RAFFY TULFO, UNAWAIN MO SANA ANG SOURCE CODE VS. ROOT ACCESS
00:33.0
Tax nyo, campaign fund ko.
00:38.9
Ang pangarap maging politika.
00:46.2
Mga kabatas natin, balikan natin ito.
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Itong si Rafi Tupo.
00:50.9
Ito yung sa ano, mga kabatas natin, nasa ilo to.
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Source code ang usapan nila.
00:56.9
source code, tapos ano, root access.
01:01.6
Ang dami-dami nang sinabi si Rafi Tupo,
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si Rafi Tupo gusto niya nang ibigay yung root access sa kung kani-kaninong tao.
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Hindi niya pala maintindihan kung ano yung root access.
01:11.6
Sira rin dito, mga kabatas natin.
01:13.2
Hindi nila maintindihan kung ano yung root access at ano yung source code.
01:21.3
Well, meron din akong ano eh.
01:23.0
Meron din akong hindi masyadong pag-agree.
01:26.9
Dito sa sinabi ni ano eh.
01:28.7
Sinabi dito ng abogado.
01:30.1
Pero makikita nyo talaga dito, mga kabatas natin, na hindi talaga nila masyadong kabisado yung pinag-uusapan nila.
01:37.7
Paano pa si Rafi Tupo?
01:39.3
Pakinggan natin ito, mga kabatas natin.
01:43.1
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
01:45.1
I think we should make a distinction between root access and source code, Mr. Chair.
01:51.2
The source code under our agreement with the Philippine Lottery System Provider,
01:56.9
the source code is actually in a sealed envelope signed by the provider and PCSO.
02:06.0
And under the agreement is to be deposited in an escrow account with land bank.
02:12.2
That is the process, Mr. Chair.
02:14.6
And we've already submitted all requirements to Land Bank of the Philippines for the establishment of that escrow account.
02:23.9
Okay, mga kabatas natin.
02:25.3
Papaliwanag ko sa mga hindi makaintindihan.
02:26.9
They confuse source code and root access.
02:33.9
Ang root access, mga kabatas natin, actually, kaya nga root ang tawag doon,
02:38.2
ibig sabihin, ma-access mo yung kaybuturan ng puso nung server.
02:47.0
Pwede kang mag-read, pwede kang mag-write.
02:51.2
Siyempre, depende sa permission na binibigay sa'yo.
02:54.1
Pwede ka rin naman kasing maka-access lang,
02:56.4
pero hindi ka pwedeng mag-write.
02:59.8
Pwede ka mag-read lang.
03:04.2
Pero pag root access, as the term implies, it's merely access.
03:09.0
Ang source code naman, mga kabatas natin, ito yung program mismo.
03:14.5
So ano ang dahilan kung bakit ito dinideposito?
03:19.3
Dinideposito naman yung source code na yan, mga kabatas natin, para meron silang basis.
03:25.6
O yung pinagana nilang source code.
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In other words, that serves as a backup.
03:32.0
Para pag kunwari, may nang-hack, may nanira, may gumalaw,
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doon sa source code na gumagana,
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doon sa server kung saan nagpapatakbo sila,
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ng platform, gaming platform, mga kabatas natin,
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pwede nilang ikukumpara yan.
03:52.9
Yung dinipositiba nila na source code,
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yun ba yung gumagana ng source code?
03:58.4
That's only a replica or a copy of the actual source code.
04:10.0
The source code will be deposited.
04:12.0
As mentioned by DICT, it is not something that you use every day, Mr. Chair.
04:18.5
That's also wrong.
04:20.1
The source code is something you use every day.
04:23.5
Because that is the program that is...
04:25.6
It's running in your online gaming platform.
04:31.5
In your online lottery platform.
04:35.0
Yung source code na yun, yun yung tumatakbo doon.
04:38.6
Pero may kopya kayo na intact as a backup,
04:44.3
kapag may nangyari doon sa program nyo na actual na tumatakbo.
04:48.7
It's being accessed every day.
04:55.6
It's being accessed every day.
04:59.5
Kasi yun yung pinapatakbo eh.
05:06.1
So that's like the...
05:07.8
I cannot give an example.
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So what's the difference between the source code and the root access?
05:12.5
Tingnan mo, ngayon lang yung siya nagtanong ng what's the difference between source code and root access.
05:20.3
Yung source code, yun yung program mismo.
