SINAGOT NI SEN. HONTIVEROS AND CONDITIONS NI PASTOR QUIBOLOY SA PAGDALO
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parang dalawa lang yung posible.
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Ngayon mga kabatas natin, sinabi ko rin na
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in every discussion,
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to amicably come up
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with something that is
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acceptable to both parties, mga kabatas natin,
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yung intention ng isang tao
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ay makikita sa kanyang mga kondisyon.
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Parang for example, mga kabatas natin,
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alam nyo naman si Rafi Tulfo ang daming finile na kaso sa akin, di ba?
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Tapos mamaya nakita nyo naman, sabi ni Rafi Tulfo doon, no,
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200 million daw yung damages na gusto niya.
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Ngayon, kung pupunta kami, no,
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tapos tatanungin siya,
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o ako, o siya, mag-uusap,
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tapos tatanungin siya ng judge, JDR, kunwari,
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sige, para magka-ariglo kayo,
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magkano sa tingin mo ang pwedeng ibayad sa'yo ni Atty. Libayan
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masettle na itong kaso sa inyo.
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Sasabi niya, 200 million.
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Alam mo, tatawa ka na lang.
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Kasi you know for a fact already
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that his intention
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is not to actually settle the case.
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hindi din naman ako makakapagsettle.
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We were asked already actually by the court.
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At doon sa mga unang kaso, no,
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and I said I will not settle
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if it requires anything,
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if it requires me doing anything,
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to drop the case.
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So, parang ganito rin.
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Parang ganito rin.
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will actually manifest
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You must allow my 50 security personnel
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including a number of police
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to attend the hearing
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and secure my perimeter.
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Isipin nyo mga kapatid natin.
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50 security personnels.
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Sa kanya lang yun ha.
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To attend the hearing.
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meron pang a number of police
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You know that he really has no intention of
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going to the court hearing.
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Malamang yun sa security personnel nyo palang
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what's the point?
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Parang yung hinihingi ni Rafi Tulfo
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na 200 million na damages
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Alam naman natin lahat mga kabatas natin
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Ang daming nagtatanong kasi sa akin ito
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magkano ba yung damage
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na pwede kong makuha
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Kung ano lang yung mapapatunayan mo.
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Yun lang ang ibibigay ng korte.
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Now, if you are asking for 200 million in damages
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and you don't have proof to show
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that you suffered 200 million worth of damages,
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tatawanan ka lang ng korte.
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na you are putting out crazy numbers
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you don't have evidence.
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Even moral damages need evidence.
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Kailangan mong ipakita na nagkaroon ka ng sleepless nights.
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Otherwise, they will not grant it.
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You don't just throw out numbers there
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like you throw out conditions anywhere.
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It must be with intention.
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Now, if your intention actually
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parang arbitrary yung hearing nyo,
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yung contempt power nyo,
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yung mga witness nyo,
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yung mga witness nyo bayad,
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Kaya natatawa nga ako dun sa 200 million,
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hinahighlight nila
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yung 200 million in damages
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na hinihiling sa akin ni Rafi Tulfo
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na ibibigay niya daw sa foundation niya.
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it's just throwing out numbers in the air
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without any basis.
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Tapos proud na proud sila sa ganun.
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what's your basis?
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Why you need 50 security personnels?
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pag pumunta ka dun,
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ang magsisecure na talaga
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ng iyong kapakanan
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Tuloy natin sa susunod.
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you must allow me to bring my own witnesses
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to testify against your witnesses.
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Ano ang purpose natin ulit
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sa Senate Investigation in Aid of Legislation?
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Gumawa ng batas, diba?
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Ngayon, kung doon,
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ang nangyayari kasi dito,
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ang nakikita yata kasi ni Pastor Quibolo dito,
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it is a trial against him
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na parang nasa korte.
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Na kung magpe-present kayo ng witness,
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magpe-present din ako ng witnesses.
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It doesn't work like that.
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I don't know if...
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it's not actually the intention of the Senate
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to clear your name.
