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BASTE: THE BIG "PLAN B" OF DUTERTES!???
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00:00.7
Okay guys, ito pag-usapan natin, is Baste plan B?
00:04.3
Because I think parang out of nowhere, si Baste is now in the conversation.
00:09.8
He criticized Aimee Marcos, he criticized BBM, right?
00:15.0
Siya yung essentially parang side-by-side with his father during the rallies,
00:19.1
both in Davao and also in Cebu.
00:21.4
So, I don't know, I mean, maybe for him it's spontaneous,
00:24.5
but it also looks like maybe this is part of a campaign in the build-up.
00:28.9
At anong basa mo dyan, Ronald? I'll start with you.
00:31.8
Well, mukhang hindi siya pang-local.
00:35.8
Palo, medyo absentee mayor siya. Maraming reklamo sa kanya, Ron.
00:39.4
Hindi siya dumadalo ng maraming mga meetings at mga sessions.
00:43.2
Kaya baka pwede siya sa national.
00:45.6
Yung kanyang asta, yung kanyang disruptive behavior, yung kanyang rhetorics,
00:51.4
baka mas malapit pa nga siya kay Digong kesa kay Sara.
00:54.3
Si Sara hindi ganun kakwal. Ka-articulate minsan.
00:58.9
Kaya baka, lalo na, may itsura naman siya.
01:03.0
Artistahin din siya, katulad ni Richard Hedaria.
01:05.5
Lalaki eh. Let's be honest, patriarcal society natin.
01:09.3
Kaya pwede siya dyan. Tapos ang mahalaga, yung kanyang apelido.
01:13.0
In a way, parang siya yung Tulpo Brothers eh.
01:15.9
Kahit sinong Tulpo, pag tumakbo kayo, baka manalo eh.
01:19.0
Si Ben Tulpo, number five. Si Erwin Tulpo, number one.
01:23.5
Siya yung Ben Tulpo din, no?
01:25.4
So habang nandyan yung Duterte,
01:28.9
yung franchise, gamitin na nila.
01:31.5
Dahil baka mawala yan soon eh.
01:33.5
So gamitin na nila habang nandyan pa,
01:35.5
at least for the midterm, no?
01:37.4
Yun yung, kung sakaling dalawang Duterte ang tatakbo,
01:41.0
baka manalo pa eh.
01:42.3
No? Baka manalo pa.
01:43.2
I think almost certain eh.
01:44.7
Ang tanong, si Pulong rin ba tatakbo?
01:46.7
Kasi si Pulong...
01:47.1
Mas maraming negative kay Pulong eh.
01:50.4
Sino may iwan sa Dagaw?
01:52.2
Oo. Tsaka walang may iwan sa Dagaw.
01:53.8
Lalo na, pinahamon na naman sila ng Nograles.
01:56.6
Nograles.
01:57.2
Oo. So, kailangan may maiiwan.
01:58.9
Di ako magugulat kung halimawa yung sinasabi ni Sara
02:02.3
na siya ay tatakbo sa midterm.
02:04.5
Hindi ako magugulat kung babalik siya ron, no?
02:07.1
That's not a huge possibility.
02:11.0
Wait, like Sara will give up this vice presidency?
02:13.9
Yes.
02:14.9
Wow, that's crazy.
02:16.8
May kanyang possibility, ha?
02:18.0
Wow, that's crazy.
02:19.2
Pinag-aaralan niya, na?
02:20.9
Dati, ang tingin ko dyan ay joke only.
02:23.9
Pero ngayon, tinitignan ko na may gano'ng possibility.
02:26.6
Not yet that big possibility.
02:28.9
Pero it's a distinct possibility.
02:30.8
But what would trigger that?
02:32.4
Kasi you mentioned the Nograles.
02:33.9
Anger with the speaker.
02:35.8
No, and, I mean, are Nograles is really a force to reckon with right now?
02:39.9
Kasi, Ronald, I remember very well.
