of the above,
19:20.5
no?
19:20.7
Dapat
19:21.5
i-sustain yan,
19:24.3
no?
19:24.5
Dapat i-sustain na yan,
19:26.1
no?
19:26.6
So, yun yung una.
19:27.6
Ikalawa,
19:28.6
yung mga
19:29.0
old fogies
19:30.6
ng mga organizer
19:31.4
na marami rin
19:32.7
mga defining moments,
19:34.3
marami rin kanasan,
19:35.5
no?
19:36.0
Eh, mentorship nila
19:37.0
yung mga bata.
19:38.2
Hindi na yung mga
19:38.9
dating Paul Ed,
19:40.0
Teach In,
19:40.7
no?
19:41.1
Mentorship,
19:42.3
OJT,
19:43.5
no?
19:43.6
Elan at Junior Ronald.
19:45.3
O,
19:45.6
nag-o-hubble
19:46.1
ng mga organized,
19:47.1
no?
19:47.3
Mga kwan, no?
19:48.4
Eto,
19:48.8
mga organizers,
19:50.1
ito,
19:50.4
mga,
19:50.7
mga negotiators,
19:52.4
ito,
19:52.7
mga coalition builders,
19:54.2
no?
19:54.6
Ito,
19:54.9
mga Machiavellian,
19:56.1
katulad ni Big R,
19:57.2
no?
19:57.7
Ito yung mga,
19:58.4
so,
19:58.9
iba't-ibang mga
19:59.8
good Machiavellian,
20:01.0
good,
20:01.3
good.
20:02.3
Iba't-ibang clusters,
20:03.7
no?
20:03.8
Iba't-ibang clusters
20:04.6
organize mo
20:05.4
yesterday,
20:07.3
no?
20:07.9
Dapat ginawa yan yesterday,
20:09.2
pero gawin mo na ngayon,
20:10.6
di ba?
20:11.1
Yun yung,
20:11.6
yun yung isa,
20:12.6
no?
20:13.1
Tapos,
20:14.3
alam mo,
20:14.8
magaling ang,
20:15.4
magaling ang progressive movement,
20:17.5
networking,
20:18.3
no?
20:19.6
Yung skill set mo,
20:20.7
no?
20:21.9
Na,
20:22.5
which has established
20:23.7
for decades,
20:25.0
ngayon mo gamitin,
20:26.4
no?
20:27.3
Ngayon mo gamitin,
20:28.3
no?
20:28.5
Inspire people,
20:29.9
organize people,
20:31.5
no?
20:32.1
Pero,
20:32.9
no?
20:34.2
Train everybody
20:35.3
in a new way
20:37.5
of training
20:38.1
at education,
20:39.3
mentorship.
20:41.1
Hindi na uubra yung teaching,
20:42.3
eh,
20:42.7
no?
20:43.4
Hindi na uubra yung,
20:44.5
ano eh?
20:45.2
Hindi na uubra yung mga
20:46.5
seminar-seminar.
20:47.9
Sabi nga ni Randy kanina,
20:49.3
Zoom,
20:49.6
Zoom.
20:49.8
Kaya,
20:50.3
kalahati ng kanyang speech,
20:51.7
chat GPT,
20:53.1
no?
20:53.9
So,
20:54.8
na hindi ko pala susubukan,
20:56.2
no?
20:56.7
So,
20:57.6
pero,
20:58.7
you have to do this,
21:00.0
no?
21:00.2
Not only in a postmodern way,
21:02.4
but in the new mode,
21:03.8
no?
21:04.0
In a new mode.
21:05.1
Yan yung hindi nga gawin.
21:06.5
Hindi chat GPT.
21:07.9
So,
21:08.2
nakikita ko yung
21:09.0
harnessing of the old
21:10.2
and the new,
21:11.2
no?
21:11.4
Yung dialectics niyan,
21:12.9
no?
21:13.2
Ay nagsisimula na
21:14.7
na mag-gel.
21:18.1
That is the future
21:19.2
of the future.
21:19.4
Of the future.
21:19.4
Of the future.
21:19.5
Of the future.
21:19.5
Of the future.
21:19.6
Of the future.
21:19.8
Of the progressive movement.
21:21.1
That is the future
21:22.8
of the
21:24.2
weak liberal tradition.
21:28.0
Thank you very much
21:28.9
for that kind of intervention.
21:30.2
Let's just make some
21:30.9
very clear,
21:32.3
mag-clarify lang tayo.
