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I would like to validate yung

information mo about the unpublished

surveys because our own

Magdalo survey which

concluded just last week

validated

that information.

Tulfo is also number one.

That's it.

At yung ano,

with just less than two weeks

ng open war between the

Dutertes and the Marcos, talagang tinamaan

yung mga Dutertes.

And yun sa ICC question namin,

yung ICC question nga namin

is more direct

na ano

ang inyong opinion sa nalalapit

na pag-aresto

kay Rodrigo Duterte

ng ICC, International Criminal Court.

Yan yan.

Ang choices, sangayon,

hindi sangayon, at walang opinion.

Yung

sangayon, nag-increase siya

from 13% to 18%.

Tapos yung

di sangayon

bumaba siya from 33% to 31%.

Nanaraw yung gap

in just less than two weeks.

And yung walang opinion,

ito kasi yung refuge.

The thing about Filipino respondents,

Filipino voter is

kailangan meron kang

refuge para sa kanya

kasi hindi niya, baka samain siya

dun sa totoong sentimiento niya.

So that is

the walang opinion.

Kasi maliwanag naman kung

talagang makadoteng

Duterte ka at ayaw mong ma-aresto siya,

isabihin mo yung di ka

sangayon. It's there. The choice is there.

Pero bakit walang opinion sinabi mo?

Because you don't care at all

about Mr. Duterte.

At so pag susumahin mo yun,

yung 18% and 47%,

that's 65%

na

technically in favor of

Duterte

being arrested.

Kasi yung question ng

SWS is...

It's just cooperation.

Ito hindi.

Arresto.

Very interesting.

Okay, so just to put it,

I think both of us have confirmed from the data

we have now, unfortunately the publisher

is that ULFA is now number one.

So SARA is no longer a foregone conclusion.

And the trajectory is

not in favor of SARA. It's actually the other way

around, regardless of whether

you like ULFA or not. But the second and even more

important is the fact that

majority,

51%

want ICC to investigate,

57% want BBM administration

to cooperate, and then base sa sinasabi

nyo, only around 30%

are against arrest.

So that means

majority, 6 out of 10, are open

to the idea of an arrest warrant.

Iba yun, na hindi sinama sa

SWS. I really appreciate this intervention

because these are numbers, these are

data, this is the reality. Hindi yung sa social

media, hindi yung sinasabi ni Boljak TV,

whatever. We're talking about

systematic.

Numbers that we have there, right?

And probably they also know about it, no? The other side.

I think they know this.

Oh, and the, ano no?

We've been tracking, no?

The last survey we had,

we conducted last August.

So, ngayon,

January, so basically six months

after, tinitingnan namin.

So, tumataas yung, habang

tumataas yung awareness about the ICC,

tumataas yung in favor,

tapos bumamaba yung, ano,

and the bulk neto is,

in Mindanao, nung mga ayaw.

No? But Luzon,

Visayas, basically, ano na siya.

Pwede na siyang isuka,

no? Kung baga sinusuka na siya.

Or willing silang

isuku

si Duterte and

it won't matter in their

daily lives, ganon.

Does that also, I mean,

of course, I don't know how religious you are, but

I mean, does that also kind of

restore your faith in the Filipino people?

Kasi parating mo inisip na, you know,

EJK, this is a horrible thing.

I mean, you know, I mean, this was a human rights

catastrophe. This is a, this is

an affront to a conscience of any, you know,

true person of faith. I don't know kung

Christian ka or whatever religion.

For me, this kind of proves that

it was really climate of fear, right?

Na a lot of this was disinformation,

exaggeration, performative,

climate of fear.

Now na hindi sila nakakatakot

sa karamihan.

No na, nag-collapse.

Medyo lumalabas na yung mga totoong sentimento ng tao.

Diba? Parang, ganun na.

Na-exaggerated yung mga superlative

approval-approval. It's like approval

of Putin in Russia. Do you think anyone

in his right mind, pag tinawag mo sa

Sir, what is your opinion

of Putin? Like, there's no reason.

You're gonna say, I mean, yung mga nagsasabi

no, sobrang tapang mga yan.

Kasi, diba? I mean, yeah.

Same. Same with

kunyari, sa North Korea.

I can imagine 99.5%

ang approval rating niya.

Baka lampas sa 100% pa.

