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COMELEC CHAIRMAN GEORGE GARCIA, DECRIMINALIZED ANG LIBEL?
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00:01.0
Alright, yan. Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang livestream.
00:07.1
Mga kabatas natin, itong si Comelec Chairman Atty. George Garcia mga kabatas natin,
00:14.3
dito sa kanyang interview kay Kato Nying, may mga very interesting siyang declarations
00:21.0
in relation to libel or cyber libel.
00:26.0
Ngayon mga kabatas natin, whenever we speak of libel or cyber libel, we mean the same thing na.
00:33.9
Why? Because we already studied doon sa latest pronouncement ng Supreme Court na cyber libel is not a new crime.
00:43.3
Therefore mga kabatas natin, if we mention libel, it is also cyber libel
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because cyber libel mga kabatas natin, nagkaroon lang ng parang aggravating circumstances
00:56.0
which it was used using information and computer technology.
01:03.2
Okay? So mga kabatas natin, with that, papakinggan natin siya.
01:08.6
Tapos mga kabatas natin, isa sa mga intriguing pronouncements niya dito, sinabi niya decriminalizing libel
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kasi tinanong siya dito, yung parang, tinanong ni Kato Nying yung parang kaso ni Rafi Tulfo.
01:19.8
Okay? Although hindi binanggit si Rafi Tulfo dito, pero parang kaso ni Rafi Tulfo dyan.
01:26.0
Bibisitahin din natin yung finile ni Senator Jingoy Estrada nung January 22, 2024
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na decriminalization ng libel. Di umano at magko-comment ako mga kabatas natin
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and I also make suggestions on how to actually pass this bill. Okay?
01:45.1
Okay, dito na tayo sa juicy part agad mga kabatas natin.
01:47.7
So din yan po, pinaboboto po natin sila kahit sila ay nasa mga kulungan.
01:52.2
Opo, e paano po yung may final conviction ha?
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Meaning may final...
01:56.0
final decision na ng Korte Suprema, ang kaso ay libel.
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Hindi ba, Konyol, hindi ba nagdi-disqualify sa isang tao na magpa-exercise ng kanyang political rights?
02:08.3
Okay. So ito mga kabatas natin, Rafi Tulfo, Rafi Tulfo, no?
02:14.0
Political rights, of course. Political rights include the right to elect and be elected in office. Okay?
02:21.5
So klarong-klaro, yung tanong dito mga kabatas natin ni Kato Nying,
02:26.0
eh, final conviction ng libel. Ibig sabihin, parang yung kaso ni Rafi Tulfo at saka si Michael Guy.
02:34.0
Okay? Ah, let's go. Anong sagot? Anong sagot?
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Alam nyo kasi, Kato Nying, ang libel po kasi ay na-decriminalize ng ating kagalanggalang na Supreme Court.
02:43.0
Okay. I have to disagree with that. I'm sorry, Comilag Chairman.
02:49.3
Na-decriminalize daw ng ating kagalanggalang na Supreme Court.
02:53.8
Ah, siguro...
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So, I have to dissent on this one.
02:59.8
The Supreme Court doesn't have the capacity to decriminalize something
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because they are only allowed to interpret the law, not change it.
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Okay? They cannot amend, they cannot repeal it.
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Okay? They can only interpret it according to the spirit when it was made.
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Okay?
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Yung iba kasi sinasabi nila,
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ikaw ina-amendahan ng Supreme Court yung mga batas.
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I don't want to term it amend.
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They are interpreting it according to the true intent or the spirit of the law.
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Although there are many instances kung saan, yung Supreme Court, mga kabatas natin,
03:50.5
hindi nila napupunto agad kung ano yung intention ng mga mababatas.
03:56.0
Mga kabatas natin, sa mga batas na ini-interpret nila.
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That's why sometimes, mga kabatas natin, they abandon or overturn cases like the Tolentino case.
04:05.5
Mga kabatas natin, naalala nyo yung kaso ni Kausing.
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Ni Attorney Kausing, mga kabatas natin.
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Dineclare nila sa Tolentino case na 15 years yung prescription ng cyber libel.
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Then eventually, sinabi nila, we are abandoning or overturning the Tolentino case
04:23.1
and we are declaring now na...
04:26.0
One year lang yung prescriptive period ng cyber libel because there is no new crime.
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Ngayon, nagkaroon ba ng amendment doon?
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Hindi naman.
