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00:01.9
Penultimate na ito for now
00:04.2
More in the future
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Pag-asapan ba natin
00:08.7
But let's go to this
00:10.5
So there are two things
00:12.1
I want to discuss
00:16.5
Kiboloy because he's connected
00:18.5
And he represents many things
00:20.2
That we kind of touched on
00:24.3
Of a lot of business
00:26.1
Power of religion
00:27.4
And religious leaders
00:29.8
But the other one is also
00:31.9
The rise of Riza on Tiveras
00:39.5
Carrying the torch
00:41.1
And taking off the cudgels
00:44.1
Not only for victims
00:45.4
Of alleged criminals
00:48.4
I think really the
00:49.4
Opposition movement
00:50.5
In the Philippines
00:52.4
Sino pa pang asahan natin
00:54.1
So let's first talk about
00:55.2
Kiboloy before we go to Riza
00:56.4
Because I want to also
00:57.3
Get your point of view
00:57.9
What do you think about Riza
01:00.8
Of the opposition
01:03.1
2028 presidential
01:05.2
We're already talking about her
01:07.3
With people who are
01:08.0
In the political loop
01:09.8
So did you want me to talk about
01:15.3
What is your read of
01:17.0
This whole Kiboloy drama
01:21.7
Baka ma-assassinate siya
01:23.2
All of this stuff
01:25.0
The problem talaga
01:26.2
With when you have
01:28.8
Religious leaders
01:29.8
That are connected
01:35.5
That are above the law
01:37.1
They're above the law
01:39.0
Ang nakakagulat lang is
01:42.7
There's a big support
01:44.2
To be honest with you
01:45.1
Among the Filipino
01:46.7
I think most agree that
01:48.0
He needs to face the Senate
01:49.6
And I don't understand
01:51.1
His fear of facing the Senate
01:53.0
He's not going to jail
01:55.1
They just need him
01:56.3
In aid of legislation
01:58.8
Ano yung kinatatakutan niya
02:01.4
Say that he's being persecuted
02:03.3
And accused of being guilty
02:05.4
No, nobody's saying that
02:06.4
We're just saying
02:06.9
Can you please show up here
02:08.0
Because there are crimes
02:09.3
That have allegedly been committed
02:10.7
And we want to check
02:11.8
That are the laws
02:15.4
Do they need to be changed
02:17.5
To be able to protect
02:18.4
The rights of women
02:20.6
That's why I'm calling you here
02:22.2
Because may sinasabing
02:24.7
And we're trying to figure out
02:26.3
Where this problem lies
02:27.8
In the legislation
02:28.8
So you are now hindering
02:30.9
The aid of legislation
02:32.4
And by him acting
02:34.7
The way he's acting
02:35.6
That's the only reason
02:36.8
Why there's an arrest warrant
02:38.2
Because he was subpoenaed to go
02:40.4
And he didn't want to go
02:42.8
It's weird that he
02:45.5
He's being judged
02:55.6
Sagan ano ganito yan
02:58.2
The leaders we vote
03:00.5
The leaders we have
03:02.7
Of the type of mentality
03:04.3
The majority of us have
03:06.4
They reflect who we are
03:13.6
The Robin Padillas
03:16.5
It is a sad state
03:18.4
Of how we are as a nation
03:21.6
These discussions
03:22.7
Help improve that
03:25.4
The slow improvements
03:27.1
It just takes time
03:28.8
Kiboloys should just man up
03:31.3
And he's in hiding right now
03:33.3
He has an arrest warrant
03:38.6
With the extradition
03:41.0
Yeah that's very serious
03:42.8
Nagtatago na siya ngayon
03:44.4
But why is he hiding?
03:46.9
If I wasn't guilty
03:52.6
I don't know what to do with this guy
03:55.1
Alam mo ba nangyari
03:56.5
I just saw it right now
04:01.2
Duterte is the administrator
04:02.7
Of all his properties?
