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00:01.0
Alright! Yan! Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isang mga live stream.
00:06.6
Mga kabatas natin, sumagot na po yung abogado ni Pastor Apolo Quiboloy, the appointed son of God.
00:21.2
Ngayon titignan natin yung parte ng kanyang sagot.
00:24.5
At pag-aaralan natin mga kabatas natin yung balita dito sa UNTV News and Rescue.
00:32.2
Nakalagay dito yung title niya, Quiboloy still won't attend probe.
00:36.2
Contiveros to request arrest.
00:39.4
So tulad ng sinabi ko kahapon, mag-uunahan na nga sila.
00:43.7
Pero bago sila mag-unahan mga kabatas natin, unahan muna natin mag-reaction.
00:48.9
At tignan yung mga basihan dito sa mga sinabi ng abogado ni Pastor.
00:54.5
Pastor Quiboloy. Okay? Let's go!
00:58.2
The cap of Kingdom of Jesus Christ or KOJC leader Apolo Quiboloy has responded to the show cause order issued by the Senate.
01:05.3
Hours before the 48-hour window ended, Quiboloy...
01:08.1
Yan. Hours before the 48-hour window ended.
01:12.7
Yun nga yung sinabi ko sa inyo mga kabatas natin.
01:15.0
Hindi pa naman kasi natapos noon. Ngayon, sinubmit na.
01:18.9
Pag makikita nyo kasi dito mga kabatas natin, nakalagay dito sa title niya.
01:24.5
Papakita ko sa inyo para may paliwanag ko sa inyo kung ano ang content nung kanyang sagot.
01:34.8
Ang title niya dito mga kabatas natin, compliance and legal justifications.
01:41.8
Bakit ganyan? Bakit compliance?
01:43.5
Bakit compliance? Dahil ito ay show cause order.
01:48.2
So, pag sumagot ka, you are complying with the order of the...
01:54.5
Senate Committee, no?
01:58.3
Na sumagot ka at magbigay ka ng paliwanag.
02:02.1
So, the submission of this paper alone is deemed as compliance.
02:07.4
Pero hindi ibig sabihin noon mga kabatas natin na dahil sumagot siya, hindi na siya ipapaaresto.
02:14.0
Compliance and legal justification.
02:16.6
Kasi pinakita nila dito yung legal justification kasi yan naman ang hinihingi nitong si...
02:27.1
Ito, maganda na rin i-discuss natin kasi may nag-comment.
02:31.7
May forum shopping ba dito?
02:33.6
Well, pag titignan mo kasi parang pwede nga.
02:37.3
Kasi nga, meron dun sa House of Representatives.
02:40.8
Tapos meron doon sa Senate.
02:43.5
Tapos meron din doon sa Korte.
02:47.5
And basically, it is tackling almost the same issues kung saan.
02:54.4
Ito ay yung mga kaganapan doon sa Kingdom of Jesus Christ.
03:01.0
Pero mga kabatas natin, I don't think this is forum shopping.
03:06.8
Because they are different committees and they have different purposes.
03:12.1
Bakit ko sinabi yun?
03:13.2
Different purposes.
03:14.6
Punta tayo sa Korte muna.
03:16.6
Doon sa Korte, mga kabatas natin,
03:21.1
ang basihan ng Korte,
03:24.4
kung bakit ihihiring ito,
03:27.3
ay kung makita kung guilty or not guilty itong si Pastor Quibuloy
03:31.6
doon sa mga kaso na finile sa kanya.
03:35.0
Ito nga yung sexual abuse, human trafficking, etc.
03:39.0
Hindi kaya ng Senate yun at saka House of Representatives.
03:44.1
Ngayon, pupunta tayo sa House of Representatives.
03:46.1
Doon sa House of Representatives naman, mga kabatas natin,
03:48.9
ang hinihiring nila dito ay yung franchise ng SMNI.
03:52.5
So, it's totally different.
03:54.4
Doon naman, pero siyempre mga kabatas natin,
03:57.1
please correct me if I'm wrong,
03:58.7
I don't have the whole grasp doon sa House of Representatives.
04:02.1
Kasi nga, mas maalam ako doon sa Senate,
04:05.7
nangyari sa Senate kaysa doon sa House of Representatives.
