00:34.5
Mr. President, I wish to co-sponsor this bill as a support to increase
00:39.9
the minimum wage as a starting point leading to a living wage.
00:45.0
Naniniwala po ako na mismong ganitong uri na mga panukalang batas
00:49.2
ang dapat tutukan ng lehislatura, parehong Senado at House of Representatives.
00:54.5
After all, this is precisely the mandate of our 1987 Constitution,
01:00.0
Article 13, Section 1, declares that
01:02.7
the Congress shall give a highest priority to the enactment of measures
01:07.0
that protect and enhance the right of all the people to human dignity,
01:11.9
reduce social, economic, and political inequalities,
01:15.4
and remove cultural inequities by equitably diffusing wealth
01:20.3
and political power for the common good.
01:24.3
Pagpapabuti sa kapakanan ng karaniwang Pilipino ang tanging rason kung bakit tayo narito.
01:30.0
Kasabay po nito, dapat rin nating i-considera ang mas malawak pang suporta ng gobyerno sa MSMEs.
01:38.8
Ito ang mga dapat nating inaaral at tinatrabaho, hindi ang pekeng PI at kwestyonabling chacha.
01:46.2
Salamat ka ayaw, Mr. President.
01:48.0
Maraming salamat, Senator.
01:49.3
Thank you, Mr. President.
01:50.1
Last but not the least to co-sponsor the measure is the distinguished lady from
Taguig and Pateros,
01:54.7
no other than our resident athlete, Mr. President, Senator Pia Cayetano.
02:00.0
May she be recognized, Mr. President.
02:00.7
Our distinguished colleague, Senator Pia Cayetano, the representative of Taguig-Pateros,
02:05.3
and the Republic of the Philippines is recognized.
02:07.7
Thank you, Mr. President.
02:09.4
Mr. President, just a very short co-sponsorship speech.
02:13.3
Mr. President, as the Senate Committee Chair of the Committee on Sustainable Development,
02:18.3
Goals, Innovation, and Futures Thinking, we talk about sustainable development.
02:23.1
We broadcast to the world, we show pictures of our beautiful landscape, seascape,
02:29.7
and, of course, the picture of modernization.
02:32.7
But as they say, Mr. President, you can only determine truly how advanced or how developed a country is
02:39.5
when you look at how they treat the most vulnerable in their society.
02:44.4
So when we look at families who cannot even feed their children three meals a day,
02:49.2
who struggle to put literally a roof over their head where they live in shanties,
02:54.1
they have to, they live, Mr. President, in these worn tarps that are used during political campaigns.
03:00.2
After the campaign, you'll see na bubong na yan ng mga bahay,
03:04.3
pader na yan ng kanilang barong-barong.
03:08.5
This is how millions of people live in the Philippines, Mr. President.
03:12.4
So when we take time dealing with political issues,
03:20.1
it takes time away from dealing with the poorest of the poor who need our support to live a decent life.
03:25.4
Mr. President, in our show, Kayatano in Action with Boya,
03:29.7
we often tackle problems that include marital problems,
03:35.4
nagbubugbogan na asawa, utang, minsan utang ng nanay sa anak,
03:39.9
na hindi na nag-usap ang nanay at anak for three years dahil sa utang,
03:43.8
couples who separate dahil sa whatever conflict they have.
03:49.1
Ninety-nine percent, Mr. President, the root of their problem is poverty.
03:55.5
May daycare teacher na sinumbong ang isang nanay dahil hindi na pinapapasok,
03:59.5
pinapasok sa daycare ang kanyang anak.
04:02.9
And the reason is, sobra siyang nahihiya dahil wala siyang pagkain na mabigay sa anak niya.
04:07.9
Papasok daw yung anak niya ng gutom.
04:09.9
So sa kahihiyan, hindi niya lang niya pinapapasok yung anak niya, Mr. President.
04:14.3
So all of these legal issues can be attributed to people having decent jobs and decent wages.
04:25.0
And so I joined the Senate President and our colleagues
04:28.3
in co-sponsoring this very important measure.
04:31.6
It may not seem like a lot because it is really not that much,
04:36.4
but I believe it paves the way in us recognizing that this cannot continue as it is.
04:43.6
When His Honor, the Senate President, mentioned BARM,
04:47.0
we do need to look into this and see how we can single out those areas that need more support
04:55.3
because it is just really how it is.
04:58.3
I mean, when I traveled, and His Honor, the Senate President, and I are walking mates during our official trips,
05:06.3
I've talked to our embassies and our host countries about their poverties in their countries.
05:14.1
Their poverties, at least the countries I've visited, are different from our poverties.
05:19.4
May bahay pa rin silang nauuwian.