02:41.8
Not yet.
02:42.2
Not yet.
02:42.7
Davao people saying na kung hindi nanalo daw si Digong in 2016,
02:46.3
a number of Davao analysts were saying na
02:47.8
lagot sila sa Davao mismo.
02:49.5
In a sense that Duterta had to create a beachhead
02:52.2
at the national level
02:53.7
so that they protect their rear in Davao.
02:55.9
I mean, that's my understanding in 2015-16.
02:58.9
Not yet.
02:60.0
Not yet.
03:00.4
Now, like, what is your understanding of Davao politics
03:02.5
in terms of their...
03:03.4
Pero, ang kumampanya por firma
03:06.0
dun sa mga districts sa Davao
03:08.2
are the Nograles.
03:09.3
And they were able to get the minimum of 3% or more.
03:12.9
No?
03:13.5
Kaya sampal yan sa mga Duterte.
03:15.6
Dahil kung napigilan nila yung 3% sa isang distrito,
03:18.9
tapos na yung people's initiative.
03:21.6
Pero mukhang sa lahat ng Davao district,
03:23.7
mukhang nakuha yung minimum for...
03:26.6
At ang kumuha niyan, yung mga Nograles.
03:28.9
So, hindi naman sila ganun ka-push over.
03:31.8
I doubt kung nasa level sila ng mga Duterte sa Davao.
03:36.2
Pero, ibig sabihin,
03:37.4
they are a thorn on their side,
03:40.3
ng mga Duterte.
03:41.2
Kaya dapat siguraduhin nila
03:43.4
na malakas pa rin
03:44.8
sa kanilang bailiwick.
03:47.3
Pero, yung baste
03:49.2
ay not far off the mark.
03:52.5
Yan ay posible.
03:54.4
I mean,
03:54.8
hindi na nila lahat ng mga Duterte
03:56.6
para sila ay hindi masinig.
03:58.9
Pero, hindi na nila lahat ng mga Duterte.
03:59.9
Dahil, naubos na yung PDP laban eh.
04:02.3
Naubos na yung PDP laban eh.
04:04.0
Mismo yung presidente ng PDP laban,
04:06.1
si Pepito Alvarez,
04:07.5
ay defending the speaker.
04:10.8
Diba?
04:11.6
Tapos, yung isang PDP laban sa Senate,
04:15.6
mukhang paalis na dun sa Duterte camp.
04:18.4
So, kailangan nilang something to consolidate
04:21.3
that brand eh.
04:23.6
Something to consolidate their name.
04:26.3
At para gawin yan,
04:28.2
dagdagan nila yung mga Duterte sa Senate.
04:31.6
Ang isang factor din, Richard,
04:33.9
Sir Ronald,
04:34.5
dun sa Nograles sa Davao,
04:37.7
yung babae, si Atty. Migs eh,
04:39.4
yung TikToker na si Atty. Migs,
04:41.7
yung PBA party list,
04:43.7
is yung admin support eh.
04:45.8
Admin support.
04:47.2
Kung ikaw yung sa Malacanang,
04:48.7
pinatawag kayo ng mga Duterte
04:51.0
ng lahat ng mga name-calling
04:52.9
and lahat ng ano.
04:53.7
How do you hurt Duterte the most?
04:55.8
By taking away, di ba?
04:58.2
Bubuhusan niyo yung kalaban.
04:59.8
Bubuhusan mo yung kalaban.
05:01.5
So, yun eh.
05:02.4
Yun ang pinag-aadaan ng mga Duterte eh.
05:05.3
It would be a tough fight
05:07.3
because for sure,
05:09.0
kung meron mang pondo na ibubuhos yung mga,
05:12.0
yung admin para sa local,
05:14.3
number one on their list is dethroning the Duterte sa Davao.
05:18.2
Pag naupo si Nograles sa Davao,
05:20.2
lalabas lahat ng mga issues against them
05:24.0
which they will need para sa 2028
05:27.2
kung kakalabanin nila.
