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00:01.0
Yes, may dyan.
00:03.0
Sir, you said that President Marcos parang commanded you that Senate will take the lead in terms of amending the Constitution.
00:14.1
But mas gusto niyo policy making, so Public Services Act.
00:18.1
But by any chance, does that mean, sir, that you will be, the Senate is more open to charter change this time around since may order na kayo from the President?
00:26.1
Ganito kasi yan, yung the complaints of some of the investors, the question first asked is, do we need to amend the Constitution, right?
00:37.2
So now, we feel in the Senate that after passing the Public Services Act, hindi na po kailangan amendahan yung ating provision when it comes to economic amendments.
00:53.0
Unfortunately, may pending.
00:56.1
May pending case sa Supreme Court, marami po nag-file.
00:59.8
So, anong nangyayari daw, maraming natatakot pumasok sa bansa, dahil maski na meron na po tayong batas, wala pong TRO,
01:08.7
but what if after one or two years, the Supreme Court declares it unconstitutional?
01:14.7
And once the Supreme Court declares it unconstitutional, paano daw nila mababalik sa 60-40 yung kanilang mga investments?
01:22.9
So, may rason.
01:25.0
May mga.
01:26.1
Mabibigat din na rason.
01:27.9
And that's why we are open with the leadership of the Senate.
01:31.3
We had several meetings with the Senators after.
01:34.0
We are open, rather, to discussions on the amendment of the Constitution on these particular provisions.
01:42.4
But we are going to do it separately, voting separately.
01:46.3
And that is why we have prepared a resolution, now signed by myself, Senator Lauren Legarda and Senator Sunny Angara,
01:54.6
on the economic provisions, amendments of the economic provisions of the Constitution.
02:00.8
So, with this, we had asked the majority members, had asked Senator Sunny Angara to lead the subcommittee on the Committee on Constitutional Amendments
02:14.4
to tackle this particular issue.
02:17.7
We chose Senator Sunny Angara kasi kailangan talaga natin dito ay abogado.
02:22.3
So, with your respect.
02:24.5
Hindi ko pa nakakausap si Senator Robin Padilla.
02:28.2
He's still abroad.
02:29.7
But when he comes back, kakausapin po namin siya.
02:32.5
At magre-request po kami na kung pwede, para dito sa usapin na ito, we will ask a creation of a subcommittee for this purpose.
02:41.8
So, just to make a long story short, we had a meeting, the chain of events that had happened.
02:49.0
So, nag-meeting po tayo.
02:53.3
Nakipag-meeting po.
02:54.5
Kay Presidente nung Tuesday.
02:57.0
And I raised the alarm about the People's Initiative.
03:01.1
It was very gracious enough to meet with me.
03:03.9
And we discussed how we can diffuse the situation.
03:09.6
In fairness to the President, hindi niya po alam yung People's Initiative language was to diminish the powers of the Senate.
03:19.8
And after that, he asked me to meet with the Speaker.
03:23.3
We met with the Speaker.
03:24.5
I met with him on Tuesday evening, after which we had the lively and vigorous debate on the issue.
03:38.0
And we all decided to meet with the President once again at 3 p.m. in Malacanang last Thursday.
03:46.4
In that meeting, we were there early.
03:52.7
So,
03:54.5
we met together with Senator Loren Legarda, kasama po namin, si Congressman Sandro Marcos,
04:05.1
SAP Anton Lagdameo,
04:08.1
and the Speaker and myself.
04:12.9
In that meeting, we discussed the scenarios.
04:17.4
And of course, I defended the position of the Senate na talagang malabo yan kasi
04:22.2
as far as we're concerned,
04:24.5
their plan is unconstitutional because we are a bicameral system of government.
04:32.8
Kaya, nung pagkita po natin kay Presidente,
04:36.8
we decided,
04:40.0
the President, first of all, and I'd like to thank the President
04:42.6
for his comment that the P.I. is too divisive.
04:49.6
And he even mentioned news items from the major networks that he watched the night before.
04:54.5
At sabi, oh, nagkakagulo na, bakit nagkakaganyan, may bayaran.