05:21.8
Pag malamig, bakang pinag-aawayan nila ng konti, yung heater hindi ganun kainit.
05:26.6
Pero may trabaho naman.
05:28.3
Yung trabaho siguro nila, kung 600 euro a month na maliit sa Europe,
05:33.9
pero 600 times 60, that's 36,000 pesos.
05:38.8
And here, we're talking about, hindi pa umaabot sa 15,000 pesos, Mr. President.
05:44.0
So, it's incomparable, but it is not acceptable that we continue this way.
05:49.2
So, I thank His Honor for prioritizing this measure.
05:51.7
And as I said, I join our colleagues in supporting this measure.
05:58.3
I want to make this a more comprehensive sponsorship speech for the record
06:01.6
because I just really like to tie it into all the SDGs that are affected by this.
06:06.6
Health, education.
06:08.1
Hindi mo nga mapaaral yung anak mo, dahil wala kang pambaon man lang para may makain siya.
06:12.5
And you can't even begin to go to get health care dahil karamihan sa kanila,
06:18.0
alam nila na kahit pa paano may aambag.
06:20.1
Dahil yung sinasabing no balance billing, hindi naman actually 100% accurate.
06:24.5
Meron din naman i-aabono, depende rin sa sakit.
06:28.3
So, tama sila na dibali na lang, wala na lang silang aasahan.
06:32.2
And that is not how we want our Filipino people to feel.
06:35.5
So, again, my full support for this measure, Mr. President. Thank you.
06:38.2
Thank you very much, my dear colleague, my constant walking companion.
06:45.5
Thank you, Mr. President.
06:47.4
And it's true, Mr. President, that it's about time that we need to act on this very important piece of legislation.
06:55.4
So, again, we thank you, Mr. President.
06:58.3
Our leader, Senator Zubiri, and our chairperson, Senator Jingoy Estrada of the Senate Committee on Labor.
07:06.6
Mr. President, to allow our colleagues to further study the measure,
07:11.2
I move that we suspend consideration of Senate Bill No. 2534 under Committee Report No. 190.
07:17.3
So moved, Mr. President.
07:18.0
There have been no objection. Motion is approved.
07:20.0
Mr. President, this juncture, I move that we resume consideration of Senate Bill No. 2386
07:25.6
under Committee Report No. 99.
07:28.3
It still pertains to the Real Property Valuation and Assessment Act.
07:32.0
So moved, Mr. President.
07:32.9
Yes, there have been no objection. Motion is approved.
07:35.2
Mr. President, the parliamentary status of the measure is that we are now in the period of interpolations and debate.
07:41.7
And so with that, I move that we resume the period of interpolations
07:47.4
and recognize the sponsor of the measure, Senator Sherwin Gatchelian,
07:52.4
and to interpolate, our Deputy Majority Leader, Senator Mark Villar.
07:57.2
So moved, Mr. President.
07:58.3
Distinguished colleague, the Chairperson of the Committee on Ways and Means,
08:01.1
Senator, the very hardworking Senator, Sherwin Gatchelian,
08:04.9
and to interpolate, the equally hardworking Deputy Majority Leader, Senator Mark Villar.
08:13.0
Thank you, Mr. President.
08:14.1
With the consent of the good sponsor, may I be allowed to proceed with my interpolation?
08:17.6
Yes, more than willingly, Mr. President.
08:19.6
Yes, I just have a few questions relating to my work as a former DPWH Secretary
08:24.0
under the Bill Billionaire Act.
08:28.3
The bill then, which is now continuing under the Build Better, More program of this administration.
08:33.8
My question is, in Section 2 of the Committee Report, in Item B,
08:37.2
provides in the Declaration Policy that the bill is for the adoption of market value
08:41.6
as the single real property valuation base for the assessment of real property-related taxes in the country
08:46.9
and for the valuation of real property for various transactions by all government agencies.
08:51.2
Is this correct, Mr. President?
08:52.6
Yes, Mr. President. It's correct, Mr. President.
08:55.1
And in proposing as part of the policy direction of the bill,
08:58.3
it's provided in Section 36, Letter C, Sub-Item 3,
09:02.0
that the provisions of Section 567 of the Republic Act No. 10752
09:07.1
are amended insofar as they are consistent with the provisions of this bill.
09:11.4
Is this correct, Mr. President?
09:12.9
Yes, Mr. President. It's correct.
09:15.7
As former Secretary of the DPWH, of course, I was tasked with the heavy responsibility
09:23.9
of settling various right-of-way issues,
09:27.4
acquisition problems,
09:28.3
that are governed by the Republic Act 10752,
09:32.3
which, while instrumental in facilitating the completion of several big-ticket projects,
09:38.3
there are still numerous concerns that remain to be resolved in right-of-way issues,
09:41.8
such as funding requirements and the reasonableness of the just compensation
09:45.7
to be paid to the owners whose real properties are affected by the government project.