04:08.1
Pero napanood din naman natin doon sa House of Representatives,
04:10.6
yun ang hinihiring doon ay yung franchise.
04:15.1
Yung legislative franchise.
04:16.6
So, tama yung sinabi ni No Nonsense DJ.
04:19.3
Different purpose or actually the better term is different issues.
04:25.5
Ipapaliwanag ko sa inyo kasi yung forum shopping mamaya.
04:27.8
Ngayon, mga kabatas natin, doon naman sa Senate,
04:30.7
ay yung in aid of legislation,
04:33.9
kung saan gagawa sila o pagtitibayin nila
04:36.5
yung mga batas tungkol sa human trafficking at saka yung mga labor laws
04:40.5
na binanggit nga ni Sen. Rontiveros.
04:43.4
Ano ba ang forum shopping?
04:44.5
Ang forum shopping, mga kabatas natin,
04:46.4
ay yung pagfafile ng kaso kung saan may pare-parehong partido.
04:52.9
Pagtitignan nyo doon sa pare-parehong partido,
04:54.4
magkaiba na yung partido dito.
04:57.4
Kasi nga, doon sa Senate, iba naman yung mga parties doon
05:00.5
and it involves the representatives.
05:05.0
Iba din yung parties doon sa kabila,
05:07.6
sa Senate hearing,
05:08.7
kasi nga, this is between the Senators and Pastor Kibuloy
05:12.5
because this is in aid of legislation
05:14.2
and ang parties naman doon sa Korte, mga kabatas natin,
05:18.2
ay between the victims and the accused.
05:23.9
Yung huli, ito pa, mga kabatas natin.
05:26.1
Siyempre, yung relief sought.
05:28.7
Iba-iba rin yung relief na makukuha mo.
05:32.0
Kaya, in my opinion, mga kabatas natin,
05:34.9
hindi ito pwedeng maging forum shopping
05:37.1
because they are completely revolving around different issues.
05:42.1
Pero yung sinabi ko, uulitin ko,
05:43.7
dapat the same parties, the same issues,
05:47.0
and of course, the same relief sought.
05:54.3
Tuloy natin dito.
05:55.3
Pag-aralan natin ito, mga kabatas natin.
05:57.9
Ayan, nakalagay dito, mga kabatas natin,
06:01.3
Pag-INRE, in relation to, no?
06:03.8
Privileged Speech of the Reported Cases of Kingdom of Jesus Christ Leader Apollo Quiboloy
06:09.7
delivered by Senator Risa Conteveros on December 11, 2023.
06:15.1
Tapos, may resolution number, resolution directing the Senate Committee
06:19.0
on Women, Children, Family Relations, and Gender Equality to Conduct the Senate Committee on Women, Children, Family Relations, and Gender Equality to Conduct the Senate Committee on December 11, 2023.
06:23.2
Tapos, may resolutionULMDOK.com
06:23.8
an inquiry in aid of legislation into the reported cases of large-scale human trafficking,
06:30.1
rape, sexual abuse, and violence, and children,
06:34.0
and child abuse of the Kingdom of Jesus Christ
06:36.8
under its leader, Apollo Quiboloy.
06:39.6
So, binasa natin yung title kanina,
06:41.4
compliance and legal justification,
06:43.2
respondent, Pastor Apollo C. Quiboloy,
06:45.6
blah, blah, blah, blah, states, sabi niya,
06:47.5
the chairperson, Risa Conteveros, sabi niya,
06:53.2
layunin ng komite
06:57.6
na kung ano po ang yung
07:04.8
makakatulong sa inyong
07:07.3
lahat na victim survivors
07:13.4
mula sa gobyerno. So dito
07:15.5
mga kabatas natin sa kanilang
07:16.8
prefatory statement o ito yung
07:22.0
statement nila mga kabatas natin
07:24.5
dito nila pinapakita na
07:29.3
yung korte at saka
07:31.6
yung senate hearing
07:34.8
hustisya yung kinakamit nila
07:37.5
mali naman kasi talaga
07:41.2
na doon ka sa senado kukuha
07:43.1
ng hustisya. Hindi ka
07:45.2
naman kasi kukuha ng
07:47.1
hustisya sa senado. Gumagawa
07:49.2
ka ng batas sa senado
07:52.6
nagkamali ng pananalita
07:54.7
dito si Risa Ontiveros
07:56.7
pero parang lately pinaglalaban
07:58.9
niya naman mga kabatas natin
08:00.3
na hindi talaga itong habol niya
08:02.4
kundi ang habol niya ay makagawa
08:04.2
ng batas na mapapagtibay
08:08.8
loss natin at saka yung loss natin
08:10.7
against human trafficking. Yun na yung
08:12.6
pinaglalaban niya dito ngayon mga kabatas natin
08:14.7
pero I think also
08:16.4
mga kabatas natin na maganda nga yung
08:18.3
kinote nila dito pero unfortunately
08:20.7
will this hold water?
