00:52.7
Tapos, nagkahanap ako ng gasolinahan.
00:54.6
Tapos, napadaan ako dito sa may biyak na bato na street. Malapit sa Banawe.
00:59.6
Tapos, malapit sa amin to eh. Tapos, parang nakita ko.
01:03.3
Ay, ito. May clean fuel. Mura daw dito. Okay daw dito.
01:07.8
Lahat ng mga sinasakyan kong taxi, clean fuel sila eh.
01:11.3
Kasi maganda yung point system daw.
01:13.9
So, subuan po nga.
01:15.5
Pag-lapit ko, biglang, uy, teka. Parang bago ng endorser nila.
01:21.2
So, bumaba ako ng sasakyan.
01:25.4
Nag-picture ako. Pakita ko ito.
01:27.9
Ayan ang aking picture. Teka natin.
01:29.6
Basahin natin. Basahin natin. Nakalagay. Ano yun?
01:32.2
Ano yun? Joya ng pump?
01:36.5
Ano yun? Be rewarded in every pump.
01:42.2
Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh my God.
01:44.9
This is so bad. This is so bad.
01:47.1
Be rewarded at every pump. I'm sorry, man. I'm just saying.
01:52.5
Hindi naman sa nag-isip ako ng iba.
01:54.6
Sinasabi ko, now open.
01:57.6
Tapos merong maganda, di ba? Merong kang reward with every pump.
02:02.6
Oh my God. I'm so sorry. This is not good.
02:08.6
Alam mo, ngayon pare, hindi naman masabi yung ano eh.
02:11.6
Reward system nila, maganda.
02:14.6
Kaya, gustong-gustong siya ng mga taxi driver. Kasi,
02:17.6
pagkada gas mo, makiipon ka ng points, tapos ipapalit ng electric pan, rice cooker.
02:22.6
Yun yung rewarded in every pump.
02:23.6
Kada pump ng gasolina. Kaya, malakas yung clean fuel.
02:29.6
Tapos, endorser mo pa. O, di ba? Trending ngayon.
02:33.6
O, kaya, nagpa-picture talaga ako. Kasi, natuwa ako dito sa ano.
02:37.6
Natuwa ako dito sa bagong gasolina. Sabi ko, dito na ako magpapagasolina. Sa amin.
02:43.6
Ilan ba itong, ilan bang mga gas station na joy at every pump na eh?
02:48.6
Reward at every pump. Marami ba?
02:50.6
Reward at ang joy.
02:52.6
Walang joy at every pump. Mayor yun ang QC. Ito dito, rewarded with every pump.
02:58.6
Nakom, baka pa ano tayo, may MTRCB ba sa mga ano ba? May MTRCB ba?
03:05.6
Ang pinag-uusapan natin, yun naman sa up nung Green Fuel. Yun naman yun. Diba?
03:13.6
Of course, yung kanilang endorser, very trendy si Dominic Roque. Diba? Kaya…
03:18.6
Wala. Bro, blind item tayo. Bakit mo? Nadraw?
03:20.6
Blind item tayo? Bakit mo? Nadrop yung name? Ano ka ba nasira mo? Nagpa-blind item na nga ako.
03:27.6
Ang sinasabi ko lang, bro, ang pinaka-ano, pinaka-ebedensya naka-arrive ka na sa buhay is kung may gas station ka na. Kasi…
03:38.6
Hindi ko nga sure. Hindi ko nga sure. Kung, kasi cis-mis lang naman eh. Hindi ko talaga alam kung talaga bang meron na siyang sarili niya.
03:46.6
Or, or parang in-invento na lang yun ng mga marites.
03:50.6
Baka naman in-invento. Baka naman endorser lang siya eh.
03:53.6
Wait lang. Wait lang. Siguraduin natin itong pumasok kay si Ronald Llamas. Baka may ibang naikinig sa atin.
04:02.6
Kasi now open eh. Bago eh. Hindi kaya ito yung franchise.
04:05.6
Ayan na. Ayan na si bossing. Wait lang.
04:07.6
O yan. Pasok natin. Para baka may, may ano siya.
04:10.6
Bilang ex… Kamusta sir Ronald? Eto na.
04:16.6
Anong kailangan kong cis-mis sa inyo?
04:19.6
Anong kailangan ko ni Richard ng ano, ng franchise ng gasoline station?
04:23.6
Sama ka. Tatlo tayo.
04:25.6
Ayoko man ba. San ba ako pwede kumuha na walang payo?
04:31.6
Sir Ronald, kamusta naman dyan? Wilang political affairs secretary.
04:35.6
Updated ka ba sa mga gas station ano, memes?
04:41.6
Mark, you wanna go ahead, explain what's, ano itong gas station story na ito?
04:47.6
Kasi sir Ronald…
04:49.6
Para sa mga, baka naman yun yung sa audience natin hindi naka, hindi nalalaman yung story.
04:54.6
Kasi meron lang, eto blind item. Biglang blind item. Merong, merong…
04:59.6
Hey! Kung gusto mag-blind item, ulitin ko tong recording.
05:03.6
Hindi na. Okay lang. Okay lang. Okay lang. Hindi na. Hindi na. Hindi na.
05:05.6
So merong mga chis-mis na lumalabas. Chis-mis lang naman to. Kasi diba, naghiwalayan bigla si Bea tsaka si Dominic Roque. Engaged na eh.
05:15.6
Tapos ang daming lumalabas ng mga issue, ang daming lumalabas ng mga chismis.
05:21.6
Merong isang chismis na lumabas na meron daw siyang sariling franchise ng gasolin station.