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No, there was no amendment actually.
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They just abandoned the interpretation.
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That is previously not the true intent of the law.
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Kaya pag makikita nyo, mahaba yung discussion eh.
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Diniscuss nila na ito dapat.
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Hindi yan.
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In other words, they are just correcting themselves.
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After all, we have to adapt to the changes.
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Okay?
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So dito, sinabi niya, dinicriminalize.
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I don't agree.
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I don't agree.
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I don't agree.
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Alam nyo kasi, Captain Ying, ang libel po kasi ay nadicriminalize ng ating kagalanggalang na Supreme Court.
05:19.2
Ibig sabihin, mag-uso na isang kasong krimen kung hindi meron lang kagalanggalang na Supreme Court.
05:24.6
Ibig sabihin, mag-uso na isang kasong krimen kung hindi meron...
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Ibig sabihin, parang sinabi, ibig sabihin di na ito isang kasong krimen kundi...
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...lamang parang civil liability.
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O, parang civil liability lang sabi niya.
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So I have a fresh new set of cyber libel cases.
05:44.9
It was filed December lang this year, mga kabatas natin.
05:49.7
If it was decriminalized, then we shouldn't have gone through the process.
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Prosecutor's Office.
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Dapat, pag hindi kriminal in nature ang isang kaso,
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diretsyo kayo sa korte at hindi dadaan sa Prosecutor's Office.
06:04.3
So doon pa lang, based on my personal experience,
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and of course as a lawyer, I don't agree with Atty. George Garcia,
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Comeleg Chairman, in his pronouncement that it was decriminalized.
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Ano ba yung tama doon?
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In my opinion, ha?
06:19.5
Siyempre, mga kabatas natin, nag-aaral tayo dito.
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Marami na naman magsasabi.
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Itong si Atty. Libayan, nagmamagaling na naman.
06:27.9
We are studying here.
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Okay?
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Kung hindi mo pa nasubukan na pumunta sa isang lugar kung saan yung mga tao ay nag-aaral,
06:36.5
then masyasyak ka talaga kung bakit yung mga tao, kahit abogado,
06:41.0
nagkakaroon ng iba't ibang opinion.
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Okay?
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Tingnan nyo.
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Ito na isang kasong krimen kung hindi meron lamang parang civil liability.
06:51.5
O, parang civil liability.
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Actually, mga kabatas,
06:54.6
mga kabatas natin, pinaliwanag rin yan doon sa kaso ni Rafi Tulfo
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noong na-convict siya sa libel.
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Kasi nga, fine lang yung pinataw sa kanya doon.
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Sinabi, fine, yung fine o yung pagbayad niya lang ng pera
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ay hindi civil in nature, kundi kriminal.
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So, it is still considered a crime.
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Tapos, may fine na criminal in nature.
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Ngayon, mga kabatas natin,
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dahil convicted pa rin si Rafi Tulfo,
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it means he is still convicted by a crime involving moral turpitude.
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Diba?
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So, I don't understand kung saan siya kumukuha niyan.
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Pakinggan pa natin.
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In fact po, wala nang pagkakakulong ang mga kakukundrik ng life.
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Yan, sabi niya, wala nang pagkakakulong.
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As far as I know,
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I don't know how to term this.
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Kasi yung mga tao na naman,
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sasabihin nila,
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eh, nagmasmagaling ka pa sa Comedic Chairman.
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I cannot fight with myself
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and just agree with things that I think
08:09.6
are not correct in my opinion
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sa sarili kong pag-aaral.
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Kaya nga may do your own research eh.
08:20.1
So, kunwari, ganyan.
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Kapag naman,
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kahit Comedic Chairman siya,
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kailangan ba
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umuuna lang tayo lahat sa sasabihin niya?
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Diba?
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O, ito, tingnan nyo.
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Ito na isang kasong krimen,
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kung hindi meron lamang parang civil liability.
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So, in fact po, wala nang pagkakakulong
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ang mga kakukundrik ng life.
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Meron pa rin eh.
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Ganto rin kasi yung,
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well,
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there was another wrong interpretation
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in relation to this.
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Pinaliwanag ko na rin ito.
08:59.5
Nagkaroon nga yung pronouncement,
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yung Supreme Court noon,
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na nagkaroon ng preference of application of penalties.
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Nangyari rin yan mga kabatas natin noon
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sa BP-22.