08:22.5
If that is one of the purposes
08:24.2
eh ididisregard lang yan. Kasi
08:26.3
you cannot seek justice with the senate hearings
08:28.5
you can only seek justice with the courts
08:32.7
hindi lang naman yan yung hangarin
08:34.7
nila at kung nabanggit man nila yan
08:39.1
Okay? They can just disregard it
08:42.3
Ngayon mga kabatas natin sabi niya
08:44.5
whereas considering that
08:46.4
the crimes were committed within
08:48.3
the territorial jurisdiction of the Philippines
08:51.7
ano yan? Considering the crimes
09:01.5
and Kiboloy remains free
09:06.5
free sabi niya dito
09:12.3
to run the operations
09:14.8
of Kingdom of Jesus Christ
09:17.9
that the investigation is
09:29.6
Tuloy natin mga kabatas natin
09:33.0
Kiboloy's legal counsel
09:34.5
attorney Elvis Balayan submitted
09:36.5
its written response to the office of
09:38.5
Senate Deputy Minority Leader Rizzo
09:40.4
Honteveros laying out his legal arguments
09:42.8
as to why the religious leader
09:44.3
should not be arrested and detained in the
09:46.6
Senate. He maintains that the Senate
09:48.5
Ito kasi mga kabatas natin ano ho
09:52.5
clear din sa mga tao
09:53.6
mga kabatas natin
09:54.3
hindi ito yung sagot
09:56.3
ni Pastor Kiboloy
09:59.9
paratang sa kanya sa Senado
10:01.6
Ito lang yung sagot niya
10:03.7
kung bakit hindi siya dapat
10:07.7
John not in aid of legislation
10:09.4
alleging that it already
10:11.7
guilty for his alleged abuses
10:13.5
We still believe po na yung
10:15.7
resolution itself
10:21.8
para kay Pastor Kiboloy
10:23.4
na siya ay pumunta sa Senado
10:25.5
without sacrificing
10:27.4
his fundamental bill of rights
10:31.6
kasi mga kabatas natin
10:32.7
this is a very classic
10:40.5
Kapag may nakita ka dun sa
10:44.7
pokpukin mo lang ng pokpukin yun
10:46.8
baka yun yung pumasok
10:48.4
Pero ang problema dito mga kabatas
10:51.5
although nagkamali nga
10:52.9
ng sinabi doon si Ontiveros
10:55.4
na magsisik sila ng justice
11:06.2
hindi siya incorrigible
11:14.1
said the wrong words
11:15.9
made the wrong statements
11:18.2
kasi nga that is not in line
11:20.5
with your investigation
11:22.0
aid of legislation
11:23.8
you can just abandon that
11:25.6
and you can just correct it
11:30.6
Kasi ito nga sinasabi nila
11:32.0
paulit-ulit daw na sinasabi nila
11:34.8
na inaakusahan nyo ng guilty
11:36.5
itong si Pastor Quiboloy
11:38.6
the Senate has no power to do that
11:44.0
The Senate has no power to do that
11:45.9
I'm being fair to
11:50.5
ang tinitignan ko mga kabatas natin
11:52.1
eh yung kanilang mga argumento
11:53.8
tulad na sinabi ko sa inyo
11:56.5
parehong ayaw ko ito
11:59.5
ayoko yung Senate in aid of legislation
12:02.6
kasi nga inaabuso yan
12:05.4
ayoko rin kay Pastor Quiboloy
12:10.2
pahayag na ginagawa niya
12:16.8
tsaka yung mga inaalaw niya na kung ano-ano
12:19.1
doon sa SMN na yung mga pahayag na ginagawa niya na siya yung anak ng Diyos
12:23.7
I'm being fair here
12:26.4
kung nagkamali man si Risa doon
12:29.2
hindi naman yun ang dahilan
12:32.4
hearing in aid of legislation
12:34.4
and the court upheld already
12:36.4
na legal yung Senate hearing in aid of legislation
12:39.4
at legal din yung pagkocontempt
12:41.4
pero kailangan lang ng due process
12:51.0
not a valid excuse
12:55.4
kasi nga hindi naman sila yung magsasabi na guilty or not guilty
13:04.2
katayang paulit-ulit na sinasabi namin
13:07.2
yung resolution mismo po
13:09.8
ay sinasabi na guilty na po
13:11.9
sa mga kiripensi pastor
13:13.3
at ito ay patuloy na kanyang kinukumit
13:15.6
he further argues that
13:17.4
Ang question dito
13:22.2
Pwede ka bang maging bias
13:24.1
Sa Senate Hearing in Aid of Legislation?
