KINUWESTYON ANG PROVIDER NG MACHINE PARA SA 2025 ELECTION

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Because it reflected

this mathematic

at the time, and I

have here the decisions which are

signed, they

reflected the true will of the

people except 15

votes out of

150,000 votes, and that

were not included because of the

you know, the circling of

the blackening of the circle

was not beyond the threshold.

So my point, Mr. Chairman,

is this. Did you

also get, because you cannot

brush this aside, these are reports of

certain agencies and organizations.

Did you get the report of Carter

Center, the National Episcopal

Conference of Congo, and the Church of Christ?

We're talking about the Democratic Republic

of Congo. Did you get that,

Commissioner?

We have such report.

We were aware of that

report because that's

news in the news, but

during bidding process,

it is only the EMB

concerned that we need the certification

not for the private EMBs.

They're ready reports from other

countries because it's not a

light matter. We are talking about

elections of our country. Did you

get the report or you did not?

Carter, National Episcopal Conference,

and Church of Christ, they were cited

in this report. Did you get them?

You did not. According to SBAC,

they did not get the report of that.

So that is a big

negligence, Mr. Chairman. There are

integrity of the elections.

We should have gotten this

because then you have to study whether this

Miro is really qualified

and did a very lousy

job in Congo.

Okay, the second one, Mr. Chairman.

So I'd like to have this

submitted to the committee

that there's

one who said it is satisfactory.

Of course, it's

an agency which conducted a field election

in Congo, and they will now say

that it is satisfactory.

Because they were the ones who

were responsible for this

failure of the elections

in Congo. Iraq,

Mr. Chairman.

In Iraq, there is no certification by the

Electoral Committee Commission of Iraq.

What was stated here

according to common election certificate is not.

It is a statement,

Mr. Chairman, of the United Nations

representative in

Iraq. And it is

not even about a watchdog for

elections of the United Nations.

The UNAMI

is a

United Nations assistance

mission for Iraq.

And what does it say here?

Not a certification, a statement

in a briefing of the

Security Council. It said that

many Iraqi

political leaders publicly endorsed

the electoral process, including the Prime Minister

and the President. But some

other political leaders, including Vice

Presidents of the Republic,

and the Speaker of the Parliament,

concerned over some of the technical

shortfalls encountered

with the electronic vote

tabulation devices. Clearly,

the Speaker of the Parliament,

the Vice President,

has come out

to say that there were really

failures

in some election

areas

and resulting to the conduct

of the elections. This is not a certification,

Mr. Chairman. And then

this particular

UNAMI representative,

you know,

later on, there was a statement

because it's now being used to say

everything was in order in

Congo, sorry, in Iraq.

What did the

statement

of December 12 from Claudio

Cordone, Deputy

Chief of UNAMI? He certified

that UNAMI

does not have an electoral

monitoring role. So therefore,

this is a piece of paper.

We cannot in any way

assure you

that Iraq had

a good implementation

of their automated system

by Miro. Next question.

Did you dare forget

because this is all in the papers?

Did you get the report

of the Alliance of Networks and

National Organizations

for Monitoring Elections?

Which stated that

70% of the voting stations experienced

difficulties which eventually

resulted to the conduct of

manual election.

Bumalik sila sa manual, 70%.

Now, did you get that report?

To be able to, you know,

have this considered,

you not only will get one side of the issue.

The problem here is because

Congresswoman

Frans Castro

is saying that you are making it tailor-fit

for Miro.

That is an allegation which you should answer.

With only one

bidding, there is no bidding

at all.

One bidding is no bidding

because you cannot get.

And I see people there laughing.

You do not laugh for my statement,

Komelek, because I'm going

to charge you.

Kayo, you do not.

It's not a laughing matter.

It's a matter, Komelek,

of making sure that we will not have

the same experience of Congo

and also Iraq.

So, that is the point.

So, have you answered?

Because you answered in the earlier Congo,

you did not go into getting the statements

of these three organizations.

Now, how about the Alliance of Networks

and National Organizations for Monitoring

Elections in

Iraq? Did you get also

this report?

Commissioner, please reply.

Well, Mr. Chair, to answer that question,

Mr. Chair, the purpose of getting

the certification from the EMBs

regarding this one is for the bidding

process for the single largest

completed contract. So, the,

the SLCC that they submitted,

the provider, the Miro,

is the election that was

held in Congo. So, that is why

the certification was issued

by the Congo. And they did not include the Iraq

because it's not part of their

SLCC.

Yeah, that is for the...

And that's the election, not the provider.

In other words, you should have the totality,

Commissioner

Casquejo.

