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RRM: IVANA, BEA, & CELBRITY POLITICS IN PHILIPPINES
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00:00.3
Okay guys, ito na, ito na. Ayaw ko mag-showbiz pero napipilitan tayo ng konti mag-showbiz habang yung isang kasama natin na political strategies ay wala pa.
00:10.7
Speak to Showbiz Entertainment. Kamusta dyan my other favorite co-host? Kamusta ka dyan? Mark Amboa, sir.
00:19.0
Okay naman. Doing good.
00:21.6
More than good yata pero mamaya natin mag-usapan yan.
00:25.0
Now, speaking of Models of Manila, anong gas station natin dyan?
00:35.0
May kwento ako. Subulan natin sa isang kwento.
00:38.1
Sige, sige. Kwento muna tayo bago tayo mag-gas station.
00:40.5
Muna tayo. Wala naman tayong pinopromote dito na gas station. Kasama lang talaga.
00:45.9
So, dito sa UC. So, sakto, naubusan na ako ng gasolina.
00:52.7
Tapos, nagkahanap ako ng gasolinahan.
00:54.6
Tapos, napadaan ako dito sa may biyak na bato na street. Malapit sa Banawe.
00:59.6
Tapos, malapit sa amin to eh. Tapos, parang nakita ko.
01:03.3
Ay, ito. May clean fuel. Mura daw dito. Okay daw dito.
01:07.8
Lahat ng mga sinasakyan kong taxi, clean fuel sila eh.
01:11.3
Kasi maganda yung point system daw.
01:13.9
So, subuan po nga.
01:15.5
Pag-lapit ko, biglang, uy, teka. Parang bago ng endorser nila.
01:21.2
So, bumaba ako ng sasakyan.
01:25.4
Nag-picture ako. Pakita ko ito.
01:27.9
Ayan ang aking picture. Teka natin.
01:29.6
Basahin natin. Basahin natin. Nakalagay. Ano yun?
01:32.2
Ano yun? Joya ng pump?
01:34.0
Kita ba?
01:36.5
Ano yun? Be rewarded in every pump.
01:42.2
Oh, I'm so sorry. Oh my God.
01:44.9
This is so bad. This is so bad.
01:47.1
Be rewarded at every pump. I'm sorry, man. I'm just saying.
01:51.3
O, yan ang bago.
01:52.5
Hindi naman sa nag-isip ako ng iba.
01:54.6
Sinasabi ko, now open.
01:56.6
Ayan, talagang.
01:57.6
Tapos merong maganda, di ba? Merong kang reward with every pump.
02:00.6
Tapos now open.
02:02.6
Oh my God. I'm so sorry. This is not good.
02:05.6
Sino kayo?
02:08.6
Alam mo, ngayon pare, hindi naman masabi yung ano eh.
02:11.6
Reward system nila, maganda.
02:13.6
At every pump.
02:14.6
Kaya, gustong-gustong siya ng mga taxi driver. Kasi,
02:17.6
pagkada gas mo, makiipon ka ng points, tapos ipapalit ng electric pan, rice cooker.
02:22.6
Yun yung rewarded in every pump.
02:23.6
Kada pump ng gasolina. Kaya, malakas yung clean fuel.
02:29.6
Tapos, endorser mo pa. O, di ba? Trending ngayon.
02:33.6
O, kaya, nagpa-picture talaga ako. Kasi, natuwa ako dito sa ano.
02:37.6
Natuwa ako dito sa bagong gasolina. Sabi ko, dito na ako magpapagasolina. Sa amin.
02:43.6
Ilan ba itong, ilan bang mga gas station na joy at every pump na eh?
02:48.6
Reward at every pump. Marami ba?
02:50.6
Reward at ang joy.
02:52.6
Walang joy at every pump. Mayor yun ang QC. Ito dito, rewarded with every pump.
02:58.6
Nakom, baka pa ano tayo, may MTRCB ba sa mga ano ba? May MTRCB ba?
03:05.6
Ang pinag-uusapan natin, yun naman sa up nung Green Fuel. Yun naman yun. Diba?
03:13.6
Of course, yung kanilang endorser, very trendy si Dominic Roque. Diba? Kaya…
03:18.6
Wala. Bro, blind item tayo. Bakit mo? Nadraw?
03:20.6
Blind item tayo? Bakit mo? Nadrop yung name? Ano ka ba nasira mo? Nagpa-blind item na nga ako.
03:27.6
Ang sinasabi ko lang, bro, ang pinaka-ano, pinaka-ebedensya naka-arrive ka na sa buhay is kung may gas station ka na. Kasi…
03:38.6
Hindi ko nga sure. Hindi ko nga sure. Kung, kasi cis-mis lang naman eh. Hindi ko talaga alam kung talaga bang meron na siyang sarili niya.
03:46.6
Or, or parang in-invento na lang yun ng mga marites.
03:50.6
Baka naman in-invento. Baka naman endorser lang siya eh.
03:53.6
Wait lang. Wait lang. Siguraduin natin itong pumasok kay si Ronald Llamas. Baka may ibang naikinig sa atin.
04:02.6
Kasi now open eh. Bago eh. Hindi kaya ito yung franchise.
04:05.6
Ayan na. Ayan na si bossing. Wait lang.
04:07.6
O yan. Pasok natin. Para baka may, may ano siya.
04:10.6
Bilang ex… Kamusta sir Ronald? Eto na.
04:15.6
Hello sir.
04:16.6
Anong kailangan kong cis-mis sa inyo?
04:18.6
Ayan.
04:19.6
Anong kailangan ko ni Richard ng ano, ng franchise ng gasoline station?
04:23.6
Sama ka. Tatlo tayo.
04:25.6
Ayoko man ba. San ba ako pwede kumuha na walang payo?
04:31.6
Sir Ronald, kamusta naman dyan? Wilang political affairs secretary.
04:35.6
Updated ka ba sa mga gas station ano, memes?
04:39.6
Saan?
04:41.6
Mark, you wanna go ahead, explain what's, ano itong gas station story na ito?
04:47.6
Kasi sir Ronald…
04:49.6
Para sa mga, baka naman yun yung sa audience natin hindi naka, hindi nalalaman yung story.
04:54.6
Kasi meron lang, eto blind item. Biglang blind item. Merong, merong…
04:59.6
Hey! Kung gusto mag-blind item, ulitin ko tong recording.
05:03.6
Hindi na. Okay lang. Okay lang. Okay lang. Hindi na. Hindi na. Hindi na.
05:05.6
So merong mga chis-mis na lumalabas. Chis-mis lang naman to. Kasi diba, naghiwalayan bigla si Bea tsaka si Dominic Roque. Engaged na eh.
05:15.6
Tapos ang daming lumalabas ng mga issue, ang daming lumalabas ng mga chismis.
05:21.6
Merong isang chismis na lumabas na meron daw siyang sariling franchise ng gasolin station.
05:28.6
So, chismis lang naman yun. It's either that or kasi endorser kasi siya.
05:35.6
So, pinakita ko kay Richard, dun sa may amin, siya yung endorser. Ito yung tagline, ano yung tagline ulit Richard?
05:42.6
Baka hindi nabutan ni Sir Ronald eh.
05:44.6
Sir Ronald?
05:45.6
Be rewarded in every pump.
05:47.9
Ayan.
05:49.3
Yun yung tagline nila.
05:50.6
Be rewarded in every pump.
05:53.1
Ayan.
05:54.2
Yun yung gasolina,
05:57.5
kinapump.
05:58.1
Sir, sir, sir, Mark,
05:59.5
pero wala naman problema
06:01.3
kung may gas station ka.
06:02.5
Bakit naging controversial
06:03.7
itong issue ng gas station?
06:06.2
Ayan.
06:06.8
Kasi parang may mga business na
06:08.6
na
06:10.0
kasi pati yung kondo
06:12.2
na tinitiran daw,
06:13.9
may mga ganun eh.
06:15.6
Na ang daming politikong na damay.
06:17.5
Ang daming mga politiko.
06:18.7
Sino daw mayare?
06:20.5
Nung kondo.
06:22.4
O nung gas station.
06:24.1
Sino nagbigay?
06:25.0
Ay, saan galing?
06:26.4
Daw.
06:26.7
Yung gas station.
06:27.8
Oo, saan galing?
06:29.4
Ayan, yung gas station
06:30.6
doon sa isang politiko
06:33.4
na involved doon sa gas station.
06:37.0
Ay, sir Ronald!
06:39.1
Pasok!
06:40.2
Politiko naman.
06:41.2
Kasi ang next na topic natin,
06:42.8
Iwana.
06:43.5
Diba?
06:43.8
Mayroon din sinabi sa Iwana na
06:45.5
ano niya,
06:46.9
dinidate niya,
06:47.6
hindi yung mayor.
06:48.3
Anong mayor ba?
06:48.9
Bacolod ba?
06:49.4
Bustesman, hindi mayor.
06:52.3
Bago tayo pumunta kay Iwana,
06:54.1
tapusin muna ito.
06:54.9
Iwana, oh.
06:55.5
Gas station.
06:56.1
Iwana, Iwana ka naman.
06:58.2
Ayan na naman.
06:59.3
German, ah.
07:00.9
Ito daw, Mark.
07:02.0
Anong masaya mo
07:02.8
tapos kunin natin yung analysis
07:04.2
si Sir Ronald?
07:05.3
Sir Ronald,
07:06.2
marami ka bang kilalang politiko
07:07.6
na nang mimigay ng gas station
07:09.3
sa kanilang mga...
07:10.2
Tsaka ng kondo.
07:11.0
Nagpapatira sa kondo.
07:12.2
Kondo, parang ano na yun.
07:13.8
Normal na, no?
07:14.7
Kondo, parang gas station, bro.