05:28.6
So, chismis lang naman yun. It's either that or kasi endorser kasi siya.
05:35.6
So, pinakita ko kay Richard, dun sa may amin, siya yung endorser. Ito yung tagline, ano yung tagline ulit Richard?
05:42.6
Baka hindi nabutan ni Sir Ronald eh.
05:45.6
Be rewarded in every pump.
05:49.3
Yun yung tagline nila.
05:50.6
Be rewarded in every pump.
05:54.2
Yun yung gasolina,
05:58.1
Sir, sir, sir, Mark,
05:59.5
pero wala naman problema
06:01.3
kung may gas station ka.
06:02.5
Bakit naging controversial
06:03.7
itong issue ng gas station?
06:06.8
Kasi parang may mga business na
06:10.0
kasi pati yung kondo
06:12.2
na tinitiran daw,
06:13.9
may mga ganun eh.
06:15.6
Na ang daming politikong na damay.
06:17.5
Ang daming mga politiko.
06:22.4
O nung gas station.
06:26.7
Yung gas station.
06:29.4
Ayan, yung gas station
06:30.6
doon sa isang politiko
06:33.4
na involved doon sa gas station.
06:41.2
Kasi ang next na topic natin,
06:43.8
Mayroon din sinabi sa Iwana na
06:47.6
hindi yung mayor.
06:49.4
Bustesman, hindi mayor.
06:52.3
Bago tayo pumunta kay Iwana,
06:54.1
tapusin muna ito.
06:56.1
Iwana, Iwana ka naman.
07:02.8
tapos kunin natin yung analysis
07:06.2
marami ka bang kilalang politiko
07:07.6
na nang mimigay ng gas station
07:09.3
sa kanilang mga...
07:11.0
Nagpapatira sa kondo.
07:12.2
Kondo, parang ano na yun.
07:14.7
Kondo, parang gas station, bro.
07:17.7
Naka-arrive ka na sa buhay.
07:20.2
Arrive na, arrive na.
07:21.5
Ganon yung slogan, eh.
07:25.8
Rewired it natin.
07:30.0
Dapat may MTRCB yan, eh.
07:31.8
Doble ang trante yan, ah.
07:33.5
May mga alam ako,
07:35.3
pero hindi ko pwede sabihin, eh.
07:37.8
Pero anong blind item mo?
07:39.6
Sige, blind item.
07:41.7
Parehas yung dalawa.
07:42.9
Parehas yung dalawa.
07:45.3
Hindi lang, hindi lang,
07:46.1
hindi lang one-side yun, ah.
07:48.0
Hindi lang one-side yun.
07:51.4
Hindi ko nasasabihin.
07:52.4
Deligado, Sir Ronald, ah.
07:54.3
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
07:55.2
Wait, wait, wait.
08:00.7
sa kabilang gas station.
08:02.6
Sa kabilang gas station.
08:04.7
Mairap na, mairap na.
08:06.7
Parang pinamak pa tayo
08:08.2
lalo ni Sir Ronald, ah.
08:10.9
Pero Sir Ronald talaga,
08:12.3
uso pa yung mga namimigay
08:14.7
Kondo, ano na yun, eh.
08:16.8
Laos na yung kondo.
08:18.0
Oo, kondo, kotse, no.
08:20.4
Mga luma na yun, eh.
08:21.7
Yung gas station,
08:22.6
hindi ko alam, eh.
08:24.3
may gusto na din ako talagang
08:25.1
sa inyong dalawa.
08:26.1
Kasi yung issue na to,
08:27.2
dito naman naka-ankla, eh.
08:29.0
Yung dahil daw sa pre-nap,
08:30.8
parang naging issue daw
08:31.7
yung pag-sign ng pre-nap.
08:34.5
ano sa tingin nyo
08:35.2
sa panahon ngayon?
08:38.3
dapat ba normal na lang
08:40.4
o tutol kayo dun?
08:43.0
naging issue dyan, eh.
08:45.0
kumirman ng pre-nap
08:45.9
yung isang side daw,
08:47.1
yun yung chismis.
08:48.4
Yung mas mayaman na side
08:50.0
or yung hindi mas mayaman?
08:52.3
mas hindi mayaman.
08:54.0
Wala ako to sa pre-nap, eh.
08:55.2
Dahil sila naman,
08:56.6
di naman sila ganun
08:57.3
kayaman pareho, eh.
09:02.2
Kung isa ay sobrang yaman, no?
09:04.3
Kung isa ay sobrang yaman.
09:05.8
Sila ay hindi ganun kalayo, eh.
09:08.0
I would beg to disagree,
09:14.1
pero narinig naman talaga
09:20.9
ang sinasabi ni Ronald,
09:23.1
kunyari nagkasawa ka ng
09:24.0
billionaire in dollars.
09:27.0
millionaire ka lang in dollars.
09:28.3
Di ba parang ganun, sir Ronald,
09:29.7
Kunyari artista ka,
09:30.9
multimillionaire ka,
09:32.2
isang billion pesos.
09:39.1
na bilyonaryo si Bea,
09:40.9
I doubt that, eh.
09:44.4
money problems din siya.
09:47.4
Nagbebenta nga siya ng mga,
09:49.1
nababalitaan ko lang,
09:50.1
nagbebenta ng assets.
09:53.9
ikaw naman Richard,
09:55.9
kung yung partner mo kanyari,
09:57.2
humingi ng prenup,
10:04.8
kung yung partner mo kanyari,
10:08.5
o kaya ayaw niyang
10:09.4
mag-sign ng prenup,
10:10.5
anong stand mo doon?
