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Sen. Tolentino May TIP kung Paano Makalusot si Quibuloy sa Senado Contempt
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Sen. Tolentino May TIP kung Paano Makalusot si Quibuloy sa Senado Contempt
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In December, nung ako pa yung chairman ng Blue Ribbon Committee, binago natin yung rules.
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And the rules, as amended, would apply likewise to persons cited in contempt.
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So yung sa atin, sa pagbabago ng rules, binigyan po natin ng DIN yung karapatang pantao noong mga humaharap sa mga committee.
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So sa atin po nilagay, ay dapat kilalanin din yung kanilang karapatan as an individual, as a Filipino citizen.
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So yung sa akin, we reiterated that.
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At during that interview, ang sabi ko po, ay kung merong pamamaraang legal na gagawin si Pastor Kibuloy sa pagdulog sa usgado,
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kagaya nun nangyari noong NERI case sa Senado, kung inyo natatandaan pa, wala makakapigil sa kanya.
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At hindi dapat pigilan yun kasi karapatan niya yun.
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Kung sakaling siya naman ay dadalo sa isang pagbabago.
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At sa tinig ng Senado, kailangan din igalang ng committee ang kanyang karapatan.
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Ang ibig sabihin nun, huwag babastusin, huwag tatratuhin bilang isang nagkasala na.
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Dahil ang pagdidetermine ng pagkakasala ng isang tao, the right to adjudicate the guilt of a person lies with the court and not with a committee.
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Maliwanag po yan.
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Ang atin pong gawain dito sa Senado is to investigate in aid of legislation.
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It is not the right, it is not the duty of the Senate to condemn and imprison an individual.
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Because that individual, no matter how high nor lowly he is, has the same basic human right and the right of being the right to innocence.
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So igalang po yun.
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Yung po yung sinabi ko nun, igalang yung karapatan ni Pastor Kibuloy.
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How ako?
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Ang council of the target resource person, halimbawa yung kay Kibuloy.
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Can he insist to the committee to recognize his council given his supposed threat?
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Hindi po ako yung abugado dito ni Pastor.
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Pero kung siguro kung gustong gamitin ng abugado niya, nung binago po natin yung section 16 and 18,
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eh pwede niyang sabihin na bigyan din sila ng karapatan na mag-file ng memorandum, etc.
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Kagaya po nung ginawa natin doon sa mga nagdaang pagdinignan.
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So babalik at babalik po yan sa paggalang sa karapatan.
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Kahit sino man na nandun, kahit hindi si Pastor, huwag bastusin yung mga nandito sa kumaharap sa committee ng Senado.
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Sir, would it be, if we, if the Senate heads to the, to what Pastor Kibuloy wants, na non-appearance,
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would this not be, would this not set a bad precedent to our,
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other personalities who would be invited by the Senate?
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Hindi ko alam po yung dahilan niya eh. Hindi naman ako yung...
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So this should be case-to-case basis?
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Correct. Correct. So ulitin ko, may karapatan ang Senado na hilingin ang kanyang presensya,
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subalit yung kagaya po doon sa NERI case. Kung natandaan niyo yung NERI case,
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pinawalang visa ng Supreme Court yung contempt, nilift yun, yung si Romulo NERI.
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Okay.
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So na yun yung mga, yung mga bata-bata pa nun nandito nung panahon yun.
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So kung natatandaan niyo yun, nakialam ang, ang husgado, ang Supreme Court,
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at sinabi, lifted yung contempt order. So he can, he can utilize that.
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May karapatan naman siya eh. May abogado siya.
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Sir, parang yung halos nung sa farmally na umabot din sa court, parang gano'n din?
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He can, he can maximize, utilize all legal venues.
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Available to him. And no one should deprive him of that right.
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Wala na. Wala na. Nakakalimutan niyo na yung chacha. Sige. Wala na. Tapos na.
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Sir, tanong siya kung napag-usapan ba kayo informally?
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Yung?
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Yung chacha.
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Ay, yung...
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Among senators and congressmen.
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Kung pinag-usapan.
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Informally. Ano magsasabi?
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Hindi na informally. Hindi formal.
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Alam mo, masaya kami kanina. Nung sa, ano, sa prior to the signing, si,
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nasa harapan ko nakaupo si, si BBM, o sa kaliwa si SP,
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sa harapan ko sa kaliwa si, si speaker.
