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JINGGOY ESTRADA AND DECRIMINALIZATION OF LIBEL BILL
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00:00.0
Alright, yan! Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang live stream
00:05.9
Mga kabatas natin, dito sa balita ng Inquirer.net
00:09.3
Dito sa yung title niya, Jingoy Estrada's Libel Bill
00:12.7
Jail time but fine up to 30,000 pesos
00:15.8
Medyo nalito ako dito
00:18.7
Bakit? Kasi nga, walang jail time pero fine lang
00:23.3
Ngayon mga kabatas natin, ang fine kasi pwede pa rin siyang criminal in nature
00:28.5
Okay? Ngayon, kapag decriminalization nga ng libel talaga
00:33.8
Ang pag-uusapan, tulad ng sinabi ko kanina
00:36.8
Okay? If it is about decriminalization of libel
00:40.4
It means it is not criminal in nature anymore
00:44.2
Kasi kapag ito mga kabatas natin, kapag na-fine ka
00:48.4
It still is a crime involving moral turpitude
00:54.5
Hindi nagbago
00:57.9
Ang nagbago lang mga kabatas natin, ay yung penalty
01:02.4
Hindi siya natanggal bilang isang criminal na kaso
01:08.5
Tignan natin, kasi dun sa dulo sasabihin niya
01:11.5
Yung revised penal code mag-provide ng venue for civil cases in relation to libel
01:17.3
May civil case na, na libel
01:20.3
Sinabi nga ng batas natin, mga kabatas natin
01:23.1
Na once you institute a criminal case
01:26.6
You also institute a criminal case
01:27.9
You also institute, together with it, the civil case
01:30.2
Unless, of course, you only wanted to file the civil case
01:34.3
Or the civil aspect of the case
01:36.5
O, tignan natin, mga kabatas natin, yung sinabi dito
01:39.1
Sabi niyang ganyan, nag-file siya ng bill to eliminate imprisonment
01:44.3
Kasi kung i-eliminate mo lang yung imprisonment as penalty, mga kabatas natin
01:48.6
Tatanggalin mo siya, criminal pa rin siya
01:51.6
So, this is not decriminalization of libel
01:55.9
It, however, is not criminalization of libel
01:57.9
However, recommends the imposition of up to 30,000 fine
02:02.2
Yung 30,000, kailangan din nating linawin
02:04.9
Kasi if you want to decriminalize it, it becomes civil indemnity
02:10.0
O a fine which is civil in nature and not criminal in nature
02:15.9
Ano ba yung fine na civil in nature?
02:20.2
Mga damages
02:20.8
Okay
02:23.4
Ngayon, in lodging Senate Bill 2521
02:25.9
The lawmaker noted that
02:27.9
That civil damages may serve as enough
02:31.0
Tignan nyo dito
02:32.0
Diba, civil damages
02:34.2
Kung civil damages yun, mga kabatas natin
02:36.9
It is not criminal in nature
02:39.2
Siguro nga, medyo mali-mali lang yung pagbuo dito sa
02:45.3
Balita sa Inquirer
02:48.4
Okay
02:49.4
Kasi nakakalito
02:50.7
Because if it is just civil damages
02:53.3
Mga kabatas natin
02:56.6
It is not criminal in nature
02:57.9
It is not criminal in nature anymore
02:58.8
Parang pag-administrative fine
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Naalala nyo yung sagutan namin ni Fabry
03:03.1
In relation to merely reckless driving
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It is an administrative fine
03:08.5
It is not criminal fine
03:12.3
It is not criminal in nature
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Kaya hindi ka nagkakaroon ng criminal record
03:16.1
Mga kabatas natin
03:17.1
Kapag ikaw
03:18.1
Ay pinagbayad ng isang administrative fine
03:21.8
Because of reckless driving only
03:24.4
Diba?