05:28.2
So, yun ay ang pinag-aadaan ni Inday.
05:30.3
So, dun papasok yung posibleng pagbalik ni Inday sa Davao
05:34.7
to defend the city.
05:36.7
Kasi kung si Bastet lang yung kalaban ni Migs,
05:39.9
bago lang si Bastet,
05:40.8
and yun na nga, yung mga reklamo kay Bastet.
05:43.0
Kung si Digong,
05:44.9
masyadong matanda na siguro si tatay Digong
05:47.9
to yung ganung mayoralty race
05:50.3
na kailangan mong magsulong-sulong sa mga sulok-sulok,
05:52.9
mga barabaranggay.
05:54.1
So, kung si Sarah ang lumaban dito kay Migs,
05:57.2
di ba?
05:57.9
Iba yung Sara eh. Iba yung
05:59.5
Sara pag tumakbo dyan
06:01.3
sa Davao eh. So I think yun
06:03.6
yung isang
06:05.2
kailangan tignan din eh.
06:07.5
Kung bakit ganito yung possibility.
06:10.2
Si Baste, yun nga,
06:11.9
for Sena Torte,
06:13.4
yung mga vloggers na na, binibuild up na din
06:15.2
si Baste. And I always say this,
06:17.4
kapag pakinggan mo magsalita
06:19.2
si Baste, takpan mo yung mata mo,
06:21.6
parang nagsasalita din si
06:23.1
Digong.
06:25.4
They have the same mannerisms.
06:26.7
Young Morty Soy version ni Digong.
06:29.1
Pero kahit sa boses,
06:31.5
magkaboses sila eh.
06:33.2
Yung mannerisms, how they talk,
06:35.1
even yung mura nila.
06:36.8
Yung mura nila is pareho eh.
06:39.4
Ito, may itsura.
06:41.0
Diba? So,
06:42.8
bata, may itsura.
06:44.4
Bakit? May itsura din naman si Digong ah.
06:47.2
Ay, mukha naman.
06:47.8
Medyo may edad na si Digong.
06:50.3
Baka nung bata siya, baka ganun din.
06:52.4
Wow, ageist ka ngayon, Mark.
06:54.1
Huwag naman ganun.
06:56.7
I mean, okay, just to end on this episode,
06:58.8
I mean, Ronald and Mark,
07:00.4
I'll start first with Ronald.
07:01.7
I mean, could there be a situation of
07:03.3
the Dutertes overstretching themselves
07:05.4
in a dangerous way, right?
07:07.1
Like, they go all in,
07:08.6
let's go all run for Senate,
07:10.7
yung isa's run for Davao,
07:12.0
and then, dudurugin sila ng kapila
07:14.1
by supporting the Nogral.
07:15.9
I mean, it could get crazy, right?
07:17.8
And then, ICC comes in,
07:19.4
like, my goodness, I mean,
07:20.7
machek niya.
07:22.3
Like, kibuloy, survival fight na ito eh.
07:25.0
Like, kibuloy, existential,
07:26.7
na yung issue rito.
07:28.4
So, kailangan nilang itataya lahat ng pato.
07:30.9
In the immediate, ha,
07:32.5
hindi ito slow burn, quick burn to eh.
07:34.9
Either ma-wipe out sila
07:36.7
in so short a time,
07:38.3
or mag-survive sila.
07:40.0
So, itataya na nila lahat.
07:41.9
They're backs on the wall.
07:44.2
At sabi nga ni Mark kanina,
07:46.5
itong mga intricacies
07:49.3
ng mga tumbling-tumbling
07:51.3
ni Digong could be part
07:52.9
ng isang strategy.
07:54.7
Sabi mo nga, Big R,
07:56.7
pwedeng merong method
07:58.5
yung madness, di ba?
08:00.5
Na baka tayo ay tayo.
08:03.2
Pero minsan, madness lang talaga.