04:04.2
Yeah I just saw that now
04:05.6
Well this is just after
04:07.1
Duterte kind of threw him
04:10.6
Sa mga pro Kiboloys rally
04:11.9
Wala mga DDS bloggers
04:15.1
Our other good friends
04:17.8
What's going on there
04:19.4
Wala wala nang susupport daw
04:21.4
Si Harry Roque lang daw
04:22.7
We can talk about
04:24.4
For a very long time
04:29.1
Administrator and all of that
04:30.6
Ang nakitaon to it
04:31.8
Was from Senator De Lima
04:34.3
Confounded by like
04:37.8
Ganon ang reaction
04:40.1
Duterte is playing here
04:42.2
Duterte's statements
04:43.3
He didn't seem to be very
04:45.9
Magpa-arresto ka na lang
04:46.8
Wala naman mag-assassinate
04:49.0
Parang ganon yung sinabi niya
04:54.5
Between him and Duterte
04:57.9
We have to see more
04:58.9
More details on that
04:60.0
And what Duterte will say
05:01.1
But what about Riza?
05:03.0
What is your take on Riza?
05:04.4
Imagine what she's up against
05:05.9
There's Robin Utpadila
05:07.3
There's Aimee Marcos
05:08.7
There's Cynthia Villar
05:10.0
Maybe you wanna talk about
05:11.5
Still the richest family
05:13.4
In the country right?
05:14.4
Next to the C family
05:20.0
Nandun sa committee
05:22.6
Sa committee talaga
05:26.1
There could be three Tulfos
05:35.0
It's also a reflection of
05:36.1
Our current state
05:37.6
Of political consciousness
05:38.9
We used to have the
05:41.1
Type of people in Senate
05:42.2
Just to remind people
05:46.1
There's ups and downs
05:48.9
What's your take on Riza?
05:52.8
Riza really came out strong
06:01.1
That was so courageous
06:03.6
Minamando na niya
06:04.7
Lahat ng mga lalaki
06:08.8
And then Riza comes out there
06:10.7
I want you to answer
06:13.2
That was the first time
06:15.6
Refused to answer
06:17.3
Any of the questions
06:18.7
During the budget
06:23.9
Palagi yung gano'n
06:25.6
All Riza said was
06:27.7
Can you answer that question please?
06:30.6
Sumagot pa yung si
06:33.3
Sarah Duterte does not have to answer that
06:35.4
Parang some other senator
06:40.7
Constitutional mandate
06:42.0
What is your job?
06:44.2
To be able to protect
06:45.5
The budget of the country
06:47.2
By asking questions
06:49.7
Of that department
06:50.8
And you're preventing
06:52.8
A senator from asking that
06:54.0
Who are you defending?
06:55.5
It's the same with the Kiboloy issue
07:02.4
They're basically not
07:04.2
Doing their mandate
07:06.2
They're protecting Kiboloy
07:08.5
Against all the oppressed
07:10.3
Possible oppressed
07:11.4
To be able to help
07:12.6
Protect more people
07:13.7
They're hindering
07:16.3
That can protect more people
07:19.3
Kiboloy to go into
07:24.0
Sa dami ng mga kalaban niya
07:32.1
That takes a lot of balls
07:36.1
When a lot of the men there
07:39.1
A lot of the men there
07:40.1
I gave up on the men
07:42.2
Like ang dami mga babae
07:43.3
Dun sa committee na yan
07:44.3
At nasan sila ngayon
07:45.6
Yung mga nagpapakit dati
07:48.6
Activist daw sila
07:49.5
At nasan na sila ngayon
07:51.4
Who is defending Riza
07:53.0
Or yung mga alleged victims
07:55.2
I think Marcos is opening
07:57.4
What do you think about that?