03:27.3
Ngayon, sabi nyo
03:27.9
May serve as enough penalty and deterrence to libel for those
03:32.1
Proven to have resorted to responsible reporting
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Sabi nyo
03:36.5
While it is right
03:38.4
It is right of individuals to be protected from irresponsible reporting
03:42.8
Or commentary imprisonment is not a just penalty for such
03:46.5
Sabi ni Estrada
03:48.9
Stressed in his proposal
03:50.3
Sinabi ko na rin naman yung punto ko dito, mga kabatas natin
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I'm fine with whichever
03:54.6
Pero sa ngayon, dahil yun ang meron tayo
03:57.9
E di yun
03:58.3
Criminal libel
04:00.8
Sabi niya
04:02.7
Civil damages may be enough penalty and deterrence
04:05.3
Pagtitignan mo kasi dito sa Pilipinas din, mga kabatas natin
04:08.2
At saka sa ibang bansa talaga
04:09.5
Yung defamation at saka yung libel
04:12.0
Many or most countries
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Have that as only civil
04:18.2
Civil suit lang
04:19.9
Dito sa Pilipinas, criminal yan
04:22.8
Okay?
04:24.4
Sabi niyang ganyan
04:25.1
Instead of jail time
04:26.3
Yung kasi ang nakalagay
04:27.3
Instead of jail time
04:27.9
Which varies from 6 months to 6 years in the existing rules
04:32.3
Estrada is proposing fines ranging from 10,000 to 30,000
04:36.9
Sabi niya
04:37.9
Of course, ito kasing fine na sinasabi niya, mga kabatas natin
04:41.9
Separate pa dito yung danios
04:44.1
O yung damages
04:44.9
Yung moral damages
04:46.2
Yung actual damages
04:47.6
Lahat ng damages na masasuffer mo
04:51.5
Separate pa yan
04:52.5
Itong fine lang na ito, mga kabatas natin
04:54.8
Sinasabi niya
04:55.6
It's civil fine
04:57.4
Civil damages
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Ibig sabihin, ito yung ibibigay ng korte
05:01.5
Na fine sa'yo
05:03.1
Kapag naging guilty ka
05:05.3
Okay?
05:06.4
He also suggested that the offense and penalty be applicable within 6 months of the libelous materials publication, airing, or exhibition
05:14.1
Sabi niyang ganyan
05:15.1
Dapat nga i-ano ito
05:16.9
Itong batas na ito
05:21.1
Dapat i-ayon sa prevailing jurisprudence
05:25.6
Kasi tignan niyo yung nangyayari sa sasabingan
05:27.4
Sa cyber libel ngayon
05:28.4
Diba?
05:29.8
Yung 15 years
05:31.4
Yung 12 years
05:32.2
Na pinag-uusapan na penalty
05:34.0
Na may sinabi rin yung Supreme Court
05:36.6
Na ngayon nga ang penalty
05:37.7
15 years
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Doon sa Tolentino
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Ngayon nagkaroon yung causing
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Yung causing
05:42.1
One year na lang
05:44.3
Yung prescription ng libel
05:46.2
Tapos mga kabatas natin
05:48.4
May mga lumalabas din
05:50.0
Na ang venue
05:52.0
Ng cyber libel
05:53.8
Ang venue ng cyber libel
05:56.2
Ay kahit saan
05:57.0
Kung saan damages yung nangyari
05:58.6
Kasi yun nga yung naglabas yung ano
06:01.2
Yung Supreme Court
06:02.7
Nung tungkol sa warrant of arrest
06:05.1
Sa libel
06:05.8
Pero meron din mga Supreme Court decisions
06:08.5
Like for example
06:10.0
Yung ano
06:11.1
Yung Makati
06:13.9
RTC
06:14.9
Diba?