05:28.6
Kaya nga coding ang tawag pag gumagawa ka ng program, di ba?
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Kasi yun yung kinocompile, tapos yun yung tumatakbo.
05:42.9
The difference is huge.
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Apakinggan natin mga kabatas natin.
05:47.8
Yung kanyang sinasabi.
05:49.7
The root access, Mr. Chair, is the access of a certain user to the system.
05:55.3
Like for example,
05:55.5
to check on how many sales there are for this 642, 649 game.
06:04.7
So that access, actually, the highest access is given to GM Robles.
06:12.5
But just to correct, Mr. Chair, when you have access, it does not mean that you can edit.
06:19.4
It's not editable, Mr. Chair.
06:28.7
Because you have, you can, you can assign different access levels.
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Yung mga hindi marunong pwede nang tumingin.
06:41.8
Yung mga marunong, sila yung mga pwedeng mag-edit.
06:46.0
Sabi niya, Maj, read only pala.
06:51.3
Wala ka rin magagawa.
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Pwede ka rin tumingin.
06:55.5
Our apologies for the statement last time.
07:06.5
A program has a front-end and back-end.
07:09.0
Source code is the back-end.
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Yun yung nagpapatakbo ng lahat.
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Yung front-end, mga kabatas natin,
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yan yung tinatawag nila na doon sa mga games.
07:24.3
Kapag nagda-download kayo.
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Idadawnload nyo yung client.
07:30.7
Para yung client na yun, yun yung mag-a-access sa server o database server.
07:38.2
Yung front-end na sinasabi dito ni Gugu,
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yung app na dinadownload nyo,
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yun yung client, ang tawag doon.
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Para ma-access niya yung source code doon sa back-end.
07:57.0
A, tama rin yung sinabi ni Sendong dito.
07:58.8
Both front-end and back-end have their own source code too.
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Yun yung dinideposit doon.
08:03.7
Para ma-maintain yung kanyang integrity.
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Para kahit ano man ang mangyari, alam nila kung ano yung actual na linunch nila na version.
08:17.9
Ang problema, that's very basic if you know it.
08:20.7
Pero if you don't know it, you will ask what the difference between a source code and root access.
08:25.5
They're totally different animals.
08:29.4
Ganyan si Rafi Tulfo.
08:30.5
Nagalit na siya dyan.
08:31.6
At pinamigay niya nasa kung kani-kanino,
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yung access, yung root access,
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tinatanggihan naman,
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pero wala pala siyang alam sa ginagawa niya.
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Isipin mo yun, wala kang alam, pero ang dami mong ebas.
08:51.0
But it is not as if when you have access...
08:55.5
Do you think I'm stupid?
08:56.9
Do you think I'm stupid?
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Hindi pala, I'm not stupid.
09:01.0
Sinabi na, I'm not stupid.
09:02.4
Do you think I'm stupid?
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It is not a document that you can edit.
09:10.5
I don't think so.
09:11.3
I don't think so.
09:12.7
Oo, I don't think so.
09:17.9
It is not a document that you can edit.
09:20.9
I don't think so.
09:21.8
I don't think so.
09:22.8
Alam nyo, alam nyo.
09:26.0
Bilang isang web developer
09:29.9
Ganon din kasi yan
09:31.0
You give access to several people
09:36.2
Pwedeng mag-write
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Pwedeng mag-execute
09:38.1
Blah, blah, blah, blah
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Ina-assign mo yun sa mga users
09:41.8
O kaya dun sa mga files
09:43.2
Na ina-access ng mga tao
09:44.6
Bakit I don't think so?
09:46.1
Tignan natin kung
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Kano siya kagaling ha?
09:48.8
It is not a document
09:50.8
That you can edit
09:53.2
I already talked to an expert
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Are you an IT expert?
09:56.0
Attorney Lisa Grace Pagano
09:57.2
Are you an IT expert?
10:02.3
Are you an IT expert?