05:00.7
And he said, he even said na, and I thank the President for this,
05:04.7
because he even said na, eh ako dati ako senador.
05:08.5
Eh bilang dating senador, hindi din ako papayag na ma-undermine
05:12.5
o ma-diminish ang kapangyarihan ng senado sa pagdating ng usaping bicameralism
05:19.5
or bicameral form of government.
05:21.4
So, maganda po ang direksyon ng Pangulo.
05:24.5
And ang sabi niya sa akin, at kay Speaker,
05:28.8
sabi niya, why doesn't the Senate take the lead in the discussions of the economic provisions
05:35.0
and then you approve your version which the House can adopt?
05:41.5
So that was the position of the President.
05:44.5
Para hindi na tayo maglalagay pa kung ano-ano pang mga amendments
05:50.1
na sa tingin natin ay magagalit ang taong bayan.
05:53.8
So,
05:54.5
that was quite clear in the meeting.
05:58.1
And that's why in the Van de Onor,
06:00.5
medyo smiling na po kami ng Speaker of the House at ang Presidente ng Senado.
06:06.4
Because we were able to resolve that very big issue.
06:10.3
That night, nag-meeting po kami with the Senators.
06:12.9
We had about 14 Senators that met that night.
06:16.4
And we discussed the possibilities.
06:18.5
Nakuha ko naman po yung full support ng majority of the Senators.
06:24.5
We were also there.
06:27.5
We also are the member of the minority there, Senator Rizontiveros.
06:31.0
And of course, we said to her that we know their position.
06:35.3
We will respect their position.
06:36.8
But I'm being transparent.
06:38.4
As the Senate President, I want to be transparent
06:40.4
that these discussions will be taking place once the Senate resumes on January 22.
06:48.5
Sir, sorry sa pa.
06:49.5
Sir, kasi ever since naman, di ba, divided yung Senate in terms of CHA-CHA.
06:53.3
And parang kayo mismo,
06:54.5
may nagsabi dati, Sir, na pag pinush yan, hindi talaga yan mananalo dito sa Senate.
06:58.8
But since kayo mismo, Sir, yung may reso na,
07:01.0
did you get the support of the 14 Senators para pumasa po yung economic provisions CHA-CHA?
07:06.1
We got the support of all the Senators that were there except, of course, for the minority.
07:10.9
The minority is Lanko Mittal.
07:12.2
They have to see the amendments first.
07:14.3
They want to participate in discussions and the debates.
07:17.0
I'm talking about Senator Riza.
07:18.6
She was the one who said na wala po na siyang may dadagdag.
07:23.0
Although she was happy that the discussions will be moving away from the plan of the P.I. na ikapon kami.
07:33.0
Happy po silang lahat na ang sinabi ng Pangulo na dapat dito na tayo sa ganitong kasip proseso.
07:41.8
Hindi po yung sa gusto ng PIPOS initiative na yan na EDSA Puerra na gusto nilang ikapon ang Senado
07:50.4
at magkakaroon po ng mga...
07:53.0
posibleng amendments na hindi po natin makokontrol bilang Senado.
08:00.1
Because you have to remember that the gist of this proposal ay pagdating po ng isang Constituent Assembly
08:09.0
which can be called by either one, ha?
08:11.5
Hindi joint.
08:12.8
Either one can call for this.
08:15.0
Ay three-fourths vote lamang ang kailangan.
08:18.2
So I did a simple computation.
08:20.6
Kung 300 Congressman yun,
08:23.0
24 Senators, that's 324.
08:25.8
Technically, three-fourths vote is only 243.
08:30.5
So maski na po mag-walkout po tayo,
08:33.5
maski na po absent kami,
08:37.1
they can amend the Constitution.
08:38.3
And we can no longer protect the people's interest in the system of checks and balances that we are...
08:44.0
which is enshrined by the Constitution through a bicameral form of government.
08:48.0
So...
08:51.0
No, no. We need a...
08:52.3
a total...
08:52.9
a total of 18 votes when it comes to amending.
08:56.0
Kasi two-thirds ang 16, three-fourths is 18.