10:18.0
At if you're pumped,
10:21.4
ang humingi ng prenup.
10:26.4
dapat meron ka rin
10:29.9
hindi ka kanyang kayaman ngayon,
10:33.2
Paano biglang nanalo ka sa loto?
10:34.4
Or next president.
10:35.3
O, yung mga ganyan,
10:36.5
Paano kung naging
10:38.8
Loan better sa PCSO.
10:43.4
katina ka agad yun.
10:46.0
Baka sa panahon ngayon,
10:47.2
maraming loan better.
10:51.7
yung ma-informate.
10:53.4
hindi ka ba naki-curious?
10:57.7
Hindi ko nga alam.
10:59.0
parang di mo rin alam, eh.
11:01.3
sa'yo mo na ba pulot
11:02.2
yung mga ganyan information?
11:04.8
yung mga political circles,
11:10.2
At one point or another,
11:16.6
Mga tropi friends,
11:18.1
tropi girlfriends,
11:19.4
tropi boyfriends.
11:24.1
kung nakakausap mo
11:25.0
yung mga politiko,
11:25.8
may mga nababalitaan ka
11:33.4
nung cabinet secretary ako,
11:35.4
na nag-report ako
11:37.9
May isang senador?
11:39.2
Parehas lang kami
11:41.0
Sabi ko to sa senador na yun.
11:42.6
Isang kotse mo lang yan, eh.
11:45.7
Bakit pareho tayo
11:49.3
gas station lahat
11:54.6
yung gas station.
11:55.2
Kilala nyo yung senador na yun.
11:60.0
Matagal nilang senador.
12:01.7
ano tayo nagkapareho
12:09.2
natawa lang siya, eh.
12:11.8
pupunta sa kibol,
12:12.6
next topic natin,
12:14.4
Dito muna tayo, ha?
12:16.7
Bago tayo mag-iwana rin.
12:21.1
iwana ka ng iwanan?
12:22.3
Iyan na naman tayo, eh.
12:29.8
etong issue na ngayon,
12:31.0
blind item pa rin dapat, eh.
12:33.5
niya yung blind item natin.
12:35.8
ano yung peacocking din ba yan?
12:37.1
Yung parang yabangan
12:37.9
ng mga politiko na,
12:42.6
Parang ganun natin, no?
12:45.6
parang mga wedding lord
12:46.6
at saka drug lord
12:50.1
Pinagmamalaki nila
12:50.7
sinong hawak nilang politiko,
12:52.7
sinong kanilang girlfriend
12:55.0
o beauty queen, no?
12:57.7
yung mga politiko, eh.
13:00.6
sa mga sindikato.
13:05.0
at saka wedding lord.
13:08.9
at saka wedding lord, no?
13:11.6
intersection, no?
13:13.1
intersection, no?
13:14.6
Pero may separate chart
13:19.1
ang ginagastos mo,
13:21.0
iyayabang mo din.
13:22.2
Kung milyon-milyon
13:22.9
ginagastos mo, eh,
13:24.1
sasarilingin mo lang.
13:27.5
makakano isang gas station
13:30.0
medyo ife-flex mo
13:30.9
sa ibang friends mo
13:33.9
paris ka, ganyan-ganyan.
13:35.3
ang gusto ko hindi gas station,
13:37.7
para environmentally friendly.
13:45.3
Pero, pero, Mark,
13:47.4
yung iba nga dyan,
13:48.2
transactional pa, eh.
13:52.6
magkakaroon ng relasyon
13:53.8
in exchange for, ah,
13:58.0
kung ano siya, ma,
14:00.8
mailagay siya sa mga,
14:06.9
is still publicity, eh.
14:09.9
kung ano yan, eh.
14:11.0
Positis mo yan, eh.
14:11.9
Hindi yan negatis.
14:12.4
Hindi yan negatibo, eh.
14:18.1
sa isang beauty queen, no?
14:19.9
Hindi negative yun.
14:22.5
lalo na sa mga politiko.
14:26.6
may alam nga ako,
14:27.2
may alam nga ako,
14:29.0
may alam nga ako,
14:31.9
Pero nagpapanggap
14:32.7
na heterosexual, eh.
14:35.8
Kasama pa dun yung mga front,
14:37.9
daw, yung mga front.
14:42.4
Lato to ang sasaban na to.
14:46.1
Pero pagdating pala sa hotel,
14:47.4
iba pala yun na sa loob.
14:53.6
baka mapamantay yan, ha?
14:55.7
Hindi ko nasasabihin
14:56.5
kung sino yun, no?
14:57.6
Pero pagdating pala yung kita mo,
15:00.1
Ang kasama, eh, no?
15:01.1
Pupad na sa hotel,
15:02.1
may mga model, no?
15:03.4
Pero pagpasok sa kwarto,
15:14.4
episode dito, ha?
15:19.8
may kalaban ka na ngayon.
15:22.6
Ang marites ng bayan.
15:26.0
Pwede pala tayong ganun.
15:29.6
Sino naman ni Sir OG?
15:31.8
kaya yung binabanggit ni Mark,
15:33.5
yung mga chismis na yan.
15:40.5
There's a reward.
15:42.4
If there's smoke,
15:46.3
When you pump the gas.
15:48.9
Ayan, okay, okay.
15:51.8
environmental friendly.
15:54.0
Parang nalito ko,
15:55.2
Napasukan ko na ito.
15:58.0
Marites group chat.
16:01.6
dapat yung RRM natin
16:02.8
talaga may marites episode.
16:05.3
hindi na ito unique.