07:58.6
Cynthia Villar saying
07:59.5
Kasi kaibigan kami
08:00.6
Mabait naman siya sa
08:01.7
Si Rowin Padilina
08:02.8
Pinayaram ako ng helicopter
08:09.4
Majority of how Filipinos think
08:10.9
By the way Richard
08:12.8
I've heard this way
08:17.5
Something you know
08:19.9
There's a news that comes out
08:23.2
About Chavit Singson
08:27.2
What kind of a person
08:27.9
Chavit Singson is
08:28.7
And then one of my friends
08:30.1
Pero nakilala ko siya
08:31.5
Mabait naman siya
08:33.9
That he's not corrupt
08:37.0
He's such a nice man
08:43.2
Pero trapo pa rin siya
08:46.4
Even a psycho killer
08:49.2
To people in public
08:52.8
Dahil isang serial killer
08:55.0
Kala mo hindi yan mabait
08:58.9
Yung mga psychopath
08:60.0
Yung mga psychopath
09:01.4
They can be super sweet
09:03.6
Literally psychopaths
09:05.1
Are like that bro
09:06.1
So kaya when people say that
09:07.9
I'm like excuse me
09:08.6
It doesn't mean that
09:09.4
They didn't do anything wrong
09:10.5
Because they're nice to you
09:11.5
How many times have I heard that
09:14.3
Criminals that steal money
09:15.7
Pero mabait naman niya
09:16.9
Parang hindi siya ganun
09:19.5
Dude you can be nice
09:20.8
And still steal money
09:26.3
May nagsabi na ganun
09:29.0
Ganit lang tayo sa corruption
09:30.5
Kung hindi tayo naka benefit
09:31.9
Kunyari yung mayor corrupt
09:33.3
Walang dumating sa barangay
09:36.0
Pero kung itong mayor na corrupt
09:41.8
It's so self-referential
09:45.4
So paano tayo magayas sa bansa
09:48.6
While you have people like Riza there
09:51.3
They're really out of conviction
09:52.9
And really risking it all
09:59.2
When next we're gonna have a senator like that
10:02.5
Or even opposition leader and all
10:08.1
I'm trying to encourage as many people
10:10.0
To run for politics nowadays
10:14.3
Kasi the people that run
10:15.2
Are not doing it to sacrifice
10:16.4
The people doing it
10:18.2
Because nobody else will
10:19.4
And they know they can profit from it
10:24.2
But a good majority
10:26.1
So having said that
10:28.1
Yung nakita kong problema
10:30.2
With our voting population
10:31.8
With the Filipino population
10:33.9
I had a conversation
10:36.8
Somebody from the
10:40.6
They're not very well off
10:45.1
They're not very well educated
10:47.2
And I had a conversation with them
10:49.5
Ang tinanong ko was
10:50.4
Anong ginagamit mo
10:56.7
You know ano yung sinagot
11:03.7
Habi ko sanali lang
11:06.3
Pag magagawa ka ng desisyon
11:07.8
At pag mag-iisip ka
11:15.4
I don't know if I was surprised or not
11:17.5
But that was a revelation to me
11:20.2
Ang ginagamit ko para mag-isip
11:22.0
Ay ang aking puso
11:24.5
That's why we're in a situation like this
11:26.0
And the problem we have today
11:27.4
Majority of people here
11:29.5
They decide emotionally
11:33.4
And then they justify it logically
11:36.4
That's the problem
11:40.1
The great Scottish philosopher
11:41.7
Would say probably all of us are like that
11:43.4
Some of us are just
11:44.3
Some of us are just more articulate
11:46.7
In putting something on top of that
11:48.2
But I see where you're coming from
11:49.7
Where I diverge from that
11:53.3
We are talking about voters
11:54.7
Who also brought Pinoy to power
11:56.0
We're talking about voters
11:57.1
Who elected Lenny to power
11:58.6
We're talking about the voters
11:59.5
Who also brought Vico Soto to power
12:02.3
I see where you're coming from
12:04.2
I mean the reason why I'm doing this
12:05.6
Is because I do believe in public education
12:07.6
I do believe in instilling critical thinking
12:10.1
Ang worry ko lang
12:11.2
With a lot of opposition people
12:12.3
Is there's so much voter blaming
12:15.1
What we have to do
12:16.7
Bakit ba't yung puso nila
12:20.2
Bakit yung puso nila
12:21.4
Kasi at the end of the day
12:23.1
Anywhere in the world
12:24.3