07:17.7
Naka-arrive ka na sa buhay.
07:20.2
Arrive na, arrive na.
07:21.5
Ganon yung slogan, eh.
07:23.4
Yung pump.
07:24.8
Rewired it.
07:25.8
Rewired it natin.
07:30.0
Dapat may MTRCB yan, eh.
07:31.8
Doble ang trante yan, ah.
07:33.5
May mga alam ako,
07:35.3
pero hindi ko pwede sabihin, eh.
07:37.8
Pero anong blind item mo?
07:39.6
Sige, blind item.
07:41.7
Parehas yung dalawa.
07:42.9
Parehas yung dalawa.
07:44.3
Ayan.
07:44.7
Ayan tayo, eh.
07:45.3
Hindi lang, hindi lang,
07:46.1
hindi lang one-side yun, ah.
07:48.0
Hindi lang one-side yun.
07:49.8
Hindi lang...
07:50.4
Aba!
07:51.4
Hindi ko nasasabihin.
07:52.4
Deligado, Sir Ronald, ah.
07:54.3
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
07:55.2
Wait, wait, wait.
07:55.7
Wag tayo dyan.
07:56.8
Wag tayo dyan.
07:57.5
Rewind, rewind.
07:58.8
Rewind tayo.
07:59.9
Dun na muna tayo
08:00.7
sa kabilang gas station.
08:02.1
Wag na.
08:02.6
Sa kabilang gas station.
08:04.7
Mairap na, mairap na.
08:06.0
Mairap.
08:06.7
Parang pinamak pa tayo
08:08.2
lalo ni Sir Ronald, ah.
08:10.0
Grabe ka pa.
08:10.9
Pero Sir Ronald talaga,
08:12.1
ano ba,
08:12.3
uso pa yung mga namimigay
08:14.7
Kondo, ano na yun, eh.
08:16.8
Laos na yung kondo.
08:18.0
Oo, kondo, kotse, no.
08:20.4
Mga luma na yun, eh.
08:21.7
Yung gas station,
08:22.6
hindi ko alam, eh.
08:23.6
Hindi, ito, ito,
08:24.3
may gusto na din ako talagang
08:25.1
sa inyong dalawa.
08:26.1
Kasi yung issue na to,
08:27.2
dito naman naka-ankla, eh.
08:29.0
Yung dahil daw sa pre-nap,
08:30.8
parang naging issue daw
08:31.7
yung pag-sign ng pre-nap.
08:33.0
Kayo ba,
08:34.5
ano sa tingin nyo
08:35.2
sa panahon ngayon?
08:36.4
Kung kunyari,
08:37.0
mag-aasawa,
08:38.3
dapat ba normal na lang
08:39.8
yung pre-nap
08:40.4
o tutol kayo dun?
08:42.1
Kasi yung parang
08:43.0
naging issue dyan, eh.
08:44.3
Parang ayaw yata
08:45.0
kumirman ng pre-nap
08:45.9
yung isang side daw,
08:47.1
yun yung chismis.
08:48.4
Yung mas mayaman na side
08:50.0
or yung hindi mas mayaman?
08:51.5
Siyempre yung
08:52.3
mas hindi mayaman.
08:54.0
Wala ako to sa pre-nap, eh.
08:55.2
Dahil sila naman,
08:56.6
di naman sila ganun
08:57.3
kayaman pareho, eh.
08:59.0
Usually,
08:59.8
nangyayari yan.
09:00.8
Hindi po, hindi.
09:02.2
Kung isa ay sobrang yaman, no?
09:04.3
Kung isa ay sobrang yaman.
09:05.8
Sila ay hindi ganun kalayo, eh.
09:08.0
I would beg to disagree,
09:10.2
sir Ronald.
09:11.8
According sa mga
09:12.6
chismis lang to
09:13.3
sa mga reports,
09:14.1
pero narinig naman talaga
09:15.1
si Bea is ano,
09:16.7
ah,
09:17.2
bilyonaryo.
09:18.2
Bilyonaryo.
09:18.7
Pero pesos lang.
09:20.4
Pero bro,
09:20.9
ang sinasabi ni Ronald,
09:23.1
kunyari nagkasawa ka ng
09:24.0
billionaire in dollars.
09:26.4
Tapos ikaw,
09:27.0
millionaire ka lang in dollars.
09:28.3
Di ba parang ganun, sir Ronald,
09:29.4
sinasabi?
09:29.7
Kunyari artista ka,
09:30.9
multimillionaire ka,
09:32.2
isang billion pesos.
09:33.1
Pero yung nasa
09:33.6
billion dollar.
09:35.6
That's one side.
09:36.5
Pero yung
09:37.4
sinasabi ni Mark
09:39.1
na bilyonaryo si Bea,
09:40.9
I doubt that, eh.
09:42.2
Dahil,
09:42.6
alam ko may mga
09:44.4
money problems din siya.
09:46.5
Ah, okay.
09:47.4
Nagbebenta nga siya ng mga,
09:48.7
alam ko,
09:49.1
nababalitaan ko lang,
09:50.1
nagbebenta ng assets.
09:52.2
Yan.
09:52.8
Oo.
09:53.3
Sir Ronald,
09:53.9
ikaw naman Richard,
09:55.9
kung yung partner mo kanyari,
09:57.2
humingi ng prenup,
09:58.6
papayag ka ba?
10:00.4
Eh, si Richard,
10:01.8
bilyonaryo na.
10:03.7
Wait na,
10:04.4
bilyonaryo sana,
10:04.8
kung yung partner mo kanyari,
10:07.2
ang may gusto,
10:08.5
o kaya ayaw niyang
10:09.4
mag-sign ng prenup,
10:10.5
anong stand mo doon?
10:12.6
In love,
10:15.1
all is fair.
10:16.0
Dapat,
10:16.3
ano?
10:18.0
At if you're pumped,
10:19.4
there is,
10:19.8
ano, reward.
10:20.2
Baka si Richard
10:21.4
ang humingi ng prenup.
10:23.4
Oo.
10:24.3
Dapat,
10:25.0
actually,
10:25.6
yung prenup,
10:26.4
dapat meron ka rin
10:27.1
future returns
10:28.5
calculation,
10:29.4
di ba?
10:29.5
Kunyari,
10:29.9
hindi ka kanyang kayaman ngayon,
10:31.1
pero alam mo,
10:31.7
eto,
10:32.2
ay next year.
10:32.7
Ayun na, eh.
10:33.2
Paano biglang nanalo ka sa loto?
10:34.4
Or next president.
10:35.3
O, yung mga ganyan,
10:36.1
di ba?
10:36.5
Paano kung naging
10:37.0
loan better ka?
10:38.8
Loan better sa PCSO.
10:41.7
Di ba?
10:42.6
O, de,
10:43.4
katina ka agad yun.
10:44.6
Hindi mo masabi.
10:46.0
Baka sa panahon ngayon,
10:47.2
maraming loan better.
10:48.6
Oo.
10:49.0
Di ba?
10:49.7
Sir Ronald,
10:50.7
sir Ronald,
10:51.1
sa'yo mo na ako
10:51.7
yung ma-informate.
10:52.7
Mark, Mark,
10:53.4
hindi ka ba naki-curious?
10:54.7
Alam ni Ronald
10:55.3
ang mga assets
10:56.6
na liability.
10:57.7
Hindi ko nga alam.
10:58.6
Ikaw nga,
10:59.0
parang di mo rin alam, eh.
11:00.7
Ano, sir Ronald,
11:01.3
sa'yo mo na ba pulot
11:02.2
yung mga ganyan information?
11:03.9
Alam mo naman,
11:04.8
yung mga political circles,
11:06.2
lahat yan may
11:06.8
kaugnayan
11:08.0
sa mga artista.
11:10.2
At one point or another,
11:12.6
di ba?
11:13.5
Kaya naman yun,
11:14.2
yung mga
11:14.6
tropic,
11:15.9
kaya yun, eh.
11:16.6
Mga tropi friends,
11:18.1
tropi girlfriends,
11:19.4
tropi boyfriends.
11:21.8
So,
11:23.1
sa mga,
11:24.1
kung nakakausap mo
11:25.0
yung mga politiko,
11:25.8
may mga nababalitaan ka
11:27.0
na mga,
11:28.3
na mga
11:29.9
bagay-bagay.
11:32.3
Yung dati nga,
11:33.4
nung cabinet secretary ako,
11:35.4
na nag-report ako
11:36.1
ng Sal N ko,
11:37.4
ba?
11:37.9
May isang senador?
11:39.2
Parehas lang kami
11:39.8
ng Sal N?
11:41.0
Sabi ko to sa senador na yun.
11:42.6
Isang kotse mo lang yan, eh.
11:44.3
Bakit pareho?
11:45.7
Bakit pareho tayo
11:46.7
ng Sal N?
11:47.8
So,
11:48.8
baka naging
11:49.3
gas station lahat
11:50.5
ng ano niya.
11:51.5
Kaya,
11:51.7
literally,
11:53.5
shell company
11:54.6
yung gas station.
11:55.2
Kilala nyo yung senador na yun.
11:58.6
Incumbent, no?
11:60.0
Matagal nilang senador.
12:01.3
Sabi ko,
12:01.7
ano tayo nagkapareho
12:03.8
na nakuha
12:04.2
ng Sal N?
12:05.5
Sabi ko sa akin,
12:06.0
pero,
12:09.2
natawa lang siya, eh.
12:11.3
Bago tayo
12:11.8
pupunta sa kibol,
12:12.6
next topic natin,
12:13.7
kiboloy.
12:14.4
Dito muna tayo, ha?
12:16.7
Bago tayo mag-iwana rin.
12:18.8
Sir Ronald,
12:19.6
Iwana?
