ROBIN PADILLA X PASTOR QUIBOLOY feat ATTY. CLAIRE CASTRO
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00:00.4
Alright! Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa namang live stream.
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Mga kabatas natin, ito nga, merong mainit-init din na Senate hearing na nangyayari
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kung saan naglalabasan yung mga witnesses ni Pastor Kibuloy.
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Ngayon, maraming tao nagtataka.
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Okay? Maraming tao nagtataka.
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Ang pinagtataka nila, bakit wala daw ibang senador na sumasama?
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Ngayon, hindi naman ganun.
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Kasi may sumama, mga kabatas natin.
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May sumama si Robin.
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Pero mga kabatas natin, may ibang testigo na ginawa si Robin.
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O panuorin natin ito, mga kabatas natin, kay Atty. Claire Castro.
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At mag-uusap tayo.
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May tungkol dito, mga kabatas natin. Okay?
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Ito ang sabi, partner.
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I was not yet a senator at that time.
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I was an actor known for giving away money.
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But not even once did Pastor Kibuloy ask me for money.
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Matagal ko na pong kilala.
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So, yun. Yun daw yung sinabi.
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Pakinggan nyo. Pakinggan nyo.
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Did Pastor Kibuloy ask me for money?
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Matagal ko na pong kilala si Pastor Kibuloy.
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Magkasama po kami, ma'am, noong panahon ng
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Pangulo po ay si Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
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Kami pong dalawa ay magkasama sa
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Presidente Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo
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na magkaroon ng kapayapaan sa
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tignan nyo. Parang may testimony nga ito.
02:10.8
Lumalabas na parang may testimony dito
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si Robin Padilla.
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Sinasabi niya nga na noong panahon
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ni Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo,
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magkasama sila ni Pastor Kibuloy
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para sa peace ng buong Pilipinas.
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Sabi ni Sendong Siya Witness,
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Ewan ko, tignan natin
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Tignan din natin yung reaction ni
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Atty. Claire, okay?
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Hindi pa sinaturno
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Ako po ay isang artista
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Pagbibigay ng pera
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Sa usapin na pagbibigay ng pera
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Dito ako unang magko-comment
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Hindi porki kasi nakatulong
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O kaya nagbibigay ng pera
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Eh pwede nang maging senador
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Ang dami niyang revelation dito
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Na medyo nakakagulat kasi
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Pagsalitain natin
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Yun muna ang sasabihin ko
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Pero kahit isang beses
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Hindi po ako hininga
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Sabi niya Silent Observer
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Resource person ata
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Nagtataas ng boses
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Hindi siya bastos
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Hindi po ako hiningan ng pera
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Ni Pastor Kiboloy
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Yun nga ang testigo niya
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Matagal ko na siyang
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Tapos namimigay naman daw siya ng pera
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Hindi niya daw hiningan ng pera
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Si Pastor Kiboloy
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O tignan natin yung
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Ito naman sa akin
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Pagkakataon na nga niya
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May kasama si Sen. Tevero
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Imagine mo partner
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Binanggitin natin
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Noong nakaraang araw
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Bakit walang pumapasok
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Sumasama sa hindi na to
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Napaka-controversial
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Especially si Pastor Kiboloy
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Pag-accurate naman
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Alam nyo naman na yung position ko dyan
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Na when it comes to
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You have to file that in court
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Pero may papaliwanag si ano dito eh
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May ipapaliwanag dito sa Attorney Claire eh
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Kasi this is an investigation
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In aid of legislation
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Imagine mo partner
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Doon palang makikita mo
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Gano ba kalakas si Pastor Kiboloy
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So kung di siya hiningan
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Di niya hiningan yung iba
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Parang gano'n siguro
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Pero bakit nagtagal?