08:05.6
Hindi minsan, malaking bahagi.
08:08.1
Madness lang talaga.
08:09.5
Pero sa politika naman,
08:11.2
may element ng tsambahan eh.
08:13.7
Malay mo, makatsamba.
08:15.2
Di ba?
08:16.2
O, makatsamba ulit.
08:18.1
Ang feeling ng mga
08:19.3
sa Duterte Camp eh,
08:20.8
lahat ng mga supporters nila,
08:22.1
mga vloggers nila,
08:23.3
we just have to survive
08:24.6
from now hanggang 2020.
08:26.7
Yung lang eh.
08:28.6
Mag-survive tayo,
08:29.9
kaya nang lampasuhin ni Sarah yan.
08:31.9
Yun ang kanilang mindset din.
08:33.4
So, yun ang kanilang ginagawa eh.
08:36.0
Kaso, yun nga,
08:37.2
ang bilis eh.
08:38.1
What if they lose Davao?
08:39.3
What if pumasok yung ICC?
08:41.1
What if ma-wipe out sila lahat?
08:43.1
Pero definitely,
08:44.3
baste in the Senate is a
08:45.8
talagang possibility talaga.
08:49.1
Malaking possibility talaga.
08:50.5
Kasi, like yung sa atin eh,
08:52.7
yung affinity for a candidate,
08:55.7
napapasa sa
08:56.6
anak eh.
08:58.1
We see that eh.
08:59.8
Marcos to Marcos.
09:00.6
Or kapatid.
09:01.4
Or kapatid.
09:02.5
Cool for brothers.
09:03.9
Cool for brothers.
09:05.4
Diba?
09:05.9
Even,
09:06.4
Robredo,
09:07.9
to her daughters.
09:10.2
Merong dala-dala ka agad eh.
09:12.5
So, yun naman.
09:13.6
Yun naman ang ano.
09:14.7
Yun naman ang
09:15.2
strategy ng BBM.
09:17.5
Big R,
09:18.0
doon sa previous episode natin,
09:20.1
na
09:20.4
alam nung mga
09:23.1
kamag-anak
09:24.8
ni BBM,
09:26.1
alam nung mga kamag-anak ni BBM,
09:26.6
alam nung kanyang mga
09:27.7
political core group,
09:29.7
na kung mag-survive ang Duterte
09:32.2
beyond the midterms,
09:33.7
yari sila.
09:35.2
Yung successor ng mga Marcoses,
09:37.9
wala na yan.
09:39.2
At hindi lang yan,
09:40.3
gagantihan sila.
09:41.3
Especially Tamba Luzlos.
09:43.0
Especially the first lady.
09:45.6
So,
09:46.6
papayagan mo ba
09:47.4
na yung asawa mo
09:48.3
ay durugin?
09:49.8
Yung pinsan mo
09:50.7
na main political operator mo
09:52.7
at baka campaign manager mo
09:54.3
sa midterms,
09:55.5
gagantihan?
09:56.6
Tapos yung future
09:57.5
ng iyong anak
09:58.3
mawawala
09:58.9
as the possible
10:01.5
head of state
10:02.2
ng Pilipinas?
10:03.3
So, maraming at stake
10:04.4
sa mga
10:04.9
Marcos
10:06.1
dito.
10:07.7
Hindi na to
10:08.2
usapin ng unity.
10:09.3
Usapin na to
10:10.0
ng kanila namang
10:11.6
political survival
10:12.8
as Marcoses.
10:16.0
Nakabalik na nga sila
10:17.2
tapos hindi masusustain.
10:19.1
Kaya,
10:19.8
yun yung at stake
10:20.6
dito.
10:22.0
Big R.
10:22.9
Na talagang
10:23.9
kailangan meron silang gawin
10:28.1
para mawawala
10:29.4
yung threat na yan
10:30.4
before the midterm.
