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00:00.0
No, I need to go out here. That's it.
00:03.8
I go upstairs. I sleep there.
00:07.1
No, I need to make sure.
00:08.5
Yes, I really want you to go.
00:11.0
I will wait. I will wait.
00:14.7
You don't understand a s***.
00:18.4
Because how you treat me, this is your treatment.
00:21.7
I treat you how you treat me.
00:26.2
I need to go. I need to sleep. I need to go away.
00:35.1
Gano katagal nyo nang kilala itong si John Ulrich Isaacson?
00:40.7
Last year pa po, September 16, sa dating site po.
00:45.7
Tapos, then nung nag-umpisa na po kami mag-usap,
00:49.7
sabi niya mag-meet po daw kami in person.
00:52.0
Pero after namin magtawagan at night,
00:56.2
Noon na po kami. Nag-meet ng kinabukasan po.
00:58.9
Nasaan siya? Nandito na siya sa Pilipinas noon?
01:01.1
Bumalik na po siya nung February 2 po.
01:04.5
Galing po siya ng Sweden.
01:09.0
Hindi po bahay. Nag-hotel lang po kami. Ayaw po niya ng bahay eh.
01:12.5
Naka-hotel kayo ng ilang buwan?
01:14.2
Yes po. Palagi po kami nag-hotel. Wala pong bahay.
01:18.5
And Atrini, paalala ko lang po, ano po, five months po siyang buntis ngayon.
01:23.0
Magpa-five months po.
01:24.3
Kay John Ulrich ito?
01:28.0
Itong nakuha natin ngayon na video, ito ba ang unang pagkakataon na sinaktan ka niya?
01:34.9
Hindi po. Yung pinakauna po talaga dun sa Dutis Hotel, Butuan po.
01:39.7
October 27 po nung pagbili niya ng motor ng brother-in-law ko po.
01:44.1
Good afternoon, John.
01:46.5
We also have Christine Abulok, your girlfriend.
01:51.2
And she has claims of domestic abuse against you.
01:55.7
What can you say about this?
01:57.2
That's not my opinion.
01:59.4
Yeah, but I not beat her.
02:01.3
We were fighting.
02:02.5
Like this, I meet Christine in September, I think, 17.
02:07.1
And we had a relationship, but very much fighting.
02:10.7
Almost every day we fight.
02:12.5
Too much jealousy, everything.
02:14.4
So, I go back to Sweden, December 17.
02:18.0
And I think, okay, maybe we break up now.
02:21.1
Because this is not working.
02:22.5
Because we had so much problems all the time.
02:26.4
Then she called me from when I was in Sweden and told me she was pregnant.
02:31.0
So, I think, oh my God, she's pregnant.
02:33.5
And I'm very happy because I am very old.
02:35.8
Because I don't think I can make baby anymore.
02:38.4
So, I come back here to the Philippines to take care of her.
02:43.0
And for a while, we were good.
02:44.4
But then, we went to Sikihore.
02:47.1
And then, I find out she got 200,000 from another man when I was in Sweden.
02:53.0
And then, I feel like, oh my God.
02:55.6
I confronted her with this because I had screenshots.
02:58.3
First, she denied that.
02:59.7
But I had screenshots of the 200,000.
03:02.2
And then, I told her, I want to break up now.
03:05.3
Because if you have another man, I cannot go.
03:08.5
So, I wanted to break up with me.
03:11.5
And she did not accept.
03:12.7
Because she thinks I'm going to skip my obligation of the baby.
03:16.1
But I will not do that.
03:17.5
I told her always, if my baby, I will not skip.
03:20.7
So, we started fighting.
03:22.7
And Christine, she fights.
03:25.0
We fight for almost four hours.
03:27.3
And then, police come.
03:28.9
And police in La Reina, Sikihore, they immediate between us.
03:33.2
So, it ended up that I gave her 24,500.
03:37.2
And then, we break up.
03:38.5
And we never talk again.
03:40.0
And she was okay then.
03:41.6
I see she's in a wheelchair then.
03:43.6
But the police can say that she was okay when I left her.
03:48.7
But you think I can walk like that?
03:52.5
You think I can go to the hotel?
03:56.4
And you know, I have a pain.
03:57.6
I have a blood already.