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Or for you to clear your name.
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Pero, tuloy na yung sinasabi ko,
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dapat naman kasi yung mga witnesses doon din,
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ay hindi naman sila
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nagsasabi ng defamatory remarks.
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mga kabatas natin,
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kapag gumagawa ka
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o nagbibigay ka ng defamatory remarks doon
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you can be held liable.
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Because you are not a senator.
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You don't enjoy parliamentary immunity.
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Dapat nga pinipigilan din nung mga ano yun eh,
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mga senator yun eh.
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Pero I think that's how Rafi Tulfo eh,
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So, I think they're trying to adapt it there
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because Tulfo is there.
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naging RTA na kasi ang Senado
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kaya medyo ilags siya sa
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means waste of time.
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Gano'n lang naman yan eh.
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No time limit means waste of time
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because we all know
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they don't follow the rules there in the Senate.
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Shocking din ito.
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It must be your own responsibility
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to secure safety clearance
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from ATO and KAAP
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for my private jet
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and land from Dabao International Airport
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to Manila Airport
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Smoothly and without trouble
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in compliance also of condition
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of this set of conditions.
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All expense paid.
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Alam niyo mga kamatas natin,
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i-relate ko na lang kayo sa Korte
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kasi parang gano'n yung nangyayari
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Parang iniisip nila na parang
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Korte yung pupuntahan nila eh.
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Sa Korte kasi mga kamatas natin,
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responsible for your own witness.
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Kung malayo yung witness mo,
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you have to pay for the
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fare of the witness.
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Kung absent yung witness mo,
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you have to pay for
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he's doing things for you.
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Yun nga ang gusto ko rin may ipasang batas eh.
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Na kapag ang isang tao ay titistigo
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para sa isang krimen,
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dapat babayaran siya doon sa sahod niya.
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At saka dapat excused siya
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Ipakita niya lang yung sabina.
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Sa ngayon kasi mga kamatas natin,
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I don't know if meron na
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o hindi pa na-implement,
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pero so far in my 12 years
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or in my 12 years,
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as a trial lawyer,
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yun ang reklamo lagi
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ng mga tao na tumitistigo
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para sa gobyerno.
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Hindi sila bayad,
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hindi rin sila binibigyan
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ng pamasahin nila.
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Unlike kapag private
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ang titistigo, oh sorry,
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titistigo para sa isang private
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sinisigurado kasi yan
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Katulad ako, sasabihin ko,
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o bigyan mo ng pamasahin,
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witness mo yan eh.
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E bayaran mo yung sahod niya,
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witness mo yan eh.
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Aabalahin mo siya
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So that's part of your expense.
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Para rin yung, yung ano,
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hindi maabala ng todong-todo.
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Ikaw, hindi mo naman siya bayaran.
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So sasabihin nila bayaran yung witness?
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Eh, i-re-reimburse mo lang yun.
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Di ba? I-re-reimburse mo lang yun.
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Ganon din dapat ang gagawin
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ng gobyerno natin.
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it's high time that
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we also make that.
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Para naman magkaroon naman ng,
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ng consuelo de bobo
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yung mga witnesses na titistigo.
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Kasi yun lagi nilang nilareklamo sa akin eh.
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Especially if they were working
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in a private firm.
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hindi ako bayad dito.
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for the prosecution sila,
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hindi naman magbabayad yung prosecutor.
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Hindi naman binabayaran ng prosecutor yan.
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kung interest nila ang kasali,
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so, sila yung makikipag-usap.
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Sasabihin nila, wala akong pamasahe,
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sige ako magbabayad ng pamasahe mo.
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Wala silang kita.
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bayaran ko yung isang araw mo,
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magkano ba yung isang araw mo?
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Ganun yung mangyayari.
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mga kabatas natin,
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this is different.
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mga kabatas natin,
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that is a private jet.
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Magkano yung gas niyan?
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Iba naman yung parang
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magpapapunta ka lang ng witness dito.
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magkano yung pamasahe mo?