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Yun din yung issue dyan
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Na gustong i-issue
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Kay Pastor Kiboloy
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Tapos sinasabi ni
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Actually ang nangyari naman
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Ipag-isipan ng negatibo
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Hindi mo maiiwasan
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Pumunta ng Mindanao
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Eh nandiyan ka nasa Senado
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Pagpunta mo sa Senat
06:00.8
Mga kabatas natin
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Kaya Atty. Claire magre-react
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Dadagdagan ko na lang
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Eh sobrang nga daw
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Ang dami niyang ginagawa
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O yung mga administrative
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Hindi na daw niya
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Nakakalimutan na niya
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So hindi nga ganun
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Nagpakita sila ng picture
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With spiritual leader
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Juan Miguel Zubiri
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To the kingdom of Jesus Christ
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The special allotment release
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Intended for the development
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Of Barangay Tamayong
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On September 12, 2009
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When the senator visited Davao
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Witnessing the turnover ceremony
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And beneficiary is
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Barangay Tamayong
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Gregorio C. Canada
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Hindi nga ganun ka importante
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Yung hiling ni Quiboloy sa kanya
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Kasi kung importante yan
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Yung importante sa kanya
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Hindi yun ang priority niya
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Kaya nga nadili ng ganun
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Maipaliliwanag nila
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Or ipaliliwanag nila
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Kaya't maiging sa kanya
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Diba nagkikita naman kayo sa station hall
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Hindi nyo na pa natanong kay
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What's keeping him
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Tinanong ko nga po
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Para din po sa inyo
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Ipaliliwanag nila
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Pinaliwanag niya sa inyo
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Kapag tinanong nyo sa kanya
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So hindi pinaliwanag sa inyo ma'am?
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Kasi para sa akin nga
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Gaya ng sinabi nyo rin
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Ministerial naman ito eh
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Or halos lahat yata
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Sabina at request
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Yeah mga kabatas natin
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Papaliwanag ko sa inyo
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Ang ministerial kasi
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Mga kabatas natin
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Na non-ministerial
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Mga kabatas natin
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It is something that
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You are duty bound
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Without discretion
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Yung kabaliktaran ng ministerial
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Yung discretionary
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Pwede mong pirmahan
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Pag ministerial yan
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Pag biniligay sa harap mo
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Tapos ministerial yan
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Yung duty mo na pumirma
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Ministerially pinirmahan
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Naalala halimbawa
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Ng legis staff ko
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Panahon na iniimbestiga namin
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Posibleng direct hit
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Di rin ako intrigera
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Yung sinabi ni SP
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Kapag tinanong nyo
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Ipaliliwanag niya
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O hindi niya aminin
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Hindi priority sa kanya
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Kailan bang hearing
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So kailan lang niya pinirmahan?
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This was 11 hours ago
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This was 11 hours ago
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May schedule ako eh
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Kasi hindi mo agad
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Paano mo iisipin?
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Eh isampay nyo na lang sa court
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Isampay nyo na lang sa court
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Eh siyempre mga criminal cases naman
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Dapat isampas sa court
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Dapat isampas sa court
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Si Pastor Kibuloy
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Kung doon isasampas
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Hindi ko ina-undermine
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Well yung sinasabi kasi ni
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Kasi mga kabatas natin
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Like I always tell you
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In criminal cases
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Venue is jurisdictional
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Yung mga nangyaring krimen
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Doon sila nangyari
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Meron namang exemption
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There is prejudice
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Ng change of venue
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Wala na tayong justisya sa bansa
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Investigahan din nila
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Yung ibang mga lumantad
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Kung naharas ba o hindi
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Di ba may nagsampanan nga ng kaso
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Na-dismiss sa fiscal's office pa lang
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Alam nyo kasi mga kabatas natin
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May mga realities din kasi
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Ito yung parang sinasabi ni Atty. Claire
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There are actually realities din
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We believe in the system
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She believes in the system
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Pero ang malaking problema kasi dyan
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May mga nakakapasok na corrupt sa sistema
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Yun yung mga kalaban
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Yun yung nagiging problema
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Yun ang nagiging problema
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Our laws are good
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The justice system is good
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May mga tao na nakakapasok
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Sila yung naninira
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Ang problema naman kasi
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Ang iniisip ng mga tao
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Especially yung mga
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Mahihirap daw na sinasabi ni Rafi Tulfo
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Ayan lang sinasabi na ang hostisya
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Ay para lang sa mayaman
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Itong mga corrupt na tao
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Na nakakapasok sa sistema natin
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Justice system man yan
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Administrative system man yan
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O kahit anong sistema natin
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E pera kasi ang hinahanap nila
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Pag hindi naman pera
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Ganyan yung nangyayari
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How can we reduce these corrupt people
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From our justice system?