12:20.5
Ba't ba Richard,
12:21.1
iwana ka ng iwanan?
12:22.3
Iyan na naman tayo, eh.
12:24.7
Mga tito boy,
12:25.9
soto ako.
12:27.2
Pero,
12:27.5
eto, eto, eto.
12:28.4
Kaya,
12:29.8
etong issue na ngayon,
12:31.0
blind item pa rin dapat, eh.
12:32.6
Pero, nilalaglag
12:33.5
niya yung blind item natin.
12:35.1
Sir Ronald,
12:35.8
ano yung peacocking din ba yan?
12:37.1
Yung parang yabangan
12:37.9
ng mga politiko na,
12:39.3
oh, ako,
12:39.9
etong artist
12:40.4
na kong ano ko,
12:41.4
ikaw,
12:41.8
ganun, diba?
12:42.6
Parang ganun natin, no?
12:43.9
Yabangan yan.
12:44.7
Parang mga kwan,
12:45.6
parang mga wedding lord
12:46.6
at saka drug lord
12:47.5
pag nagiinuman,
12:48.5
pag nagpaparty.
12:50.1
Pinagmamalaki nila
12:50.7
sinong hawak nilang politiko,
12:52.7
sinong kanilang girlfriend
12:53.9
na artista
12:55.0
o beauty queen, no?
12:57.0
Parang ganun din
12:57.7
yung mga politiko, eh.
12:59.2
Hindi nalalayo
13:00.6
sa mga sindikato.
13:02.1
Hindi nalalayo
13:02.8
sa mga
13:03.5
sa mga drug lord
13:05.0
at saka wedding lord.
13:06.1
Sabagay,
13:06.5
marami rin naman
13:07.1
mga politiko
13:08.3
ang drug lord
13:08.9
at saka wedding lord, no?
13:10.9
Medyo hindi siya
13:11.6
intersection, no?
13:12.6
Siya, naging
13:13.1
intersection, no?
13:14.6
Pero may separate chart
13:16.3
sabagay din
13:17.4
kung
13:17.8
milyon naman
13:19.1
ang ginagastos mo,
13:20.6
syempre,
13:21.0
iyayabang mo din.
13:22.2
Kung milyon-milyon
13:22.9
ginagastos mo, eh,
13:24.1
sasarilingin mo lang.
13:25.8
Diba?
13:26.1
Kung, kung,
13:27.2
diba,
13:27.5
makakano isang gas station
13:28.6
ngayon?
13:29.1
Syempre,
13:30.0
medyo ife-flex mo
13:30.9
sa ibang friends mo
13:31.8
na, oh,
13:32.9
tingnan mo ito,
13:33.9
paris ka, ganyan-ganyan.
13:34.8
Pero Mark,
13:35.3
ang gusto ko hindi gas station,
13:36.5
gusto ko EV, eh,
13:37.7
para environmentally friendly.
13:40.5
Battery.
13:41.4
Tesla battery.
13:42.4
Energy charge
13:42.9
ang level naman
13:44.2
gusto natin.
13:45.3
Pero, pero, Mark,
13:46.2
balikan natin.
13:46.8
Yung iba nga,
13:47.4
yung iba nga dyan,
13:48.2
transactional pa, eh.
13:49.8
No?
13:50.2
Ang, ah,
13:51.1
kumbaga,
13:52.6
magkakaroon ng relasyon
13:53.8
in exchange for, ah,
13:56.0
for a fee.
13:56.8
Diba?
13:57.1
Para, ah,
13:58.0
kung ano siya, ma,
13:58.9
machismis siya,
14:00.3
ma,
14:00.8
mailagay siya sa mga,
14:02.0
mga tabloid,
14:03.7
diba?
14:04.0
Mga ganun.
14:04.8
Yung, ah,
14:06.1
bad publicity
14:06.9
is still publicity, eh.
14:08.6
Diba?
14:09.0
Sa ating mundo,
14:09.9
kung ano yan, eh.
14:11.0
Positis mo yan, eh.
14:11.9
Hindi yan negatis.
14:12.4
Hindi yan negatibo, eh.
14:13.4
No?
14:14.2
Alimbawa, si,
14:15.4
Kwan,
14:16.1
si Richard,
14:17.3
machismis yan
14:18.1
sa isang beauty queen, no?
14:19.9
Hindi negative yun.
14:21.1
Positive yun.
14:22.0
Dahil,
14:22.5
lalo na sa mga politiko.
14:26.0
May mga,
14:26.6
may alam nga ako,
14:27.2
may alam nga ako,
14:29.0
may alam nga ako,
14:29.8
mga politiko,
14:30.6
LGBTQI, eh.
14:31.9
Pero nagpapanggap
14:32.7
na heterosexual, eh.
14:34.0
Diba?
14:35.8
Kasama pa dun yung mga front,
14:37.9
daw, yung mga front.
14:39.1
Yun, no?
14:39.9
Mga front, no?
14:40.6
Alam mo, oh.
14:41.8
Alam mo.
14:42.4
Lato to ang sasaban na to.
14:43.3
Ladies,
14:43.9
ladies men, eh.
14:45.1
Ladies men.
14:46.1
Pero pagdating pala sa hotel,
14:47.4
iba pala yun na sa loob.
14:48.9
Man,
14:49.3
man,
14:49.9
man,
14:50.9
lady.
14:52.4
Ha?
14:53.2
Baka,
14:53.6
baka mapamantay yan, ha?
14:55.7
Hindi ko nasasabihin
14:56.5
kung sino yun, no?
14:57.6
Pero pagdating pala yung kita mo,
14:59.4
mga model, eh.
15:00.1
Ang kasama, eh, no?
15:01.1
Pupad na sa hotel,
15:02.1
may mga model, no?
15:03.4
Pero pagpasok sa kwarto,
15:05.3
no?
15:05.9
Yung model,
15:07.1
maglililis sila
15:07.8
ng kuko yun.
15:09.7
Ayan.
15:10.5
Sir Ronald,
15:11.4
ano, parang,
15:12.4
kailangan natin
15:13.2
ng masinsinan na
15:14.4
episode dito, ha?
15:16.1
Dami natin
15:16.9
blind items.
15:18.0
Shout out dyan
15:18.7
kay OG Diaz
15:19.8
may kalaban ka na ngayon.
15:21.2
Ang RRM.
15:22.6
Ang marites ng bayan.
15:23.9
Oo,
15:24.2
tatlo din sila,
15:25.5
di ba?
15:26.0
Pwede pala tayong ganun.
15:27.3
Tatlo din tayo.
15:27.7
Pang tapat natin
15:28.5
kila OG Diaz.
15:29.6
Sino naman ni Sir OG?
15:31.2
Kaya yung,
15:31.8
kaya yung binabanggit ni Mark,
15:33.5
yung mga chismis na yan.
15:34.9
If there's,
15:35.6
if there's a
15:37.6
smoke,
15:38.4
there's a fire.
15:40.5
There's a reward.
15:41.2
Ganun pa.
15:42.4
If there's smoke,
15:43.3
there's pump.
15:46.3
When you pump the gas.
15:48.2
Eto, eto.
15:48.9
Ayan, okay, okay.
15:50.1
Basta ako,
15:50.7
gusto ko,
15:51.2
EV,
15:51.8
environmental friendly.
15:54.0
Parang nalito ko,
15:54.8
ano ba ito?
15:55.2
Napasukan ko na ito.
15:58.0
Marites group chat.
16:01.0
Talaga,
16:01.6
dapat yung RRM natin
16:02.8
talaga may marites episode.
16:04.4
Otherwise,
16:05.3
hindi na ito unique.
16:06.5
Talaga dapat unique tayo.
16:08.0
Ano naman yung kwentos
16:09.3
kay,
16:09.7
sa Hong Kong,
16:10.3
si Ivan,
16:11.1
ano ulit,
16:12.0
Ivana,
16:12.4
Iwan,
16:12.9
ano?
16:13.6
Ivana.
16:14.5
Ivana, okay, okay.
16:15.7
Ano naman?
16:16.9
Hindi sa Hong Kong,
16:18.3
sa Japan.
16:19.3
Sa Japan,
16:20.1
hindi sa Hong Kong.
16:21.3
Hindi ka na lugar,
16:22.2
Japan.
16:23.7
Bakolod.
16:24.8
Oo,
16:25.3
nakita.
16:25.8
Bakolod,
16:26.3
baka mamay,
16:27.0
madamay ko yun.
16:27.9
Tika-tika bakolod yung na chismis,
16:30.0
pero nakita daw sila
16:31.5
sa Japan.
16:32.9
No?
16:33.5
Nakita daw sila magkasama.
16:35.4
Ang sabi naman ng politiko,
16:36.9
hindi,
16:37.3
meron akong kwandon.
16:38.7
Meron akong official na kwandon
16:40.6
na,
16:41.3
na,
16:41.6
na,
16:41.6
na,
16:42.4
meeting,
16:42.7
may trip,
16:43.3
no?
16:43.5
Ganyan-ganyan.
16:44.3
So,
16:44.6
doon nagsimula yung chismis.
16:47.2
Makita sila publicly.
16:48.8
sa atin naman,
16:49.6
wala namang naitatago
16:50.6
sa panahon ng social media,
16:52.6
CCTV,
16:54.1
no?
16:54.4
Etcetera.
16:55.5
Ikaw,
16:55.9
Mark,
16:56.1
ka nalang mo dun sa issue na,
16:57.3
hindi ko Hong Kong,
16:58.4
di ba?
16:58.5
Hong Kong nag-meet or something?
17:00.1
Ano ba,
17:00.4
ano ba nangyari,
17:01.3
Sir Mark?
17:02.6
Hindi,
17:03.5
ano eh.