03:59.0
And I told you to stop?
04:00.7
And you think I'm the one who fight with you?
04:05.5
Don't tell me everything is a lie.
04:07.8
What you see right now is all a lie.
04:10.9
Don't say like that.
04:11.8
Because from the beginning, I told you, I'm pregnant.
04:15.0
But you asked someone to taking care of this.
04:18.1
How hell you are?
04:19.7
My baby, I take care of that.
04:22.7
Why I should taking care of that?
04:25.8
And then I say, why you say that?
04:27.5
We've been together.
04:28.5
I don't go any man.
04:30.3
And he asked me, he accused me for nothing.
04:32.8
He accused me for his friend.
04:34.8
He accused me for everything, ma'am.
04:37.5
John is saying that mayroong kang kinuha ng 200,000.
04:40.6
Yes, that is my friend, mom.
04:43.1
And the one is not considered his money because the one is belong to someone that I friend in TikTok for 2021.
04:51.2
And you know, I don't tell you that.
04:53.2
Because it's a...
04:54.4
That's not yours.
04:55.8
And then why you, I told you to, I said that I need to explain to you, but you squeeze my hand.
05:06.3
But the police come, it's late already.
05:08.3
John, we have on video that you actually pushed Christine.
05:13.3
This was in the ferry boat, if I'm not mistaken.
05:16.3
And you even spit on her.
05:19.1
He always do that, mom.
05:21.1
I need to hold her away.
05:24.2
I cannot stop you.
05:25.6
You hold my leg and you push me and you know I'm pregnant, right?
05:28.8
Yes, very careful of you.
05:30.8
That's why you said, I walk.
05:32.8
I need to walk because I'm alone in Siquijor.
05:36.8
I need to go to the hotel alone and someone helping me.
05:40.8
Saan na magitan ang polis ng Siquijor nung nag, bago kayo umalis?
05:45.8
Hindi po, dumating yung polis mga ano na po, mga five na po yun.
05:51.2
Pero grabe na yung fight namin.
05:53.2
Sinabi ko na po yun sa landlord doon na, ma'am, tulungan niyo naman po ako.
05:58.2
Captain Eddie, magandang hapon po.
06:01.2
Yes, attorney. Magandang hapon, attorney.
06:03.2
Magandang hapon po.
06:04.2
Sir, in your investigation, what exactly happened and what were your findings?
06:08.2
Yes, attorney. As claimed by Ms. Christine,
06:12.2
nandito daw siya, attorney, she was mauled by the Pari National.
06:17.2
But that is beyond our personal knowledge.
06:19.2
Kasi nung pumunta yung mga polis natin doon,
06:22.2
hindi na nila nakita.
06:24.2
Only argumentation na lang kasi may pinag-ano sila na gustong alis daw niya ni Christine
06:31.2
kasi pupunta daw siya ng Manila.
06:33.2
Tapos nag-demand siya ng pera sa foreigner.
06:37.2
Tapos pinawagan ko din niya na, attorney, kasi tagal nang mga polis ko doon.
06:41.2
Pumunta sila between 4.30 to 5 o'clock.
06:45.2
Tapos hindi pa sila nakabalik nung 7.
06:48.2
So more than two hours na sila doon.
06:50.2
Kaya tinawagan ko kung bakit, anong nangyari.
06:53.2
Pati hindi sila nakapag-ano pa.
06:55.2
Kasi yung foreigner naman hindi na magbigay ng pera kay Christine.
06:59.2
What happened next ma'am, I told them to go to the barangay to have an agreement
07:05.2
para wala nang future ng mga cases pa kasi mag-ariglo man sila.
07:10.2
However, when they were already at the barangay, of course the barangay captain will ask for the identity of them.
07:19.2
The problem with the complainant, ma'am, did not give any identification.
07:25.2
So that is why the barangay captain did not make any agreement at all.
07:31.2
However, deliberately she told and agreed that the foreigner will give her money.
07:38.2
I don't know the exact amount of the money but when our police officer took them to secure, ma'am,
07:47.2
secure the next municipality of Pamlarena.
07:50.2
And then there, the foreign national withdraw money from the land bank and give it to the complainant, ma'am.
07:58.2
Okay. So Captain Eddie, there was actually no case filed. Christine did not file any case against the foreign national.