10:32.2
At sa ngayon,
10:32.9
dalawa yung
10:34.1
kanilang
10:34.7
weapon
10:36.4
na pwedeng gamitin.
10:37.6
One is cha-cha.
10:39.3
Cha-cha.
10:40.3
Which is
10:40.9
for now,
10:41.6
uphill.
10:43.0
At ikalawa
10:43.8
ay
10:44.5
the ICC.
10:46.9
Yung yung
10:47.3
Timocles swords nila
10:48.9
in a way.
10:50.0
Yung dalawa lang.
10:51.2
Yung dalawa lang ngayon.
10:52.6
But those are big.
10:53.9
I mean, those are big one.
10:54.9
And I think that means
10:56.2
we have to have a short episode
10:57.4
on BBM himself.
10:58.7
I mean,
10:59.3
after all,
10:59.9
he's the president.
11:00.7
Just in case you forgot.
11:02.0
We talk about
11:02.6
Kim Boloy,
11:03.3
Maine Mendoza,
11:04.4
Richard Aldens.
11:05.9
Lahat pinag-usapan natin
11:06.9
except the president
11:07.8
of the republic.
11:09.4
Syempre naman,
11:09.9
kasi busy naman siya.
11:10.9
Bumalik na lang naman siya.
11:12.1
Papalik-balik lang naman siya
11:13.2
sa Australia.
11:14.0
Malapit lang naman.
11:14.9
Nandiyan lang naman daw.
11:15.7
Pwede naman balik.
11:16.6
In a few days.
11:17.3
Ibang klase.
11:18.1
Ibang klase ito.
11:19.2
Ibang klase ito.
11:20.3
Thank you guys.
11:20.9
This was fantastic.
11:21.8
I really enjoyed it.
11:23.1
And just to be clear,
11:24.4
we're not mind conditioning.
11:25.9
We're not normalizing
11:27.1
this weird situation
11:28.4
of turning even Senate
11:29.9
into a dynasty.
11:31.3
As former Senator Trillian
11:33.2
has correctly pointed out,
11:34.6
the very big possibility
11:35.7
of Duterte's
11:36.5
or at least one Duterte running
11:38.0
should be,
11:39.3
dapat ito ay isang hamon
11:40.3
sa opposition
11:40.9
na up their game
11:42.2
because things could get
11:43.2
very crazy
11:43.9
kung at least kahit isa
11:45.2
sa mga Duterte
11:45.9
ay makabalik sa Senado.
11:47.6
So, more hamon ito
11:49.0
sa opposition
11:50.0
kaysa mind conditioning
11:50.9
PGR, maraming nangyayari
11:53.6
sa Senate ngayon.
11:54.5
Inamin kanina ni Aimee
11:56.6
na there was a plan
11:58.9
to change the leadership
12:01.0
of the Senate.
12:02.5
Inamin na niya.
12:03.5
Although alam na natin yan,
12:04.8
alam na natin yan last week.
12:06.7
I think they were able
12:07.5
to get 10 Senators
12:10.0
dun sa kanilang effort na yan.
12:11.9
But three short.
12:13.7
Jingoy ba to?
12:14.7
Jingoy.
12:15.8
Oo.
12:16.1
So, big thing yan.
12:20.4
Nakakuha sila ng sampu.
12:22.7
So, tatlo na lang ang kulang.
12:25.1
They would be the next leaders.
12:27.2
At inamin ni Aimee kanina.
12:30.3
Inamin niya.
12:31.3
Okay.
12:31.8
Alam na,
12:32.2
six to midterm.
12:33.7
Yeah.
12:34.4
So, I think let's talk
12:35.4
in a short episode next.
12:36.7
Pag-usapan naman natin
12:37.7
yung presidente natin.
12:39.3
We're just walking around him
12:41.7
as if he's not there.
12:42.9
Alright.
12:43.0
Baka mamabash tayo
12:44.4
ng mga loyalist followers natin.
12:46.8
Thank you guys.
12:47.4
Maraming salamat.