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I don't think so, Jan
10:09.6
As a web developer
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In information technology
10:17.0
I became the manager
10:29.1
I had 50 websites
10:30.9
Meron akong screenshots nun
10:32.2
Hindi ko lang makita
10:33.0
Meron akong ads natin
10:36.9
Binili ko rin yun noon
10:38.3
Philippine property
10:41.4
Philippine real estate.com
10:44.1
Modelsphilippines.com
10:48.4
Ang natira na lang yung
10:51.6
Kasi hindi na ako
11:01.5
Like that for 5 years
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So, why are you saying
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Eh samantalang yung nandito
11:17.0
Because that's how it works
11:20.4
You only give them
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You want to give them
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Unless they hack your system
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Itong si assistant general manager
11:38.3
At sa si general manager
11:39.7
Ia-hack nila yung sarili nilang system
11:44.4
Last time na hearing namin
11:47.0
Yung sabi niya pwede
11:47.8
So ngayon binabago mo
11:55.1
Kung gusto may paraan
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Yun yung gustong sabihin
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Nung IT expert dun
12:15.8
Kung magpakita sa akin
12:17.5
Na ikaw ay IT expert
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Ka nang I don't think so
12:23.1
Hindi mo nga alam
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Kung ano yung root access
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Hindi mo nga alam
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Kung ano yung source code
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Hindi ka pwede magsalita
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Hindi ka pwede magsalita
12:34.2
So ikaw lang yung pwede magsalita
12:36.1
Mas marunong nga yung kausap mo sayo
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Hindi mo nga maintindihan
12:41.0
Kung ano ang root access
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At saka source code
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It's getting worse by the day
12:54.9
The expert here would be the ICP
12:57.2
Alala hindi na pwede magsalita
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Ikaw expert ka pa
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Pinamamigay mo nga yung root access
13:06.0
Yung kasama nyo dito last time
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She declared herself as
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She declared herself as an expert
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Expert lang daw yung pwedeng magsalita
13:21.1
Magsasalita ka rin
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Ba't wala siya dito ngayon
13:34.2
Ganun ba yun Rafi Tulfo
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Pinapasan na pala yung pagiging expert
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Bawal ka magsalita
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Kasi hindi ka expert
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So ikaw lang pwede magsalita
13:49.4
Ikaw na yung expert
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Kasi wala yung expert
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Ang galing mo talaga
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She was not invited
13:56.8
She was not invited
14:00.9
She was not invited
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Kayo naman yung nag-i-invite
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Kung gusto nyo nandyan siya
14:06.0
Di dapat in-invite nyo
14:07.1
Tapos ngayon yun nga po
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Mamili ka sa dalawa
14:16.2
She was not invited
14:17.8
She was not invited
14:21.4
Hearing mo yan diba
14:22.5
Ikaw yung nag-i-invite
14:23.6
Ba't hindi mo siya in-invite
14:24.8
Natural wala siya
14:26.6
Hindi siya invited eh
14:27.6
Birthday mo yan eh diba
14:29.8
That's your party
14:34.3
Ikaw yung mag-i-invite
14:35.3
Doon sa mga gusto mong umaten
14:36.6
Sa birthday party mo
14:37.6
Kung saan ikaw yung bida lagi
14:49.3
Tinanong ko siya eh
14:51.9
Okay I'll give you an example
14:53.4
Ulitin ko yung example
14:55.7
Akala mo magaling siya
14:57.8
Tignan nyo, tignan nyo, tignan nyo
15:01.5
Si Juan de la Cruz
15:19.2
Register yan sa PCSO
15:21.2
Nataya na yung numero
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7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
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Lumakas yung boses niya
15:32.2
Napansin nyo ba yun?
15:34.2
He's getting to a point
15:37.9
You're following me so far
15:40.2
You're following me so far
15:42.2
Ang talino mo Rafi Tulfo
15:44.4
Mababanatan na naman dito
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Mapapaya si Rafi Tulfo
15:49.3
Pero siya pa rin yung mayabang
15:53.4
Ang may root access
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Pwede niyang palabasin
15:58.0
Kung niya walang nanalo
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Pwede niyang palabasin
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Through another computer system
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Na yung 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
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Iti-change niya to
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7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12
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Para mag-match doon sa winning number
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Tignan nyo, tignan nyo
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Mga kabatas natin
16:19.8
Gaano siya mapapahiya dito
16:21.8
Pero kapalan lang talaga
16:25.1
Sabi niya imposible
16:28.2
Kasi nga may tinatawag na
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Sabi ni Patrocinio
16:40.0
Alam niyo mga kabatas natin
16:42.0
Itong hash din na ito
16:43.4
Importante kasi din yan
16:44.9
Yan din kasi yung identifier
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Yung mga bagay-bagay doon
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Tapos yung hash na rin yan
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Mga kabatas natin
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Dyan rin kami tumitingin
16:55.3
Kung meron mga malicious code
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Yung mga hash niya
17:10.6
Kung may nangyari
17:12.4
Pero, pero mga kabatas natin
17:20.7
Sa bola palang mismo
17:21.8
Ano yung nangyayari?