08:07.2
Yes, ma'am. I was there. My investigator was there to mediate.
08:10.2
And I told Christine, if she want to file a case, then she have to surface the case.
08:15.2
Then she have to surface at the station.
08:19.2
For investigation.
08:21.2
And further to have medical examination because she told me that she was mauled.
08:26.2
Okay. Do we have, Christine, did you do a medical legal report?
08:33.2
From Siquijor, ma'am.
08:34.2
Where are you now, Jan?
08:36.2
I am in Bantayan, ma'am.
08:37.2
Okay. You are in Bantayan. When was the last time that you spoke to Christine, Jan? Aside from today?
08:45.2
We speak all the time.
08:46.2
He blocked me for two days, ma'am.
08:48.2
He blocked you for two days?
08:49.2
Yes. Yesterday, I said, oh my God, you unblocked me. He said goodbye to me and he said, I cannot do anything now. So we say, I cannot see you anymore.
09:00.2
Okay. Jan, are you questioning?
09:02.2
I will not block because we have not been my baby. I will not block.
09:06.2
Okay. Jan, are you questioning the paternity of the child? Would you like to have a DNA test? Are you questioning the paternity?
09:13.2
Or are you accepting that the child is unblocked?
09:14.2
I am accepting that the child that Christine is carrying is yours.
09:17.2
I do want the DNA.
09:19.2
Christine, do you want it?
09:21.2
You are pregnant.
09:22.2
Ma'am Dana, good afternoon to you, ma'am.
09:24.2
Yes, good afternoon.
09:25.2
Good afternoon, ma'am Dana. Ma'am Dana, can you walk through us? What is the process if there are physical abuse charges against a foreign national? They are not married, they have had a relationship, and the woman is pregnant.
09:39.2
Yes. Those are two separate cases, if ever.
09:42.2
She can go to court against the foreign national for the abuse that she experienced.
09:51.2
And there's going to be punitive action from the courts if it is proven that she was raped or aggravated by this individual.
10:01.2
In the case of his immigration records, the immigration will also check if he is here legally,
10:10.2
or if what he is doing is within the bounds of law.
10:15.2
If we find out that he is not here legally, or he has been a threat to the community, then that's when immigration can file a deportation case against him.
10:26.2
There are two endings to this story.
10:29.2
The first one is she could file a case against the individual in court, and the court could possibly sanction him if found guilty.
10:38.2
That would answer...
10:39.2
That would answer her issues on the alleged abuse that she experienced.
10:44.2
But if she decides that this individual, this foreign national, is a menace to society,
10:52.2
if she believes that, she can file an immigration case also against the foreign national.
10:58.2
She can file both cases actually at the same time.
11:00.2
At the same time? Okay.
11:01.2
Yes. The case can go to court, and her case in immigration can also go to court.
11:09.2
So, you heard that, Christina.
11:11.2
You have two options.
11:12.2
You can file a case at the court, or you can file a case directly at the Bureau of Immigration, or you can file a case at the same time.
11:18.2
If you file a case at the court, where do you live? Where is your residence?
11:21.2
For the moment, ma'am, I'm staying with my sister in Las Viñas.
11:26.2
So, maybe you can...
11:27.2
She's here because she's already a resident.
11:29.2
Christine, what do you really want to happen when you're together?
11:33.2
So, you don't have a relationship anymore, right?
11:38.2
And you no longer have a relationship with Christine, is that correct?
11:43.2
Yes, but she had my baby inside her tummy. What can I do?
11:46.2
Okay. So, you still acknowledge if the child is yours, then of course you will have to be supporting the child.
11:56.2
Yeah, but ma'am, I always complain about that for my allowance and everything needs for my medication.
12:03.2
But you know, ma'am, what happened, I need to beg every time.
12:07.2
You know, every time I need something, he said, I need the receipt, I need this one.
12:12.2
I say, every time I need something for myself, I need receipt.
12:16.2
How about if I go in the store and then, you know, you cannot pay without receipt, right?
12:23.2
So, that's why I tell him, well, you need make me supper like this.
12:28.2
Christine, I gave you 120,000 in January.
12:31.2
I'm not lying about that, John, but you need to, I don't need to beg you all the time.
12:36.2
How much have you given to Christine, John?