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Yun yung dapat gawin
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If we need to file cases
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Let's file cases against them
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Tulad nga yung sinabi ko
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Siyempre ako sinasabi ko
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Yung justice system
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Pag may nakikita rin
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We file cases against them
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Tulad nga yung sinabi ko
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Hindi na ako magiging mabait
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Things that we don't think are
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Yun yun ang kailangan natin gawin
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Tulad nga yung sinabi ko
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Ang pinakakatawang siguro natin dito
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Pag aabot yung Supreme Court
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Kasi nga at least
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Pag dumaan sa Supreme Court yan
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Pag gumawa sila ng
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O gumawa sila ng desisyon
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Magiging parte ng batas yan
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Kapag nangyari yun
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Mga kabatas natin
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Kapag nangyari yun
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May sinasabi mo na
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Kurapang isang tao
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Finailan mo ng kaso
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Yung finailan mo ng kaso
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Sinabi hindi pala kurap
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Mali yung finail mong kaso
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Ang dami ng kakampi
14:45.6
Ganong kalakas yung kanyang clout?
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You can also assume that
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Atty. Claire here
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May implication na
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Kasi kinampihan dito ni
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Senator Padilla eh
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Kinampihan din ni
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Hindi naman directly
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Pero pero yun ang sinasabi nila
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Sa pamamagitan ng hindi pagpirma agad
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Parang ganun yung sinasabi nyo
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Wala tayong magagawa
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Kung ang purpose naman
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Sa pagkakaroon ng hearing
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In aid of legislation
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In aid of legislation
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Mukhang napatunayan kanina
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Na nagkakaroon ng purpose
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Pag sa simbahan kasi
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Talagang honorarium lang
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Yang ibigay sa'yo
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Madulong ka sa halimbawa sa art
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So ikaw yung gagawa ngayon
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Ang art sa simbahan
16:09.6
Pero voluntary yun
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Gagawa yung papel mo
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Wala kang obligasyon
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Hindi ka sasampalin
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Hindi ka parurusahan
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I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree I agree
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Sino kaya ang mas powerful
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Ang Diyos na buhay
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Mukhang pareho yata sila
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Hindi ka palulukot eh
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Hindi ka papahira ng sili
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Sa masiselang parte ng katawan mo
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Kasi voluntary yun
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At yung tinatrabaho mo partner
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Ay nagiging commercial na
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Pasok sa voluntary work
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Maganda nga naman
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Kasi yung punto dito ni
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Kung voluntary work talaga
17:06.6
You work at your own pace
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You work only if you want to work
17:14.6
Persahin kang magtrabaho
17:17.6
Papersahin kang magtrabao
17:23.6
Definition kasi ng working hours
17:26.6
Meron tayong legal na definition sa batas natin ng working hours mga kapatid natin
17:36.7
Working hours mga kapatid natin
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Pag makikita nyo dito
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Pag makikita nyo dito mga kapatid natin
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Conditions of employment sa DOLE mga kapatid natin
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Normal hours of work
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Makikita nyo lagi dito mga kapatid natin
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Eto yung pinaka definition nya
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Hours worked shall include
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All time during which an employee is required
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Nirequire ka na magtrabaho