Maybe with exceptions
12:26.4
Sweden or whatever
12:27.3
But even not there
12:29.3
Politics is always about
12:31.6
Combination of emotions
12:35.1
Leadership is not just
12:36.9
Who has the highest IQ
12:38.9
There's a lot of studies that show
12:40.2
Don't put the really smartest people in power
12:42.2
They end up as that evil geek
12:44.7
The best leaders tend not to be the smartest people
12:47.0
The best leaders are people
12:48.0
Who can relate to different people
12:49.9
At different levels
12:51.5
Leadership is about
12:52.8
Risa Ontiveros won
12:56.9
Risa Ontiveros also won
12:58.6
In the election of
12:59.1
So I think that's a very good proof
13:01.7
If you do some tweaking here and there
13:03.9
Despite all of the shortcomings
13:05.6
With our public education and all
13:06.8
Baka makuha mo pa rin
13:10.3
There's a problem
13:11.1
With political education
13:12.3
I should probably know that
13:13.5
More than anyone else
13:15.9
We also have to realize
13:17.4
Paano natin makuha yung kanilang puso
13:19.5
Bago natin pag-usapan
13:21.0
Ang mga mas malalay
13:22.6
Mga komplikadong bagay
13:24.1
Marami sa ating mga kababayan
13:25.7
We don't have the time to do that
13:27.1
They're just struggling to survive
13:30.7
Living cost sa Manila
13:32.2
I mean sa Pilipinas
13:33.2
It's insanely expensive
13:36.0
Every time I come from
13:37.0
Some first world country
13:38.1
I realize how expensive
13:39.2
Philippines is for a third world
13:42.3
So if I as a middle class
13:46.9
That's where compassion comes in
13:48.3
As much as critical thinking
13:49.5
Is very important
13:51.2
Seek critical thinking
13:52.0
From a position of compassion
13:53.9
Yun ang stance ko talaga
13:55.6
Probably marami na inisahin
13:57.6
They were expecting me to
14:00.8
You did your best
14:01.9
Hindi nyo kasalan
14:04.2
Our people voted Pinoy
14:06.1
Our people voted Len into power
14:07.8
Vico Sote into power
14:10.5
How can we make them
14:13.0
Especially with Risa
14:14.7
She was the only one
14:16.1
Who made it to national level
14:17.3
Maybe she did something right
14:19.2
Maybe she represents something right
14:20.9
That we have to replicate
14:21.9
In the future races
14:23.2
That's where I come from bro
14:24.4
And I think that's where I defer with
14:25.6
A lot of our friends
14:26.4
Who share our frustrations
14:30.3
They may not share
14:32.1
What I believe is
14:33.0
Compassionate position
14:33.9
That we have to develop
14:34.7
But politically savvy
14:35.9
Because Filipinos
14:37.5
Are not the only emotional people
14:38.7
Latin Americans are the same
14:40.0
Italians, Spanish are the same
14:41.4
And yet in those countries
14:42.4
We have progressive leaders
14:45.8
He's the president of Chile
14:47.2
Spain has a very progressive government
14:52.6
That's where I slightly diverge from folks
14:54.1
Not necessarily from you
14:56.0
I think the sensibility
14:57.5
You were expressing a while ago
15:04.6
And lack of education
15:06.1
Is a source of all our evil
15:09.5
Let's also not forget
15:11.1
We also have an obligation
15:12.2
To build those bridges
15:14.0
There's something
15:15.5
Has been doing right
15:16.3
That we're not doing
15:17.0
Aside from all the wrongs he's doing
15:19.8
There are a lot of dodgy things
15:20.7
But I'm telling you
15:21.5
Maybe he's also doing something right
15:22.7
That we have to learn from
15:24.1
You know what I'm saying bro
15:25.9
Thank you so much
15:27.1
For bravely saying
15:28.7
Some of these things
15:30.2
We really need to fix
15:35.2
How do you seduce people into truth
15:36.9
So the seduction comes first
15:38.8
Before enlightenment
15:40.7
You bring seduction
15:41.4
Then enlightenment
15:43.1
We're not seducing
15:44.3
We're not doing the seduction right
15:46.6
Before even having the conversation
15:52.0
I just want to add to that