17:28.0
Akala mo talagang kagaling nila
17:35.6
Yun ba yung binigay niya
17:37.9
The blind leading the blind
17:50.7
Yung tinatawag na witness mirror
17:55.8
Malalaman kung minanalo
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Malalaman naman kasi talaga
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At ipapaliwanag niya yan
18:08.8
Sino ang present doon
18:10.0
Sa tinatawag na witness mirror
18:17.3
Commission on audit
18:24.3
May taga-commission
18:27.7
May mga representatives
18:33.9
Andun din yung mga taong bayan
18:45.1
Suffers an easy chair
18:59.3
Napapanood ko yan eh
19:05.0
Kung nagbubola sila ng loto
19:06.7
Alam nyo nung unang panahon pa lang
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Yung tatay ko kasi tumataya ng loto yan
19:12.4
So linilipat niya yung TV
19:14.4
Pag tumataya ng loto
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Napipilitan na akong manood
19:17.1
Malalaman mo agad kung may nanalo
19:34.1
Pwedeng manipulahin
19:36.3
Eh kasi gugustuhin eh
19:39.0
Kung legal ba yun?
19:43.5
Kasi kung meron kang access sa lahat
19:47.2
Pero dapat pang gawin
19:51.6
Yes, I will do it
19:52.4
Yes, kaya sabi ko I rest my case
19:54.0
Kaya nagsuggest ako
19:56.2
Bukod dun sa mga taga PCSO at saka
19:59.3
Commission of Audit
20:00.1
Maglagay tayo ng third party witness
20:04.5
Which is the taong bayan
20:06.3
From academe, from media, from NGO, from civil society
20:12.2
At nag-agree kayo
20:16.1
So therefore, ang gusto ko
20:20.2
Mas maganda siguro
20:22.4
Diba nagbubola kayo ng mga games live?
20:27.4
Eta, etta, tignan nyo, tignan nyo
20:28.9
Ididebank nyo yung sarili niya
20:30.4
Ididebank nyo yung sarili niya
20:32.4
Dapat sa isang screen
20:36.4
In matter of seconds
20:42.4
Serapi, it's live!
20:44.4
Bola, sasabihin ko minanalo o wala
20:48.4
Gawin natin public?
20:52.4
Probably 3 seconds
20:58.4
When they put the numbers
21:00.4
Mr. Chair, it probably takes
21:06.4
For the system to
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To tell if that is a winning number
21:10.4
Masyado ata matagal
21:14.4
Masyado ata matagal daw
21:23.4
Pagkatapos ng buhay
21:25.4
Palakasin nyo yung computer nyo
21:27.4
Palakasin nyo yung computer nyo
21:29.4
Parang yung utak ni Rafi Tulfo
21:31.4
Palakasin nyo rin, parang awa yun
21:33.4
Bola, lumabas yung 6 na numero
21:35.4
Agad-agad, meron isa pang screen dyan
21:37.4
Napapanood ng mga tao at nandun kay mga witnesses
21:39.4
Mag-register agad
21:41.4
2 winners, 1 winner, tapos nakalagay kung anong lugar
21:43.4
2 winners, 1 winner, tapos nakalagay kung anong lugar
21:45.4
2 winners, 1 winner, tapos nakalagay kung anong lugar
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number of winners can be identified
21:51.4
Hindi sasabing kung sinong winner
21:53.4
Hindi natin kailangan yun
21:55.4
Basta't nakalagay lang kung ilang winners
21:57.4
Kung yan nakalagay, 2 winners
21:59.4
O nakalagay kung yan, Olongapo, Cavite
22:03.4
Pwede yun, gawin natin public from now on
22:07.4
Kasi sa ngayon nakatago eh
22:09.4
Hindi, sa ngayon di ba
22:11.4
Sa ngayon nakatago daw, tignan nyo
22:13.4
Nag-i-yes na lang sila sa kanya
22:19.4
Sinong hindi pa nakapanood ng loto dito?
22:21.4
Sinong hindi pa nakapanood ng loto dito?
22:27.4
It is na being made public, di ba?