17:05.7
Nag-deny na sila pareho eh,
17:08.0
di ba?
17:08.2
Sinabi na ni Ivana,
17:09.7
na,
17:10.0
hindi daw,
17:11.0
pero kasi,
17:11.6
sumakto kasi dun,
17:12.4
sa timing na nag-umamin si Ivana,
17:14.7
na she is dating someone,
17:16.2
na meron siyang boyfriend ngayon,
17:18.0
yung love life niya,
17:18.9
happy,
17:19.8
di ba?
17:20.4
Pero hindi niya sinabi.
17:21.8
Tapos,
17:22.3
biglang lumabas yung issue na yan.
17:23.8
So,
17:24.3
parang saktong-sakto eh.
17:25.6
So,
17:25.8
she had to make,
17:26.9
she had to make,
17:28.0
ano na,
17:28.2
hindi,
17:28.6
hindi politician,
17:30.6
businessman.
17:32.9
O,
17:33.2
eh,
17:33.3
businessman din naman yun.
17:35.2
Ang gilala ko yun,
17:35.8
dito pa parehas,
17:36.5
di ba po,
17:37.2
business din ang politics sa atin.
17:39.6
Hindi,
17:39.7
ang gilala ko yun,
17:40.5
dati niyang boyfriend,
17:42.2
na,
17:42.2
congressman.
17:44.2
No?
17:44.7
Congressman,
17:45.2
na dating artista.
17:47.3
O,
17:47.8
yun ang gilala ko.
17:48.4
Palapit na.
17:49.4
O,
17:49.6
konti na lang,
17:50.3
blind,
17:50.5
hindi na blind item ulit yan.
17:53.1
Gilala ko yun,
17:54.1
o.
17:55.9
Patakbo pa yata ang governor ngayon eh.
17:59.2
Alam ko yun,
17:59.9
yung nagpalit ng baby ni Mara
18:01.3
tsaka ni Clara nung araw eh.
18:05.1
Yun ang nakalala ko sa,
18:06.3
sa ano na yan eh.
18:07.7
Masa siya yung nagpalit nung ano,
18:08.7
nung si Mara tsaka si Clara,
18:10.2
si Judy Ann,
18:11.0
nung baby sila.
18:11.9
Wala,
18:12.3
wala lang.
18:13.4
Check ko lang.
18:14.9
Pero,
18:15.1
baka ganun yung tipo talaga ni Ivana.
18:18.1
Baka ganun talaga yung type eh.
18:20.8
Anong type?
18:22.0
Older gentleman na medyo,
18:24.7
medyo
18:25.5
established na sa buhay.
18:28.9
Kasi yun nga,
18:29.8
parang
18:30.0
uminit din yata yung sa anak niya,
18:31.9
diba?
18:32.2
Na parang merong mga laughing emoji pa.
18:34.7
Na parang,
18:35.3
hindi ko sure eh.
18:36.0
Baka may,
18:36.8
baka may alam yung
18:38.2
anak ni,
18:39.1
nung
18:39.5
politician
18:40.6
na ayaw,
18:41.9
ayaw lang sabihin.
18:42.8
Diba?
18:43.0
Ayaw lang ano.
18:43.7
Ano man tayo eh.
18:44.9
Si Ronald,
18:45.7
naka-emoji yung mukha niya ngayon.
18:47.8
Mukha pa lang yung emoji namin.
18:49.9
Si Ronald,
18:50.9
hindi ba parang,
18:52.5
Si Ronald,
18:53.7
diba parang yung pag,
18:54.8
ano pala,
18:55.5
parang mag-negate ka lang.
18:57.4
Pwede ka sa,
18:58.0
kasi nilink ka sa isang artista,
18:59.8
yung pag mag-release ka ng statement.
19:01.6
This is to clarify
19:02.5
na hindi kami
19:03.7
nag-date ni ganito.
19:05.4
Sa ganitong araw,
19:06.7
never ako nag-de-date
19:08.0
ng mga sikat na artista,
19:09.5
kahit man si ganito.
19:10.3
Diba?
19:10.7
Sa weekend ka na rin eh.
19:11.9
Sa disclaimer mo pa lang,
19:14.6
sikat ka na.
19:15.8
Ang problema sa mga ganyang mga denier,
19:18.1
lalo ka na d-de-in eh.
19:19.9
Pero good for politics.
19:21.3
Lalo kang,
19:22.0
ano diba,
19:22.6
lalong mileage yan.
19:24.1
Pag nag-denier ka,
19:25.6
eh lalo kang,
19:26.3
lalo kang na d-de-in.
19:28.0
Kaya yung iba,
19:29.1
tumatahimik na lang.
19:30.9
Eh Ronald,
19:32.0
sir,
19:32.2
tahimik lang tayo,
19:33.1
sir.
19:33.8
Mark,
19:34.4
Mark,
19:34.7
balikan kita.
19:35.7
Ito,
19:36.1
Mark,
19:36.6
kasi alam mo naman ako,
19:37.7
I'm a good man,
19:38.5
ano lang ako,
19:39.3
academic lang,
19:40.1
teacher lang,
19:40.8
mga ganyan.
19:41.2
Anong alam mo sa mga buhay ng mga artista?
19:43.4
Hindi ba mga malalaking kita na mga yan?
19:45.3
Bakit sila naghanap ng businessman or politiko?
19:47.5
I mean,
19:47.7
don't they wanna be like,
19:48.7
I don't know,
19:49.0
independent,
19:50.1
self-reliant?
19:51.0
Di ba million-million naman ang kita?
19:52.6
Or ito ba yung tipong,
19:53.8
malaki din ang kasing gasto?
19:55.0
I'm not talking about the person we discussed,
19:56.5
I mean in general.
19:57.6
Siguro malakas ang gastos nila,
19:59.1
kaya kailangan nila ng,
20:00.0
I mean,
20:00.4
I'm sorry for saying this,
20:01.7
pero parang,
20:02.7
do you know what I'm saying?
20:03.4
Like if you're earning millions from,
20:05.4
Hindi,
20:05.7
kasi yung,
20:06.4
sa mga artista,
20:08.1
yung talagang daang million ang kita,
20:10.5
ilan lang naman yan,
20:12.0
nabibilang naman yan sa daliri,
20:15.0
yung ganyong level na Ding Dong Marian,
20:18.0
na Katniel,
20:19.1
di ba,
20:19.3
na gano'n.
20:19.7
Tapos sila-sila usually yung nag-aasawahan.
20:22.0
Pero after mo nun,
20:23.3
yung mga susunod na mga ano,
20:25.4
na mga level ng mga artist,
20:27.3
di ba,
20:27.6
sakto lang din,
20:28.4
they just earn just enough lang din,
20:30.1
na maayos naman yung buhay.
20:31.9
E kung gusto mo yung,
20:33.1
yung the finer things in life,
20:34.6
di ba,
20:35.0
yung mga luxurious na ano,
20:37.0
syempre,
20:37.3
yung grupo na yun,
20:41.4
ang maraming disposable na inggam.
20:47.1
Tama si Mark,
20:48.5
high maintenance kasi.
20:50.3
Exactly.
20:51.8
Kailangan mong bumiyahe,
20:53.7
di ka naman mababiyahe ng economy,
20:57.0
di ba,
20:57.6
kailangan mong medala kang mga bag,
20:59.2
ng mga LB,
21:00.6
no,
21:01.1
so,
21:02.1
kasi,
21:03.0
show eh,
21:04.3
it's about show.
21:05.4
Showing yung kwal mo eh,
21:06.6
di ba,
21:07.0
kaya,
21:07.3
napakataas na ng maintenance.
21:10.4
Kaya,
21:10.9
talagang malaki ang gastos.
21:12.2
Tapos,
21:12.5
sabi nga ni Mark,
21:13.7
hindi naman ganung karami yun,
21:14.9
talagang humahataw ng malaki.
21:16.7
Di ba,
21:17.0
1 million dollars,
21:18.3
no,
21:18.5
yung ganyan.
21:19.2
Maramihan naman yung mga kwal lang eh.
21:21.2
Eh,
21:21.5
ngayon,
21:21.9
ang 500,000,
21:23.1
1 million,
21:23.7
ubos na yan eh.
21:24.3
Ubos ka agad yan eh.
21:25.4
Dahil,
21:25.8
may mga funds ka,
21:28.1
di ba,
21:28.6
may mga,
21:29.2
may lifestyle ka na imaintain,
21:31.5
di ba.
21:32.3
At meron pa ako dadagdag,
21:33.5
Richard,
21:34.2
ngayon kasi,
21:34.8
ang nangyayari,
21:35.7
yung iba,
21:37.3
sa pelikula,
21:38.6
o sa TV,
21:39.3
nage-extra,
21:40.3
o kaya doon sa Vivamax na yan,
21:42.0
nagpapataas lang ng presyo.
21:44.2
Yun yung,
21:44.8
yun yung galawan ng iba.
21:47.2
Para,
21:47.7
yung value nila tumataas.
21:49.8
Market value,
21:50.6
no?
21:50.8
Market value to.
21:52.1
Oo.
21:52.7
Ako,
21:53.2
ano,
21:53.6
kumaga,
21:54.0
hindi naman natin sila ginadjudge,
21:55.7
hindi naman,
21:56.1
wala naman silang sinasaktan na tao,
21:58.3
di ba?
21:59.0
Wala naman silang sinasaktan ng ibang tao,
22:00.7
pero,
22:01.4
kumaga,
22:01.8
yun lang yung kanilang diskarte sa buhay,
22:03.7
kung paano mas,
22:04.7
mas,
22:05.2
ah,
22:05.6
maging komportable yung buhay nila.
