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na inilabas ng ano,
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para dyan sa perma na yan,
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Yung ads na Ed Sapuera,
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Ngayon, nung kinumpute last hearing,
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posibleng mga aabuti ng 55 million
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ang nagastos doon lang sa ads na yun.
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Yung na-play pa lang.
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Sino ang umamin na sila daw yung
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naglagay ng ads na yun?
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Sila yung nag-place ng ads.
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Yung grupong perma.
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At ang leader ng grupo na yan na perma,
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ito, yung Mr. Noel Uñate.
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Yung nasa kanan naman,
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yung Atty. Ibaristogana.
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Yan naman yung abugado nila.
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Ngayon, nirequire sila
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ng Senate Committee on Elections
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and Electoral Reforms
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in People's Participation
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na sa sunod na hearing
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at ngayon na ngayon,
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dapat dalhin nila yung mga resibo.
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Yung listahan ng mga donors,
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sino yung nagbayad
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55 million pesos.
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tinapaproduce sila ng mga resibo.
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O dapat dinala nila ngayon.
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Alam nyo yung nangyari ngayon?
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Hindi nila daladala.
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Hindi nila maiproduce yung lista
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at hindi nila daladala
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Alam nyo kung ano ang palusot niya,
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Alam nyo ang palusot?
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Yun daw, mga donors,
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ayaw daw nilang ipalabas
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yung mga pangalan nila.
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Kaya, ang ginawa daw nito,
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nito ni Mr. Unyate,
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siya na lang daw, ano,
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binawi na daw ng mga donors, ano.
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Binawi na daw ng mga donors
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yung binigay nilang pera.
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Ayaw daw nilang mapangalanan sila.
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Kaya, siya na lang daw ang sumagot.
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Ang tindi, mga kabunyog, mga kababayan.
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Nakuha nyo yung ano?
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Ah, ganon yung ano.
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Kaya, yung mga nagsustulong na yan
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ng tsa-tsa na yan,
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kung ano-anong palusot ang ginagawa,
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walang umaamin kung sino,
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sino ang mga nasa likod niyan.
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galit na galit yung mga kongresista
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sa imbestigasyon daw ng Senado,
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dinidiin sila na sila yung nasa likod
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o ng People's Initiative na yan.
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sino namang maniniwalang
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hindi sila ang nasa likod niyan?
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Sa halos lahat ng lugar sa Pilipinas,
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ay mga tao ng kongresista.
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nahawak ni kongresman.
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Yung mga leader sa barangay,
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kaya yung mga kongresista talaga,
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sila naman ang nasa likod talaga
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ng paperma na yan.
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Pati itong grupong ito,
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parang front lang sila dyan eh.
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Parang sila lang yung ginagamit
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na parang pamprontera
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itong grupong perma.
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Pinapaproduce sila ngayon
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hindi makaproduce.
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At ang sinabi nito ni Mr. Uñate,
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yun daw mga donors niya
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nag-atrasa na daw.
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Binawi na daw yung contribution nila.
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Kaya siya na lang daw ang sasagot.
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Ang tindi ng palusot nito.
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yun yung mga kabunyog.
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The list of donors
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and friends of Mr. Uñate.
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And the proof of payment
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the invoice and official receipt
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of the advertisement
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I think these were the requested documents
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I believe last night.
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I first received an invitation. And then, late last night, I was informed by my lawyers that an additional subpoena was also delivered to us. And I was just wondering how come there is a need for an additional subpoena when I was really going to come here.
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There was no confirmation from yourself, Mr. Oñate, or from your lawyers about your presence here this morning. And given the lateness of the submission and the continued delay, we felt it was incumbent upon the committee to issue a subpoena.
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And I believe that another motion is actually on the floor at the moment from Senator Ontiveros, similarly ordering...
05:22.9
Madam Chair, if I may? Madam Chair?
05:29.4
Yes, po. And I think you had representation as well who were warned on February 2 in Davao. I believe Attorney Ryan and someone else, if I'm not wrong.
05:41.2
Security, there were just many... What I said, I think...
05:45.6
In terms of honor...
05:52.9
Yes, please, Mr. Oñate, please.
05:56.0
Madam Chair, if I may, just one quick...
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I'm sorry, I think Mr. Oñate would like to reply, Attorney.
06:01.0
I had all intention of fulfilling what I said. I think I told you that we will submit the list of the donors with my lawyers.
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But, you know, I obeyed what Senator Chis mentioned here.
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That maybe you might want to...
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Consult your contributors, which I did. I did consult them over the last many days.
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And they didn't want to reveal their names. They didn't want their names divulged or revealed.
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Yes, to reiterate the statement of...