13:29.5
Ito yung sinasabi ko sa inyo na ayoko nangyayari sa Senate Hearing in Aid of Legislation eh
13:33.2
They are not actually
13:34.9
They are not actually doing it
13:38.7
Because they want to
13:42.3
Or amend the laws
13:43.6
They are not doing it
13:46.5
They are doing it because of media mileage
13:56.4
Katulad nung kanina
14:01.7
Tuwang tuwa at ginagawang libangan
14:06.4
O yung mga hindi magandang sinasapit ng mga tao sa kanilang buhay
14:12.9
Yung iba pinagkakakitaan pa ngayon
14:16.5
Yung hindi magandang nangyayari sa buhay ng ibang tao
14:22.4
Tignan yung nangyayari sa Senado ngayon
14:35.1
Tapos magsusorry ako
14:37.7
But did they do anything to improve our laws?
14:43.8
Or make laws for that matter?
14:46.5
Yung hindi na pinaglalaban nung kabila
14:52.1
Ngayon mga kapatas natin
14:54.7
Kung hindi ipapaaresto ito si Pastor Kiboli
14:58.3
Dapat wala kayong ipapaaresto
15:01.0
Yung malakas lang
15:03.9
Ang nire-respeto nyo
15:09.7
That's why I kinda like what's happening here
15:12.4
At napag-aaralan din nila yung rules nila
15:20.7
Napag-aaralan din nila yung rules nila
15:22.7
Kasi binabasa ko yung rules nila
15:25.7
Parang hindi nila ginagawa eh
15:27.4
Rules na nila yun ha
15:36.4
Mapapahiya ka kasi sa public
15:38.9
Puro pander lang sa votes
15:42.2
Pobya in advance si Kib sa pahinga
15:46.3
Pobya in advance si Kib sa pahinga
15:46.5
Papahiyaan sa Senado
15:47.4
Kaya napahiya naman na siya doon eh
15:49.4
Hindi mo naman kailangan nandoon
15:54.0
Pinahiya naman na siya doon
15:55.8
May mga witnesses na nga natumistigo laban sa kanya
16:01.1
Against a religious group leader
16:02.8
Can only be settled before courts
16:05.1
Nabanggit din po namin doon na
16:08.4
May limitasyon no
16:09.6
Ang karapatan ng Kongreso
16:13.1
At yung limitasyon na yun ay precisely
16:16.3
or to control the legislator from abusing the fundamental Bill of Rights
16:23.4
of resource persons or witnesses appealing thereat.
16:28.1
At ito yung sinasabi niya na parang, well tama naman,
16:31.4
binanggit ko naman na sa inyo yan,
16:33.3
na protected pa rin ng Bill of Rights,
16:37.3
yung fundamental rights mo as a person pag nandoon ka.
16:40.3
Ang problema kasi, dahil itong mga senador na ito,
16:44.3
meron silang parliamentary immunity,
16:47.1
o kaya pinagtitibay na pwede silang maging mapangahas
16:50.6
doon sa kanilang Senate investigation,
16:54.7
doon sa mga hearings nila,
16:56.3
o kaya sa mga privileged speeches nila,
16:58.7
inaabuso naman ito.