16:06.5
Talaga dapat unique tayo.
16:08.0
Ano naman yung kwentos
16:14.5
Ivana, okay, okay.
16:16.9
Hindi sa Hong Kong,
16:20.1
hindi sa Hong Kong.
16:21.3
Hindi ka na lugar,
16:27.9
Tika-tika bakolod yung na chismis,
16:30.0
pero nakita daw sila
16:33.5
Nakita daw sila magkasama.
16:35.4
Ang sabi naman ng politiko,
16:37.3
meron akong kwandon.
16:38.7
Meron akong official na kwandon
16:44.6
doon nagsimula yung chismis.
16:47.2
Makita sila publicly.
16:49.6
wala namang naitatago
16:50.6
sa panahon ng social media,
16:56.1
ka nalang mo dun sa issue na,
16:57.3
hindi ko Hong Kong,
16:58.5
Hong Kong nag-meet or something?
17:05.7
Nag-deny na sila pareho eh,
17:08.2
Sinabi na ni Ivana,
17:11.6
sumakto kasi dun,
17:12.4
sa timing na nag-umamin si Ivana,
17:14.7
na she is dating someone,
17:16.2
na meron siyang boyfriend ngayon,
17:18.0
yung love life niya,
17:20.4
Pero hindi niya sinabi.
17:22.3
biglang lumabas yung issue na yan.
17:24.3
parang saktong-sakto eh.
17:28.6
hindi politician,
17:33.3
businessman din naman yun.
17:35.2
Ang gilala ko yun,
17:37.2
business din ang politics sa atin.
17:39.7
ang gilala ko yun,
17:40.5
dati niyang boyfriend,
17:45.2
na dating artista.
17:47.8
yun ang gilala ko.
17:50.5
hindi na blind item ulit yan.
17:55.9
Patakbo pa yata ang governor ngayon eh.
17:59.9
yung nagpalit ng baby ni Mara
18:01.3
tsaka ni Clara nung araw eh.
18:05.1
Yun ang nakalala ko sa,
18:06.3
sa ano na yan eh.
18:07.7
Masa siya yung nagpalit nung ano,
18:08.7
nung si Mara tsaka si Clara,
18:15.1
baka ganun yung tipo talaga ni Ivana.
18:18.1
Baka ganun talaga yung type eh.
18:22.0
Older gentleman na medyo,
18:25.5
established na sa buhay.
18:30.0
uminit din yata yung sa anak niya,
18:32.2
Na parang merong mga laughing emoji pa.
18:35.3
hindi ko sure eh.
18:36.8
baka may alam yung
18:41.9
ayaw lang sabihin.
18:45.7
naka-emoji yung mukha niya ngayon.
18:47.8
Mukha pa lang yung emoji namin.
18:53.7
diba parang yung pag,
18:55.5
parang mag-negate ka lang.
18:58.0
kasi nilink ka sa isang artista,
18:59.8
yung pag mag-release ka ng statement.
19:01.6
This is to clarify
19:03.7
nag-date ni ganito.
19:05.4
Sa ganitong araw,
19:06.7
never ako nag-de-date
19:08.0
ng mga sikat na artista,
19:09.5
kahit man si ganito.
19:10.7
Sa weekend ka na rin eh.
19:11.9
Sa disclaimer mo pa lang,
19:15.8
Ang problema sa mga ganyang mga denier,
19:18.1
lalo ka na d-de-in eh.
19:19.9
Pero good for politics.
19:22.6
lalong mileage yan.
19:24.1
Pag nag-denier ka,
19:26.3
lalo kang na d-de-in.
19:29.1
tumatahimik na lang.
19:32.2
tahimik lang tayo,
19:36.6
kasi alam mo naman ako,
19:41.2
Anong alam mo sa mga buhay ng mga artista?
19:43.4
Hindi ba mga malalaking kita na mga yan?
19:45.3
Bakit sila naghanap ng businessman or politiko?
19:47.7
don't they wanna be like,
19:51.0
Di ba million-million naman ang kita?
19:52.6
Or ito ba yung tipong,
19:53.8
malaki din ang kasing gasto?
19:55.0
I'm not talking about the person we discussed,
19:56.5
I mean in general.
19:57.6
Siguro malakas ang gastos nila,
19:59.1
kaya kailangan nila ng,
20:00.4
I'm sorry for saying this,
20:02.7
do you know what I'm saying?
20:03.4
Like if you're earning millions from,
20:08.1
yung talagang daang million ang kita,
20:10.5
ilan lang naman yan,
20:12.0
nabibilang naman yan sa daliri,
20:15.0
yung ganyong level na Ding Dong Marian,
20:19.7
Tapos sila-sila usually yung nag-aasawahan.
20:22.0
Pero after mo nun,
20:23.3
yung mga susunod na mga ano,
20:25.4
na mga level ng mga artist,
20:28.4
they just earn just enough lang din,
20:30.1
na maayos naman yung buhay.
20:31.9
E kung gusto mo yung,
20:33.1
yung the finer things in life,
20:35.0
yung mga luxurious na ano,
20:37.3
yung grupo na yun,
20:41.4
ang maraming disposable na inggam.
20:48.5
high maintenance kasi.
20:51.8
Kailangan mong bumiyahe,
20:53.7
di ka naman mababiyahe ng economy,
20:57.6
kailangan mong medala kang mga bag,
21:05.4
Showing yung kwal mo eh,
21:07.3
napakataas na ng maintenance.
21:10.9
talagang malaki ang gastos.
21:12.5
sabi nga ni Mark,
21:13.7
hindi naman ganung karami yun,
21:14.9
talagang humahataw ng malaki.