12:39.2
In January, 120,000.
12:41.2
I have it on remit list.
12:44.2
250,000, 300,000.
12:47.2
I go hospital, ma'am.
12:48.2
The time I was in the hospital.
12:50.2
Bakit ka na hospital?
12:51.2
Because I was, ano, I'm bleeding po.
12:54.2
And then because of him, he was in Sweden.
12:57.2
When did you first meet John?
12:59.2
In Kabadbaran po.
13:03.2
And you are now five months pregnant?
13:06.2
October, November, December, January, February.
13:11.2
But John is also questioning, ha?
13:14.2
Did you have any other boyfriend before John?
13:16.2
Did you have any boyfriend in between?
13:19.2
Who is this person who gave you money that you are friends with in TikTok?
13:22.2
This is my friend in TikTok that 2021, then I was live on him because I was live streaming
13:28.2
on TikTok so I can, you know...
13:32.2
Making money also because they have a gift.
13:34.2
Is this friend a foreigner?
13:36.2
Is this friend a foreigner also?
13:38.2
Why did he give you 200,000?
13:39.2
Because he just want to help me and the 100,000, ma'am, is a...
13:43.2
They asked me to go back to school because he's just...
13:47.2
But why would you accept money from somebody else when you already have a relationship?
13:50.2
No, I didn't know that he gonna send to me, ma'am, because it's suddenly he send me money
13:54.2
and said, why you need to give me money?
13:56.2
I want to help you.
13:58.2
It's not because of, ma'am, that's not my boyfriend.
14:01.2
I never meet him in my life but he get jealous for nothing.
14:06.2
That one was a fan.
14:07.2
That is a TikTok.
14:08.2
That is a TikTok.
14:09.2
I like to say that, you know, Christine, you know I love you but I am not stupid.
14:14.2
200,000, that's a boyfriend.
14:17.2
I think everyone understand that.
14:18.2
That's why I know we cannot be together now because you are not true to me but I will
14:23.2
take care of that baby if it's mine for 100%.
14:27.2
And you can go with that other man.
14:29.2
I don't care about that.
14:31.2
You don't love me anymore.
14:34.2
You can go with him.
14:36.2
But don't try to tell me that this is a friend.
14:39.2
No friend is that nice that they give you 200,000.
14:43.2
Same time, I give you 120.
14:46.2
You got 320,000 in January and then you complain to me you have no money.
14:51.2
Because you are obligation to risk my responsibility in the hospital.
14:58.2
Why I ask someone to pay for that?
15:03.2
Ma'am Dana, marami ba tayong nakukuha mga ganitong mga reklamo?
15:07.2
May mga nakukuha po tayong mga ganitong reklamo.
15:10.2
Mga domestic violence cases, foreign nationals involved in concerns within their families.
15:17.2
So we do receive a lot of complaints of similar nature.
15:21.2
Does the Bureau of Immigration conduct outside of the regular process parang a mediation of
15:26.2
sorts for them to talk?
15:28.2
Meron ba tayong ganitong wala?
15:30.2
It's not within our scope po.
15:33.2
Because what we look at is the individual, the foreign national himself, if the individual
15:37.2
po is violating immigration laws, is a threat to society, is being an undesirable alien or
15:46.2
is here illegally.
15:47.2
That's what we look at.
15:48.2
But with regards to domestic issues, it might be more of the jurisdiction of the local law
15:56.2
enforcement agency.
15:57.2
Yes, understood, ma'am.
15:58.2
Thank you very much, si Ma'am Dana.
16:00.2
Thank you rin kay Police Captain Edric Yarag because apparently there was no case filed
16:05.2
in Lorena so there is actually no report that we can get from them regarding that incident.
16:11.2
At best, they can just say that they responded to a call, to a plea for help.
16:17.2
Christine, what you have with you now is the video but it is a year old.
16:22.2
John is questioning the paternity.
16:25.2
I am also questioning the 200,000 that you received from another man.
16:29.2
Understandably, John is saying that, hey, I gave you 120,000 and we are boyfriend-girlfriend.
16:37.2
So, he is finding it difficult to believe.
16:40.2
But that still, John, I am saying that there is still no reason to lay a hand on any woman,
16:46.2
whether Filipina, Swedish or what not.