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Kasi nga, noon, mga kabatas natin,
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ang daming nakakasuhan ng BP-22,
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ginagawa ng mga tao, no,
09:20.0
na collection agency,
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yung mga korte.
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At saka, syempre,
09:25.8
marami kasing natatalbogan ng cheque
09:27.8
na hindi naman nila sinasadyang tumalbog yung cheque nila
09:30.9
kasi nalugi sila ng negosyo.
09:33.5
Ay nagkaroon sila ng problema sa kanilang finances.
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In other words,
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hindi deliberately na gusto nilang tumalbog yung cheque nila.
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Sinabi ng Supreme Court ngayon,
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okay, ang gagawin natin,
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no,
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sabi ni Kayo,
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hindi nabanggit ni Atty. Tikman,
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na dekriminalize na pala ang libel.
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Well, sinasabi niya, dekriminalize eh.
09:59.0
Ang nangyari, ito, no, ang nangyari,
10:01.0
sinabi ng Supreme Court,
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ah, ito ang gawin natin.
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Kasi, after all,
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the judiciary, in the judiciary,
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what we are actually
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trying to aim for is justice.
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No?
10:15.0
In relation to BP-22 cases,
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ito ang magiging preference
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of penalties.
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Sabi niya, as much as possible,
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huwag kayong magbigay
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ng penalti
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ng imprisonment, sabi niya.
10:29.0
Ang gawin nyo,
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unang-una na i-consider nyo,
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and we prefer
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that you only give fine
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as a penalty.
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But it is still criminal
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in nature, because it is fine.
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Ipapaliwanag ko sa inyo
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kung paano hindi magiging kriminal na ito
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mamaya pag tinalakay natin
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yung bill ni Sen. Ginggo Estrada.
10:51.0
Ganto rin yung ginawa niya,
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yung ginawa ng Supreme Court ngayon,
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in my opinion,
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sa libel,
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hindi niya din i-criminalize.
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Okay?
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Binagbigay din siya ng
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preference of penalties.
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Sabi rin ng Supreme Court,
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pag libel, kasi nga ang daming
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nag-aabuso dyan.
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Yung slap suits nga, diba?
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Sabi ng Supreme Court,
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para mas maprotektahan
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yung freedom of speech
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hindi ma-abuso yung pag-file
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ng kaso sa mga
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tao na bumabatikos
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sa sino mang personalidad,
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may preference
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of penalties na rin tayo.
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Ang preference
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of penalties niya, number one, dapat
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i-prioritize
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niyo na ibigay lang yung
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penalty na fine.
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Okay? Fine lang.
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Walang kulong.
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Susunod, pwedeng
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may kulong. Pero,
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hindi recommend, sabi ng Supreme Court,
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na fine yung ibigay niyo.
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Did it decriminalize libel?
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It did not. There was
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only a recommendation
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in relation to the
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preference of
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applicable penalties.
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Kasi pwedeng fine, pwedeng kulong,
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pwedeng fine at kulong
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nasabay. So, ang sinabi niya,
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ang priority, fine lang.
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Diba? Sabi ni Kayo,
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na under attack yung
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cyber libel ngayon as being
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unconstitutional based doon sa oral
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argument sa Supreme Court. Oo nga,
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napanood ko rin yun doon sa channel mo.
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No?
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Sabi ni Weirdogs,
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kung nakulong si Idol sa kaso
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ng libel, baka nagkita sila
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ni Perrion at Tagol sa loob
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ng oblo.
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Loob ng oblo talaga. Pero,
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alam nyo, yun nga kasi ang maraming nagtatanong, na hindi
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sila naniniwala na convicted si Rafi
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Tulfo. Kasi nga, hindi
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naman daw siya nakulong.
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So, ito kasi yung explanation din noon.
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Okay? So, magtatanong na fake news, fake news.
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May Supreme Court decision
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na convicted siya for cyber, ay,
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for libel. Okay?
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Sabi ni Brix Bala,
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mali yata yung choice of words ni
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chairman. Hindi e. Kasi
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kung choice of words lang, ibig sabihin,
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mali yung nasabi niya,
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pero tama yung explanation
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niya. Pero dito, yung
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explanation niya, hindi rin ako
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agree.
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Recool, huwag kang ganyan.
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Nope. Nope,
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Recool.
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You're, you're,
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you're ano, you are on a
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tightrope if you say that. Ah, tignan nyo.
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Ito yung sinasabi nila na wrong choice of words?