22:08.2
No, no,
22:08.4
actually, bro,
22:09.0
I'm exactly saying na,
22:11.3
ah,
22:12.0
parang weird na,
22:13.7
may mga judgmental na comments,
22:15.3
no,
22:15.5
eto,
22:15.8
nag-asawa ng mayaman,
22:16.9
businessman,
22:17.4
ganun.
22:17.6
Parang point ko naman,
22:18.9
bakit ganun yung judgment?
22:19.8
Eh, mayaman naman itong mga artista,
22:21.4
hindi naman nila kailangan yung pera.
22:22.8
Eh, doon,
22:23.0
actually,
22:23.6
I'm pushing back against that.
22:25.3
Pero,
22:25.7
at the same time,
22:26.2
gets ko yung sinasabi nyo,
22:27.2
yung political economy lifestyle ng celebrities,
22:29.4
di ba?
22:29.9
Na-expected na ang kotse mo ay ganyan,
22:32.2
na-expected yung adamit mong ganyan.
22:34.4
Kahit bili ka na maraming fake,
22:35.8
at the end of the day,
22:36.5
kailangan mo pa rin mag-business class,
22:38.4
kailangan mo pa rin mag-hotel na matino,
22:40.1
kasi kung makita ka sa ganito,
22:41.6
ganyan na kachipangan,
22:43.1
baka mapahiya ka,
22:44.0
di ba?
22:44.1
It's all about,
22:44.9
it's expensive to put on the show,
22:46.5
right?
22:46.7
No, no,
22:47.0
that means very difficult,
22:48.0
di ba?
22:48.5
So, Richard,
22:49.5
karamihan ng artista,
22:50.6
overrated yung,
22:51.7
ah,
22:52.3
malaki ang sahod.
22:53.6
Karamihan ng artista,
22:54.5
hindi ganun kalaki,
22:55.8
yung mga sahod nila.
22:56.6
Hanggang ngayon,
22:57.2
even in the era of social media,
22:58.9
kasi,
22:59.2
milyon-milyon ng daily engagement
23:01.8
ng mga iba dyan.
23:02.7
So, I was expecting,
23:03.5
kumikita sa online mga yan,
23:05.4
hindi,
23:05.8
like, for example,
23:06.5
Cristiano Ronaldo,
23:07.6
mas malaking kita niya sa Instagram niya,
23:09.9
kaysa dun sa football clubs niya.
23:11.6
So, he earns, like I say,
23:12.8
50 to 100 million on Instagram,
23:15.1
habang 30 million
23:16.2
bawat taon ang bayad sa akin,
23:17.5
let's say, of Juventus.
23:18.8
Kaya,
23:19.2
dyan galing yung sinasabi ko.
23:20.5
Gets ko yung sinasabi niya
23:21.8
na sa mainstream media,
23:22.8
hindi na ganun kalaki yung bayad.
23:24.4
Pero,
23:24.7
ang alam ko,
23:25.2
itong artista na,
23:26.1
laki ng following.
23:27.1
So, endorsements and all palang,
23:28.5
I don't know,
23:28.8
I was expecting.
23:29.8
Hindi rin ganun.
23:30.7
Iba si Ivana Alawi.
23:32.3
Iba si Bea Alonzo.
23:34.0
I expect si Ivana Alawi,
23:35.6
laki ng kwantal ganyan.
23:37.0
Ang laki ng viewers niyan.
23:40.3
Si Bea,
23:40.8
hindi kasi laki ng Ivana.
23:44.0
Yung sa case ni Ivana,
23:45.4
ito personal ko lang natingin.
23:47.0
Tingin ko,
23:47.6
baka preference niya talaga,
23:49.0
mga ganun,
23:49.6
mga older guy na,
23:51.6
siguro,
23:52.5
baka businessman
23:53.2
o politiko,
23:54.5
baka preference niya talaga eh.
23:56.1
Hindi sa pumapasok siya sa relasyon
23:58.8
dahil sa mayaman lang
24:00.9
o dahil sa...
24:01.5
Baka yun talaga yung preference niya.
24:03.5
Emotional security,
24:04.9
siguro ganun.
24:05.4
Oo eh.
24:06.8
Siyempre,
24:07.9
being that,
24:09.6
it comes with confidence,
24:11.1
it comes with a,
24:12.1
di ba,
24:12.5
swagger na,
24:14.3
na bilyonaryo
24:15.5
o successful businessman o politiko.
24:17.8
So, baka talaga yun talaga tipo niya.
24:19.7
Hindi niya kailangan,
24:20.6
she can survive on her own.
24:23.0
Pero,
24:24.3
doon siya na-attract eh.
24:25.3
So,
24:26.1
kanya-kanya lang,
24:26.8
ano talaga yan?
24:28.8
Just to clarify,
24:29.8
before tayo mabash dito,
24:30.9
of course,
24:31.3
kasi tatot tayong lalaki,
24:32.4
so it might come off very wrong.
24:33.4
Let me be absolutely clear about it.
24:35.1
We're not trying to be judgmental.
24:36.3
We're trying to just understand
24:37.8
where is the judgment coming from,
24:39.3
what is the political economy
24:40.7
of the business industry.
24:42.5
Kasi si Ronald,
24:43.4
expert yan sa mga politiko
24:44.6
at saka yabangan ng politiko.
24:45.9
Ito,
24:46.2
ikaw,
24:46.7
expert kasi entertainment.
24:48.3
Ako naman,
24:48.9
personally,
24:49.3
I'm proud of what BEA has done.
24:51.9
I mean,
24:52.2
you know,
24:52.4
you have to know your worth,
24:54.8
right?
24:55.6
Now,
24:55.9
of course,
24:56.2
I don't want to speculate
24:57.0
about what's happening,
24:58.1
but clearly,
24:58.6
if there was really something there,
25:00.2
she would have fought for it.
25:01.3
So,
25:01.5
siguro na-realize na,
25:02.6
you know,
25:02.9
there was perhaps not as much
25:04.4
for her to commit herself
25:06.2
to a person.
25:07.1
So,
25:07.2
that's an expression of independence
25:08.7
and all.
25:09.1
So,
25:09.2
actually,
25:09.5
I'm proud of what BEA is doing.
25:10.9
In the same way,
25:11.2
I'm also very proud of si ano,
25:13.4
yung last time na pinag-usapan namin
25:15.0
ni Ogie Diaz,
25:15.9
di ba?
25:16.0
She's doing now very well
25:17.5
in Hollywood,
25:18.2
right?
25:19.0
Si Sebrano?
25:20.7
Liza.
25:22.0
Sebrano.
25:22.6
Hindi ko sinabi Liza
25:23.5
kasi naglilisa naman ako.
25:24.8
So, Liza,
25:25.4
I'm proud of her.
25:26.5
So, actually,
25:26.9
we're seeing this era
25:27.6
of these very confident women
25:29.9
also,
25:30.7
you know,
25:31.0
drawing the line.
25:32.0
Again,
25:32.3
no prejudice to the other side,
25:33.8
whether gas station,
25:34.9
whether rewarded,
25:35.8
whatever.
25:36.2
Yun lang sinasabi ko dito,
25:37.8
no?
25:38.3
But,
25:38.5
just to close on this episode,
25:40.5
Sir Ronald,
25:40.9
balingan natin,
25:41.5
political analysis pa rin tayo
25:42.8
kasi baka magalit sila
25:44.0
Sir Ogie sa atin.
25:45.5
Magta-turbing na tayo,
25:46.8
na-joke lang.
25:47.7
No,
25:48.0
Sir Ronald,
25:48.5
like,
25:49.7
where do you see this
25:50.7
intersection of showbiz
25:51.9
and politics going?
25:52.9
Do you think it's gonna get crazier?
25:54.1
as
25:55.3
celebrity politics?
25:57.1
I mean,
25:57.5
is there an evolution
25:58.4
in celebrity politics?
25:59.6
Kasi in the US,
26:00.4
we went from,
26:01.5
let's say,
26:02.0
Reagan
26:02.4
style of celebrity politics
26:04.8
or Arab style,
26:05.7
meaning,
26:05.9
dating artista,
26:06.9
nag-politico,
26:07.6
nag-LGO,
26:08.5
umakit sa presidente.
26:09.8
And now,
26:10.4
we're in era whereby Trump,
26:11.8
totally walang experience
26:12.8
nag-president ka agad,
26:14.0
diba?
26:14.5
Do you see a situation like that
26:16.0
in the Philippines
26:16.5
at some point?
26:17.6
I don't know,
26:18.1
vice ganda for the president
26:19.5
or, you know,
26:20.1
something like that,
26:20.8
diba?
26:20.9
I mean,
26:21.4
do you think we might go
26:22.6
to the election?
26:23.9
Dalawa.
26:24.1
Ano pa ang magiging dahilan
26:25.8
for scaling up
26:26.7
ng ganitong klaseng
26:27.6
intersection, no?
26:28.9
Una,
26:29.4
because of technology,
26:30.9
diba?
26:31.5
Because of technology,
26:32.5
pinag-uusapin natin
26:33.3
social media.
26:34.4
Yung ikalawa,
26:35.5
dahil sa age of disruption,
26:37.7
no?
26:37.8
Itong age of populism
26:39.3
or for a different term,
26:41.5
authenticity,
26:42.6
diba?
26:43.2
Meron kang ex-president
26:45.1
na,
26:45.7
na,
26:47.5
pinagmamalaki
26:48.2
na siya ay maraming
26:49.2
girlfriend,
26:50.2
no?
26:50.9
Pinagmamalaki na,
26:52.1
na,
26:52.9
pati yung kanyang
26:56.5
mga rape jokes
26:57.5
ay nagiging positibo
26:58.9
para sa kanya,
26:59.7
diba?
27:00.2
Meron kang,
27:00.7
meron kang presidente
27:02.0
na,
27:02.9
nangahalik in public,
27:04.8
diba?
