00:28.6
And tell me a little bit about yung sinasabi mo kanina off the record.
00:31.9
Maraming kasi namin off the record pa rin ko i-share.
00:34.1
Na parang may courtship na nangyari.
00:36.4
Parang romance of the three kingdoms.
00:40.9
Nililigawan. Nililigawan yung mga kakampings.
00:44.8
Na sa amin kayo pumani kasi salvahin kayong kabila.
00:48.3
O ganun din yung kabila.
00:49.8
So parang ganun yung nangyayari.
00:52.0
Kahit sa vlog mismo ni Maharlika,
00:54.8
doon ako nagulat na parang
00:57.1
she was addressing,
00:58.6
the yellows and the pinks.
01:00.7
Sabi niya, dati nagmumurahan tayo.
01:02.6
Ganyan-ganyan yung sinasabi niya.
01:04.4
Pero alam niyo ba na yung si Lisa,
01:10.3
dapat si Lenny tatanggal,
01:13.0
yung sa election,
01:14.1
election tribunal ni BBM nun,
01:18.4
dapat dadayain na yan
01:20.4
and tatanggalin na siya.
01:21.5
Kung hindi lang pinigilan ni Digong.
01:23.8
So dapat magpasalamat kayo
01:25.3
kasi kung hindi dahil kay Digong,
01:28.6
nadaya na kayo ni middle of her term,
01:32.7
matatanggal si Lenny,
01:36.1
So dapat magpasalamat daw ang pinks
01:40.0
At kumampi dito sa laban na ito sa kanya.
01:44.2
but isn't that kind of true?
01:45.9
I mean, I know of course.
01:47.3
Narinig ko din yan.
01:49.3
Because Digong could have leaned on
01:51.9
during yung election tribunal issue na yan.
01:54.8
And all of us were,
01:56.2
well, I was not surprised.
01:57.3
I think that's where I realized,
01:58.5
Digong really doesn't like BBM.
02:00.1
Because I don't think he lifted a finger at all.
02:04.3
humiliating yung talo ni BBM.
02:06.3
At ang laki ng ginastos niya,
02:07.5
200 million, 300 million.
02:08.9
So I think may bad blood na dapat nun eh.
02:12.6
maybe BBM is not the one holding the grudge.
02:14.8
But clearly Digong was not gonna lift a finger.
02:19.6
di ba in the previous episode,
02:20.8
we talked about Basta.
02:21.7
Remember, isa sa mga speech ni Basta was,
02:24.2
yung ama niyo, di ba?
02:25.8
My father buried Marcos Senor.
02:28.5
So, parang he kind of owe us.
02:29.7
So, parang I think...
02:30.1
Walang utang na loob, parang gano'n.
02:31.3
Parang gano'n yan.
02:31.8
Parang we did that.
02:33.2
Wala na kaming utang na loob na
02:34.4
ililigtas ka pa namin dun sa issue ni Lenny, di ba?
02:39.1
mukhang talo talaga si BBM noong 2016 kay Lenny, di ba?
02:41.8
In fact, tumahas pa yung numbers.
02:43.5
So, that's interesting.
02:44.7
So, Buljak TV is now,
02:47.3
she's not trying to reach out to me.
02:50.8
Kaya nilagyan ko.
02:52.1
Wala naman, wala naman.
02:53.9
Pero mabait siya ngayon sa mga,
02:55.4
mas mabait siya sa mga pinks at sa mga yellow.
02:58.5
So, kasi talagang sobrang personal na yung
03:01.5
ngaway nila ni First Lady.
03:03.4
And kaya galit na galit siya.
03:05.2
So, parang nagahanap ng kakampena.
03:07.1
Dapat magalit kayo.
03:08.2
Magalit kayo dyan sa mga nakaupo ngayon.
03:11.5
Kumbaga, kasi ano eh.
03:13.0
If they want to parang magkaroon ng revolution
03:17.6
or stand up against the government,
03:20.4
they need numbers, di ba?
03:21.6
So, another big na block is yung
03:25.0
the block supporting Lenny.
03:27.4
Na parang gano'n nalang.
03:28.5
And parang naisip ko lang,
03:30.1
yung galit or yung ines ng mga pinks
03:34.2
at sa yellow, sa mga Marcotes,
03:36.3
that dates back doon sa time ng tatay.
03:39.8
Yung galit nila doon,
03:41.0
which was 40 years ago.