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So ibig sabihin mga kapatid natin
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Kapag nirequire ka na magtrabaho
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Hindi na voluntary yun
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Ibig sabihin trabaho na yung binibigay sa'yo
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Kasi you are required to be on duty
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Or to be at a prescribed workplace
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All time during which an employee is suffered
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Or permitted to work
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So kung hinahayaan ka magtrabaho
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Sige magtrabaho ka
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Pero mga kapatid natin
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Na mag-a-apply sa kanila dito
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Required to be on duty
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Or at a prescribed workplace
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Tignan nyo kasi kung ano yung testimony nila
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Hindi ko sinasabing totoo ito ha
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Pero walang nga sinasabi ko
19:34.2
Mag-aaral tayo tungkol sa batas dito
19:36.2
As Eleanor Caldona
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Pero hindi ako piniwal
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Hindi po naniwala
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Pagkos pinagalitan ako ang sinagpal dahil
19:46.2
Hindi po naniwala sa Caldona
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Sa voluntary work
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CEO ng McDonald's KG's
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Na si Eleanor Caldona
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Pero hindi ako piniwal
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Hindi po naniwala
19:59.2
Pagkos pinagalitan ako ang sinagpal dahil
20:02.2
Grabe na daw po yung yawa sa loob ko
20:05.2
Nag-fasting ako ng 7 araw na walang kain
20:08.2
Gusto ko na po tawagan yung family ko para
20:11.2
Tumingin ng tulong
20:13.2
Pero wala na po akong cellphone
20:15.2
Kalagitan po ng 2020
20:18.2
Ako po ay aside sa SMI News
20:23.2
Bila po researcher
20:25.2
8am to 4pm po yung duty ko sa newsroom
20:28.2
At 6pm to 11pm naman po po namamali mo
20:32.2
Si Tina San Pedro po
20:34.2
Na boss namin sa SMI
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At siya din nagsasabi sa amin na kailangan namin ma-hit
20:40.2
Yung aming mga goals
20:42.2
Minsan din ko hindi ko po ito naaabot dahil na rin
20:46.2
Sa pagod sa duty sa newsroom
20:48.2
Kaya sinagpal po ako at sinakampas ng libro ni Tina San Pedro po
20:49.2
At sinakampas ng libro ni Tina San Pedro po
20:50.2
Yung pag nakikita niyo
20:53.2
Pag nakikita niyo yung sinabi niya
20:55.2
Meron silang required na gawin
20:58.2
Tapos pag hindi nila nagagawa sinasampal sila o sinasaktan
21:03.2
Duty mo sa newsroom may sweldo ka pa doon?
21:06.2
Sa seminary po Madam Chair
21:08.2
Wala po ang mga worker po doon
21:11.2
Ito may sweldo ka pa doon
21:14.2
Balikan natin yung definition
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You are required to work
21:20.2
Nire-require siya na magtrabaho doon
21:22.2
So ibig sabi hindi na voluntary working hours na
21:25.2
Tama yung sinasabi ni Atty. Claire
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Sa seminary wala po kaming sahod monthly
21:31.2
Wala po din kaming mga benefits
21:33.2
Pero like I said I don't assume that these are true okay
21:37.2
Tulad ng sinabi ko academic discussion nito kung ganyan nga yung nangyayari
21:41.2
Well without actually hypothetically if that is happening
21:47.2
Without actually saying or admitting that
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Then it's considered hours work
21:56.2
Yung binibigyan lang po kami ni Tivoli ng may tinatawag ng honorary honorarium
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Pero depende po yun
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Depende pa din po yun sa mood niya
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Kung magbibigay siya o hindi
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Pasok na yun talaga
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Sa work na under ka nasa labor code
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Kasi kanina may nadinig ako partner
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Sabi niya hindi daw sila pasok sa labor code
22:25.2
Hindi dapat kung magawalang employer-employee relationship
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Because voluntary ito
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If I may add also
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Ito ito maganda rin kasi yung pag-usapan nito yung sinasabi nila
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Walang employer-employee relationship ito kasi voluntary nga
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Totoo naman yun kung voluntary siya
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May add Atty. Laurente
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Thank you Madam Chair
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With regards also of course I would like to go back to the issue about the salary
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We have a salary as to
22:50.2
As being employed by the JMCFI
22:53.2
However as full-time miracle workers of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ
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Because this is a religious organization
22:59.2
A corporation sold
23:00.2
So we don't have salary
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But we call them Honorarium Madam Chair
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Honorarium po attorney na 200 to 300 pesos
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A week depende sa mood ni Pastor
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Again I beg to disagree with that Madam Chair as full-time miracle worker
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Because Madam Chair that is not really the amount
23:20.2
Again it is upon this burden of proof
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For example it depends Madam Chair
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Like for example it ranges to