21:33.7
Una-una sa mga
21:34.3
nagbabash sa akin,
21:35.3
sorry,
21:35.7
dito sa Japan,
21:36.9
7 to 10 p.m.
21:37.9
ang working time.
21:38.8
Kaya,
21:38.9
kakaugil lang natin
21:39.8
na kaganyan.
21:40.4
Hindi tayo nagpapogi
21:41.3
dahil sa inyo.
21:42.3
Pangalawa,
21:42.9
bakit ang taong sa iyo
21:43.9
Ronald Alden?
21:45.6
Liyang,
21:45.8
bakit?
21:46.1
Meron mga walang yan.
21:51.3
Saan galing yan?
21:52.2
Oo,
21:52.6
na-cross down ako ng bayan.
21:54.2
May mga walang yan.
21:55.0
No, not Alden.
21:56.1
Na-cross down ako ng bayan.
21:57.7
At,
21:57.8
yung cross down ng bayan,
21:59.7
yung Alden.
22:01.0
Yung Alden daw
22:01.9
ng mga podcasters.
22:03.7
Eh,
22:04.4
sabi ng punso ko,
22:06.3
Papa,
22:06.7
ang layo mo ron.
22:08.0
Tiso yun eh.
22:09.1
Tiso yun.
22:09.8
Sabi ko,
22:10.3
tiso yung ilalim
22:11.1
ng aking kilikili.
22:12.3
Maputili yung aking
22:13.3
ilalim ng kilikili.
22:15.1
Kaya,
22:15.7
dapat,
22:15.9
matawagin nilang Alden
22:17.1
yung Richard Zahidarian.
22:19.7
Okay na ako sa
22:20.5
Ding Dong Dantes.
22:21.0
Richard din siya,
22:21.7
di ba Richard?
22:23.3
Okay na ako sa
22:24.3
Ding Dong Dantes.
22:26.0
Ayan.
22:26.6
Ayan.
22:27.3
Hunk.
22:28.0
Hunk.
22:29.0
Okay na ako.
22:29.8
Yung demographic problem.
22:31.8
Okay na ako.
22:32.4
Demographic problem.
22:33.5
Ding Dong Dantes,
22:34.3
hindi Hayden ko ah.
22:36.7
Ayan na naman tayo dyan.
22:38.8
Ayan na naman tayo dyan.
22:40.5
Maraming salamat
22:41.5
sa ating special guest
22:42.8
Ronald Alden.
22:44.4
Alden.
22:45.4
Rogan.
22:45.9
Ang dami na kukomment
22:47.7
dito,
22:48.0
lalo sa TikTok.
22:49.4
Ang mean yung mga
22:50.4
nang sa TikTok.
22:51.2
Buti pa yung mga
22:51.8
nang sa YouTube
22:52.7
at saka Facebook
22:54.1
medyo matino-tino.
22:55.2
Pero yung mga nang
22:55.7
dito sa TikTok
22:56.6
talaga mga
22:57.1
ibang klase talaga.
22:58.7
Lahat na lang
22:59.2
nilait sa akin.
23:00.6
Lahat na lang
23:01.2
quote natin.
23:02.5
Yung San Goko
23:03.8
kong hair na
23:04.7
ano.
23:05.7
Pati yung guest ko
23:06.7
ginawang Aldens
23:07.8
na talagang.
23:08.7
Pwede ako salang
23:09.4
gayahin yung buhok ko
23:10.5
pero kulang ako
23:11.4
sa buhok eh.
23:12.2
Hindi, maligo ako
23:13.1
mamay.
23:13.5
Hindi ko alam
23:14.0
nangyari.
23:14.5
Okay naman siya.
23:15.7
Thursday, Italia.
23:17.1
Second day, San Goko.
23:18.5
My goodness.
23:19.6
Delikado pa naman.
23:20.5
Salamat, Sir
23:21.3
Ronald Llamas.
23:22.7
Kahit anong style
23:23.6
ng buhok mo,
23:24.3
ikaw pa rin
23:24.9
ang crush ng bayan.
23:26.6
Thank you very much.
23:28.2
Ronald
23:28.5
Alden
23:29.8
Llamas.
23:29.9
Alden Tisoy.
23:31.6
Rogan.
23:34.5
Salamat.
23:36.1
Enjoy ka dyan.
23:37.6
Sir Ronald,
23:38.3
para ano yan?
23:39.4
Huwag ka na magdala
23:40.4
ng single malt
23:41.3
na Japanese.