27:05.4
So,
27:05.9
value added sa kanya yun,
27:07.4
no?
27:07.8
So,
27:08.4
yung ganitong klaseng
27:09.5
pagiging showbiz,
27:11.6
no?
27:12.0
Pagiging disruptor
27:13.3
ay
27:13.8
nag-i-intersect din
27:15.6
sa showbiz,
27:16.6
diba?
27:17.2
Yung politika
27:18.0
tsaka showbiz,
27:19.1
halos hindi mo na alam eh
27:20.2
yung difference eh
27:21.6
dahil yung politika
27:22.4
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.7
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.8
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.8
nagiging showbiz,
27:22.9
at yung showbiz
27:23.9
nagiging politika.
27:25.5
O,
27:25.7
yun yung intersection
27:27.3
na nakikita natin
27:28.3
at nag-i-scale up yan
27:29.7
because of technology,
27:31.3
no?
27:31.6
Because of technology.
27:32.9
Sa mga television pa,
27:34.0
may kaunti ka pang
27:34.7
MTRCB eh.
27:36.0
Sa mga radio,
27:37.8
meron ka pa mga protocols eh,
27:39.2
diba?
27:39.7
Ngayon,
27:40.3
nababawasan na gusto
27:41.3
yung mga protocols na yun eh.
27:42.8
You can get away with it eh,
27:44.3
diba?
27:44.7
Yun yung,
27:45.3
kung tatanggalin ka ng Facebook,
27:47.4
pwede ka magtayo ng bago,
27:48.9
kinabukasan,
27:49.7
no?
27:50.7
No?
27:51.0
Or,
27:51.4
or sa susunod na oras
27:52.8
pwede ka magtayo ng bago.
27:54.1
So,
27:54.5
kung ano eh,
27:55.2
yung,
27:55.4
yung checks and balance,
27:58.5
halimbawa sa broadcast
27:59.7
at saka sa radio dati,
28:01.7
ay medyo na-loosen up
28:03.0
with social media,
28:04.4
no?
28:06.1
Mark,
28:06.6
I'll go to you
28:07.0
because you're also very expert
28:08.2
on this entertainment
28:08.9
politics intersection.
28:09.8
I mean,
28:09.9
after all,
28:10.3
you came from,
28:11.1
you know,
28:11.4
from entertainment
28:11.9
into politics
28:12.7
and then now you're mixing it.
28:14.2
Kaya nga,
28:14.4
I really needed you to be
28:15.3
on this program together with us
28:16.5
but I also wanted Ronald
28:17.4
because of the
28:18.0
alternative perspective.
28:19.0
You know,
28:20.4
Sir Ronald,
28:21.3
I mean,
28:22.2
hindi ba nakakatakot?
28:22.8
Nakakatakot yun?
28:23.6
I mean,
28:24.1
this direction?
28:24.8
I mean,
28:24.9
again,
28:25.2
of course,
28:25.5
I'll make disclaimers.
28:26.4
Like,
28:26.5
for instance,
28:27.0
Zelensky,
28:28.0
dateng comedian,
28:29.1
right,
28:29.4
who was playing the role
28:30.3
of a president
28:30.8
in a dark comedy,
28:32.3
naging presidente
28:32.9
and in many ways,
28:34.6
he surprised us
28:35.3
in very good ways,
28:36.3
diba?
28:36.5
Ang ganda ng labas,
28:37.4
talagang fighter siya,
28:38.8
diba?
28:39.0
He really fought back
28:40.2
and was there for his country
28:41.2
but I'm not sure
28:42.2
all ex-comedians,
28:43.8
artistas,
28:44.3
becoming suddenly presidents
28:45.4
will turn out like Zelensky.
28:46.5
I don't want to be judgmental.
28:47.5
I'm just saying,
28:48.4
I don't think you get
28:49.2
the right training
28:50.0
for leadership
28:52.8
in English.
28:53.3
I'm not saying na
28:53.9
porkit naka-entertainment
28:55.1
ka hindi ka pwede.
28:55.6
I'm just saying,
28:56.9
this is not necessarily
28:58.5
the best preparation
29:00.7
for very difficult job
29:02.6
kasi itong
29:03.6
politics as spectacle,
29:05.3
diba?
29:06.0
Doon,
29:06.3
doon na,
29:06.8
ano eh,
29:07.1
doon nawawala yung appreciation
29:08.4
of how complex,
29:09.9
how difficult
29:10.7
public administration
29:11.9
and governance is.
29:13.3
Lalong-lalo na
29:14.0
sa panahon natin eh.
29:15.1
It's not about
29:15.7
preparation eh
29:17.2
dahil maraming
29:17.8
nga yung mga advisors eh,
29:19.5
maraming nga yung mga PR guys eh,
29:21.4
maraming nga yung mga ganyan
29:22.5
na pwede kang
29:23.2
pwede kang gawin showbiz.
29:25.4
No?
29:25.5
Pwedeng gawin,
29:26.4
pwedeng kunin yung
29:27.4
positivity ng showbiz
29:29.0
sa politika.
29:30.3
So,
29:30.6
hindi kina-kailangan mo
29:31.5
maging erap eh.
29:33.0
Hindi mo kina-kailangan
29:33.6
maging erap.
29:34.4
May mga advisor ka
29:35.6
na
29:36.6
i-handle yung buong
29:38.8
political narrative mo
29:40.4
para magkaroon
29:41.4
ng showbiz component.
29:43.0
At marami,
29:43.7
at yung data analytics
29:45.4
ay magiging bahagi niyan.
29:47.6
Ano pa yung kilitin
29:48.4
ng mga tao?
29:49.2
Bakit itong mga bloggers na ito
29:50.7
from out of nowhere,
29:52.2
bigla,
29:52.5
ilang milyon,
29:53.6
milyon na nakikinig,
29:54.9
nag-review.
29:55.6
So, kukunin nila yan eh.
29:57.0
So, dyan,
29:57.5
dyan,
29:58.0
dyan yung intersection
29:59.5
ng technology.
30:00.5
Mababa,
30:00.9
mahalaga ang data analytics eh.
30:02.4
Tayo kasi,
30:03.2
Richard,
30:03.8
malaking bahagi ng ating
30:04.9
calculation,
30:05.9
pakiramdam eh.
30:07.2
Instinct.
30:07.7
Yeah.
30:08.4
Pero ngayon,
30:09.5
maraming mga PR,
30:11.3
handlers,
30:12.4
advisors,
30:13.7
gagamitin talaga nila
30:14.8
itong,
30:15.4
itong technology
30:17.0
ng data analytics
30:18.4
para tignan
30:19.1
paano pa nila
30:19.9
i-spin,
30:21.0
paano pa nila ipapackage,
30:22.5
paano pa nila
30:23.1
i-dramatize
30:24.1
itong kanilang kandidato.
30:25.9
Kaya,
30:26.6
Kwan,
30:27.2
Is there a healthy balance?
30:29.7
I mean,
30:30.1
could there be a roadmap
30:31.1
of how to leverage
30:32.4
the new technology
30:33.4
in order to actually
30:35.2
popularize
30:36.6
good governance?
30:38.8
98% of politicians
30:40.4
are not looking
30:41.2
for a healthy balance.
30:43.0
So, yung 2%?
30:45.4
Ano natin tulungan yung 2%?
30:47.4
They're looking,
30:48.2
they're looking to win,
30:49.5
no?
30:49.6
Yan yung,
30:50.0
yan yung Kwan nila.
30:51.2
Yung 2%,
30:52.2
baka.
30:53.2
Pero,
30:54.0
mismo yung 2%
30:55.0
hirap eh.
30:55.9
Diba?
30:56.6
Dahil,
30:57.7
may limit yung kanilang spin.
30:59.9
May limit yung kanilang
31:00.9
pampubola.
31:01.7
May limit yung kanilang
31:02.5
populism eh.
31:03.8
No?
31:04.2
Hindi nila,
31:05.7
mismo sila,
31:07.1
baka yung 2% na yan,
31:08.7
hindi na,
31:09.2
hindi na papasok
31:10.2
sa politika eh.
31:11.1
Kesa dun sa
31:11.8
masyadong
31:12.6
mabastardize,
31:14.1
masyadong
31:14.6
matrivialize
31:16.1
yung kanilang message.
31:17.3
No?
31:18.8
Doon nga sa isang
31:19.6
dinaluhan ko last month,
31:21.6
na,
31:22.2
na conference
31:23.4
sponsored ng isang
31:24.6
embassy,
31:25.7
no?
31:25.8
Nagdebate over TikTok eh.
31:27.8
Dahil yung ibang embassy,
31:29.0
ang message nila,
31:30.4
huwag nating
31:30.8
i-trivialize yung ating
31:31.9
message.
31:32.8
Halimbawa,
31:33.3
sa South China Sea.
31:34.3
Yan yung Kwan nila.
31:35.9
Dahil yung TikTok kasi,
31:37.5
by its very nature,
31:38.6
is
31:38.9
trivialization eh.
31:41.2
Ang,
31:41.4
ang debate,
31:42.4
pumasok nga ako sa debate,
31:43.7
sabi ko,
31:44.8
kahit na,
31:45.9
kahit na,
31:46.4
dahil most people
31:47.5
nandun sa level
31:48.4
ng civilization.
31:49.9
You have to get
31:50.5
their attention first.
31:51.6
And then,
31:52.7
most people
31:53.2
are trivial.
31:54.9
Including,
31:55.6
including us.
31:57.0
Diba?
31:57.4
Yun yung,
31:57.8
yun yung mahalaga.
31:58.7
Paano pumunta ka sa
31:59.8
manonood ng
32:00.9
three-minute na documentary?