09:50.4
In fact, the amendment of RA 10752 was actually proposed as a priority legislation
09:56.3
for this Congress in the previous legislation,
09:58.3
in the DEDAC meeting.
09:59.9
So may I ask the good sponsor what will now be the valuation
10:03.1
that the national government will offer to negotiate
10:05.6
for the right-of-way acquisition of the lands after the repeal of Section 5 of RA 10752?
10:12.2
Thank you, Mr. President.
10:13.7
Well, Mr. President, what the bill envisions is to have a uniform valuation for all the different agencies.
10:23.0
And based on our research,
10:26.5
there are about 23 different agencies,
10:30.0
conducts valuations
10:32.0
using different methods.
10:38.1
acquisition, generally, Mr. President,
10:41.3
the zonal valuation as well as
10:46.3
value of that locality.
10:48.8
So, in this particular case,
10:50.3
Mr. President, since we're harmonizing
10:52.0
and uniforming the valuation,
10:56.2
will now have a single valuation
10:58.0
for all the different agencies.
11:00.6
So, in short, the
11:01.7
expropriation will use this valuation, Mr. President.
11:04.3
Yes. So, thank you, Mr. President. So, the valuation
11:06.3
for the negotiated sale
11:08.2
will now be based on the fair market value
11:10.2
as stated in the subject bill
11:12.2
as approved by the... Yes, Mr. President. Correct.
11:14.3
Secretary of Finance, yes. Thank you,
11:16.2
Mr. President. And we see that since
11:18.2
the valuation is expected to increase,
11:20.2
the government may be able to avoid
11:21.9
the lengthy litigation to secure
11:24.0
the possession before the Court of Law.
11:26.0
My next question... Correct, Mr. President. Yes. My next question
11:28.0
is, Mr. President and good sponsor,
11:29.9
in the case that the landowner refuses
11:31.8
to negotiate, what will be the valuation
11:33.7
that the government needs to deposit
11:35.3
during the expropriation case to secure
11:37.8
a writ of possession since the bill
11:39.7
will partially amend Section 6 of RA
11:41.6
10752? Correct. But, Mr. President,
11:44.5
government typically uses...
11:47.8
for national government,
11:49.4
the expropriation proceedings vary
11:51.8
from local governments and national
11:53.9
government. In the national government,
11:55.7
they usually use the zonal valuation.
11:58.0
But the zonal valuation now will be
11:59.9
based on this fair market value
12:01.9
that will be formulated
12:05.9
government unit. So, in this
12:08.0
particular case, the
12:09.4
deposit will be based
12:15.4
the SMBs, Mr. President,
12:18.4
the Schedule of Market Values.
12:20.8
Thank you, Mr. President.
12:21.9
There may be a need to further
12:24.0
study the budgetary impact of the
12:26.0
partial repeal of Section 6 of RA
12:27.9
10752, considering
12:30.0
that the depositary requirements
12:31.8
for expropriation
12:35.6
in acquiring lands affected
12:37.7
by government projects may result
12:43.3
requirements of various national government
12:45.7
agencies. This will change the deposit
12:48.0
requirement for expropriation
12:49.7
cases from 100% of
12:51.9
BI or zonal value
12:57.9
The valuation will increase, then Congress must
12:59.8
be reminded that during the committee
13:01.7
deliberation of the budget of the DPWH,
13:04.2
we were informed regarding the
13:05.8
inadequacy of funds being given to facilitate
13:07.9
the right-of-way requirements of government.
13:10.9
The Congress must be ready
13:11.9
to provide additional appropriation
13:13.5
should the enactment
13:16.5
of the RPVADA result in the
13:17.8
increase of the just
13:19.9
compensation that the government needs to settle.
13:25.6
proposed budget of the DPWH for the
13:27.9
right-of-way payment was
13:31.9
If the RPVADA will result to the increase
13:33.9
in the compensation of the
13:35.9
project affected persons, the government
13:37.9
must again review the timeline for the
13:39.9
completion of the much needed
13:41.9
infrastructure as approved by the administration
13:43.9
as it may result in
13:45.9
difficulty in acquiring the right-of-way
13:49.9
May I ask the good sponsor, Mr. President,
13:53.9
and the DOTR were able to
13:55.9
comment on this concern?
13:57.9
Yes, Mr. President, the DPWH
14:01.9
or was present during the hearing, Mr. President.