23:41.9
Ayan na naman tayo.
23:43.0
Ayan na naman.
23:43.6
Huwag ka na magdala.
23:44.3
Masarap ang single malt
23:45.3
dyan.
23:45.6
Pero huwag mo nang dalhin.
23:46.6
Ayan na naman yung mga
23:47.6
magpapapigat sa baggage
23:49.6
natin.
23:50.4
Okay.
23:51.7
Hindi, hindi.
23:53.5
Dapat parang
23:54.2
beauty pageant tayo.
23:55.7
Thank you very much
23:56.6
for that question.
23:59.3
Thank you.
24:01.0
Good night.
24:02.3
Salamat.
24:03.3
Sa beauty contest
24:05.6
ang sabi nila,
24:06.4
ano?
24:07.4
Ayan tayo.
24:08.0
Delikado na naman tayo.
24:09.9
Ronald,
24:10.6
i-text mo na lang yan.
24:11.9
Feeling ko may matabi ka.
24:13.5
Think?
24:14.3
Think clean.
24:15.7
Think green.
24:16.9
Thank you.
24:18.1
Ayan.
24:19.5
Thank you.
24:20.4
Yes to sports.
24:21.5
No to drugs.
24:22.8
No to fentanyl.
24:24.3
No to polvoron.
24:25.4
No to fentanyl.
24:26.0
No to fentanyl.
24:27.8
No to polvoron.
24:28.9
Thank you very much.
24:30.5
Yes to chunky.
24:34.0
Ayan talaga tayo.
24:36.0
Salamat, sir.
24:37.3
Ronald Alden Llamas
24:39.7
from
24:40.5
Kestan City.
24:44.3
May bago ka naman natutunan ha.
24:47.0
Hindi kasi nung isang araw.
24:49.2
Ayan na.
24:50.0
Yung philosophy natin.
24:51.1
Magpapatawa tayo.
24:52.1
Hindi kasi,
24:52.9
ganito Ronald.
24:53.8
Alam ko daw
24:54.3
nang tapos tayo.
24:55.3
Pero,
24:56.0
we should have talked about it.
24:57.4
Pero honestly,
24:58.0
nalungkot talaga ako dun
24:59.2
sa CNN Philippines.
25:00.5
Kasi,
25:00.8
alam ko it's like
25:02.2
financial issues and all.
25:03.3
Pero sa tingin ko,
25:04.1
oh,
25:04.3
hindi lang lumabas pa yung CNN dito.
25:06.1
No, it's because
25:06.7
obviously,
25:07.3
yung ginawa ni Digong
25:08.1
sa ABS-CBN
25:08.9
and all of that.
25:09.6
I think nasira talaga
25:10.6
yung mainstream media.
25:11.6
Alam mo,
25:12.1
talaga.
25:12.5
And parang nawala
25:15.0
ng respeto ng tao
25:15.9
sa journalism
25:16.5
as a profession
25:17.5
after 6 years.
25:19.4
Actually,
25:19.9
halos lahat ng broadcast media
25:21.6
ngayon ay nalulugi.
25:22.9
I mean,
25:23.4
it's,
25:23.8
it's,
25:24.2
lahat-lahat sila.
25:25.1
I mean,
25:25.4
given na yung social media
25:26.9
is coming in,
25:27.6
pero yung ginawa ni Digong
25:28.7
di karabit,
25:29.5
accelerated,
25:30.4
especially after ABS-CBN
25:31.6
falling apart.
25:32.4
So,
25:32.8
it's really sad.
25:33.9
Kaya,
25:35.0
para lang hindi ako malungkot
25:36.2
o iyak sa,
25:37.1
ano ko,
25:37.7
ento na lang,
25:38.2
nag-transition na lang ako.
25:39.8
Thank you very much
25:40.6
for that question.
25:42.0
Bye.
25:42.5
Thank you.
25:44.8
Thank you.
25:45.9
Thank you.
25:46.4
Thank you.
25:49.2
Alright,
25:50.2
Sir Liamas,
25:51.1
God bless
25:51.8
and talk to you soon.
25:53.5
Enjoy,
25:54.4
no?
25:55.2
Enjoy the cold
25:56.3
in Japan,
25:57.0
no?
25:58.2
Arigato,
25:59.6
arigato.
26:01.0
Pero not
26:01.4
Alden San,
26:02.4
Alden San,
26:03.2
yun ang tawag kasi.
26:04.0
Alden San,
26:04.8
arigato.