32:02.5
Kailangan mo muna
32:03.2
ng TikTok na 30 seconds
32:04.7
or one minute.
32:05.8
Diba?
32:06.3
Para dali mo sila
32:07.3
sa isang
32:07.8
mas magandang platform.
32:08.9
Pero yun nga,
32:09.5
actually,
32:10.1
kung andun lang ako,
32:10.9
binash ko yung mga iba dyan,
32:11.9
for sure,
32:12.4
they have no experience
32:13.1
in social media.
32:13.8
Actually,
32:14.4
help,
32:14.9
mighty magulang,
32:16.2
right?
32:16.6
We have so many people,
32:17.8
millions of followers,
32:19.0
na actually,
32:19.4
they don't do trivial,
32:20.6
you know,
32:20.8
ridiculous,
32:21.1
they actually do
32:21.8
very decent stuff
32:22.7
on TikTok and all.
32:23.8
And as I said,
32:25.4
I'm suspicious with TikTok
32:26.5
on West Philippine Sea
32:27.4
kasi ilang beses
32:28.1
ako na-censor doon.
32:29.4
But in general,
32:30.3
political education,
32:31.2
I think TikTok,
32:32.1
may book talk,
32:32.9
diba?
32:33.0
May book talk series.
32:34.5
They do very well,
32:35.2
diba, Mark?
32:36.1
I don't think
32:36.9
TikTok is by nature.
32:38.0
Good example yung
32:39.0
kay Mighty Magulang
32:40.0
yung mga iba pang ano.
32:43.1
Kahit si Prof. Shao,
32:44.2
diba?
32:44.5
Nakikita ko din
32:45.1
yung mga TikToks niya
32:46.1
about history
32:47.2
and ano.
32:48.0
So,
32:48.3
magandang platform talaga
32:49.4
para yung mga,
32:50.7
kasi,
32:51.1
to get people
32:52.1
interested bit by bit,
32:53.5
eh.
32:54.3
Hanggang,
32:55.3
diba?
32:55.5
Hindi mo siya pwedeng
32:56.4
i-present na isang
32:57.2
bagsakan ganun.
32:58.6
They'll just
32:59.0
get turned off
33:01.1
or turn away.
33:02.1
Gusto ko lang din
33:02.5
nag-recharge.
33:03.3
Ang dami na din
33:03.8
mga politiko
33:05.0
ang nagsisimulang
33:06.5
mag-artista.
33:07.9
O ngayon,
33:08.8
parang nakikita ko din
33:09.7
trend,
33:09.9
bumibili sila ng
33:10.6
Black Time sa GMA.
33:12.6
Diba?
33:13.1
Parang may talk show
33:14.4
yung senador
33:16.8
kasama si Boy Abunda.
33:18.6
Diba?
33:19.2
Tapos,
33:19.9
kaso hindi bumibenta,
33:21.1
eh.
33:21.7
Ayun lang.
33:23.1
Totentik, eh.
33:23.8
Tapos,
33:24.1
meron isang congressman
33:25.2
na magkakaroon din
33:26.4
ng show sa GMA.
33:28.0
Tapos,
33:28.2
yung billboards na,
33:28.9
ang dami sa Metro Manila.
33:30.5
So,
33:30.7
may mga ganong,
33:31.7
ano.
33:32.3
Tapos,
33:32.7
pansin ko din,
33:34.2
yung isang senador
33:36.1
na may comedy show,
33:38.1
panay-billboard na
33:39.0
yung comedy show niya
33:39.7
sa Metro Manila.
33:40.7
Ang dami na.
33:41.6
Diba?
33:42.8
Yung election
33:43.9
sa Indonesia,
33:45.3
no?
33:45.9
Yan yata yung isang
33:47.0
pinakamalaking
33:47.7
election so far,
33:49.3
no?
33:49.8
Eh,
33:50.0
puro TikTok yun, eh.
33:51.1
Puro TikTok yung gamit
33:52.9
ang mga kanila.
33:53.0
It's the first TikTok elections.
33:54.5
Yes.
33:55.4
First TikTok elections,
33:56.3
that's how I called it.
33:57.3
And si Prabowo,
33:58.7
very notorious person,
34:00.6
son-in-law ni
34:01.4
Suharto,
34:02.9
special commanders,
34:04.1
general overseeing
34:05.3
many-
34:05.4
Human rights violation.
34:07.1
Daming nag-disappear
34:08.0
sa ISIMO.
34:08.7
Naging cuddly
34:09.7
tatay siya.
34:10.6
Literally,
34:11.0
parang tatay version siya.
34:12.3
May pusa pa.
34:13.0
May pusa pa kasama.
34:14.2
I mean, guys,
34:15.0
pero ito,
34:16.2
Ronaldo,
34:16.7
baka may machisis ka.
34:17.8
May taga-Indonesia
34:18.6
nagsabi sa akin
34:19.4
na yung team ni
34:21.1
Prabowo
34:22.0
ay same team
34:23.2
ni BBM daw
34:24.6
na nag-handle
34:25.6
ng PR niya
34:26.2
ng TikTok.
34:26.7
Actually,
34:27.0
very similar yung signature.
34:28.6
Yung,
34:29.1
huwag na tayo mag-debate,
34:30.7
pakit lang tayo.
34:31.9
And both of them,
34:33.2
boom,
34:33.5
70% sa Gen Z,
34:34.9
70-80% sa Gen Z
34:36.1
base sa mga
34:36.6
authoritative surveys.
34:38.0
Ewo,
34:38.3
suspicious nga eh.
34:41.0
Suspicious nga eh.
34:41.6
I mean,
34:42.5
I mean Swiss.
34:44.3
Si ano,
34:44.8
si-
34:45.3
Malapit ko na
34:49.2
sabihin yung pangalan.
34:50.1
I'm shocked.
34:51.1
Ang dami natin blind item
34:52.4
na hindi ito
34:53.2
na napa-blind item
34:55.0
ngayon.
34:55.5
Sir Mark,
34:56.3
anong huli?
34:56.7
Ikaw yung first,
34:58.3
ikaw yung talagang
34:59.3
perfect blogger
35:00.7
na has been
35:01.5
intersecting
35:02.6
these both politics
35:03.5
and entertainment.
35:04.2
Anong basa mo so far
35:05.1
in terms of the evolution
35:06.0
of the game?
35:09.0
I would like to believe
35:10.4
na
35:10.7
mas tumatalino
35:12.2
dapat sana
35:12.9
yung mga voters natin
35:14.0
pero
35:14.4
parang pareho pa rin eh.
35:16.2
It's the same strategy
35:17.2
pa rin eh.
35:18.2
Lalabas pa rin.
35:19.2
Kung baga,
35:19.9
yung,
35:20.2
yung,
35:21.1
minari,
35:21.4
may isang artista
35:22.1
sa batang kiyapo
35:23.4
pag malapit na eleksyon
35:24.4
bigla siyang mamamatay.
35:26.4
Bibigyan siya ng heroic
35:27.6
tapos
35:28.2
magre-reflect na
35:29.4
mananalo na sa
35:30.3
sa Senado
35:31.8
yun lang yung ginawa.
35:33.3
Diba?
35:33.5
Parang,
35:34.0
parang
35:34.5
yun na talaga
35:36.0
ang hirap,
35:36.5
ang hirap.
35:37.0
Kaya naman tayo
35:37.5
lalagpas sa ganun eh.
35:38.9
Na,
35:39.5
ang pag-uusapan
35:40.3
yung mga qualifications,
35:41.7
yung mga nagawa,
35:42.5
yung mga,
35:43.2
hindi yung,
35:43.6
hindi yung ano lang eh.
35:44.7
Hindi yung,
35:45.6
mga,
35:47.5
hindi walang connection
35:48.2
sa trabaho nila eh.
35:49.5
hindi walang connection
35:51.3
doon sa kanilang gagawin
35:52.4
doon sa Senado eh.
35:54.7
Diba?
35:55.0
In fairness nga dito
35:55.7
kay Sen. Robbins,
35:56.6
ang dami pang sinasabi
35:57.9
na federalism,
35:58.6
yung mga ganun pa eh.
35:59.3
At least,
36:00.1
medyo related pa doon
36:01.0
sa trabaho.
36:01.5
Yung minsan,
36:01.8
iba wala na lang talaga eh.
36:03.6
Kaya,
36:04.0
sana,
36:04.8
sana,
36:06.3
hindi ko alam actually
36:07.2
kung paano tayo,
36:08.4
kung paano lalagpas
36:10.0
doon sa ganun level.
36:11.3
I mean,
36:11.5
I think we already knew
36:12.8
we are going this direction
36:13.9
nung si,
36:14.5
no offense to him,
36:15.2
Bong Revilla,
36:15.9
top the Senate race.
36:16.8
Diba?
36:17.0
Like,
36:17.1
ang dami nag-react
36:18.2
nung nag-number one
36:19.0
si Robin Padilla,
36:20.1
Robin Hood Padilla,
36:20.9
yung besye ni Ronald.
36:22.0
Pero sabi ko,
36:22.4
wait lang,
36:23.0
last time I checked,
36:24.2
more than a decade ago,
36:25.3
actually,
36:25.6
si Bong Revilla pa
36:26.9
yung nag-top ng Senate.
36:27.9
So,
36:28.1
this is not something new.
36:29.4
This is a trend
36:30.0
that has been gaining strength
36:31.3
over the past decade or so.
36:32.9
And Ronald,
36:33.4
I mean,
36:33.5
after all,
36:34.0
political show tayo.
36:35.5
I think this is a reflection
36:36.5
of the non-existence
36:38.0
of political parties.
36:39.3
When there are no real
36:40.0
political parties
36:40.8
for people to rally around,
36:42.1
no real agenda,
36:43.1
no,
36:43.2
so this is where
36:44.1
slightly na magpo-pushback
36:45.6
ako sa'yo, Mark, no?