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Well, I don't think so.
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Kasi ay na-decriminalize.
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Oo, na-decriminalize. So, ano
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yung choice of words na mali?
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If we will, like, consider the wrong
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choice of words, yung na-decriminalize,
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di ba? Yung kagalanggalang na Supreme Court.
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Ibig sabihin, hindi ito na isang kasong
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krimen, kung hindi meron lamang
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parang... Hindi na ito isang kasong
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krimen, sabi niya. Civil
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liability. Tapos, civil liability.
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So, I don't think
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so. I don't think it's a
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wrong choice of words.
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Sabi niya, consistent yung explanation
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dun sa choice of words. Tama. Di ba?
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Ano yung mga words na ginamit niya?
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Ah, na-decriminalize.
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Hindi na
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criminal in nature. Hindi na
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kriminal. Tapos, pangatlo,
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civil liability na lang.
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So, in fact po,
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wala nang pagkakakulong ang mga
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makukundrik ng libel. Yun.
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Hindi. It's only preference
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of penalties. Although,
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siyempre, most likely,
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hindi na nga mag-iimpose ng kulong
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na penalty
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itong
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mga judges natin. Kasi nga,
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iyon ang mandato ng
14:52.9
Supreme Court eh. Although, hindi na sila
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mag-iimpose ng penalty ng kulong, mga kabatas
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natin, ang magiging issue
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talaga dyan, eh...
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Meron pa rin.
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Unless you
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amend the law.
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Unless you change the law.
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Therefore, sa ating palagay, wala po
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yung mismo disqualification na iyan.
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Opo. Ganyan, no?
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So, sa kanyang
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palagay, wala daw yung
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disqualification na iyon.
15:24.9
So, we will relate it. Although,
15:26.9
wala silang binanggit doon kay Rafi Tulfo,
15:28.9
ire-relate natin doon. Yun, parang naiisip
15:30.9
niya walang disqualification kasi nga
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na-decriminalize yung libel.
15:38.9
Pero, ang
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libel na yung...
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yung lumang libel,
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yung lumang libel, tama kayo.
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Parang na-decriminalize na iyan. Pero
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yung bagong... Hindi, eh. Hindi, eh. Kasi nga,
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Aka Tuning, if you're
15:52.9
listening, no?
15:54.9
Sinabi ng Supreme
15:56.9
Court na rin na yung lumang libel
15:58.9
tsaka yung bagong libel, pareho
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lang. There is no new crime.
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There is just a new manner of
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committing it, which is through
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information and communication technology.
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Diba?
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Sabihin lang naman, eh.
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Sabi ni
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kayo.
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Ang final test niyan ay kumuha ng
16:20.9
NBI clearance sa IDOL. Kapag civil case,
16:22.9
diba wala sa records? Wala, oo.
16:24.9
Pero sasabihin nga nila,
16:26.9
luma na.
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Ito yung lalabas ngayon, kayo, tignan nyo.
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Luma na. Kasi parang yung
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bagong libel, which is cyber libel, which is wrong.
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It's not a new crime.
16:36.9
The Supreme Court said that
16:38.9
already in the Causing
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case, na
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it's not a new crime. It's just
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the old crime committed
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in a new manner
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through information and
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communications technology. Tuloy natin.
16:52.9
Bagong libel na
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cyber libel, eh may
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kulong yun, ah.
16:58.9
May kulong po yun. Opo, may kulong po yun.
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At syempre, nakadependent... Doon na lang.
17:02.9
Nag-contradict na agad. Kasi nga kung may
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kulong yun, eh sinabi ng Supreme Court na
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there is no new crime.
17:10.9
Mali yung Supreme Court. Hindi.
17:12.9
Joke lang. Joke lang. Hindi. Mali yung
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Supreme Court. Tama yung Supreme Court.
17:16.9
Nagdi-disagree ako kay Comelec, chairman.
17:18.9
At saka, ka Tunying,
17:20.9
disagree din ako
17:22.9
sa iyo.
17:24.9
Kung yan sa quest. Kung yan
17:26.9
ay maglalagay ng isang disqualification. Usually po,
17:28.9
ka Tunying, pagka may isang
17:30.9
krimen, mayroong tinatawag na principal
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penalty at mayroong tinatawag na
17:34.9
accessory penalty. Kapag principal
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halimbawa yung kulong, may accessory naman.