You should be able to get all these reports

to make an informed,

choice, informed

choice for the best interest

of our country. You have to get all these

reports to LA. Now,

for example, you did not. So, you will

you will depend on the

Republic of Congo or of

Iraq. You will depend

on the speech of this

UNAMI, which was

disowned by the Vice

President of the United Nations.

They do not monitor elections.

So, this is the only thing that

made you say that there

are certifications. It is not.

It does not hold. So, therefore,

Mr. Chairman, we see

here that certainly

I can see that, you know,

they did not go into the proper

role of getting all information

to have an informed choice on whether

Miro can be able to give

a satisfactory or a very

good elections in

2025. So, Mr. Chairman, I'd just

like to submit this to you because

these are the basis for them giving to Miro

without going to the investigation.

Mr. Chair.

Can we first ask the

Comelec to submit a

certified copy of the

of the paper submitted as

presented by the Honorable

Rufus Rodriguez?

Yes, Mr. Chair. We will submit.

Mr. Chair, nalimutan.

The list of bidders.

Can you, before we go to...

Yes, Mr. Chair. In fact, I can read it

right now. We have Dominion Indra

Group Holdings,

Electrotech

Consultants and Miro

System who bought

bid docs but only

the Miro submitted their

bid

during the opening of bids.

Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair, dadagdag ko lang.

Hindi lang po sa Iraq

or Democratic

Republic of Congo nangyari yung

mga failure. In fact,

meron din, Mr. Chair, sa mga nakalap

natin na report,

mayroon

on

on

, eto po, dito sa

Argentina.

Meron din pong mga report

dyan. Tsaka sa

Kyrgyzstan.

Kyrgyzstan.

Kyrgyzstan.

Ito rin, Mr. Chair.

Limbawa dito sa Kyrgyzstan,

Miroin in Kyrgyzstan began

with shady

purchase process. In 2013,

instead...

...

...

, purchase of election technology

was done through an ODA

agreement with South Korea

facilitated by Aweb.

Financed by

KOICA.

So, eto, Mr. Chair,

sinasabi dito that the

yung election commission dito

sa Kyrgyzstan

were accused of

receiving cash compensation

for the deal. So, yung

corruption nun.

This translates into millions of dollars.

for Miro. So, nagkaroon ba

kayo ng investigation?

Natanong nyo po ba

ang Miro kaugnay dyan,

Mr. Chair, doon sa

alleged na corruption

na pinasok ng Miro

with the government?

Kyrgyzstan yun. Tapos,

eto po, Mr. Chair, sa

democratic... Dito sa Argentina,

ang ilan sa mga concerns

yung potential security vulnerabilities.

The proposed

modification to Argentina's

electoral law failed to

garner sufficient votes to pass the Senate.

Tapos, eto po, yung technology

in 2017, national parliamentary

elections, may potential

na may deal po with

South Korea. So,

13 Argentinian information security

specialists and

two civil society groups

including Poder Ciudadamo,

the Argentinian chapter

of Transparency International,

published a statement expressing

concern with potential

vulnerabilities

and electronic voting technology

in general, including

yung potential threats

to ballot secrecy as well as potential

barriers to transparency.

So, tinignan din po ba

ito ng

COMELEC, etong mga ganitong

report or experiences

ng Miro with

the Argentina? Secrecy na ito

nung ballot, Mr. Chair?

Commissioner, please respond.

Well, Mr. Chair, during the bidding

process, during the POSCA, only those

which is in the GPPB

rules were checked by the

SBAC. So, yun lang po.

And then,

siguro, Mr. Chair,

we'll have to ask

our chairman that the Miro system should answer

all these questions regarding

those allegations. We are aware

of that. Mr. Chair,

dapat yung background noong

beader, tinitignan natin

right from the start,

sabi ko na yan eh, before pa kayo

nag-contract with

the Miro. So, may mga ganitong mga

allegations. So, nakita nyo ba yan?

So, parang, Mr. Chair, parang

binaliwala nila eh, yung mga

tanong natin, kaugnay

dito sa mga allegations ng

inefficiency, corruption.

So,

gusto natin tanongin, Mr. Chair,

bakit binaliwala nila ito? Parang

bulag ba sila doon sa

naging record

ng Miro in the past

sa iba't ibang

mga bansa?

Mr. Chair?

Commissioner, please. Yes, Mr. Chair,

the SBAC is aware of that, but

according to them, it's just a mere

allegation.

So, they proceed with the

post-coup process

as updated by law.

Kasi they cannot just decide

mere on allegations naman, Mr. Chair.