21:17.0
1 million dollars,
21:19.2
Maramihan naman yung mga kwal lang eh.
21:24.3
Ubos ka agad yan eh.
21:25.8
may mga funds ka,
21:29.2
may lifestyle ka na imaintain,
21:32.3
At meron pa ako dadagdag,
21:40.3
o kaya doon sa Vivamax na yan,
21:42.0
nagpapataas lang ng presyo.
21:44.8
yun yung galawan ng iba.
21:47.7
yung value nila tumataas.
21:54.0
hindi naman natin sila ginadjudge,
21:56.1
wala naman silang sinasaktan na tao,
21:59.0
Wala naman silang sinasaktan ng ibang tao,
22:01.8
yun lang yung kanilang diskarte sa buhay,
22:05.6
maging komportable yung buhay nila.
22:09.0
I'm exactly saying na,
22:13.7
may mga judgmental na comments,
22:15.8
nag-asawa ng mayaman,
22:17.6
Parang point ko naman,
22:18.9
bakit ganun yung judgment?
22:19.8
Eh, mayaman naman itong mga artista,
22:21.4
hindi naman nila kailangan yung pera.
22:23.6
I'm pushing back against that.
22:25.7
at the same time,
22:26.2
gets ko yung sinasabi nyo,
22:27.2
yung political economy lifestyle ng celebrities,
22:29.9
Na-expected na ang kotse mo ay ganyan,
22:32.2
na-expected yung adamit mong ganyan.
22:34.4
Kahit bili ka na maraming fake,
22:35.8
at the end of the day,
22:36.5
kailangan mo pa rin mag-business class,
22:38.4
kailangan mo pa rin mag-hotel na matino,
22:40.1
kasi kung makita ka sa ganito,
22:41.6
ganyan na kachipangan,
22:43.1
baka mapahiya ka,
22:44.9
it's expensive to put on the show,
22:47.0
that means very difficult,
22:49.5
karamihan ng artista,
22:52.3
malaki ang sahod.
22:53.6
Karamihan ng artista,
22:54.5
hindi ganun kalaki,
22:55.8
yung mga sahod nila.
22:57.2
even in the era of social media,
22:59.2
milyon-milyon ng daily engagement
23:02.7
So, I was expecting,
23:03.5
kumikita sa online mga yan,
23:05.8
like, for example,
23:06.5
Cristiano Ronaldo,
23:07.6
mas malaking kita niya sa Instagram niya,
23:09.9
kaysa dun sa football clubs niya.
23:11.6
So, he earns, like I say,
23:12.8
50 to 100 million on Instagram,
23:15.1
habang 30 million
23:16.2
bawat taon ang bayad sa akin,
23:17.5
let's say, of Juventus.
23:19.2
dyan galing yung sinasabi ko.
23:20.5
Gets ko yung sinasabi niya
23:21.8
na sa mainstream media,
23:22.8
hindi na ganun kalaki yung bayad.
23:25.2
itong artista na,
23:26.1
laki ng following.
23:27.1
So, endorsements and all palang,
23:30.7
Iba si Ivana Alawi.
23:32.3
Iba si Bea Alonzo.
23:34.0
I expect si Ivana Alawi,
23:35.6
laki ng kwantal ganyan.
23:37.0
Ang laki ng viewers niyan.
23:40.8
hindi kasi laki ng Ivana.
23:44.0
Yung sa case ni Ivana,
23:45.4
ito personal ko lang natingin.
23:47.6
baka preference niya talaga,
23:49.6
mga older guy na,
23:54.5
baka preference niya talaga eh.
23:56.1
Hindi sa pumapasok siya sa relasyon
23:58.8
dahil sa mayaman lang
24:01.5
Baka yun talaga yung preference niya.
24:03.5
Emotional security,
24:09.6
it comes with confidence,
24:15.5
o successful businessman o politiko.
24:17.8
So, baka talaga yun talaga tipo niya.
24:19.7
Hindi niya kailangan,
24:20.6
she can survive on her own.
24:24.3
doon siya na-attract eh.
24:26.1
kanya-kanya lang,
24:29.8
before tayo mabash dito,
24:31.3
kasi tatot tayong lalaki,
24:32.4
so it might come off very wrong.
24:33.4
Let me be absolutely clear about it.
24:35.1
We're not trying to be judgmental.
24:36.3
We're trying to just understand
24:37.8
where is the judgment coming from,
24:39.3
what is the political economy
24:40.7
of the business industry.
24:43.4
expert yan sa mga politiko
24:44.6
at saka yabangan ng politiko.
24:46.7
expert kasi entertainment.
24:49.3
I'm proud of what BEA has done.
24:52.4
you have to know your worth,
24:56.2
I don't want to speculate
24:57.0
about what's happening,
24:58.6
if there was really something there,
25:00.2
she would have fought for it.
25:01.5
siguro na-realize na,
25:02.9
there was perhaps not as much
25:04.4
for her to commit herself
25:07.2
that's an expression of independence
25:09.5
I'm proud of what BEA is doing.
25:11.2
I'm also very proud of si ano,
25:13.4
yung last time na pinag-usapan namin
25:16.0
She's doing now very well
25:22.6
Hindi ko sinabi Liza
25:23.5
kasi naglilisa naman ako.
25:25.4
I'm proud of her.
25:26.9
we're seeing this era
25:27.6
of these very confident women
25:31.0
drawing the line.