23:28.2
We cannot give you the exact like 3,000, 4,000, 5,000
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It depends upon the salary
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It depends upon the ministry that was entrusted to you
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Of course the longer the senior workers have
23:42.2
Of course it depends
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We have performance appraisal
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At yung 2,000 or 3,000 or 5,000 a week ayon
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It depends again Madam Chair
23:54.2
So again we are not based of
23:57.2
We are serving because this is voluntary
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This is being a missionary
24:02.2
So this is not actually employment for the record Madam Chair
24:05.2
As full-time miracle worker
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So what we were pertaining when we said
24:08.2
When we said a while ago that we had a salary is
24:11.2
As being employed in the JMCFI
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For the record Madam Chair
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What do you mean when you said earlier
24:18.2
It depends on the mood
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It depends on the mood of the pastor
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I'm sorry Madam Chair
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That is not true Madam Chair
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Based on all of the
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Based on all the testimonies
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And what is actually happening
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In the Kingdom of Jesus Christ Madam Chair
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So actually it is upon his burden
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It is his burden to prove
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That that is really the so-called salary
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Or honorarium that he is accepting
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The committee knows that Atty. Laurel
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Atty. Lady Laurel
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Aye am Mindanao said something
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Through an attorney
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There are those who sell
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A while ago here in Dubai
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They are members of the church
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Making an exchange
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For the study of their brethren
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There in the Philippines
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This will be all allegations
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Here they testified
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Testified, if they have sworn statements, magiging affidavits to and they can be liable for perjury if they are not telling the truth.
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Kasi sinabi rin itong pagpapaaral eh.
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Sabi niya, you volunteered, do it for God.
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Sinong hahabulin mo doon?
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But the abuse, if it happened, should be addressed.
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I agree, panfilo.
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Sabi ni Kadama sa Jordan,
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may mga documentaries about cults.
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Kasi meron din silang mga ini-employ talaga na mga psychological tactics
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para itong mga tao sa kanila e maniwala at kalimutan mag-isip.
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Okay? Meron dyan yung mga repetitions, kung ano-ano pa.
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Siguro pag-aaralan natin yan eventually.
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May mga studies na naginawa dyan.
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hindi ko naman sinasabi na kulto itong kay Pastor Cubolo
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because we don't have any proof in relation to that.
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Pero kung kunwari, yun nga,
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base lang dito sa mga allegations nila,
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ganyan din kasi yung mga galawan na mga kulto.
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Diba? Pero tulad na rin na sinasabi ko,
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hindi naman considered as truth ito.
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Eto si Addictus Rex,
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meron siyang nirecommend yung how to be accused.
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He's a cult leader sa Netflix.
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Hindi nyo naman ikinaila na nagtatrabaho siya sa SMNI newsroom.
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So yung burden of proof, na-shift na sa inyo.
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Kayo na ang magpo-prove ngayon kung siya ay nababayaran ba sa ginagawa niyang trabaho.
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Hindi sa simbahan ha, kundi sa SMNI newsroom.
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E i-describe muna natin kung ano ba yung voluntary work.
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Tapos yung pinupunto kasi dito ni...
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Yung pinupunto ni Claire din.
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Yung pinupunto niya dito...
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Yung mga voluntary work kasi is in relation to religious activities.
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Ngayon ang question din kasi na maganda yan,
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kapag nandun ka sa newsroom,
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religious activity ba yun kapag ikaw ay nagbabalita?