03:43.2
Yung galit ng pinks at yellows kay Ligong
03:46.2
was only 2 years ago, 3 years ago.
03:49.3
So, parang anong mas matimbang doon?
03:55.2
Yung mga araw-araw na pangano kay Ligong.
03:58.5
Denny and all that.
03:59.8
So, I find it funny lang na ngayon,
04:02.5
nililigawan na itong mga pinks
04:04.6
para mag-side sa kanila.
04:06.7
Ito namang mga Marcotes, di ba?
04:08.6
Matagal ng usapan.
04:09.8
Part of the government.
04:11.0
Pinapasok sa gobyerno.
04:12.4
Mga dating kay Pinoy, dating kay ano.
04:14.9
So, magkaibang style ng panliligaw.
04:18.4
Pero I don't know if it's working.
04:19.7
Ano ba ang sentimento, Richard?
04:22.2
Di ba tinanong ko sa iyo?
04:24.5
Well, I'm not in touch
04:25.8
because I'm kind of out of the...
04:27.8
I can't actually...
04:28.3
I can't actually tell more about...
04:33.1
Ayun na naman tayo.
04:34.2
Kaya nga ako na ba...
04:35.4
Hindi nga ako iniinvita sa mga events.
04:37.7
Sinasabi ko parati kay Ronald.
04:38.9
Parang parati tayo iniinvita.
04:42.0
parang ikaw yadang kasama.
04:46.3
Ayaw na nila iniinvitain si Ronald.
04:48.2
bakit parati ka naman kay Christian Esguerra?
04:50.5
Dapat na-cancel lang.
04:52.0
Mukhang hindi eh.
04:52.8
Mukhang sobrang suspicious sila kay Ronald.
04:56.3
Si Richard kasama mo.
04:57.8
May mga plano naman kayong ano eh.
05:01.0
no, actually I'm not.
05:03.0
I don't know if you watched...
05:04.3
Well, actually you confirmed.
05:05.6
So, I'm not gonna pretend.
05:06.8
Hindi ba parang napanood mo yung
05:08.7
ano namin ni Ronald?
05:09.9
I was actually pleasantly surprised
05:11.8
when Ronald said...
05:13.2
And for the first time,
05:14.2
nakita ko Ronald openly
05:15.3
questioned my thesis.
05:16.7
Like, actually hindi.
05:17.8
May ginagawa sila.
05:20.9
I was pleasantly surprised.
05:22.0
I was not like bitter,
05:23.1
mali ako or ganun.
05:24.1
No, like, okay, interesting.
05:25.8
Oo, habang wala ka,
05:27.8
bento ka sa Japan.
05:29.2
Nag-shinjuku-shinjuku.
05:30.9
Actually, may meeting sila dito.
05:32.3
So, may San Juan,
05:33.1
may ganito, ganyan-ganyan.
05:34.2
So, it looks like
05:35.4
there are movements.
05:37.2
And base sa service,
05:38.2
BAM has a good chance
05:39.8
to make it to the 2025.
05:42.0
Even Kiko has a good chance.
05:44.3
I think Lenny is a very sure in,
05:46.5
sa local government level
05:47.8
and pretty good chance
05:49.0
also at the national level.
05:50.6
And we don't know.
05:51.2
Many surprising good things
05:52.3
could happen for the opposition.
05:55.1
parang sinuwerte din sila.
05:57.8
I'll be honest about it.
05:58.9
this unit team conflagration,
06:04.6
If this were really up to
06:06.8
I think they could have
06:07.5
completely controlled this
06:09.0
until 2026, 2027.
06:11.9
you don't scratch me,
06:13.4
I don't scratch you back.
06:14.8
And then we'll come up
06:15.4
with something later on.
06:16.6
And nagpapagulo lang naman talaga
06:18.8
And Digong is a wild card.
06:21.4
As we had discussed
06:22.1
in previous episode.
06:23.4
So, if there are people
06:24.7
in the opposition
06:25.8
hindi, malian si Richard.
06:26.9
Masyado siyang etosera.
06:27.8
Kaya, tignan mo ngayon.
06:29.0
Things are looked...
06:30.4
I'm not sure about that
06:31.3
because this was not inevitable.
06:33.1
And this is really
06:33.7
a wild card situation.
06:39.0
are saying the unit team
06:41.3
there's still this tendency
06:43.5
Digong is just a wild card.
06:47.4
so, huwag natin pansinin.
