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Actually, if I knew that I will talk with you, I would not come here.

I came here asking for help from them to acknowledge me as a father of my daughter.

I don't want to listen to any things. If you want to talk, talk to them, not to me.

I don't care about you. I will not settle anything about you.

You don't mean anything to me.

What I need is my daughter.

Mr. Bachar?

You can call me Bash.

Mr. Bash, I understand that you have a child with a Filipino.

Two years.

Two years old.

She's a girl.

But currently, you are not recognized legally as the father of your daughter.

This is what I'm here for, to ask help to be able to mention as her father in her birth certificate and have visitation right.

Okay, so when was the last time that you spoke with Anne regarding this one?

We messaged each other two days ago.

I already saw my daughter maybe three days ago.

But are you still in a relationship with each other?

No, no, no. We are not in a relationship.

So you go back here in the Philippines every once in a while to visit?

Yeah, this is my second time.

Okay, how long are you staying here?

I'm gonna stay maybe one month.

You have tried to reach out with Anne for this?

Yeah, I already saw my daughter two times.

Okay.

She allowed me to see her.

You opened up the topic again of you being the...

All the time, I'm opening the topic. All the time.

This is my only concern.

What does she say?

She don't want you.

Okay, but you support your daughter?

Of course.

Okay.

Anne, good afternoon.

Good afternoon po.

Miss Anne, si Bash nandito sa studio natin ano?

Ako.

Actually, he's always been the father for my daughter.

And I never hide my daughter to him unless he's doing something that it's unacceptable.

By example, this time, he came back to the Philippines.

And then last, if I'm not mistaken, Thursday.

And then he told me two days before that.

And then I told him, you are most welcome.

And you can come here and you can see your daughter.

I told him like this.

And then I accepted him.

And then we even went outside.

I accompanied him and my daughter to roam around my daughter.

And then after that, what happened?

We went to S.M. Pampanga.

And then after that, I'm trying to put my daughter asleep.

And then my daughter doesn't want because she's around.

Then he said, if he can take out my daughter for a ride like this.

I said, okay.

And then that time, we have actually our house is back side of the old house.

So, technically, we have a pathway.

And then one of the tricycle of my uncle is like, he cannot pass by because of the tricycle.

And then what he did, he shouted on my uncle.

He's saying that next time, don't let anybody pass and so and so.

Like this.

I have messaged him that please, if next time, if you have problem with my family, if you don't like something,

if you don't, if you hate something, don't, if you are angry, talk to me.

So, I will talk to my family.

And I will, I am.

The one who will tell them what's the problem.

The issue here is, what's keeping you from having Sir Bash as the legal father of your daughter?

Okay, attorney.

First and foremost, when I found out that I am pregnant, he is asking me to abort the baby.

Okay?

True.

I have my reasons why I asked for abortion immediately.

I'm not going to talk about it now.

But mostly, it's about not trusting any word that she's saying.

Okay.

That's why I.

First reaction was abortion.

When she said no, I went along with it.

I supported her from the time she conceived my baby till now.

And I will always support my girl.

I love her more than my life.

Actually, actually, attorney, we've been together for a long time.

Very long time.

Okay.

Then, he's telling me a lot of stories that he had a wife before and he got divorced.

And then, the wife got multiple pregnants.

But he's asking for abortion.

Not only from me, but from the.

People or the previous relationship that we had, he asked for abortion.

So, in his mentality, he don't want a child.

If I don't want a child, what I'm doing here?

I try all my ways to get to see my daughter.

Anyway, this is all doesn't matter.

What matter?

Is she my daughter?

And if yes, I want to be recognized as her father legally.

They are asking what is preventing.

All your reason is.

Irrelevant about the fact that I am her father or not.

I got pregnant in UAE way back then.

And then, I came back to Philippines to deliver because I cannot deliver there because we are not married.

I landed to Davao because I didn't have vaccine and that's the only port that is available because it's during pandemic.

Then, when I landed there, the first thing I found out that he had a girl the same day I left UAE.

So, that time, I know that it's not good.

I took it.

I got hurt.

But you cannot avoid being hurt, especially when you are pregnant.

That time, I cried and I had to go to emergency room.

The OWA staff brought me to public hospital because they are not sure if I am positive or negative through the COVID.

Then, after that, my mother called him.

What's happening?

And then, he called me.

What he said?

I wish you die.

I wish you die.

I wish you die.

While his daughter is inside my stomach.

That time.

I was six months pregnant and he knew.

In all this, would you say that Bash doesn't love or care for your daughter?

When the child is still not outside of this world, I may say that he doesn't.

Because I asked him multiple times that don't smoke around me because your daughter may...

Take it.

Because it's secondhand smoke.

But he never listened to me.

This is bullsh**.

What is the main reason you think that's keeping you from having Bash acknowledge as the father?

This is another reason for me, sir.

Before, when he told me that he wants an abortion, I told him,

No, I will raise this if you don't want it.