17:38.9
Halimbawa, disqualification,
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for civil and political rights. Halimbawa,
17:42.9
kasama po yun. Well,
17:44.9
pero, pero, nakalagay
17:46.9
din sa batas natin na yung
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prohibition ng pagtakbo
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ay wala actually
17:52.9
doon sa penalties.
17:54.9
Okay. Ito rin ang lilinawin ko
17:56.9
kay Comelec, chairman.
17:58.9
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
18:00.9
Yung disqualification,
18:02.9
wala doon sa penalties,
18:04.9
kundi nando doon sa
18:06.9
eligibility mo na tumakbo.
18:08.9
Bakit? Sabing ganyan
18:10.9
kasi pag tatakbo ka sa isang
18:12.9
posisyon sa gobyerno, you must possess
18:14.9
all of the qualifications
18:16.9
and none of the
18:18.9
disqualifications. Kayo ang magaling
18:20.9
dito, hindi ako. So correct me
18:22.9
if I'm wrong. You must possess
18:24.9
all the qualifications and
18:26.9
none of the disqualifications
18:28.9
for you to be eligible to run
18:30.9
for office. Ngayon,
18:32.9
yung sinasabing yung penalty
18:34.9
na disqualification to
18:36.9
run from office, yun yung sinasabing
18:38.9
yung penalty na secondary na ibig
18:40.9
ibigay ng huwes. Pero
18:42.9
yung pinaghuhugutan natin,
18:44.9
eh hindi naman based on the
18:46.9
penalty, but based on the
18:48.9
disqualification
18:50.9
na nakalagay doon sa batas
18:52.9
kapag tatakbo ka.
18:54.9
Ano yung nakalagay
18:56.9
sa batas kapag tatakbo ka?
18:58.9
You must not be convicted
19:00.9
of any crime involving
19:02.9
moral turpitude.
19:04.9
Hindi kailangan
19:06.9
may ilagay sa disisyon yun
19:08.9
because it's already provided
19:10.9
for by law.
19:12.9
Diba? So magkaibang
19:14.9
magkaiba yung pag-uusap
19:16.9
na yun.
19:18.9
Hindi naman kailangan nang sabihin
19:20.9
nung judge na, oh disqualified kang tumakbo.
19:22.9
Hindi na kailangan. Why?
19:24.9
Because it's already provided
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for by law na if you are
19:28.9
convicted
19:30.9
of a crime involving moral
19:32.9
turpitude, just like libel, you
19:34.9
are disqualified from running.
19:36.9
Tulad ng sinabi ko, you must possess
19:38.9
all the qualifications and none
19:40.9
of the disqualifications. If you
19:42.9
have that disqualification, you
19:44.9
are convicted of a crime involving
19:46.9
moral turpitude regardless
19:48.9
of the penalty.
19:50.9
Regardless
19:52.9
of the secondary penalty, primary
19:54.9
penalty, it does not
19:56.9
matter.
19:58.9
So yun usually po
20:00.9
ay sinasama ng Korte
20:02.9
sa kanyang disisyon, sa dispositive
20:04.9
portion ng ikang disisyon.
20:06.9
So kapag ka sinabi ng Korte sa
20:08.9
prema na guilty ka sa libel
20:10.9
with final conviction pero wala
20:12.9
ka ng kulong, so
20:14.9
pwede ka nang kumandidato nun.
20:16.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:18.9
Pwede naman po. Pwede nang tumali ba na lang?
20:26.9
No, I don't agree sir. I'm
20:28.9
sorry.
20:30.9
Pwede na kahit convicted ka ng libel,
20:32.9
pwede kang tumakbo.
20:34.9
Meron yung prohibition
20:36.9
five years lang, di ba?
20:38.9
Kasi may batas tayo dyan eh.
20:40.9
What should I do?
20:42.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:44.9
Pwede naman po.
20:46.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:48.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:50.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:52.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:54.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:56.9
Pwede ka nang bumoto nun.
20:58.9
Pwede naman po.
21:00.9
Pwede naman po. Mali ba na lang kung merong
21:02.9
nakalagay doon sa desisyon ng Korte na
21:04.9
but with accessory penalty.
21:06.9
Hindi naman po.
21:08.9
Do we need that? No.
21:12.9
Parang kunwari, kailangan ba sabihin ng
21:14.9
Supreme Court na dapat Pilipino
21:16.9
citizen ka? Pagtatakbo
21:18.9
ka o Korte na
21:20.9
Pilipino citizen ka, hindi kailangan.