36:47.1
Because I see
36:47.8
where you're coming from.
36:49.0
Pero ang point ko is,
36:49.9
pag tinignan mo sa perspektibo
36:51.3
ng mga voters,
36:52.4
eh wala naman totoong party, eh.
36:53.7
Wala naman totoong agenda,
36:54.9
policy.
36:56.0
Pasikatan na talaga yun, eh.
36:57.2
It's really gonna go down to
36:58.5
emotional connection
36:59.9
and relatability.
37:00.9
Di ba, Ronald?
37:01.3
I mean,
37:02.0
we are paying the price
37:03.1
for not building
37:03.9
real political parties.
37:05.1
We had a chance
37:05.8
to fix what Marcos destroyed,
37:07.8
di ba,
37:08.1
when Marcos created
37:08.8
essentially one-party system.
37:10.6
Pero hindi inayos yun
37:11.6
after, ano eh,
37:12.3
after ETSA.
37:13.1
So,
37:13.6
this ridiculous situation
37:15.1
we have in the Philippines,
37:16.0
no offense again,
37:17.1
but this kind of a fiesta,
37:19.0
pseudo-democracy
37:19.9
of intersection of,
37:21.7
you know,
37:22.4
showbiz and politics
37:23.6
and steroids
37:24.1
at the expense of
37:25.4
real political analysis
37:27.9
and, you know,
37:29.1
and evidence-based
37:29.8
public policy.
37:30.8
We're paying the price
37:31.5
for what was not done
37:32.4
two, three decades ago,
37:33.4
di ba, Ronald?
37:34.0
I mean, this is,
37:34.6
ito yung reading ko, ah.
37:35.9
This is just the opposite of that.
37:37.4
Aside from technology.
37:38.6
I think technology just
37:39.5
reinforced this very bad trend.
37:41.9
Yes,
37:42.2
pero nito kahit,
37:44.1
even,
37:44.6
meron din mga good spot,
37:46.4
mga bright spot,
37:47.1
eh,
37:47.7
na nangyari.
37:48.5
Limawa,
37:49.1
meron kang mga local mayors
37:50.7
na nagmarka
37:52.2
sa national politics
37:53.3
dahil may nagawa sila
37:54.5
sa kanilang syudad.
37:56.0
Di ba?
37:56.7
So,
37:57.2
siyempre,
37:58.5
pinakits nila yung sarili nila.
38:00.2
Limawa,
38:00.7
sinimulan niya ni Binay
38:01.7
dito sa Makati.
38:03.2
Di ba?
38:03.4
Yung kanyang,
38:04.3
ah,
38:04.7
kumbaga,
38:05.3
hindi siya purely spin, eh.
38:08.0
Hindi siya purely spin.
38:09.2
Kailangan meron ka rin
38:10.2
na deliver, eh.
38:11.8
At, ah,
38:12.6
for the first time,
38:14.0
yung mga local,
38:15.3
ah,
38:15.9
local officials natin,
38:17.1
nagiging national na ngayon.
38:19.8
Naging entablado yung kanilang,
38:21.3
ah,
38:21.9
yung kanilang locality, no?
38:23.4
Si Binay,
38:24.2
si Isko,
38:25.3
ah,
38:26.2
whether kahit ayaw natin sa kanya,
38:28.1
si Digong.
38:29.0
Di ba?
38:29.3
Yun yung,
38:29.7
yun yung kanila naging entablado, eh.
38:31.7
No?
38:32.0
So,
38:32.3
it's a mixture nung dalawa.
38:33.8
Kailangan mo rin magpakita ng performance.
38:36.0
Kailangan mo rin magpakita
38:37.2
na meron kang nagawa.
38:38.7
Na meron ka rin K.
38:39.9
Tapos,
38:40.4
tsaka muna,
38:40.9
i-build yung narrative mo,
38:42.2
i-spin muna
38:42.9
the Punisher.
38:44.2
Di ba?
38:44.4
Gagawin mo,
38:45.1
dito sa Makati,
38:47.1
so,
38:48.0
baka yun yung tinatanong mo kanina,
38:49.5
yung balancing.
38:50.5
Yung balancing na ganyan, no?
38:52.0
Alimbawa,
38:52.5
si Lisa Ontiveros, no?
38:54.6
Ontiveros, no?
38:55.5
Meron siya advocacy,
38:57.1
kaliwasya,
38:58.0
et cetera, et cetera.
38:59.1
Pero kinamit din niya
39:00.0
yung kanyang kagandahan
39:01.1
sa kampanya.
39:02.6
Dahil asset na yun, eh.
39:03.7
Di ba?
39:04.4
So,
39:05.2
ah,
39:06.2
Charisma, charisma.
39:07.3
At saka, well,
39:07.8
she's a journalist also.
39:08.9
Maba, ikaw,
39:09.4
pwede mong gamitin yung inyong
39:10.6
kagandahang lalaki.
39:11.6
Hindi ko kasi pwedeng gamitin, eh.
39:13.3
No?
39:15.5
Magpulot tayo.
39:16.0
Kaya yung buff body.
39:17.3
Yung buff body,
39:18.1
huwag mong kalimutan sa Ronald.
39:20.0
Gas station.
39:21.4
Electric nickel.
39:24.0
Okay.
39:25.0
Pero kailangan may pakita ka rin,
39:26.7
na,
39:26.9
kay...
39:27.5
Ayan na.
39:30.9
Ayan na.
39:31.8
Okay, okay.
39:32.4
Sir Ronald,
39:33.2
I think, I like we ended on a good note
39:34.9
because in a way,
39:36.0
ang sinabi mo rin dito is
39:37.1
technology is a double-edged sword.
39:39.2
So far,
39:39.7
medyo nakakabala,
39:40.6
pero actually,
39:41.1
pwede mo siya gamitin in a good way.
39:42.5
I mean,
39:43.0
we got to know more about
39:44.2
Benji Magalong,
39:45.4
Vico,
39:45.7
ah,
39:46.0
Vico Soto,
39:47.1
mayors from all across the country.
39:48.6
Hindi lang dahil sa mainstream media.
39:50.3
I mean,
39:50.5
most of us don't watch,
39:51.5
but it's because sa social media natin
39:53.3
nakikita.
39:53.6
So, I completely agree.
39:54.7
Kaya nga sabi ko,
39:55.7
paano natin magamit itong technology
39:57.7
for the good
39:58.5
while hindi pa natin naayos
40:00.2
itong political party mess
40:01.7
na meron tayo.
40:02.7
And I'm saying,
40:03.5
we're also paying the price
40:04.6
for what was lacking.
40:05.8
Anyways,
40:06.2
on that note,
40:07.4
itong episode natin napahaba.
40:08.8
Dapat kunting,
40:09.6
ano lang,
40:09.9
money tax lang.
40:11.1
Naging,
40:11.6
naging invent tayo bagong genre.
40:13.9
Sorry na,
40:14.5
Sir OG,
40:15.1
may kalaban ka.
40:16.0
May bagong genre na tayo.
40:18.0
RRM.
40:18.2
Pagpasok ko nga kanina,
40:19.4
akala ko,
40:20.2
hindi pa,
40:20.7
hindi pa kula eh.
40:21.7
Hindi pa nagsisimula.
40:22.2
Hindi pa nagstart.
40:23.1
Akala ko,
40:23.7
bakit na?
40:24.3
Like,
40:24.7
intermission lang tayo.
40:25.8
Akala namin,
40:26.2
intermission lang sana yan
40:27.6
habang wala ka pa.
40:29.1
Yung intermission,
40:30.0
naging mahabang episode bigla.
40:31.9
Andaming alam itong mga kasama ko.
40:33.9
Okay,
40:34.2
now,
40:34.4
let's go to another important topic
40:35.8
in the next episode,
40:36.8
Kiboloy.
40:37.4
Alright,
40:37.8
so,
40:38.4
Riza Ontiveros has been calling for
40:40.2
sa pinanayata.
40:41.0
Pag-usapan na natin itong
40:42.2
Kiboloy SMNI.
40:43.8
Before we talk about the big picture,
40:45.8
Lenny,
40:46.6
Riza,
40:47.2
opposition,
40:47.7
I think those are very important issues.
40:49.0
And of course,
40:49.9
you know,
40:50.6
we also recently got to know na,
40:52.2
confirmed na,
40:52.9
na matay na si Alexi Navalny
40:55.2
who's considered as one of the
40:56.7
most celebrated opposition leaders.
40:59.1
So,
40:59.3
let's also talk about,
41:00.3
let's talk about what is a true opposition leader.
41:02.6
Kasi grabe yung nadanan ni
41:04.1
Alexi Navalny.
41:05.8
But before that,
41:06.9
dito muna tayo sa Pilipinas.
41:08.3
Siguro,
41:08.5
Kiboloy muna ang pag-usapan natin.
41:09.7
Thank you very much to my
41:11.2
uh,
41:11.9
uh,
41:12.2
co-hosts
41:13.2
dito sa
41:13.8
Showbiz Central.
41:16.3
Dapat may bagong pangalan na tayo.
41:18.1
Showbiz Central.
41:19.6
Talaga si Sir Ronald.
41:20.7
Yung mga blind items,
41:21.6
may text mo sa akin mamaya.
41:23.0
Mga alam mong,
41:23.8
yung mga gaspang.
41:25.0
So,
41:25.3
recharge per minute.
41:26.7
Ayan.
41:27.4
Ayan tayo.
41:28.3
Thank you very much guys.
41:29.3
That was fantastic.
41:30.2
Sana hindi tayo mapahamak.
41:31.5
Kasi Ronald lang paamak.
41:33.3
God bless.