16:49.2
And even the spitting.
16:52.2
Spitting because that was really caught on camera.
16:54.2
So, we are leaving it up to Christine on the accordion.
17:00.2
So, then, you have a lot of action that you want to take.
17:03.2
Of course, Wanted sa Radyo will assist you but it will also give an opportunity for the alleged abuser, so to speak, to give his side.
17:14.2
John, do you have a new girlfriend already?
17:18.2
I am still hoping for Christine.
17:19.2
Oh, wait a minute now.
17:21.2
That is something new.
17:22.2
Christine, did you hear that?
17:24.2
No, I don't hear that.
17:26.2
No, I don't hear that.
17:28.2
You're not crazy.
17:30.9
Take that back to me.
17:32.5
That video was taken last year.
17:34.1
You were not pregnant yet.
17:35.0
I'm pregnant already, ma'am.
17:36.3
I showed to him the pregnancy test, ma'am.
17:38.8
But he just ignored me.
17:40.6
He said, okay, fine.
17:42.4
So, but I take another pregnancy test
17:44.8
and then he was in Sweden already.
17:47.1
Then he said, oh my God.
17:48.4
Okay, I need to come back to Philippines
17:49.8
because I need to take care of you.
17:51.7
But it's not true, ma'am.
17:53.0
He came for drinking
17:54.7
and go to Siquijor
17:56.1
and have a party every night.
17:58.4
Jan, do you have a family back in Sweden?
18:02.3
Do you have children in Sweden?
18:04.8
Yeah, but they are big already.
18:07.1
I am old already.
18:08.4
How old are you, Jan?
18:10.5
I'm hoping she stop pregnant soon.
18:13.2
Once the baby born,
18:14.2
maybe she go back to be old Christine again
18:16.9
and not fighting all the time.
18:20.3
Samahan po namin kayo sa office po
18:21.8
ni Ms. Dina Sandoval po
18:23.0
para makapag-file po ng complaint.
18:27.8
Jan and Christine,
18:29.8
maybe you need to sit down and talk
18:31.6
and have somebody mediate
18:33.0
for what it's worth.
18:34.8
But with all of the complaints of Christine,
18:37.4
it will have to go through the proper process.
18:39.5
And Jan, you can be assured
18:41.0
that you will be given the opportunity
18:42.7
to explain yourself.
18:45.2
Yeah, but I want to go home to Sweden
18:46.9
because I need to fix my business there
18:49.2
and then I go back.
18:50.5
Okay, then we will be quick
18:52.7
about this complaint and the meeting.
18:56.1
So please don't put the phone,
18:58.4
so that our staff can coordinate with you.
19:01.6
Christine, kausapin ka sa paglabas mamaya.
19:05.4
And Ma'am Dina Sandoval,
19:07.4
magandang hapon po sa inyo.
19:08.7
Malamang po, sasamahan namin ito sila dyan sa inyo.
19:11.8
At kay Captain Eddie rin.
19:13.8
Yes, I need just only for your responsibility, Jan.
19:18.3
You know, I cannot do anything now.
19:20.5
I don't have any men.
19:21.8
And you know that.
19:22.7
I know from the beginning I love you,
19:25.0
but every time you hate me,
19:30.1
I don't see it like that.
19:31.1
I see it like we fight.
19:32.8
No, we don't fight, Jan.
19:34.1
You make a fight for me.
19:35.8
You don't need to be lie now
19:37.3
because this is the real, you know.
19:40.0
You're gonna lose teeth
19:42.5
plump, plump, plump.
19:43.6
You're gonna fall down.
19:45.9
Christine, we fight.
19:48.0
And you are very, very strong.
19:49.9
You know, you bite me and you hit me
19:52.0
many, many times.
19:53.2
But I need to hold your hands.
19:54.9
I need to defend because
19:56.5
you are so aggressive.
19:57.4
That's it, especially now when you're pregnant.
20:01.2
And you never stop.
20:02.3
Three hours, four hours.
20:04.5
So I hope we can get to the bottom of this.
20:08.1
Shari, off-air, we will arrange.
20:12.8
Thank you very much, Mr. John Ulrich Isaacson.
20:16.7
Thank you very much.
20:17.8
Thank you, Ulrich.
20:27.4
Bye bye, everyone.