25:32.3
no prejudice to the other side,
25:33.8
whether gas station,
25:34.9
whether rewarded,
25:36.2
Yun lang sinasabi ko dito,
25:38.5
just to close on this episode,
25:41.5
political analysis pa rin tayo
25:42.8
kasi baka magalit sila
25:44.0
Sir Ogie sa atin.
25:45.5
Magta-turbing na tayo,
25:49.7
where do you see this
25:50.7
intersection of showbiz
25:51.9
and politics going?
25:52.9
Do you think it's gonna get crazier?
25:55.3
celebrity politics?
25:57.5
is there an evolution
25:58.4
in celebrity politics?
26:02.4
style of celebrity politics
26:08.5
umakit sa presidente.
26:10.4
we're in era whereby Trump,
26:11.8
totally walang experience
26:12.8
nag-president ka agad,
26:14.5
Do you see a situation like that
26:16.0
in the Philippines
26:18.1
vice ganda for the president
26:20.1
something like that,
26:21.4
do you think we might go
26:24.1
Ano pa ang magiging dahilan
26:26.7
ng ganitong klaseng
26:27.6
intersection, no?
26:29.4
because of technology,
26:31.5
Because of technology,
26:32.5
pinag-uusapin natin
26:35.5
dahil sa age of disruption,
26:37.8
Itong age of populism
26:39.3
or for a different term,
26:43.2
Meron kang ex-president
26:48.2
na siya ay maraming
26:50.9
Pinagmamalaki na,
26:52.9
pati yung kanyang
26:57.5
ay nagiging positibo
27:00.7
meron kang presidente
27:02.9
nangahalik in public,
27:05.9
value added sa kanya yun,
27:08.4
yung ganitong klaseng
27:09.5
pagiging showbiz,
27:12.0
Pagiging disruptor
27:13.8
nag-i-intersect din
27:19.1
halos hindi mo na alam eh
27:20.2
yung difference eh
27:21.6
dahil yung politika
27:22.4
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.7
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.8
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.8
nagiging showbiz,
27:23.9
nagiging politika.
27:25.7
yun yung intersection
27:27.3
na nakikita natin
27:28.3
at nag-i-scale up yan
27:29.7
because of technology,
27:31.6
Because of technology.
27:32.9
Sa mga television pa,
27:34.0
may kaunti ka pang
27:37.8
meron ka pa mga protocols eh,
27:40.3
nababawasan na gusto
27:41.3
yung mga protocols na yun eh.
27:42.8
You can get away with it eh,
27:45.3
kung tatanggalin ka ng Facebook,
27:47.4
pwede ka magtayo ng bago,
27:51.4
or sa susunod na oras
27:52.8
pwede ka magtayo ng bago.
27:55.4
yung checks and balance,
27:58.5
halimbawa sa broadcast
27:59.7
at saka sa radio dati,
28:01.7
ay medyo na-loosen up
28:03.0
with social media,
28:07.0
because you're also very expert
28:08.2
on this entertainment
28:08.9
politics intersection.
28:11.4
from entertainment
28:12.7
and then now you're mixing it.
28:14.4
I really needed you to be
28:15.3
on this program together with us
28:16.5
but I also wanted Ronald
28:18.0
alternative perspective.
28:22.2
hindi ba nakakatakot?
28:25.5
I'll make disclaimers.
28:29.4
who was playing the role
28:30.8
in a dark comedy,
28:32.3
naging presidente
28:32.9
and in many ways,
28:35.3
in very good ways,
28:36.5
Ang ganda ng labas,
28:37.4
talagang fighter siya,
28:39.0
He really fought back
28:40.2
and was there for his country
28:42.2
all ex-comedians,
28:44.3
becoming suddenly presidents
28:45.4
will turn out like Zelensky.
28:46.5
I don't want to be judgmental.
28:48.4
I don't think you get
28:49.2
the right training
28:53.3
I'm not saying na
28:53.9
porkit naka-entertainment
28:55.1
ka hindi ka pwede.
28:56.9
this is not necessarily
28:58.5
the best preparation
29:00.7
for very difficult job
29:03.6
politics as spectacle,
29:07.1
doon nawawala yung appreciation
29:10.7
public administration
29:11.9
and governance is.
29:14.0
sa panahon natin eh.
29:17.8
nga yung mga advisors eh,
29:19.5
maraming nga yung mga PR guys eh,
29:21.4
maraming nga yung mga ganyan
29:23.2
pwede kang gawin showbiz.
29:26.4
pwedeng kunin yung
29:27.4
positivity ng showbiz
29:30.6
hindi kina-kailangan mo
29:33.0
Hindi mo kina-kailangan
29:34.4
May mga advisor ka
29:36.6
i-handle yung buong
29:38.8
political narrative mo
29:41.4
ng showbiz component.
29:43.7
at yung data analytics
29:45.4
ay magiging bahagi niyan.
29:47.6
Ano pa yung kilitin
29:49.2
Bakit itong mga bloggers na ito
29:50.7
from out of nowhere,
29:53.6
milyon na nakikinig,
29:55.6
So, kukunin nila yan eh.
29:58.0
dyan yung intersection
30:00.9
mahalaga ang data analytics eh.
30:03.8
malaking bahagi ng ating
30:13.7
gagamitin talaga nila
30:17.0
ng data analytics
30:21.0
paano pa nila ipapackage,
30:24.1
itong kanilang kandidato.
30:27.2
Is there a healthy balance?
30:30.1
could there be a roadmap
30:31.1
of how to leverage
30:32.4
the new technology
30:33.4
in order to actually
30:38.8
98% of politicians
30:41.2
for a healthy balance.
30:45.4
Ano natin tulungan yung 2%?