22:29.4
Malalaman na lang namin
22:31.4
Malalaman na lang namin
22:33.4
Anong hindi public? Public yung boss ah!
22:35.4
Anong hindi public? Public yung boss ah!
22:53.4
Schedule of evening, 9pm
22:55.4
Schedule of evening, 9pm
22:57.4
Schedule of evening, 9pm
22:59.4
Schedule of evening, 9pm
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Pati nga yung paglagay, di ba?
23:03.4
Pati nga yung paglagay, di ba?
23:05.4
Nung mga bola, public
23:07.4
Tapos titimbangin pa, di ba?
23:09.4
Tapos titimbangin pa, di ba?
23:23.4
Live telecast naman!
23:43.4
After a day or two, sabihin nyo, no winners
23:45.4
After a day or two, sabihin nyo, no winners
23:47.4
Right after the draw, Mr. Chair
23:49.4
Right after the draw
23:51.4
During the live draw, if you watch the live
24:01.4
This is real time
24:03.4
Kung magkakamali ako, yung kamali ko real time
24:13.4
Kung magkakamali ako
24:15.4
Kung magkakamali sa live
24:17.4
Kung magkakamali ako
24:19.4
9pm draw! Immediately
24:21.4
The winner is declared
24:23.4
In a minute, the winner is declared
24:25.4
If there is a winner
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Sinasabi? Yes po!
24:33.4
Sabi ko sa inyo, di ba?
24:35.4
Wala siyang alam!
24:36.9
Pero ang dami niyang ebas!
24:38.3
Pero ang dami niyang ebas!
24:40.3
Sabi ninyo si Jun from official
24:47.4
Pero ikaw ang pinakamaraming ebas
24:54.6
The winner is declared
24:56.8
If there is a winner
25:04.4
Lahat ng mga sinabi niya
25:05.8
Na nawalan ng saysay
25:09.0
Sinayang mo yung oras
25:11.4
Loto ka ng loto dyan
25:14.0
Hindi ka man lang nakapanood
25:15.4
Ng kahit isang loto draw
25:18.8
Yung sinasabi ko pa rin
25:23.2
Yung nagmamonitor
25:25.5
Meron din mga outsider
25:29.0
From the community
25:32.1
A panel of judges
25:33.9
Who participate in the draw procedures
25:39.6
The weighing of the balls
25:41.4
Wala akong problema sa pre-draw
25:51.0
Anong post-audit?
25:52.9
Yung announcement of winners
25:54.5
Yun naman ang importante
26:03.5
Kasi yung post-audit
26:05.8
Eh kayo-kayo lang
26:11.5
Naging basura ang senado
26:13.1
Dahil sa butihin nating siyongador
26:15.4
Sa isang kwarto ata
26:19.2
Doon din po sa draw court
26:21.0
In the draw court
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Which is called the Ramtee
26:29.6
Pero na-announce na yung winner doon
26:31.8
Mag-audit na lang sila
26:45.2
Anong kayong gagawin
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Dapat meron din tao
26:52.6
Kasi ang nangyari
26:53.6
Palagi niyo siyang
27:08.0
Huwag siyang nangyari
27:10.0
Palagi niyo siyang
27:16.3
Chairman pa rin naman siya
27:18.7
I-employ mo na lang
27:20.9
Diyan sa opisina mo
27:24.8
The chairman can watch
27:28.0
Whether the pre-draw
27:30.7
Because it's public
27:38.0
You can watch this
27:39.7
So you will not be
27:46.7
Dapat involve siya palagi
27:47.9
Eh kaya nga siya chairman eh
27:49.9
Ikaw nga hindi ka chairman
27:52.9
Involve ka palagi
27:54.1
Pati sa mga babae
27:55.8
Involve ka palagi
27:57.1
Hindi ka chairman
28:00.3
Pero involved ka sa lahat
28:03.8
Pati sa mga babae
28:12.6
Hindi kasi nakataas
28:16.8
Itaas mo nga yung kilay mo
28:24.9
Mga kabatas natin
28:28.1
Na yung mga sinasabi niya
28:30.2
Yung pinakamalakas
28:31.5
Siya yung walang alam
28:33.9
Pero siya yung pinakamaraming
28:37.0
Mga kabatas natin
28:39.3
Ito na laging sinasabi
28:42.5
Na yung natutulog
28:44.0
Siya yung laging panalo