15:55.7
There's a problem
15:57.4
With this information
15:58.9
We didn't know where
16:00.3
Yung when it came in
16:01.8
Nobody knew what it was
16:03.4
We didn't have a term for it yet
16:06.0
Nung panahon ni Duterte
16:07.2
He took advantage of that
16:08.7
It blindsided all of us
16:10.7
Na akala ng mga tao
16:12.4
That this is the truth
16:15.0
There were all the lies
16:16.0
Propaganda being spread already
16:17.8
And then amplified
16:19.0
By the troll farms
16:21.4
And unfortunately
16:23.8
All over the world
16:25.1
Have a sheep mentality
16:27.2
They just kind of follow
16:29.3
Or the mob mentality
16:31.7
And it's not always
16:32.7
The correct attitude
16:33.9
To have na parang
16:34.7
Everyone thinks the same thing
16:36.7
It's a correct way of thinking
16:43.4
Now that we know this
16:44.5
Now that we know that
16:49.4
That there are more people
16:51.4
Courageously speaking out
16:55.1
False information
16:56.9
People now speak out
16:59.1
They will now combat
17:00.2
Against the troll farms
17:02.4
And that's important
17:06.0
And debate with mga trolls
17:07.0
That's a good thing
17:08.6
And I see a lot more people
17:10.2
And because of that
17:12.4
I do see progress
17:15.7
I was in the grocery
17:16.7
And the bagger said
17:18.5
Ikaw yung vlogger
17:19.9
And then he goes to me
17:21.3
Siraulo talaga tong si
17:23.7
And then I started laughing
17:25.3
Sabi ko buti naman
17:26.1
Na nare-realize na rin natin
17:28.1
Napapansin daw niya na
17:30.2
Mas marami tao nga
17:31.3
Na nakaka-realize ngayon
17:32.3
Na talagang matanda na
17:34.1
Mamaya pag nakita niya
17:37.2
Namiss ko si Tatay
17:41.8
Mga politikang tao
17:44.9
Richard you're right
17:47.1
We're nice people
17:49.1
We're nice people
17:50.3
So you're entirely right
17:52.6
That's very possible
17:57.4
That there is always
18:01.2
Shifting of the narrative
18:03.3
I really am seeing that
18:05.6
I am in my own echo chamber
18:08.8
If that's true or not
18:11.3
I'm still hopeful
18:15.1
If I had to fall back
18:17.2
I know that people
18:19.0
Have good intentions
18:20.2
I know that the voting
18:22.0
Majority of the people
18:27.1
Because in the movies
18:28.0
He looked like he was about
18:29.6
Therefore he's a hero
18:31.4
He's a hero in real life
18:34.1
Our job is to be able to
18:38.0
Reach out to them
18:41.0
Connect with them
18:42.4
That they can understand
18:43.6
Kaya tingin ko nga
18:47.2
Na nagtatagalog ako
18:48.4
Are able to reach
18:50.1
From all social classes
18:51.8
Alambes ko na napansin
18:55.2
Sometimes that I'm running
18:56.5
That will say to me
18:58.4
Ikaw yung vlogger
18:59.9
So watching my video
19:01.6
And then it's because
19:02.9
And I think that's
19:03.8
The important thing
19:06.0
That they can appreciate
19:08.5
It's very conversational
19:10.5
Yung gusto ng tao
19:11.2
Yung conversational
19:17.5
Nagpipicture lang ako
19:24.1
First time kumamit sila
19:27.2
Parang kainuman ko lang
19:29.0
Ganun yung that thing
19:30.2
I think it's also yung
19:35.4
You get what I'm saying
19:38.4
It's also that kind of
19:39.3
Relatability factor
19:40.4
I think very very important yun
19:42.4
Ponyo yung Tagalog
19:46.4
They know I'm a humorous guy
19:50.7
And yun din yung strength
19:52.8
Which is very spontaneous
19:54.1
Naka-T-shirt ka lang
19:57.2
That's a good thing
20:01.0
We're just two human beings
20:02.2
We're just two individuals
20:04.3
We have some platforms
20:05.6
But what we're hoping
20:06.8
Is yung ginagawa natin
20:07.8
Is it gonna inspire
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A broader movement
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Of people doing that
20:11.1
At every level of society
20:14.4
It's what we're inspiring
20:15.6
What kind of approach
20:17.2
When you have a platform
20:21.3
Can I add one more thing?