30:48.2
they're looking to win,
30:50.0
yan yung Kwan nila.
30:57.7
may limit yung kanilang spin.
30:59.9
May limit yung kanilang
31:01.7
May limit yung kanilang
31:07.1
baka yung 2% na yan,
31:16.1
yung kanilang message.
31:18.8
Doon nga sa isang
31:19.6
dinaluhan ko last month,
31:23.4
sponsored ng isang
31:25.8
Nagdebate over TikTok eh.
31:27.8
Dahil yung ibang embassy,
31:29.0
ang message nila,
31:30.8
i-trivialize yung ating
31:33.3
sa South China Sea.
31:34.3
Yan yung Kwan nila.
31:35.9
Dahil yung TikTok kasi,
31:37.5
by its very nature,
31:38.9
trivialization eh.
31:42.4
pumasok nga ako sa debate,
31:46.4
dahil most people
31:50.5
their attention first.
31:57.8
yun yung mahalaga.
31:58.7
Paano pumunta ka sa
32:00.9
three-minute na documentary?
32:02.5
Kailangan mo muna
32:03.2
ng TikTok na 30 seconds
32:06.3
Para dali mo sila
32:07.8
mas magandang platform.
32:10.1
kung andun lang ako,
32:10.9
binash ko yung mga iba dyan,
32:12.4
they have no experience
32:16.6
We have so many people,
32:17.8
millions of followers,
32:19.4
they don't do trivial,
32:21.8
very decent stuff
32:22.7
on TikTok and all.
32:25.4
I'm suspicious with TikTok
32:26.5
on West Philippine Sea
32:28.1
ako na-censor doon.
32:30.3
political education,
32:33.0
May book talk series.
32:34.5
They do very well,
32:36.9
TikTok is by nature.
32:38.0
Good example yung
32:39.0
kay Mighty Magulang
32:40.0
yung mga iba pang ano.
32:43.1
Kahit si Prof. Shao,
32:45.1
yung mga TikToks niya
32:48.3
magandang platform talaga
32:52.1
interested bit by bit,
32:55.5
Hindi mo siya pwedeng
32:56.4
i-present na isang
33:02.1
Gusto ko lang din
33:05.0
ang nagsisimulang
33:08.8
parang nakikita ko din
33:10.6
Black Time sa GMA.
33:13.1
Parang may talk show
33:16.8
kasama si Boy Abunda.
33:19.9
kaso hindi bumibenta,
33:24.1
meron isang congressman
33:25.2
na magkakaroon din
33:28.2
yung billboards na,
33:28.9
ang dami sa Metro Manila.
33:34.2
yung isang senador
33:36.1
na may comedy show,
33:38.1
panay-billboard na
33:39.0
yung comedy show niya
33:45.9
Yan yata yung isang
33:50.0
puro TikTok yun, eh.
33:51.1
Puro TikTok yung gamit
33:53.0
It's the first TikTok elections.
33:55.4
First TikTok elections,
33:56.3
that's how I called it.
33:58.7
very notorious person,
34:02.9
special commanders,
34:04.1
general overseeing
34:05.4
Human rights violation.
34:07.1
Daming nag-disappear
34:11.0
parang tatay version siya.
34:13.0
May pusa pa kasama.
34:16.7
baka may machisis ka.
34:17.8
May taga-Indonesia
34:27.0
very similar yung signature.
34:29.1
huwag na tayo mag-debate,
34:31.9
And both of them,
34:36.6
authoritative surveys.
34:38.3
suspicious nga eh.
34:41.0
Suspicious nga eh.
34:49.2
sabihin yung pangalan.
34:51.1
Ang dami natin blind item
34:53.2
na napa-blind item
34:58.3
ikaw yung talagang
35:02.6
these both politics
35:03.5
and entertainment.
35:04.2
Anong basa mo so far
35:05.1
in terms of the evolution
35:09.0
I would like to believe
35:12.9
yung mga voters natin
35:14.4
parang pareho pa rin eh.
35:16.2
It's the same strategy
35:21.4
may isang artista
35:23.4
pag malapit na eleksyon
35:24.4
bigla siyang mamamatay.
35:26.4
Bibigyan siya ng heroic
35:31.8
yun lang yung ginawa.
35:37.5
lalagpas sa ganun eh.
35:40.3
yung mga qualifications,
35:43.6
hindi yung ano lang eh.
35:47.5
hindi walang connection
35:48.2
sa trabaho nila eh.
35:49.5
hindi walang connection
35:51.3
doon sa kanilang gagawin
35:52.4
doon sa Senado eh.
35:55.0
In fairness nga dito
35:55.7
kay Sen. Robbins,
35:56.6
ang dami pang sinasabi
35:58.6
yung mga ganun pa eh.
36:00.1
medyo related pa doon
36:01.8
iba wala na lang talaga eh.
36:06.3
hindi ko alam actually
36:08.4
kung paano lalagpas
36:10.0
doon sa ganun level.
36:11.5
I think we already knew
36:12.8
we are going this direction
36:14.5
no offense to him,
36:15.9
top the Senate race.
36:17.1
ang dami nag-react
36:18.2
nung nag-number one
36:19.0
si Robin Padilla,
36:20.1
Robin Hood Padilla,
36:20.9
yung besye ni Ronald.
36:23.0
last time I checked,
36:24.2
more than a decade ago,
36:25.6
si Bong Revilla pa
36:26.9
yung nag-top ng Senate.
36:28.1
this is not something new.
36:30.0
that has been gaining strength
36:31.3
over the past decade or so.
36:34.0
political show tayo.