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Kunwari, galing Baguio.
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Ah, sige, galing ka ng Baguio,
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isasakay kita ng ano,
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ng maayos na victory liner.
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Yung deluxe na bus.
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Ah, sige, bibigyan kita ng Php 2,000
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para kasali yung pagkain mo.
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Para sa pamasahe mo.
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Tapos, babayaran ko yung
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Hindi naman pwede kasi na parang,
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kunwari, yung witness ko pupunta dito,
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ay, attorney, ayoko magbus.
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Kailangan ko limusin.
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hanggang sa korte,
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yung mga bodyguard ko sa limusin.
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That's unreasonable already.
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At sabi niya ano,
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sagot ng taxpayers
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yung isang litrong aviation fuel.
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Ano ba yung aviation fuel?
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High octane, di ba?
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High octane ba yun?
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It must be your own responsibility
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to secure safety clearance.
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So, lahat ng clearance, safety,
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bla, bla, bla, bla.
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magte-take off tapos maglaland.
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all expenses incurred from this trip,
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ito na yung number 14,
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including private jet flight,
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with parking in Naia,
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food according to my dietary requirements,
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and fees for accommodation
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in a five-star hotel.
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For me and my party,
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must be shouldered by your office.
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Isipin mo, 50 yung bodyguard niya.
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Tapos ipapasok mo yung 50 sa isang five-star hotel.
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Magkano ang five-star hotel?
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Ay, hindi, three hundred.
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Hindi kong ganun lang.
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Ang five-star hotel,
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I guess, 25,000 and above yan.
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Hindi ba kalabisad naman yan?
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Medyo, medyo gulat pa nga ako
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pag kunwari humingi ka ng five-star accommodation
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kahit mag-isa mo lang eh.
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Kahit mag-isa mo lang eh.
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Kasi bakit kailangan mo ng five-star accommodation?
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Isang gabi ka lang naman.
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It must be shouldered by your office.
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Ito kasi mga kapatid natin,
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I want you to know also, no?
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If people say it's shouldered by your office,
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it's shouldered by the taxpayers.
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Pag sinabi ni Tulfo na
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from the office of Senator Rafi Tulfo,
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it's paid by the taxpayers.
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Kasi yung office niya is the Senate.
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Yung tupad na yan,
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yung aiks na yan,
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it's shouldered by us, taxpayers,
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na binibigay natin.
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If you have a lot of money already,
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why burden the taxpayers pa?
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Hindi pa tayo tapos.
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Hindi pa tayo tapos.
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keep on trolling the Senate
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on how little power they have
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over-criminalizing a person.
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Dapat may minors to serve me during my stay.
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This set of conditions must be
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duly signed by the President of the Philippines
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and Speaker of the House of Representatives,
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Martin Romualdez.
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Anong kinalaman nila diyan?
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Yung original na Jesus nga,
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walang sariling bahay,
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tapos daming demands nito.
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Huwag bigyan nyo na.
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Anong kinalaman nila diyan?
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This set of conditions must be signed
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by the President of the Philippines.
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The President of the Philippines
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does not care about
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the Legislative Department
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Because they have separation of powers
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So anong pakialam ni President dyan?
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Hindi naman siya yung gumagawa ng batas
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At hindi naman siya boss ng mga senador
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Because of the separation of powers
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And those three powers are co-equal
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Yung executive, yung legislative
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At saka yung judiciary
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They are co-equals
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That's why they can't perform
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Or they can't act
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In relation to one another
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With checks and balances
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Ngayon, Speaker of the House of Representatives
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Ano rin ang kinalaman niya?
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Oo, kasali siya sa Congress
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Kasi siya yung Speaker ng mga House of Representatives
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Mga congressman natin
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This is a Senate hearing
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Senado lang ang kasali dito
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At hindi Congress
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So wala silang kinalaman dyan
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Naalala ko tuloy yung debate ni Kayu
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Ako daw yung pipirma
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Anong kinalaman ko dyan?