And he said, No, if you will keep having the baby, I will take it from you.

He said like this, I will take it from you if you don't want to stay with me.

Just go and I will keep the baby.

I will not give you my daughter.

This is what he told me clearly.

Okay, Anne.

So your concern here is that if your daughter becomes acknowledged as the daughter of Bash,

you fear that Bash will take your daughter from you?

Am I correct?

Yes. One of the main reasons.

I was thinking of that.

It may be one of the main reasons why you are hesitant to have Bash acknowledged as the father.

But I think all in all...

Your daughter will benefit.

It will be for the best welfare of your daughter if Bash will be acknowledged as the father legally.

At the very least, your daughter could enforce support on her father, Bash.

And maybe Bash could enjoy some form of visitation rights which would be better

or which would be best for the development of the child.

Am I correct?

Actually, sir, I never stopped.

Last time, September, he was here.

I let him.

I even...

I let him stay here for the last week that...

For the last week, he stayed here in her house.

I let him.

I let him...

I never stopped him seeing his daughter.

And second, second of all, he always threatened me, sir.

I have proof that 2022, he sent me a message,

I will kill you.

I will send someone to kill you.

You will just be surprised.

Your head will only cost 50,000 pesos.

This is what he...

This is bulls**t.

Again, sir.

I have proof, sir.

I have proof.

You cannot say that this is bulls**t.

I have proof.

I'm gonna not let you talk about lies anymore.

I heard enough of lies.

All of this doesn't really matter about the fact that I am her father

and I have the right to be recognized as her father.

All your stories, I don't care about your stories and doesn't matter to me anymore.

Your manipulation lies, I cannot hear it anymore.

All what I want, my daughter to be named after me and I have visitation rights for her.

I allowed you to visit her, but...

It's not up to you to allow me.

This is my right.

It's not up to you to allow me.

It's not you allow me.

Maybe, Ms. Anne...

Someday you don't allow me.

This is my right.

Maybe, Ms. Anne, we could come to a common terms

wherein it would be acceptable for both of you

so that Mr. Bash could have his way with being registered,

acknowledged as the father of your daughter.

Is there a possibility of that happening?

I told him.

He mentioned to your staff,

before that he proposed to me.

That's true.

That's true and I will not deny it.

But...

Anne, Anne, Anne, that's irrelevant for this one.

We're just talking about your daughter.

When I told him, when I told him I'm ready to be cool for, or to fix everything.

Actually, I have messages to him.

Let's not fight, let's not fight, let's not fight, at least when you are here.

But it cannot be happen, sir.

I don't want my daughter that every time that we are together,

my daughter will see that,

and he is angry, he is shouting, he is cursing me.

We are fighting in front of my daughter.

My daughter now is two years old.

She understands things already.

I don't want her that she is seeing us fighting all the time.

I don't want her to witness that.

Ms. Anne, we're not talking about your relationship with Bash.

We're just talking about the co-parenting arrangement.

That would be the best for your daughter, I think.

I understand, sir.

But what I am saying, all I'm asking from him,

first, he should learn how to respect me,

First, he should learn how to respect me,

First, he should learn how to respect me,

when I am around, of his daughter, sorry.

And second of all, he should respect people around

when he is around people.

Because clearly, if he is mad with something,

even with the daughter, he doesn't care.

He doesn't care.

He will shout, he will curse, he will fight.

So what do you want to happen, or what do you want Bash to do

so that you may be satisfied that he has learned his lesson

or he has learned to respect you?

Mr. Pastor, I have asked him to,

to check for his anger management problem, really.

This is what I'm asking from him.

He should learn how to manage his anger,

especially in front of my daughter.

If he takes anger management classes,

you would be willing to have him acknowledged

as the father of your daughter?

For the acknowledgement, sir, that's not in my,

I couldn't, I couldn't say yes right now, sir.

I couldn't say it right now until I see it.

I, until I prove that he has changed.

This is not your role. This is not your role.

This is not your right, dear. This is not your right.

You are, you are taking decisions that is not yours.

This is also my daughter's decision.

I'm asking you, why now?

When I give birth, why you didn't go home?

Why you didn't go home?

I didn't go home because you didn't tell me

that I need to be here so for you to name me as a father.

You told me after this, after you get born

and you went to the UAE.

No, I told you.

Again, I will not go on and on

with your lies and manipulations.

I am, I actually, I, if I, if I knew that,

I will talk with you, I would not come here.

I came here asking for help from them

to acknowledge me as a father of my daughter.

I don't want to listen to any things.

If you want to talk, talk to them, not to me.

That's the thing.

Your, your, your, your lies and manipulation will never end.

We need to settle things between me and you.

I don't care about you.

I will not settle anything about you.

You don't mean anything to me.

What I need is my daughter.

Okay.

That's not, are you here?

We're trying to find common ground for the both of you.

We're trying to fix this.

How to find common ground?