06:17.0
Eh ang nakalagay doon
06:18.8
Dapat yung libel
06:20.4
Finafile lang doon sa residence ng tao
06:23.4
Dapat magkaroon ng clarifications
06:25.7
In relation to that
06:27.0
Kasi nga hindi nagja-jive
06:29.4
If libel is
06:31.3
Is not a new case
06:34.0
Then therefore
06:35.0
It should follow the existing rules
06:37.2
It should also follow
06:40.2
Existing jurisprudence
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Existing laws
06:43.0
Diba?
06:44.8
Kung hindi dapat sumunod yun
06:46.5
Kailangan i-overturn ng Supreme Court yun
06:48.6
Pero until it is not overturned
06:52.0
Ang mangyayari dyan
06:53.3
There will be confusion
06:54.3
Yun yung magiging problema natin
06:56.0
Okay?
06:57.0
Sabi niyang ganyan
06:57.9
The Senator further recommended
06:59.1
Replacing the current
07:00.1
Imprisonment penalty for reporters
07:01.8
Blah blah blah blah
07:02.8
Ito
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Papalitan lahat
07:08.9
Yan
07:09.3
Sabi niya
07:11.0
Estrada likewise wanted
07:12.4
A new provision
07:13.0
The revised penal code
07:14.0
To provide the venue
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Of civil actions
07:16.1
In libel cases
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Ang revised penal code kasi
07:21.3
Senator
07:22.7
Pero sa tingin ko
07:24.2
Baka mali kasi yung
07:25.1
Pagkakaintindi ng reporter dito eh
07:27.0
Babasahin ko yung bill ha
07:28.4
Kasi ito muna
07:29.1
Ito lang muna yung nabasa ko eh
07:30.6
Kapag civil cases na ito
07:33.0
Hindi na siya covered
07:34.1
Under the revised penal code
07:35.8
Kasi yung revised penal code
07:37.1
It is criminal law
07:38.3
Pag civil action
07:40.0
In libel cases
07:40.9
Siyempre pag civil yan
07:42.4
Eh hindi na
07:43.2
Hindi yan susunod sa ano
07:44.8
Hindi yan susunod doon
07:46.7
Sa revised penal code
07:47.9
Hindi yan may ilalagay
07:50.2
Sa revised penal code
07:52.1
Tatanggalin na siya doon
07:54.7
Tapos yung
07:57.0
Venue of
07:58.1
Civil action in libel cases
08:00.1
Kapag naging civil action dito
08:02.3
Itong libel cases
08:03.3
Automatic na mga kabatas natin
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Without
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Giving a specific
08:08.7
Ano
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Specific venue
08:11.1
For libel cases
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Dalawa ang pwedeng maging venue niyan
08:14.3
Kasi civil siya
08:16.1
Mga kabatas natin
08:16.9
Kaya nga hindi na natin
08:17.9
Kailangan magkaroon ng
08:19.1
Provision na ganyan
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Kasi nga kapag
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Civil in nature yung kaso
08:23.3
Dalawa lang ang pwedeng maging venue niya
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Yung unang una
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Yung residence
08:28.1
Nung taong nagkaso
08:29.9
O yung plaintiff
08:32.1
Pangalawa
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Yung residence
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Nung
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Respondent
08:37.3
O kaya defendant
08:39.1
Sorry
08:39.6
Yung defendant
08:40.2
Okay
08:42.1
So
08:42.9
Sinong pipili
08:44.2
Yung plaintiff
08:45.6
O yung nagkaso
08:46.6
So yun na yun
08:48.4
Mga kabatas natin
08:49.5
Yun yung ano dyan
08:52.4
Yun yung
08:53.5
Yun yung magiging venue niyan
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Hindi na kailangan
08:57.8
Maglagay ng provision
08:59.0
Kasi pag libel case
09:00.2
Eh sorry libel case
09:01.1
Pag civil cases
09:02.2
Ganun yun
09:02.7
Diba?