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Diba? Kasi news na ito eh.
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Is it still considered a religious activity?
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Kasi pag nagbabalita naman sila, kunwari sa SMNI,
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they don't just preach the gospel.
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They don't just do religious work there.
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They also do news work.
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Like for example, nagbabalita sila.
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Tapos alam din natin yung sobrang aktibo nila sa NTF-ELCAC dati.
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Is that still religious work?
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When in fact, if you are, syempre,
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talking about that as political and not religious.
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Diba? There is a huge distinction between political work and religious work.
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Tandaan natin, ang mga nagtatrabaho diyan, worker ang tawag.
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Ilang oras nagtatrabaho.
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Kapag ba hindi nagtrabaho yan, ay pastor ayoko muna magtrabaho.
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Okay lang ba o pinapagalitan sila?
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Diba? Kapag meron ng oras,
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meron ng mga rules.
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Dapat 5 o'clock, gising ka na, ito ang gawin mo, ito ang gawin mo.
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At inoobliga na sila.
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Inoobliga na sila.
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Inoobliga na sila. Kaya ito, sabi ni Obscure,
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may sahod na dapat dyan sa SMNI.
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Sabi niya, di yan part ng ministry.
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Obscure, salamat dun sa pagkanta dun sa parody natin.
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Thank you very much. Ang ganda nung ginawa mo doon.
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Dun sa mga hindi pa nakaka-subscribe,
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nakakapanood ng mga videos dun sa parody natin.
29:33.7
Puntahan niyo, ang damay-damay na akong ginawang parody.
29:36.7
Ang gaganda po ng mga lyrics. Ang gagaling nilang kumanta.
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Sana tangkilikin natin.
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They poured their heart and souls into it.
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Maraming salamat sa lahat na nagko-contribute sa parody natin.
29:52.7
Sabi ni Anna Terry, sabi niya,
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Since 1992, member ang ate ko. Naubos na lahat nang meron sila.
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In few occasions, nakita ko na din ng personal si Kibs.
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Hindi na yun. Voluntary. Dapat yun. May payment na.
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May payment na yun. Dapat meron na mga ano yun. May mga benefits.
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Including SSS, PhilHealth, pag-ibig.
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Tama. Kasi if you are required to work
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without a contract. Ito ulitin ko ulit mga kabatas natin.
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If you are required to work without a contract,
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that is considered regular employment. Bakit?
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Kasi parang yung absolute community of property mga kabatas natin
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or absolute community of properties.
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Kapag walang kontrata,
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walang prenuptial agreement. Diba? Kontrata din yun eh.
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Kung walang prenuptial agreement, ang magde-default ay
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absolute community of properties. Diba?
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Hindi magde-default yung complete separation of properties.
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Hindi rin magde-default yung conjugal partnership of gains.
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Ngayon, kapag labor naman ang usapan,
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kapag trabaho naman ang usapan,
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kung walang kontrata,
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walang employment contract,
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magde-default yan lagi sa regular employment.
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Kaya tama yung sinabi mga kabatas natin ni Atty. Clare
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and I agree with her na
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yun, dapat meron na silang benefits.
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Kasi if you are a regular employee,
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you are entitled to benefits, yung mga sinabi niya.
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Tapos siyempre, meron din yung tinatawag nilang security of tenure
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kung saan hindi ka pwedeng tanggalin ng basta-basta
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without just or authorized and or authorized.
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Okay, yan lang mga kabatas natin.
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Maraming salamat sa inyo.
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Tuloy natin bukas.
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Dalawa lang muna yung ating livestream ngayon.
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Meron akong bisita.
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Maraming salamat po.
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At siyempre, tulungan lang yung sinasabi,
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matulog po tayo ng mahimbing.
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Dahil alam natin,
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yan, dito, parody natin.
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Yan, volunteer yung mga yan.
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Matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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dahil alam natin na yung natutulog ng mahimbing,
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siya yung lagi yung panalo.