06:49.9
at the end of the day,
06:50.5
the unit team could still
06:53.0
what we're saying is more
06:54.8
online blog thing
06:57.0
when they talk about
06:59.6
that the unit team
07:00.1
will hold it together.
07:02.3
I was beginning to doubt
07:04.3
baka tama nga si Ronald.
07:09.1
ayan na naman si BBM.
07:10.2
Unit team is intact.
07:19.2
Ronald is very skeptical.
07:21.5
knows a thing about politics.
07:23.4
Good Machiavellian politics.
07:27.3
plays her card well,
07:28.5
I think she can hold
07:29.5
the unit team together
07:33.3
siya na yung reyna.
07:34.7
it's really up to him.
07:36.6
I don't see any...
07:38.4
Doon ako doubtful eh.
07:40.0
I don't see any path
07:41.2
forward for the unit team
07:43.3
Sara being endorsed
07:47.9
yung mangyari yun.
07:49.1
if Sara becomes president
07:53.5
babalikan niya lahat eh.
07:55.8
merong ganong ano eh.
07:57.3
yun ang di ko pa rin mag-get
07:58.4
sa nangyayari ngayon
08:02.1
baka once she gets into power,
08:04.1
what will hold her back
08:07.5
gantihan yung mga,
08:11.6
or kung kanino man.
08:12.4
Or some of the other people.
08:14.4
But I don't think
08:17.7
BBM will be the only one
08:23.0
maybe even with the rest,
08:24.1
they'll patch it up.
08:25.4
alam mo naman sa Philippines.
08:26.7
Sabi mo nga nung,
08:27.3
yung sa first episode natin,
08:29.1
biglang nandun na sa kabila.
08:31.1
these are politikos, bro.
08:32.9
These are politikos.
08:34.3
I won't be surprised.
08:35.8
I'm still confident
08:37.0
na mas tama ako kay Ronald.
08:43.9
of convergence of interest
08:48.2
than the temptation
08:49.0
of going for broke.
08:50.4
maybe Tatay Digong
08:51.3
wants to go all the way.
08:54.5
things could be very different
08:55.7
and in favor of Sara.
08:57.3
Unless Sara's number
08:59.1
dramatically collapsed
09:00.6
and then dramatically
09:01.6
nag-increase si Romaldes
09:04.7
continues with his current trendline
09:06.7
because he went from 11%
09:10.7
if you give it a one year,
09:11.5
I won't be surprised.
09:12.2
Rafi will be 30% to 40%.
09:15.3
Rafi Tulfo for me
09:16.3
is the wild card,
09:17.1
other wild card here
09:18.2
because Rafi Tulfo,
09:20.8
good understanding
09:22.5
with President BPM.
09:23.8
one wild situation
09:24.8
you can imagine is
09:27.3
if Tulfo falls apart,
09:30.3
as their unity candidate.
09:34.4
I think both Rafi Tulfo
09:35.5
wants to be out of this thing
09:36.9
kasi I think Rafi's smart enough
09:39.1
ayoko makisausaw dyan,
09:40.1
I have my own thing,
09:41.3
let's see later on.
09:42.3
And he's been already a target.
09:44.2
ang daming attack kay Tulfo
09:45.2
since naging number two
09:50.5
there's that aspect.
09:51.6
As long as Sara's
09:52.6
number one sa surveys,
09:54.1
way ahead of any other
09:56.9
ruling coalition,
09:58.4
and then you have
10:02.5
There's still a lot of
10:04.3
to hold it together
10:05.0
and then just try to ignore
10:09.1
alagahan nyo na lang yan.
10:10.5
essentially that's what
10:11.1
BBM's strategy was.
10:13.6
everything I said here,
10:14.9
will go out of the window
10:18.2
warrant of arrest
10:19.6
and then Sara will have
10:21.2
to make a decision.
10:22.1
I think yung warrant,
10:23.4
that's a given eh.
10:25.0
wala akong question na,
10:26.0
I think the warrant
10:28.5
ang worried about ako.
10:30.3
Paano yung pag-arresto
10:32.9
It's not a given.
10:33.9
I think we may agree
10:35.3
with Senator Tulfo
10:41.2
will act upon it?
10:42.7
diba ang style ni BBM?
10:48.8
On the other hand,
10:49.4
we're not gonna lift a finger.
10:50.5
Parang having it both ways.
10:53.1
yung other argument ko
10:58.1
na the bardagulan
10:59.0
is getting crazy.
11:03.2
this is manageable.