21:22.9
Why? Because it's already provided
21:24.9
for by law. Merong
21:26.9
nakalista doon ng qualifications and may
21:28.9
nakalista doon ng disqualifications.
21:30.9
And one of the disqualifications is
21:32.9
if you are convicted of
21:34.9
a crime involving moral turpitude.
21:36.9
Bakit kailangan
21:38.9
ilagay pa ng Korte yun
21:40.9
para ma-disqualify ka when it is
21:42.9
already provided for by law?
21:46.9
Sabi pa nga sa
21:48.9
isa sa umatake, I'd prefer to be
21:50.9
libeled in email kesa TV or radio.
21:52.9
Kasi mas konti ang sa email.
21:54.9
Pero pasok ang email
21:56.9
sa cyber libel.
21:58.9
I-send to many mo.
22:06.9
Relevant din.
22:08.9
Well, pinag-usapan din natin
22:10.9
yan kay Atty. Pichay noon.
22:12.9
Worrying he was disqualified to run pero after 5 years.
22:14.9
Kasi yun yung prohibition na.
22:16.9
5 years eh.
22:18.9
Weird!
22:20.9
Alam nyo, alam nyo
22:22.9
kung, alam nyo kung
22:24.9
lahat nung
22:26.9
balahibo ko tumatayo
22:28.9
na I don't know how to
22:30.9
I don't know how to
22:32.9
deal with this. Maybe I'm
22:34.9
wrong. So please correct me.
22:36.9
Kasi ganyan na naman
22:38.9
yung sa Axie eh. Bakit ikaw lang?
22:40.9
Bakit ikaw lang?
22:42.9
Merong nakalagay
22:44.9
doon sa desisyon ng Korte na
22:46.9
but with accessory penalty.
22:48.9
Hindi naman po Korte, kung wala ng kulong
22:50.9
eh wala yung accessory. E paano po kung
22:52.9
biglang minilagay na accessory penalty naman
22:54.9
na kahit wala yung principal.
22:56.9
Hindi naman kailangan yung accessory
22:58.9
penalty kasi nga yung conviction
23:00.9
ang tinitignan eh. If you are convicted
23:02.9
of a crime involving moral
23:04.9
turpitude, automatically
23:06.9
you are disqualified to run.
23:08.9
Whether or not there is a secondary
23:10.9
penalty.
23:12.9
Ang pinaka
23:14.9
principal na ngayon, lalabas, hindi
23:16.9
kulong kung hindi yung fine,
23:18.9
yung pagbabayad ka. Pero may
23:20.9
accessory penalty pa rin,
23:22.9
mayroong pwedeng ma-addict. Ang isang
23:24.9
pwede o Korte Suprema sa kanyang desisyon.
23:26.9
Kung multa lang po pero hindi po
23:28.9
in-specify ng Korte Suprema na
23:30.9
na hindi ka disqualified
23:32.9
o disqualified ka, paano po
23:34.9
yun?
23:38.9
Alam na this Komilek Chairman.
23:42.9
Kinaka...
23:46.9
Nandilisik yung ano... ay nandilisik.
23:52.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
23:54.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
23:56.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
23:58.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
24:00.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
24:02.9
Nagkaka-goosebumps ako.
24:04.9
Ayan. Yan natin titignan ngayon.
24:06.9
Yung provision ng batas.
24:08.9
Kung kahit na hindi banggutin
24:10.9
yung mismong accessory penalty,
24:12.9
automatic yun kapag ka-convicted
24:14.9
sa isang krimen na katulad po niya.
24:16.9
Tignan niyo.
24:18.9
Tignan niyo.
24:20.9
Automatic yun kapag ka-convicted
24:22.9
sa isang krimen na katulad po niya.
24:24.9
Ito po yung magiging batayan natin.
24:26.9
Pabalik po tayo doon sa provision ng batas.
24:28.9
Tama po ba intindi natin
24:30.9
ang kasong libel involves moral
24:32.9
turpitude?
24:34.9
Very good question.
24:36.9
Hanggat hindi ito binabago ng batas?
24:38.9
Ayoko po po
24:40.9
magsabi may
24:42.9
official capacity. Pero sa
24:44.9
personal capacity po, meron po kasi akong
24:46.9
isang naging decision dyan sa isang kaso
24:48.9
dati involving a congressman
24:50.9
sa House...