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On my YouTube naman
20:26.6
I did get comments
20:28.7
And I do get comments
20:30.1
From people that used to support
20:36.2
Bigyan ako mag-comment
20:39.7
I literally replied him
20:41.3
That's very courageous
20:41.9
For you to even admit
20:42.9
That you were wrong
20:44.7
With your perspective
20:46.2
And for you to come out openly
20:48.2
Yes, I did support Duterte
20:49.4
Natauhan na rin ako
20:51.5
Kung mali pala ako
20:53.5
I want to really commend you
20:55.1
And let you know what you did
20:56.3
Takes a lot of courage
20:58.2
Na mali ang ginawa ko
20:59.4
That takes a lot of guts
21:01.5
Taking out the ego
21:03.4
Kasi ang hirap tanggapin
21:07.2
May nakita akong tama ngayon
21:10.3
I hated you before
21:12.4
Pero now I'm seeing what you're saying
21:14.2
And thank you for always standing up
21:16.2
And I thanked him
21:17.7
Nagpapasalamat din ako
21:18.6
For telling me that
21:19.3
Because at least nakikita ako
21:20.5
That we're all open to discussions
21:23.8
I'm never against the people
21:25.3
Kahit sinusupport mo si Duterte
21:27.3
I'm not against you
21:28.7
I'm defending you
21:30.5
I am on your side
21:32.6
I'm not against you
21:33.5
Kahit galit ka saan
21:34.2
Tingin mo ako ang demonyo
21:35.2
Dahil kaaway ko yung
21:37.6
Hindi pa rin ako galit sa'yo
21:40.0
Isang katiting na galit sa'yo
21:42.1
Dahil ang pinaglalabang ko
21:44.0
Ay ang hindi mo lang alam
21:45.7
Na pinaglalabang ko
21:47.9
And kahit na ayaw mo
21:49.4
I'm still gonna defend you
21:52.5
All the things that you do
21:55.2
Kasi I understand that
21:56.4
You just don't know better yet
21:58.5
I don't mean that condescendingly
22:00.9
I mean that in a compassionate way
22:02.9
Where naintindihan ko na
22:04.3
Sa ngayon na hindi mo pa alam
22:05.9
Let me be that voice
22:07.9
To balance it out
22:09.5
Until the time comes
22:11.7
When you'll eventually realize it
22:15.3
You can always prove me wrong
22:17.5
I'm always open to discussions
22:21.8
Any kind of discussion
22:25.3
Kahit naiinsultuhin mga
22:27.1
I just won't reply
22:28.2
Pag naiinsulto ako
22:29.7
It takes it to a different level
22:32.0
I just don't go there
22:33.7
It's not constructive
22:36.6
I will defend all people
22:37.9
Regardless of who you support
22:40.9
Thanks Kuya Chris
22:42.5
I really appreciate it
22:46.6
Shout out sa mga followers natin
22:48.5
Nakikita ko sa analytics
22:50.8
Mga Davao followers
22:52.2
Sa different platforms
22:53.5
So that tells you
22:55.9
Frenemy number one
22:58.0
Before panahon ni Digong
22:59.8
But I had fantastic reception
23:02.4
They're so nice to me
23:04.7
I criticized Duterte
23:07.9
You're nice to me
23:09.6
But I'm not gonna change
23:10.6
My political conviction
23:11.9
But I had fantastic time
23:13.2
No I really appreciate it
23:15.1
I think we come full circle
23:19.5
In the first episode
23:20.8
We discussed about
23:21.6
One of the things that we discussed about
23:22.2
The manifestation of toxic masculinity
23:23.8
Is the unwillingness
23:25.9
And to have self-reflection
23:27.4
I think we have the same problem
23:30.0
This unwillingness
23:33.2
Or mistaken views
23:36.7
I appreciate people
23:37.6
Are willing to be
23:39.5
And get over their ego
23:40.8
I also appreciate
23:42.1
Ima haubayan natin
23:45.5
We're willing to also be open
23:48.1
Some of the reassessments
23:51.2
That has come to them
23:52.7
Thank you very much Chris
23:59.4
And I look forward to
24:00.3
Catching up with person
24:01.4
And fully in the future
24:02.2
Mag-arrange tayo ng in-person na lang
24:04.4
Konting budget lang
24:08.5
May ilokahan na Chinese
24:09.6
No but I'm just kidding bro
24:10.6
I think next time
24:12.5
Let's set up something
24:14.4
We sit down somewhere
24:15.6
You know the usual stuff
24:17.1
I think people would really appreciate that
24:22.0
Did something with
24:23.0
With Ronald Llamas
24:27.0
I think mabenta yan
24:29.2
And I think it's the right thing to do
24:30.6
It's not just about the views
24:32.5
It's the right thing to do
24:33.5
Yan sigurang project natin
24:35.6
Aside from Bitcoin
24:36.9
Yung mga kikitain mo
24:41.0
Sa mga ganyan na mga production
24:43.4
Thank you so much
24:44.6
Thank you so much Richard
24:45.7
I always enjoy our conversation
24:48.6
And talk to you soon