17:00.9
E ang limitasyon naman dyan,
17:02.7
e dapat hindi mo aabusuhin yung fundamental rights ng isang tao.
17:06.7
So it's really valid to answer na
17:10.9
I invoke my right against self-incrimination
17:13.7
because, siyempre,
17:18.6
kung mapapasama ka nga doon sa sagot mo,
17:20.7
karapatan mong hindi sagutin.
17:22.1
Pero ano nangyayari pag in-invoke mo yun?
17:25.4
O kaya guilty ka na.
17:28.9
When asked if this means that Kibuloy still won't attend the next Senate hearing,
17:33.2
Malayan says they will wait for the Senate's response
17:35.6
for their next legal action.
17:37.9
Sana po, e basahin ng mabuti ng ating mga kagalang-galang na senador,
17:43.8
justifications po na isinalang namin
17:46.4
sapagkat ito po ay naaayon sa Constitution
17:49.0
at sa existing jurisprudence
17:51.3
on the powers of the Congress
17:53.8
or the Senate in particular
17:56.0
to conduct investigation
17:57.5
without violating the sacred Bill of Rights
18:01.8
of resource persons or witnesses
18:03.7
na umaaten sa kanilang mga pagdining.
18:06.6
This is also good.
18:08.7
This is also good.
18:09.6
Tuloy nga na yung sinabi ko sa inyo.
18:11.6
This is a learning experience for both of us.
18:15.8
Especially for us.
18:17.7
Ito, sa sagot ni Sen. Santiveros.
18:20.8
Santiveros says she will request
18:22.6
Sen. Tuan Miguel Diggs Zuberi
18:24.7
to approve the arrest order
18:26.1
against the religious group leader.
18:28.5
So wala pang warrant of arrest.
18:30.9
Diba? Kasi papaprove pa lang eh.
18:34.9
Sino kayo mauuna?
18:36.8
The opposition leader emphasizes
18:38.4
that Kibuloy will be detained
18:40.0
not because of his guilt over allegations
18:42.0
but because of him snubbing the government.
18:43.6
She also cited previous Senate's inquiries
18:58.6
that serve as president
18:59.8
in investigating the issue
19:01.2
while a case is already filed in court.
19:03.9
The lawmaker also
19:07.0
pinapahanap nila yun eh
19:08.4
yung mga president o ka-presidents na yun
19:10.3
inihaharap niya ngayon
19:12.6
na parang nangyari na yan.
19:13.6
So bakit ngayon hindi yung mangyayari?
19:17.3
Sa tingin ko may problema rin kasi yan noon eh.
19:20.0
And that needs to be checked.
19:22.4
Ngayon mga kapatid natin,
19:23.8
told nyo nang sinabi ko kahapon, diba?
19:26.5
Pag natapos naman itong committee hearing na ito
19:28.6
at nagkaroon ng submission of the reports,
19:30.6
wala na rin naman yung warrant of arrest na yan eh.
19:32.7
Pero can they go to court?
19:33.9
Like for example,
19:34.9
nag-issue ng warrant of arrest
19:40.4
Nag-issue sila ng warrant of arrest.
19:41.7
Yung warrant of arrest na yan,
19:43.6
pang dalhin sa Supreme Court at questionin.
19:47.5
Kasi nga, nakalagay doon mga kabatas natin
19:49.8
na the Supreme Court
19:51.9
through Rule 65, no?
20:02.0
if there is grave abuse of discretion
20:04.4
amounting to lack or excess of jurisdiction
20:06.8
in relation to any instrumentality of the government.
20:10.6
So that includes the Senate of the Philippines.
20:13.1
At nangyari yan doon sa kaso na ni Lingkong Ong.
20:37.5
Anyway, yun lang mga kabatas natin.
20:39.3
I tried to explain it the best that I can.
20:41.9
At syempre, ito lang lang.
20:43.1
Ito lang yung sinasabi.
20:43.7
Matulog po tayo naman yung beng
20:45.5
na yung natutulog naman yung beng,
20:47.6
siya yung laging panalo.