24:54.9
Tandaan niyo mga kabatas natin.
24:56.9
If the law
25:00.9
is
25:02.9
If the law is
25:04.9
unambiguous,
25:06.9
there is nothing left
25:08.9
to do but to apply it.
25:10.9
Bakit may personal
25:12.9
opinion ka tapos meron kang
25:14.9
legal opinion?
25:16.9
In your
25:18.9
professional
25:20.9
capacity as a public servant,
25:22.9
of course, dapat hindi
25:24.9
yung personal opinion mo ang
25:26.9
mananaig, di ba?
25:28.9
Pero nakita niyo, no?
25:30.9
Iwas si chairman. Nag-iba yung
25:32.9
boses ni chairman, no? Nung narinig
25:34.9
yung personal capacity.
25:40.9
May nagtanggal
25:42.9
si Sarah.
25:48.9
Pakinggan natin ulit. Nasyashok ako.
25:50.9
Opo. Pero sa personal capacity,
25:52.9
meron po kasi akong isang naging
25:54.9
decision dyan sa isang kaso dati
25:56.9
involving a congressman
25:58.9
sa House of Representatives Electoral Tribunal
26:00.9
at namanggit po doon that
26:02.9
libel is a crime involving moral
26:04.9
solitude. Hindi ko na po na-monitor
26:06.9
kung yan ay na-reverse
26:08.9
sa mga... o yung doktrinang
26:10.9
yan ay na-reverse sa mga subunod na
26:12.9
mga desisyon ng Korte. Subalit yung po
26:14.9
sinabi po... Siguro dapat alam mo.
26:16.9
Kasi komeleg chairman ka.
26:22.9
Nagugulat talaga ako.
26:28.9
Libel is a crime
26:30.9
involving moral solitude.
26:32.9
Kaya po yung congressman ay natanggal po
26:34.9
bilang member ng House of Representatives.
26:36.9
Kaya yung mga nakikinig sa atin
26:38.9
na nangangarap maging politiko,
26:40.9
yung libel
26:42.9
involves moral solitude batay doon sa
26:44.9
binanggit niyong kaso.
26:46.9
Tama po. Tama po kayo.
26:48.9
May reversal yung ating Korte
26:50.9
yung problema. Wala.
26:56.9
Ewan ko kung may sisingit pa natin
26:58.9
itong bill ni ano. Gusto kong
27:00.9
pahabaid din eh. Itong
27:02.9
bill ni ano. Isunod na lang natin mga
27:04.9
kabatas natin.
27:06.9
Kasi ano,
27:08.9
mas magandang we will extensively
27:10.9
discuss this also.
27:12.9
Para suggestion ko lang doon sa
27:14.9
kung gusto nilang gumawa ng batas
27:16.9
tungkol sa decriminalization
27:18.9
ng libel. Parang medyo magulo kasi
27:20.9
eh. Okay? Yan.
27:22.9
Maraming salamat mga kabatas natin.
27:26.9
Tumatay pa rin yung balaibo ko
27:28.9
na ano ako
27:30.9
na
27:36.9
nagulat ako.
27:42.9
Kaya hindi ko maintindihan
27:44.9
tong si Kayo bakit hindi ka batch 1 eh.
27:46.9
Sarcastic si Katulnyang
27:50.9
sa educational.
27:56.9
Sabi ni Tun Karagay,
27:58.9
sayang dapat na itanong niya
28:00.9
about kay Idol bakit siya nakapasok. Actually,
28:02.9
impliedly na itanong niya.
28:04.9
Indirectly na itanong niya.
28:06.9
Indirectly na itanong niya.
28:08.9
Kaya hindi ko maintindihan ito.
28:10.9
Kaya hindi ko maintindihan ito.
28:14.9
Yan. Maraming salamat mga kabatas natin.
28:16.9
I need to recover.
28:18.9
Hindi ko napanood yung buong yun
28:20.9
kasi pinunog ko yung kalahat eh.
28:22.9
Tapos maganda na panuorin ng buong.
28:24.9
Sinear din recall yun eh.
28:30.9
Medyo bumigat yung
28:32.9
dibdib ko. Yan. Maraming salamat
28:34.9
mga kabatas natin. At syempre tulad na lagi
28:36.9
sinasabi matulog tayo ng mahimbing
28:38.9
dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing
28:40.9
siya yung lagi yung panalo. Paalam po.
28:42.9
Pansamantala.