If she's, keep lying.

Ms. Anne, I think, personally,

your request for him to take anger management,

is it for you to continue having a relationship with him?

No, sir. No, sir.

But I, last time, for example,

he choked me in front of my daughter.

Just imagine my daughter will grow into this kind of situation.

That my daughter will leave, that it's okay.

It's okay that I'm, my mother is being hurt.

My mother is, in the future, if she will have husband,

she will say,

Oh, it's okay.

It hurt me.

It's okay.

I don't mind it.

Ms. Anne, if you are being physically hurt by Bash,

as you claim,

you could always file a case against him so that...

I filed, I called the police in UAE, sir.

I filed a case in UAE.

That means that when my daughter is around him,

he will not be behavioral, you know,

because usually he is angry.

Last time we were in the mall,

salesman is offering him a sparkle.

Usually, hi sir, hi mom.

Ms. Anne, you're saying at the end of the day,

if he takes a anger management class

and he, you see signs of development in him,

you would be willing to have,

to let him be acknowledged as the father of your daughter?

From my side, sir, I couldn't say yes right now

until I proved so.

Until I proved so that I'm seeing a change with him,

I cannot say anything right now.

I cannot decide.

I cannot decide.

It's not your decision to take.

Actually.

This is my daughter's decision and my decisions.

Actually, under the law,

you could execute an affidavit acknowledging paternity.

However, so that the proceedings do not become adversarial,

it is always best to get the consent of the mother

because they could object if they do not consent

with the instrument that you are claiming

to be the father of the child.

You could have been told that.

That is why I am trying my best really

so that the two of you could come to terms.

We will never come to terms.

If that is what you think, sir,

this negotiation will already fail.

That is why I've been trying to have you talk.

I'm trying to find common grounds.

Are you saying that if she say no,

that I don't have the right to?

You could, but it would take longer

because they could contest it.

They could contest your affidavit.

That is why I am trying my best here

to have you come to terms, okay?

But as to the documents,

we could help you with that.

You could submit.

But definitely, they could and they would object.

That is what I think.

That is why prior to us filing the documents,

I think it is better if we could iron it out

as early as now

so that the parties will jointly file

or will jointly agree that you are indeed the father

and that the records will reflect

that you are indeed the father of your daughter, okay?

But I think in this case,

well, we can crush.

And right now,

so maybe as help to you,

we could help you draft the documents

and file it.

But of course,

it is subject to their objections, okay?

We would file that with the local civil registry

where your daughter was born

or where her birth certificate is currently registered.

I think it's in Calumpit.

Calumpit.

Okay.

But of course,

their side will be heard in all this

before it will be approved.

Not sure if I understood this already.

So the fact that she will approve or not approve

will change my daughter's DNA?

Will alternate my daughter's DNA?

Well, we might be required.

There might be an instance.

No, no, no.

You are not getting...

I get your point.

On the scientific standpoint,

you are the father.

So I am father no matter what she thinks about?

Yes, but we are talking about the legal standpoint.

As it is, sir,

you have no relation to your daughter,

legally speaking,

because you do not appear in the birth certificate of the child.

So that's what I am discussing here, okay?

So that's what we want to remedy.

So your options here are

for you to file your affidavit of paternity,

acknowledging paternity,

but of course,

because there is an opposition,

it might take a while

and it might not be approved,

legally speaking, okay?

Okay?

So that is why,

maybe while we are doing this,

maybe you could also try to talk to them.

Ask Anne what she wants to happen here.

Maybe take the first steps with the anger management class.

Just so, just so.

All lies against.

Okay.

That's it.

I'm fed up with her.

In any case,

that's...

I just want to prove to my daughter in the future

that I asked for her so many times.

And let my daughter find me in the future.

Okay.

In any case, sir,

that's the legal recourse you have

and we are willing to help you in this one.

Thank you so much.

I appreciate it.

Okay.

But of course,

as I've said,

as a matter of caveat,

it might be objected to.

Maybe our staff will talk to you about the logistics

Thank you so much.

when we'll do it,

when we'll file, okay?

Thank you so much.

Sir, can I have a question?

If ever that he will threat

or say something threat again with me,

can I file a case against him in immigration?

Because still,

still I have the proof that he threat me,

that he will kill me and pay someone to kill me.

Is it possible for me to file a case against him?

That's a different issue,

but assuming it's true

and you have the evidence to back it up,

you have all the right to file.

Ma'am,

what you will do is,

we will just talk to you in the other studio,

Bash.

Okay, ma'am?

Okay.

But what you need, ma'am,

the most important thing here, ma'am,

is what is good for the child.

Okay.

What Sir just brought here is,

of course,

the custody or the visitation rights,

the name of the child,

that's what Sir brought here.

We are worried.

Talk to him properly.

Maybe, maybe.

Just tell me what you want.

Maybe Bash can comply.

Okay, thank you.

Okay, thank you.

Okay.

Thank you very much.