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The reason that they gave me is that they are concerned with their privacy. They are concerned with their security.
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But there's no issue of security or privacy. I think it's a matter of pride that as a committed citizen, you are advocating constitutional change.
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As Senator Chis said, it should be an activity that you take pride and honor in.
07:10.2
They support constitutional change, but they are also concerned about their security and their privacy.
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And I think maybe they thought about it.
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Maybe they deemed it more important that their security, their privacy, and their family is higher than their concern about people's initiative.
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Yes, Senator Antiveros, please.
07:37.8
Madam Chair, to what the Chair has said, kahit po lahat ng kandidato kasama po tayo, pagkatapos ng bawat eleksyon, nagsusimite po tayo ng sose natin sa Comelectin.
07:49.0
And a people's initiative, if properly implemented...
07:52.7
If properly implemented, na yun pong tinatanong nitong ating investigasyon, ay isang katulad din na constitutional process.
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At kailangan may transparency and accountability yung nagsasagawa nito.
08:05.6
Partikular sa advertisement na itinatanong natin na walang nagtanong kay Mr. Oñate noon, sila mismo nagsabi it cost 55 million pesos.
08:15.0
So I would still insist, Madam Chair, dun sa...
08:18.1
Panarinig nyo, mga kabunyong.
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Daling mismo kay Mr. Oñate.
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Kung magkano yung naging halaga ng ads na yun.
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Request ng minority leader ko, na ipinangako naman ni Mr. Oñate, noong araw na yun, two weeks ago, na maisumite yung impormasyong yun sa committee.
08:36.8
Perhaps, Madam Chair, upon the advice of our legal, that the Chair could explore the issuance of a subpoena to SISTEC.
08:44.7
Since we had not received the required documents, the truth is that a subpoena has been issued by this committee.
08:52.7
Of its own volition, and I assume that your lawyers are in receipt of the subpoena, requiring the following documents.
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First, the actual cost of printing of the...
09:02.5
That maybe you might want to consult your...
09:16.0
...of the list of cost of...
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Yes, Madam Chair, that...
09:22.7
Uy, yan yung mga kabunyog, ano?
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Binawi daw ng kanilang mga, ano?
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And we filed our compliance this morning, Your Honor.
09:35.0
And in our compliance, it requires...
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Are you telling us that we're in fact already in receipt of the documents requested by minority leader Pimentel?
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Some of the documents are there, Your Honor, and it requires an explanation.
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And Mr. Oñate would explain...
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The names of the contributors, he indeed sought the consent of his contributors.
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But unfortunately, they refused to allow him to divulge his names.
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And that's why Mr. Oñate was unable to continue because what actually happened was he was forced to return their contributions.
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And we attach in our compliance the withdrawal slips showing that Mr. Oñate withdrew some substantial amounts and returned...
10:22.5
The contributions of some of his friends, Your Honor.
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Naki, naanon yung mga kabunyog?
10:30.2
Yung mga contributors daw, yung mga donors, binawi na lang yung kanilang contribution.
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The withdrawal slips showing that Mr. Oñate withdrew some substantial amounts and returned the contributions of some of his friends, Your Honor.
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Sabi mo, palibasan di kayo makapag-
10:52.5
Produce ng mga donors, winit-draw na lamang yung pera at sinoli na lang ng solo ni Mr. Oñate.
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Madam Senator, parang nalalabuan po ako.
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Ano ba nangyari? Paliwanag po natin si Senator Binay mukhang nanalilitoripo.
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Madam Chair, siguro magandang tanongin yung BIR.
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Anyway, nakuhan yung mga kabunyog ang palusot, ano? Matindi, ano?
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Matindi ang palusot.
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yung kanilang mga pangalan,
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Jesus, mga kabunyog.
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ang daming mga sinungaling
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Kahit itong mga lawyers na ito,
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kung makapagsalita,
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ang mga nagsisinungaling.
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salamat sa donation nyo po.
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ibig nyong sabihin,
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yung donation na binigay,
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Tapos nagbayad na lang
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si Mr. Onyati na lang
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kasi binawi na yung donations.
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Aminin nyo na lang,
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Ayan, mga kabunyog.
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Kaya yung People's Initiative na yan,
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ang daming palusot dyan,
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ang daming kasinungalingan dyan.
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Papano naman yan?
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Hindi dapat suportahan
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yung People's Initiative na yan.
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Hindi naman tapos
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hindi naman talaga yan
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initiative ng taong bayan.
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Politicians' Initiative yan.
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Okay, sige mga kabunyog,
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sa bagong Pilipinas
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武 lavoro mo ng mga kaключak nito.
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magiging kapit-katom.