08:59.0
Sir, pumalap ko si the Speaker na masasempre lang sa economic provisions, yung any amending.
09:05.1
Well, ang binabanggit niya palagi eh, diyan lang naman siya gustong mag-amend eh, dahil sa economic provisions.
09:11.1
According to him, officially in front of me.
09:14.2
Any... I don't want to put any words in the Speaker's mouth.
09:17.0
I would rather that you ask the Speaker himself on his position on this matter.
09:20.7
But it's clear na he's speaking...
09:22.9
for the... for the 300 members of the House of Representatives during their meeting.
09:28.6
Nandun din naman si Sandro.
09:30.1
So, Sandro is a senior deputy majority floor leader.
09:34.5
And...
09:35.2
I believe the message was loud and clear.
09:40.2
I hope that the message was loud and clear.
09:42.4
Sir?
09:43.5
So...
09:44.0
SP?
09:45.8
Isundan ko lang yung kay Marlon.
09:47.2
During that meeting, was there a commitment given by Speaker Romualdez...
09:52.9
na they will not support in any other way yung PI?
09:57.3
Because according to PIRMA, they are working on this, on the PI, in coordination with the Congress.
10:08.4
I no longer want to fight with my colleagues in Congress.
10:13.3
One week po ako hindi nakakatulog.
10:16.4
Kaya hindi rin ako nakakasagot sa inyo dahil may iinahis po tayong gusot and...
10:21.6
We were able to...
10:22.8
to get consensus from...
10:24.2
from everyone, including the President.
10:26.7
I think those questions about the Speaker should be asked to the Speaker.
10:30.2
Was there a...
10:31.6
How can you...
10:32.2
How can you guard...
10:34.1
the...
10:35.3
the eventual proposal of other members of, for example, the Senate...
10:41.1
with respect to...
10:42.4
Kasi sabi nyo nga po, economic provision lang.
10:44.8
Pero siyempre, independent-minded naman ng mga Senators.
10:48.7
And some really want some political amendments.
10:52.8
Well, ang mangyayari diyan, my dear colleagues,
10:57.7
when discussions on, for example,
11:00.7
if you see the resolution that we will file today,
11:04.8
nakapirma na kaming tatlo,
11:06.4
if you see the resolution that we filed today,
11:08.4
it's limited to yung amendments to public services,
11:13.3
as well as education,
11:16.4
and as well as advertising.
11:20.2
We got the guide from the President.
11:22.8
I hope that the President will not be upset if I share this information.
11:30.7
Pero si President mismo, ayaw niya ng lupa na ibigay sa foreigners.
11:34.3
Siya mismo nagsabi, malabo yun.
11:37.4
He said that, and I quote the President,
11:39.8
this will give us problems in our housing program.
11:42.9
It will increase tax rates, and it will increase prices of land in the Philippines.
11:50.7
And he even cited some countries kung saan,
11:52.8
na may foreign ownership,
11:55.2
na yung mga mismong locals ay hindi na po nakaka-afford ng lupa dun at lumalabas na.
12:02.7
Kaya nga nagkakaroon ng Asian 8,
12:04.7
dahil may mga areas na Vancouver, Toronto, and Canada,
12:08.0
wherein a lot of Chinese, Hong Kong nationals pumunta dun,
12:13.1
binili lahat ng property.
12:14.9
Yung mga Canadians na original,
12:18.4
lumalabas na, hindi na nila ma-afford yung lupa,
12:22.8
tsaka apartments dun sa mga lugar na yun.
12:26.6
So we'd like to thank the President for that,
12:28.6
because we are one in the Senate also not to agree on foreign land ownership.
12:33.3
So maganda, mayroon po siyang direction na sinabi,
12:36.7
keep away land from ownership.
12:41.0
And even media, sabi niya.
12:43.8
Ayaw din niya ng media, kasi kung may foreign ownership of media,
12:48.0
baka mag-influence peddling pa yan dito on certain agendas.
12:51.2
So ayaw din niya po yun.
12:52.8
So we're limiting it as far as the Senate is concerned,
12:56.7
that Thursday night.