14:03.9
But just to comment on the first
14:09.9
gentleman from Las Piñas,
14:13.9
expropriation proceedings,
14:15.9
the deposit is based on the
14:17.9
zonal valuation, I'm sure
14:19.9
the gentleman will know being
14:21.9
the former secretary of DPWH,
14:23.9
or the zonal valuation
14:25.9
or the fair market value.
14:29.9
if the landowner will not
14:33.9
whether zonal or fair market value
14:35.9
litigation will ensue.
14:37.9
And that process of litigation
14:39.9
can take many many
14:47.9
that litigation will also create
14:49.9
delays in the project, Mr. President.
14:51.9
And if you unpack
14:59.9
price that the landowner
15:03.9
And typically the price
15:05.9
is what he thinks
15:09.9
So this addresses
15:11.9
that potential delay
15:13.9
by coming up with a fair market
15:15.9
value that is based on
15:19.9
economic situation of that area.
15:21.9
So in other words,
15:23.9
it will not be arbitrary.
15:25.9
It will be based on
15:27.9
the latest transaction
15:31.9
And that transaction will be based
15:33.9
on, will be used to
15:35.9
determine the schedule of market value.
15:37.9
And when the schedule of market value
15:39.9
is determined, then
15:41.9
that is now what government
15:45.9
to purchase your land or
15:47.9
to make a deposit. So this bill
15:49.9
aims to eliminate the delays.
15:51.9
Because the delays is also very costly
15:53.9
for government, especially in big
15:55.9
ticket projects. Yes.
15:57.9
So I just hope that this addresses
15:59.9
this concern is addressed
16:01.9
because it does have an impact.
16:05.9
if in general the appraised
16:07.9
value is higher than the
16:09.9
zonal value. So if this is higher
16:11.9
and the budget is insufficient
16:15.9
make a payment so that we can
16:17.9
get rid of possession,
16:19.9
it might have an effect on the
16:23.9
of our government projects.
16:25.9
So I think that's just something that
16:31.9
sector of infrastructure
16:33.9
implementation. At the same time also,
16:35.9
if we were to get a
16:39.9
we would have to get it from a GFI.
16:41.9
And from my experience, the GFIs are already
16:45.9
with other, it takes time
16:47.9
to get that appraisal from the GFI.
16:49.9
Usually depending on the needs.
16:51.9
And usually there's a lot of cases
16:53.9
in any single project.
16:55.9
So based on that,
16:57.9
I hope we can come up with,
16:59.9
I will recommend some amendments
17:01.9
that might rectify
17:05.9
the situation so that
17:07.9
the effect on our infrastructure
17:11.9
if any, will be minimal.
17:15.9
we would welcome amendments
17:17.9
from the good gentleman
17:19.9
from Las Piñas being
17:21.9
an expert in infrastructure
17:23.9
as well as expropriation proceedings.
17:25.9
But just to go back on the difference
17:27.9
between the zonal
17:29.9
and the appraised value.
17:33.9
or the schedule of market values
17:35.9
will be based on what we call
17:37.9
the Philippine Valuation Standards
17:39.9
which is being used by appraisers.
17:41.9
The zonal valuation,
17:43.9
the schedule of market value
17:45.9
and the appraised value will be the same.
17:47.9
Because all of them are using
17:49.9
the same standards
17:51.9
as promulgated in the Philippine
17:53.9
Valuation Standards. So
17:55.9
in theory there should be no difference
17:57.9
between the schedule
17:59.9
of market value, the zonal valuation
18:01.9
and the appraised value.
18:03.9
So everything will be
18:05.9
the same in terms of valuing
18:09.9
Okay, thank you Mr. President.
18:11.9
And may we also request for
18:13.9
copies of the position papers
18:15.9
of the various agencies
18:17.9
so that we can also
18:19.9
study their comments regarding this
18:23.9
We'll furnish the
18:25.9
good gentleman the position papers.
18:27.9
That would be all Mr. President.
18:31.9
interpolation. I would like to thank
18:33.9
the good sponsor for his time
18:37.9
To reiterate, I would like to discuss some proposed
18:39.9
amendments to further improve the bill and
18:41.9
fine tune the bill at the appropriate time.
18:43.9
Thank you very much Mr. President.
18:45.9
We welcome any refinements and improvements
18:47.9
to the bill, especially coming from
18:51.9
secretary who's very experienced
18:53.9
in launching high
18:55.9
big ticket and very important
18:57.9
national infrastructure projects.
18:59.9
Thank you very much.
19:01.9
I thank the two gentlemen. It was a joy to listen to you both.
19:03.9
I learned a lot on your
19:07.9
Thank you to former
19:09.9
Secretary and now Senator Mark Villar
19:11.9
and of course our dear sponsor
19:15.9
answers to his questions.
19:17.9
Session suspended for now.
19:55.9
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