36:35.5
I think this is a reflection
36:36.5
of the non-existence
36:38.0
of political parties.
36:39.3
When there are no real
36:40.0
political parties
36:40.8
for people to rally around,
36:44.1
slightly na magpo-pushback
36:45.6
ako sa'yo, Mark, no?
36:47.8
where you're coming from.
36:49.0
Pero ang point ko is,
36:49.9
pag tinignan mo sa perspektibo
36:52.4
eh wala naman totoong party, eh.
36:53.7
Wala naman totoong agenda,
36:56.0
Pasikatan na talaga yun, eh.
36:57.2
It's really gonna go down to
36:58.5
emotional connection
36:59.9
and relatability.
37:02.0
we are paying the price
37:03.9
real political parties.
37:05.8
to fix what Marcos destroyed,
37:08.1
when Marcos created
37:08.8
essentially one-party system.
37:10.6
Pero hindi inayos yun
37:13.6
this ridiculous situation
37:15.1
we have in the Philippines,
37:16.0
no offense again,
37:17.1
but this kind of a fiesta,
37:19.9
of intersection of,
37:22.4
showbiz and politics
37:24.1
at the expense of
37:25.4
real political analysis
37:29.1
and evidence-based
37:30.8
We're paying the price
37:31.5
for what was not done
37:32.4
two, three decades ago,
37:34.6
ito yung reading ko, ah.
37:35.9
This is just the opposite of that.
37:37.4
Aside from technology.
37:38.6
I think technology just
37:39.5
reinforced this very bad trend.
37:44.6
meron din mga good spot,
37:49.1
meron kang mga local mayors
37:52.2
sa national politics
37:53.3
dahil may nagawa sila
37:54.5
sa kanilang syudad.
37:58.5
pinakits nila yung sarili nila.
38:00.7
sinimulan niya ni Binay
38:05.3
hindi siya purely spin, eh.
38:08.0
Hindi siya purely spin.
38:09.2
Kailangan meron ka rin
38:12.6
for the first time,
38:15.9
local officials natin,
38:17.1
nagiging national na ngayon.
38:19.8
Naging entablado yung kanilang,
38:21.9
yung kanilang locality, no?
38:26.2
whether kahit ayaw natin sa kanya,
38:29.7
yun yung kanila naging entablado, eh.
38:32.3
it's a mixture nung dalawa.
38:33.8
Kailangan mo rin magpakita ng performance.
38:36.0
Kailangan mo rin magpakita
38:37.2
na meron kang nagawa.
38:38.7
Na meron ka rin K.
38:40.9
i-build yung narrative mo,
38:48.0
baka yun yung tinatanong mo kanina,
38:50.5
Yung balancing na ganyan, no?
38:52.5
si Lisa Ontiveros, no?
38:55.5
Meron siya advocacy,
38:58.0
et cetera, et cetera.
38:59.1
Pero kinamit din niya
39:00.0
yung kanyang kagandahan
39:02.6
Dahil asset na yun, eh.
39:06.2
Charisma, charisma.
39:07.8
she's a journalist also.
39:09.4
pwede mong gamitin yung inyong
39:10.6
kagandahang lalaki.
39:11.6
Hindi ko kasi pwedeng gamitin, eh.
39:16.0
Kaya yung buff body.
39:18.1
huwag mong kalimutan sa Ronald.
39:25.0
Pero kailangan may pakita ka rin,
39:33.2
I think, I like we ended on a good note
39:34.9
because in a way,
39:36.0
ang sinabi mo rin dito is
39:37.1
technology is a double-edged sword.
39:39.7
medyo nakakabala,
39:41.1
pwede mo siya gamitin in a good way.
39:43.0
we got to know more about
39:47.1
mayors from all across the country.
39:48.6
Hindi lang dahil sa mainstream media.
39:50.5
most of us don't watch,
39:51.5
but it's because sa social media natin
39:53.6
So, I completely agree.
39:54.7
Kaya nga sabi ko,
39:55.7
paano natin magamit itong technology
39:58.5
while hindi pa natin naayos
40:00.2
itong political party mess
40:03.5
we're also paying the price
40:04.6
for what was lacking.
40:07.4
itong episode natin napahaba.
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naging invent tayo bagong genre.
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May bagong genre na tayo.
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Pagpasok ko nga kanina,
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hindi pa kula eh.
40:21.7
Hindi pa nagsisimula.
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Hindi pa nagstart.
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intermission lang tayo.
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intermission lang sana yan
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habang wala ka pa.
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Yung intermission,
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naging mahabang episode bigla.
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Andaming alam itong mga kasama ko.
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let's go to another important topic
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in the next episode,
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Riza Ontiveros has been calling for
40:41.0
Pag-usapan na natin itong
40:43.8
Before we talk about the big picture,
40:47.7
I think those are very important issues.
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we also recently got to know na,
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na matay na si Alexi Navalny
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who's considered as one of the
40:56.7
most celebrated opposition leaders.
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let's also talk about,
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let's talk about what is a true opposition leader.
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Kasi grabe yung nadanan ni
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dito muna tayo sa Pilipinas.
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Kiboloy muna ang pag-usapan natin.
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Thank you very much to my
41:16.3
Dapat may bagong pangalan na tayo.
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Talaga si Sir Ronald.
41:20.7
Yung mga blind items,
41:21.6
may text mo sa akin mamaya.
41:23.8
yung mga gaspang.
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recharge per minute.
41:28.3
Thank you very much guys.
41:29.3
That was fantastic.
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Sana hindi tayo mapahamak.
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Kasi Ronald lang paamak.