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Ako yung magsasign ng waiver
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Ako yung pipirma din ako sa kontrata
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Doon mo makikita yung intention
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Na wala talaga silang intention na matuloy
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Because of requiring this absurd condition
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Of actually fulfilling
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There's no expectation
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Na matutuloy yung
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Pagtestigo mo sa korte
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May dalawa pa tayo
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The written answers
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To this set of conditions
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The scheduled hearing
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With your signature
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So sasagutin pa itong mga conditions na ito
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Well okay naman yan
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Kaya lang ang problema dyan
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Tulad nga sinabi ko
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Parang 200 million lang ni Rafi Tulfo
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Kung tinanong ka po
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Bakit 200 million?
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Gusto ko lang 200 million
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Bakit 50 bodyguards?
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Gusto ko 50 bodyguards
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List of 5 star hotels
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Sofitel Philippine Plaza
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Makati Shangri-La
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Meron pa yung mga nasa Pasay
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Ano pa yung mga nando doon?
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To comply to this set of conditions
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Forfeits your chance to my expository attendance
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Ito namang Senate kasi
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Para magkaroon ng expository attendance
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Isipin mo mafu-forfeit pa
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It forfeits your chances of winning
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It forfeits your chances of winning
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Parang ang gusto nyo mangyari dito
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Hindi kayo pumayag eh
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17 conditions lang nga meron siya eh
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Hindi kayo pumayag
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Kasalanan nyo na yun
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Ang daming requirements
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Ang daming requirements
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At talagang natin
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Hindi pa tayo natapos dun
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Hindi pa tayo natapos dun
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Thus rendering your Senate hearing a big joke
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Of shameful charlatans
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And a shallow exposition of a bunch of idiotic paroting mindless pathological liars
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And a bunch of idiotic paroting mindless pathological liars
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And a bunch of idiotic paroting mindless pathological liars
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by their deceiving
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Linagay sa number 17.
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May ad hominem naman na
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personal attacks.
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Meron na rin namang
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personal attacks dun sa unang.
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Uy, huwag ganyan.
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Mahilig talaga si Pastor
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Yung iba nga, 16.
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a poorly prepared
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typewritten narrative
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to the intelligence
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critical thinking people.
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Batas natin community.
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for the sake of sanity
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I think he knows very well
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na hindi naman masusunod yun.
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Kaya dito sa dulo
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yung number 17 niya
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in-assume niya na
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na hindi nila gagawin.
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Kaya sinabi niya na
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na yung Senate hearing
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Alam niyo mga kabatas natin
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okay pa naman yung
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Senate hearing sa akin eh.
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Basta ayusin sana nila.
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Ang problema kasi talaga
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na nagiging big joke
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yung Senate hearings.
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pag si Rafi Tulfo yung nandu doon.
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Isipin mo mga kabatas natin
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ng rules of court
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versus arrest warrant
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pinapaniwalahan mo pa rin
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yung tinuro sa'yo
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o yung pagkakaalam mo
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na alam mo namang maling-mali.
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So it makes the hearing a big joke.
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Ngayon mga kabatas natin
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hindi na yata tayo aabot.
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Pero pakinggan natin ng konti.
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walang kahit sino dito
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na darating ang araw
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na kapag may ipinatawag na
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joke din naman si Gibbs
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kaya huwag naman ganyan.
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Umunta sa hearing
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pupunta ako sa hearing
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sa labimpitong kondisyon.
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First time ko makabalitan ng ganito
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Well, there's always a first time for everything.
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Pastor Quiboloy ang sampung utos ng Diyos.
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At ang masasabi ko lang dyan
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Anyway mga kabatas natin
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para madiridiretso natin yan
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Sunod. Bukas. Bukas.
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Bukas natin pag-usapan yan.
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Lipat na po tayo sa kabila.
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At syempre tulad na lang yung sinasabi
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dun sa matutulog na
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matulog po tayo ng mahimbing
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na yung natutulog na mahimbing
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siya yung lagi yung panalo.
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Paalam po patsaman natin.