09:04.4
Ito may regard the files
09:05.9
Another bill to decriminalize libel
09:07.7
Ang dami na nilang nagfa-file
09:09.1
Pero hindi ko maintindihan
09:10.1
Kung bakit
09:10.6
Hindi pa nila
09:11.4
Naisusulong ito ng maayos
09:12.9
Tapos hindi rin nila
09:14.3
Naisusulong ng maayos
09:15.8
Yung mga ibang
09:17.2
Bills na
09:18.7
Gusto naman nilang gawin
09:20.2
Puro hearing hearing lang
09:22.6
Ewan ko ba?
09:24.7
Eh ang trabaho nyo man
09:25.5
Gumawa ng batas eh
09:26.6
If you want to make this law
09:27.6
Then make this law
09:28.4
Hearing hearing eh
09:31.3
Diba?
09:33.9
Sabi niya
09:34.2
Public officials can file complaints
09:35.6
In Manila
09:36.1
If their office is situated
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There or in courts
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Outside Manila
09:39.3
If their office is elsewhere
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Private individuals
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Meanwhile
09:42.5
Are required to file complaints
09:44.1
In the trial court
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Located in the area
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Where they resided
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At the time of the alleged libel
09:48.0
Ito marami na rin
09:49.8
Marami na rin
09:51.3
Jurisprudence
09:53.2
In relation to this
09:55.6
Meron nga yung ano
09:57.8
Yung Makati RTC na kaso
09:59.8
However
10:01.1
The system is often abused
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By subjects of news articles
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Causing unnecessary harassment
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And inconvenience
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To journalists
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And media organizations
10:08.3
They file suits
10:09.4
In distant locations
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Leading to unjust imprisonment
10:11.9
Or bail
10:12.4
Even if the cases
10:13.3
Are later dropped
10:14.4
Resolved or dismissed
10:15.4
Kasi ang tawag dito
10:18.4
Mga kabatas natin
10:19.8
Slap suit
10:21.8
Under this bill
10:24.8
Cases involving
10:25.5
Community journalists
10:26.4
Publications or broadcast stations
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Should be filed
10:29.1
In the regional trial court
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Of the province city
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Where their principal office
10:32.2
Or place of business
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Is located
10:34.6
Ay hindi maganda yan
10:35.9
Bakit ang masusunod
10:40.3
Kung saan yung nagkaso
10:41.6
Yung residents dapat
10:42.8
Hindi maganda ito
10:44.0
Ay hindi ako approved dito
10:45.3
Pag civil case na ito
10:47.4
Pag civil case na ito
10:48.9
Yung residents
10:50.3
Residents ng tao
10:51.4
Na magfafile ng kaso
10:52.7
O kaya residents
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Nung tao
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Na file ng kaso
10:55.5
Pinailan ng kaso
10:57.3
Ang mangyayari kasi dito
10:59.0
Bakit yung mga
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Kailangan i-file
11:02.3
Doon sa office
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Nang place of business
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Kung saan located
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So ibig sabihin
11:07.6
Pag ako
11:08.2
Kunwari
11:09.5
Tagamindanaw ako
11:10.7
Tapos nilabel ako
11:12.5
Nang isang
11:13.4
Malaking publication
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Dito sa Manila
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Para makapag-file ako
11:19.0
Pupunta pa ako
11:19.7
Dito sa Manila
11:20.6
E ang layo-layo nun
11:22.6
Ako na nga yung biktima
11:24.0
Ako pa yung
11:25.5
Magkakaroon ng
11:27.7
Burden
11:30.1
Na gumastos
11:31.8
Nang pagkalaki-laki
11:33.2
Para lang
11:33.9
Ipaglaban yung karapatan ko
11:35.7
Diba?
11:38.7
Kaya kailangan ayusin din ito
11:40.3
Anyway, yun lang mga kapatid natin
11:43.7
At syempre tulad ng laging sinasabi
11:45.4
Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
11:48.7
Dahil alam natin
11:49.7
Na natutulog ng mahimbing
11:50.9
Siya yung laging panalo
11:51.9
Paalam po pansamantala
11:55.5
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