Oo. So,

ganun yun. Kaya nga, when we do

approval

rating, yung

question is, ano ka ba?

Ano to?

Lima yung choices namin.

Kaya, so, kailangan mo magbigay ng

refuge.

Nang refuge sa kanila natin.

Dito ako magtatago.

But still, kung

ano ka, favorable ka

sa kanya, e bakit hindi mo isinulat

yun? Diba? Bat dito ka

sa walang opinion? Kasi,

kumaga,

you just, ano ka,

you want to play it safe.

Or good-natured ka. But hindi

kaya ng sigmura mong magbigay

ng positive statement towards him.

So, ganun yung, I believe,

there's something wrong with the questions

also. And,

pero ito, kaya nga,

hindi na namin, ano yan eh,

yung approval, we believe,

wala sa ganong value, no?

Wala sa ganong value.

May value lang yan. Siguro,

yung performance, feel good lang

doon sa mga nakaupo. But still,

makita mo, historically, bakit

yung cheap justice ang pinakamababa?

It's not because they're

very large.

Hindi lang nila

alam what this guy is doing

or what, ano, out of

sight, out of mind lang sila. Parang

ganon. Kaya, itong

ano, itong nangyari

na open war, talagang tinamahan

si Duterte sa Luzon.

Lalo na, bumaba.

Siya, no?

I still believe na kung tatakbo itong

senador, eh, mananalo yan.

And yun ang kailangan bantayan

ng Marcos administration.

You're talking about Digong himself, not the son.

Digong, yes.

Because if he wins as senator,

most likely, magiging

senate president yan.

If you will count the

possible

voters for him in the senate,

abot na mga 14-15 yan.

So, he will be senate president.

Pag nag-senate president yan, he will

hold this administration hostage.

Grabe.

And ano yun,

mabigat yun. He can summon people

through subpoena, and he can

even issue a warrant

of arrest.

So, whip talaga yan.

Gagawin din niya as whip to whip everyone.

That's Duterte niya,

si presidente.

And kung hawak nalilang senado,

ba.

The group of GMA can make their move sa house

kasi sigurado

ma-impeach ito.

Kasi one or two votes away na lang yan

from an impeachment.

So, I didn't think

out of the woods

ang Marcos administration.

They will have to be vigilant all the way.

And in a sense,

senator, you're saying the opposition should be also

vigilant for 2025. Of course, eye on the

ball 2028, supporters

as the candidate. But as there

is 2025, if Digon comes

back, if the plan works,

yes, legally, it doesn't give you an immunity

from ICC. But politically,

it gives you so much power and platform.

And as I said, that's where I'm a bit worried

kasi feeling ko si BBM,

hindi siya ganon kahawki siya to deal with

that very scary situation na

talawang house. And then there's a China

element, which I think I want to discuss this

in our last part very shortly.

I hope we can catch up again soon,

at least I feel, you can see we're very

comfortable and I think people are loving our conversation.

Even if they're just hearing your audio muna,

there's a huge number of people are listening to us

right now. Let's talk about this issue of national

interest and China.

For a moment, especially

yung mga naihinig sa atin ng Noever Marcos,

I mean, we can go through a long list of your

dissatisfaction with BBM, okay? Gets ko yan.

But this issue of West Philippines

is something very serious, right? Because in a way,

ang Pilipinas ay parang Berlin

in the 1950s. Talagang gitna

tayo ng dalawang higante. Obviously,

US is an ally and China is a threat.

But the superpowers,

they're all here. Ang alam ko, lahat ng Intel

assets nung isa, nandito na eh, di ba?

They're trying to fight and of course

they have their proxies. We don't even need to spell

this out. So a lot is at stake

here. A lot of big geopolitical events.

Kaya nga, you go to US, tayo nag-abroad,

nakikita mo, they pay attention kung Pinoy ka ngayon

kasi we are a very important

country. But speaking

of that, the Philippines is also going through some

interesting changes in its

national security doctrine. I mean, we announced

what is it? 9 trillion

pesos AFP modernization.

Getting submarines, etc.

Navy atong

background, yun?

Your dad was also Navy, right?

So it makes you even more relevant

because a lot of this is about submarines and warships,

etc. First, what is your take

on this US-China competition part and how

much the opposition should be also vigilant?