11:05.5
Sara and BBM saying,
11:07.8
di mo control yung tatay mo,
11:08.8
kayaan mo na lang siya.
11:10.8
pasensya mo yung tatay ka,
11:14.1
Pero in an ICC situation,
11:15.9
when BBM wants to impress
11:18.1
and this is where actually
11:18.9
a weird argument came from,
11:20.2
a very interesting argument.
11:21.7
Tignan mo yung interview ko
11:22.4
with Atty. Robin Carranza,
11:23.8
who knows a thing or two
11:26.8
Ang argument naman
11:28.1
ni Robin Carranza,
11:33.7
to cooperate with ICC
11:34.8
because the US itself
11:36.3
doesn't cooperate
11:36.9
with ICC and ICJ.
11:38.5
But I expect the EU
11:40.0
and other Western countries
11:44.2
to go with the ICC decisions.
11:46.6
some interesting also,
11:48.4
I won't say divisions,
11:50.7
Do you get what I'm saying?
11:51.2
Like I'm bringing it
11:51.8
to the next level
11:52.6
because at the end of the day,
11:53.4
this is about Project Marcos
11:58.7
Because this is about Sandro.
11:59.9
This is about the next generation.
12:01.2
So ang daming mga moving parts,
12:03.1
ang daming mga variables, Roy.
12:04.5
Kaya nga sabi ko,
12:05.2
it would be foolish
12:05.8
for any of us to say
12:07.8
na ito yung mangyari
12:09.2
At first, tama ka yung
12:11.8
the next generation rehab.
12:13.1
Pero that was before
12:15.9
So after the Davao rally,
12:17.8
this becomes more personal.
12:20.1
baka gigil na gigil na
12:21.8
yung mga nandun sa ano.
12:24.7
kung hindi if Davao
12:25.7
didn't happen na rally,
12:26.8
baka possible pa na gano'n.
12:29.7
Yung sa opposition din,
12:30.9
I want to say din na
12:31.9
hindi naman totoo
12:33.0
na walang ginagawa
12:34.3
or naka nanonood lang
12:36.7
Kasi very active naman
12:39.6
yung kanyang investigations
12:42.4
kay si former Senator Trillianes.
12:45.5
Just to be clear,
12:46.1
sorry, I have to cut you there.
12:47.2
I'm not referring,
12:49.3
I'm talking about
12:50.2
the poor liberal party,
12:52.8
I would even say that
12:56.8
doing a great job.
12:57.7
Franz Castro, Riza.
12:58.9
But obviously, no,
12:59.8
Riza is not representative.
13:01.5
I mean, she's a progressive, right?
13:03.3
I'm talking about
13:03.8
the liberal opposition,
13:04.9
not the progress.
13:05.8
I think Franz Castro and Riza
13:06.9
are doing a fantastic job.
13:08.2
And then you have
13:08.6
the interesting case
13:09.3
of Leyla de Lima, right?
13:11.5
Hindi, siya yung mga pinks,
13:12.8
Hindi pa na pag-uusapan natin
13:14.1
na pinks cannot fully embrace
13:15.8
Senator Riza, di ba?
13:17.7
To lead the opposition.
13:19.0
Parang may ano pa rin na gano'n,
13:22.7
Hanggang ngayon ba,
13:23.9
Parang they're still
13:24.9
waiting for Lenny,
13:26.0
they still want Lenny
13:28.6
Kaya they cannot accept
13:32.0
like Senator Riza,
13:33.6
which siya yung highest rank ngayon.
13:36.5
Pero may ginagawa naman,
13:37.7
si former Senator Leyla de Lima,
13:41.1
in pursuing yung mga
13:43.3
against the Dutertes.
13:45.3
So hindi naman ano...
13:46.7
Parang tanong ko nga, Richard,
13:50.0
yung mga kakamping,
13:51.1
the kakamping movement,
13:52.3
how should they...
13:54.8
What should they do?
13:56.0
Dito sa sitwasyon na to,
13:57.3
nag-aaway na yung
13:58.1
dati nilang kalaban,
13:59.6
should they just ignore?
14:01.6
Should they just...
14:02.3
Should they pick aside?
14:04.3
Or should they just focus
14:06.7
Paano nga bang...
14:08.0
What's the best way to...
14:08.8
To all of the above, right?
14:10.9
I think it's very important
14:11.8
na magkaroon din ng rally
14:12.8
yung totoong opposition
14:13.6
to remind everyone
14:14.6
that they're still existing.