So, that's how the

bidding process was done.

And,

rest assured, Mr. Chair, that we

will invite

the Miro, and they have to answer

all those allegations, and the

Comelec will also, I will

suggest to the N-Bank that

the Comelec will also conduct this

investigation. How true are those

allegations? What happened in other

countries, Mr. Chair?

Mr. Chairman,

allegations.

So, therefore, you set aside the allegations.

But then,

you disqualified

Spartmatic on

allegations of bribery.

In the United States.

Just by that reason,

not because of any technical difficulty.

In your statement,

you disqualified because of

allegations of bribery

in the United States.

And you have, therefore,

disqualified

a provider

which has been giving

the, from 2010

up to 2022.

So, when you say about

allegations, you should,

if you disqualified

Spartmatic because of allegations

of this, then, the more

here there are four countries now

stated that there have

been allegations of bribery.

In fact, the head

of the Electoral

Commission in South Korea

resigned due to

these allegations. So,

I mean, you should

have done your

due diligence from the

very start. You will not say,

ah, the back will look only at the

technical aspect, no? Because there are

these allegations already

being brought to you. So, that is

what we're saying, Mr. Chairman.

So, in this case,

we have to have, therefore,

this, to investigate

what were

stated by these agencies.

And we can get this

particular report and go into

the matter because we cannot

at the same time just allow

a

a

particular provider

where there are questions of

inefficiency and corruption

in four countries, Mr. Chairman.

Mr. Chair,

Mr. Chair,

Mr. Chair, aside from the

request of other

documents, may we also

request, Mr. Chair, the list

of

recommendations or

feedback from the other stakeholders

that were submitted to the public.

From my understanding, I think,

Lente did not submit any comments

regarding the technical aspect.

And the DOST,

which was a partner, or a member of

the Technical

Evaluation Committee, did not submit

yet its recommendations.

So, may, Mr. Chair, can we request

copies of the recommendations?

Yes.

We can ask Lente. They are here

and, of course, the DOST, I think,

is likewise here.

Yeah.

Good morning, Chair.

Good morning, Your Honors.

On the first day of the post-qualification

for the bidding,

there was a commitment made by

Miro that they will submit

the documents attesting

their performance in the other countries.

And on this first day,

we also submitted a request to

COMELEC regarding

access to these documents to be submitted

by Miro. So,

we want,

we still continue with that

request that we get access

to these documents submitted by

Miro as to the certifications

of their performance in the other

countries that they provided their

automated electronic system.

Mr. Chair.

Mr. Chair,

last,

again to the

COMELEC, Mr. Chair.

So, nandito na tayo sa situation

that there was, there

has been an award

despite the fact that there are

clouds of doubt

surrounding the

provider.

And

there are customization

issues that will be addressed

by the COMELEC as per

commissioner.

And according to the

good commissioner that there

or that you will have

six months, six months,

five months to

address those customization

issues.

So, Mr. Chair, may we ask when they plan

to have a demo here in the house?

As much as possible, kung pwede asap even,

could it be even before the notice to proceed is issued?

Because, again, it's not, it's not within our province to tell them when to award the notice to proceed.

But to have the notice to proceed,

sign

without a demonstration

here at the house and without

any clear

resolution to those customization

issues will

provide more doubt

to the situation.

It will not help, Mr.

Chair. So, may we get a

commitment from the COMELEC

and hopefully from MIRO

that they will

demonstrate.

And have a demonstration

as soon as possible, Mr. Chair.

The problem is under the law,

under 9184,

within 15 days from the notice of award,

dapat mag-NTP na sila.

Yun yung problema natin kung before.

Can you do that?

Kasi we'll be having our

break next week,

the week after.

Kaya ang timeline,

lang natin hanggang next week lang po.

Kung yung sa demonstration.

We will look into it, Mr. Chair.

I will ask the Chairman

to have even the base system.

And,

I'll try to

correct it,

it's not a customization issue

but it's a customization based on the TOR,

Mr. Chair.

Based on the letter of Chairman Garcia,

it is a customization issue.

That's why

you did not have the letter of Chairman Garcia.

That's why you did not have the letter of Chairman Garcia.

You did not have a demonstration today.

Because you want to address those issues.

Yes, Mr. Chair.

That is correct, Mr. Chair,

based on customization issues.

Because it's just the base system.

So we have to customize it

according to the terms of reference.

Pwede naman po mag-demo tayo

using the base system

what we've seen

after the POSCUA demonstration,

the end-to-end demonstration.

And we will ask the MIRU to be present also

to address those issues.

Allegations against them.