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So wala naman ako nakikitang, ah, rift.
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Ang, ang alam ko ay, ah, iisa pa rin ng kongreso.
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The lower house. Ang daming congressmen kanina.
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The lower house and the upper house. So, wala ko nakikitang, ah, pag-aaway.
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Kanina.
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Sir.
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Sa voting separately, would it not be a contentious issue?
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Kasi yung house naku, walang gano'ng...
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Well, well enshrined ang bicameralism sa ating sistema.
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Hindi naman...
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Wala pa naman, hindi pa naman tinatanggap na unicameral body ang dalawang kapulungan.
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Kaya, ah, even without mentioning that, voting separately yun.
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Sir, how would you deal with this ban ng, ano, ng kongreso?
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Ah, ulitin ko, ha?
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Tatlo lang ang modes ng pag-amend ng saligang batas.
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One, constitutional convention.
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Two, constituent assembly.
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Three, people's initiative.
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Itong nangyayari ngayon, this is, this is pursuant to a fourth mode coming from a commentary of the late Father Bernas.
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So, the lower house, by invoking the fourth mode, yung resolution of both houses, number seven, is in effect,
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saying that we are going to utilize the fourth mode, but even if the resolution is silent as to the manner of voting,
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the fourth mode speaks of voting, implies voting separately because of the bicameral nature of our congress.
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Pinahil nga nila ng bukod.
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Pinahil din namin ng bukod.
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Dinidinlig nila ng bukod.
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Dinidinlig namin ng bukod.
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Kung merong pagkakaiba doon, papasok sa bicameral conference committee.
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So, even though they're silent, their mere acceptance of the fourth mode implies that it has to be voted upon separately.
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Kuwentas klaro tayo doon?
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Yes, ma'am.
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Ang dami niyo recitation?
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Kasi may may statement ng mga congressman, may mga congressman, may mga congressman,
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na ako ay mga congressman na si Jelena.
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Kaya eventually, di mo rin hindi nilang kukuhain sa mga congressman.
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So, mga congressman, may mga congressman, may mga congressman, may mga congressman,
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They have to read the constitution.
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They have to read the constitution.
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No offense to them.
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Kaya na, sir.
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So, parang may wala yung mga religious, yung mga worries ng semen,
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o yung mga unnecessary,
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yung mga worries ng semen,
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yung mga worries ng semen,
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dapat ako kasi mga kategorical statement,
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galing from the speaker,
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hindi approved separately,
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para magagawa sa iyo.
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It doesn't follow.
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After the adoption,
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ulitin ko ha,
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no need to rush.
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Senate approves RBH 6.
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Without a self-improvement,
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it would have to be reconciled in a bicameral conference committee.
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And the end product would be submitted to the people in a plebiscite
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called for the purpose of approving or rejecting,
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the same.
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Ultimately, yung tao rin ang mag-de-decide nito eh.
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Diba?
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Pa-share paper na kayo.
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Sir, yung sentence sa pilingan,
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have you attended the three,
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the past three hearings ang saktong meeting?
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Matatapos ko ba na?
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Nakatatlo na ba? Dalawa pa lang?
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Hindi, yung una kasi yung general provisions eh.
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Okay.
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Matanda ko.
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Matanda ko nung
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business and education.
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Although not the entirety.
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From what you've heard,
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ano yung mas malamang
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to amend?
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Diba may sinasabi?
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Kailangan ng 18 votes
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ng Senado.
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Kailangan ng 18 votes whether to amend or not.
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So personally po,
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kadamit yun sa mga narinig nyo?
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Maritest na yun.
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Hindi, ikaw nga yun eh.
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Posa yun.
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Sir, from what you,
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from your point of view, mas madami
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na sumusuporta sa to amend it?
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O huwag muna, it's not
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the right time?
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Palagay ko mas maraming sumusuporta.
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Hindi ko lang alam kung
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na-reach na yung
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threshold na 18
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o kulang pa.
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Pero hindi pa tapos. May advertising pa tayo.
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O baka meron
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pang iba.
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Okay na tayo? Nakangalay na?
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Salamat, salamat, salamat, salamat.
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Pansin niyo kung may mga
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orokan doon sa paper.


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