14:16.0
And in that rally,
14:16.8
they have to do the three
14:17.5
following things.
14:18.3
I already laid this out
14:20.4
pinag-isipan ko na mabuti yan.
14:21.8
Hindi lang ako...
14:22.3
Hindi ako hater or whatever,
14:24.6
I think you have to be
14:28.1
They do not agree
14:28.7
with the chacha moves
14:30.3
but they also do not agree
14:31.2
with the secession moves
14:33.6
And they want ICC to come in.
14:37.7
and that three points.
14:38.6
Just three points.
14:39.4
I'm not gonna come with 10 to...
14:40.5
Just three points.
14:41.9
And with doing that,
14:43.7
they're essentially
14:44.4
carving out their own
14:45.5
identity and policy position.
14:48.1
Now, behind the scenes,
14:50.3
interesting dynamics.
14:56.1
kasi this will go to
14:57.1
our fourth episode.
14:57.9
That was my last interview
14:58.7
on CNN Philippines
14:59.6
with Pia Hondiveros and all.
15:01.7
It was exactly this topic.
15:03.3
I said opposition
15:04.0
has to be intersectional,
15:05.7
but has to carve out
15:08.5
going to the next episode.
15:09.8
it will be boxed out
15:10.8
because we're gonna talk
15:11.6
about basketball too, right?
15:13.0
So I use the metaphor
15:14.0
of getting boxed out.
15:15.5
Kasi di ba usually,
15:17.3
dalawa yung superstar
15:18.3
sa dalawang team.
15:19.3
Pero may iba rin na
15:21.5
there's a Kobe Bryant
15:22.2
but there's a Shaquille O'Neal.
15:23.5
But if you just leave it
15:24.8
and, I don't know,
15:25.3
Lebron James back in the day,
15:29.1
maging completely
15:29.8
boxed out ka na, di ba?
15:31.1
Parang you're hoping na
15:33.0
mag-endure sila and all.
15:35.1
No, but you have to
15:36.7
at some point and say,
15:37.4
oh, magaling din ako ah.
15:39.3
Shaquille O'Neal in the house
15:41.2
Maybe Shaquille is a
15:42.7
But think of someone
15:43.8
who's just below.
15:44.8
Like if Kobe is like
15:47.8
who was like 90 or 88.
15:49.5
Do you get what I'm saying?
15:52.1
carve out the space
15:54.2
tactically behind
15:55.8
since they have to
15:56.4
do their strategy.
15:57.9
So, there has to be a,
15:59.6
war of positioning.
16:01.5
may positioning sila dyan.
16:03.0
And at the same time,
16:03.6
prepare for the war of maneuver
16:05.6
winning the elections next year.
16:07.1
So, this is a very
16:07.8
unique strategy approach
16:10.8
I think Ronald Llamas
16:11.8
is more optimistic than me.
16:14.7
I'm not optimistic.
16:17.5
stronger messaging
16:19.6
it's been a while
16:21.1
since I did a vlog
16:22.2
on some big thing
16:23.2
done by the opposition.
16:28.7
But, those are individuals.
16:30.9
nung Christmas party
16:31.7
na nagsama silang lahat
16:37.5
that was a big, big one.
16:39.3
I'm quite religious.
16:40.2
So, I don't want to make comments
16:41.0
on Christmas and politics.
16:42.2
I don't want to mix the two.
16:43.9
out of religious regions,
16:45.1
I know this comes strange.
16:46.4
I didn't talk more about,
16:47.7
I didn't want to talk about it
16:49.7
it's a spirit of Christmas
16:51.3
I'm just going to respect it
16:52.4
and not talk about it.
16:57.0
those kinds of pictures
17:01.5
that's where I come from.
17:02.5
Do you see where I'm coming from?
17:05.1
hey, andito kami,
17:06.0
may position din kami.
17:08.1
ano na pa-importante.
17:09.2
But, just to be clear na
17:11.4
ang nangyari ngayon is,
17:13.0
oh, saan kayo tatay ah?
17:15.3
So, parang hindi ka player.
17:17.8
May tanong ako, Richard, ah.
17:19.2
Kasi with all the
17:19.9
realignments happening now,
17:22.2
parang nakikita ko,
17:28.7
Third party that is
17:31.4
leaning to one side
17:35.0
third party in like,
17:36.7
third party na na?
17:39.7
Dahil nahati yung
17:46.9
ang nagiging parang
17:48.9
na hindi na sila yung
17:51.3
which is yung DDS.
17:52.4
Parang ganun ba yung
17:54.2
So, yung Pinks ba,
17:55.9
could Pinks play the role
18:05.2
but the two major
18:06.0
gradations in Pinks is
18:07.9
versus Never Duterte.
18:11.7
stronger force right now
18:12.7
than Never Marcos,
18:13.7
but the Never Marcos
18:15.0
ones are still powerful,
18:16.4
where they are, right?
18:17.2
You can easily find
18:17.9
certain news outlets
18:19.6
and maingay sila.
18:21.3
they make snidey comments
18:23.8
when I say something
18:25.4
and take it out of context.
18:27.1
I had a piece about,
18:28.5
why Marcos is turning out
18:29.6
more reformists and all.
18:30.8
They twist it out of context.
18:32.1
some crazy leftist people,
18:35.0
who also have their own,
18:44.0
is Never Duterte,
18:45.8
I can't feel confident.
18:47.2
But can they produce
18:48.2
the next generation leaders
18:49.3
or can they convince
18:52.0
the titas and titos
18:52.9
of the opposition movement
18:56.5
you have some people
18:59.2
it's time to really
19:00.2
side with Marcos na.
19:01.4
Kasi the greater threat
19:04.2
He's already calling
19:11.9
that coming from.
19:13.7
before making that move
19:14.8
for tactical reasons,
19:20.6
unayin mo na natin
19:22.6
let's see what we do
19:24.9
BBM is not a threat,
19:28.8
hindi pwede na ano lang
19:30.2
sidekick lang kayo.
19:31.0
You have to have your own.
19:33.5
they're the small third,
19:35.5
If you read the Chinese
19:37.0
Romance of Three Kingdoms,
19:38.5
it was not between
19:39.5
three equally sized
19:43.4
and a smaller one,
19:45.6
they're the smaller party
19:47.8
but I think if they play
19:48.7
their cards well,
19:49.5
parang geopolitics yan,
19:53.1
a better side of history.
19:55.0
You can be kingmaker,
19:59.8
mas less pressure.
20:00.2
Or you can make your own
20:03.5
mas less pressure
20:06.3
to become the party
20:09.4
o-oppose lang lahat.
20:19.1
yung new generations nyo.
20:20.6
Hindi mo kailangan
20:21.2
involved sa lahat
20:24.8
sa ang side ka pipili.
20:26.5
And baka yun nga,
20:32.2
Yung voting block
20:32.9
ng pinks malaki talaga.
20:33.9
Ulitin ko yung sinasabi ko,
20:41.3
if you really want
20:42.1
na isulong yung mga,
20:43.6
yung mga ideology
20:47.1
you need more people
20:49.8
who gets elected,
20:50.6
because of kakamping.
20:57.3
doon na sinisimula
20:59.7
Doon nila simulan siguro.
21:01.6
Basta ang position ko,
21:04.3
Find a third way.
21:05.8
That's essentially my question.
21:07.8
sabihin na si Richard,
21:08.7
anong alam mo sa politics?
21:15.4
maybe they're more right than me.
21:19.4
in strategic analysis
21:20.4
but tactical analysis
21:21.6
kaya nga kinukuha ko
21:22.4
si Ronald parate.
21:24.3
tactical experience.
21:25.4
Siya ako wala eh.
21:26.8
I'm humble enough
21:27.4
to recognize my limitations.
21:28.7
But big strategic questions,
21:32.1
I think medyo okay tayo.
21:35.3
I think that sets the tone
21:36.5
for our next topic
21:37.8
because we wanna also talk about
21:39.4
the information environment
21:41.3
and the entertainment environment
21:46.0
kakamping only thing
21:47.3
is about politics every day.
21:49.0
they're human beings.
21:49.7
They're looking at
21:50.6
They get their information
21:52.3
But the media industry
21:53.1
is also going through
21:57.1
pag-usapan natin yung
21:58.5
ex-CNN Philippines
22:00.7
and what awaits us
22:02.8
information environment
22:03.7
and kilas Pilipinas,
22:06.3
other interesting stuff.
22:07.6
Thank you so much
22:09.2
for the fantastic
22:12.1
thank you for those questions.
22:14.7
naisip ko naman siya.
22:16.1
ni-jerk na hater lang.
22:17.6
Inisip ko talaga siya
22:19.4
But I'm more than
22:20.1
happy to be corrected
22:22.0
things are better
22:22.6
even than I think.
