01:18.8
So can you please educate our listeners and media friends here?
01:22.9
Okay. So, well, Sir, just to inform everyone,
01:29.4
yung Benham Rice,
01:30.0
nasa East Coast yan, nasa Pacific.
01:33.3
Nasa Pacific yan.
01:35.3
Nagpapatrolya yung Navy dyan.
01:37.3
I was fortunate to have that experience when I was still in the service.
01:41.4
Papatrolya yung Navy dyan.
01:42.9
Yan, uncontested yan.
01:45.4
Kasi yung sinasabi nilang nine-dash line na dinidispute natin
01:49.7
nasa West Coast naman,
01:52.4
nasa South China Sea, West Philippine Sea.
01:56.2
So, dito, wala na silang alibi dito.
02:00.0
So, pero nung panahon, Sir, ni Duterte,
02:04.5
birin yung nag-attempt silang gumawa ng agreement
02:08.4
ng parang joint exploration dyan
02:12.4
na nagkaroon lang ng intervention dahil lumabas publicly,
02:19.4
talagang sinel out.
02:21.8
Kasi wala namang silang, ano na, Sir, dyan eh.
02:24.0
Wala nang claim kahit na ano.
02:26.4
Legitimate. Atin talaga.
02:28.0
Ngayon, I don't know.
02:30.0
But they can't come up unless si Duterte sign something
02:37.9
but dapat i-invoke ng China.
02:40.9
At pwedeng i-abrogate ni President Marcos
02:47.8
kung ano man ang agreement ni Duterte
02:51.4
if there is such an agreement.
02:53.6
So, we are not sure whether there was an agreement.
02:56.9
Yes, Sir. Kailangan i-invoke, Sir, ng China yun
03:02.2
Kasi unilateral, ano lang naman, na decision, Sir, yan eh.
03:07.0
Pero kahit historical, wala talagang basis,
03:10.7
talagang intrusion yan.
03:13.0
Pero when I was still in the Navy,
03:16.3
pag may nakikita kaming ganyan, Sir, hinuhuli namin.
03:20.0
Pwede mo nang huliin yan.
03:21.8
Wala na magagawa, Sir, yung ano dyan.
03:23.4
Will this intrusion sa Benham Rise be considered as
03:27.2
more alarming doon sa mga,
03:30.0
marabang weekly stories of water canons
03:32.5
against our fishing vessels?
03:35.1
Magkapareha, Sir, in terms of gravity.
03:39.9
Kasi, oo naman, Sir, talagang kiss-kiss na ron.
03:43.5
It can, kung ma-aksidente yung barko natin
03:49.6
at lumubog at may mamatay,
03:51.7
problemang malaki yan, noong,
03:53.8
na kailangan ma-resolve ba?
03:56.7
Ito naman, talagang intrusion.
03:59.3
So, maliwanag na.
04:00.8
But, it's up to the armed forces to do what it needs to do.
04:08.5
Pwedeng damputin lahat yung mga yan, Sir?
04:11.9
If you were the decision maker, Sir,
04:14.3
yung mga nangyayari ngayon sa water cannon incidents,
04:17.8
itong pinaagrabe, meron ng na-injure na
04:20.2
Philippine Navy personnel,
04:23.5
ano po ba sa tingin ninyo ang dapat gawin
04:25.6
at ano sa tingin ninyo ang mangyayari
04:28.3
during the incident?
04:29.3
At the time of our President Bongbong Marcos?
04:32.5
Ang pwedeng gawin dyan, Sir,
04:34.9
kung ang objective is sa resupply mission,
04:38.6
pwede natin, Sir, ilapit-lapit yung ating mga
04:44.3
supply ships na may heliborne capacity, Sir.
04:49.0
Hindi nila maawawater cannon yan.
04:52.1
Kunyari, i-digit mo lang
04:53.5
a tenautical from Ayungin,
04:57.3
mga ano lang yan, 15 minutes.
04:59.3
I-digit lang yung chopper ride.
05:02.5
Ang, if we deploy that, Sir,
05:04.9
there are people who are saying that
05:07.3
baka we are already provoking
05:10.4
because these are no longer
05:12.5
Coast Guard vessels but Navy.
05:16.3
Anong masasabi nyo dyan, Sir,
05:17.6
na baka ma-provoke naman natin yung
05:21.7
Hindi necessarily ma-provoke, Sir.
05:24.1
Kasi malayo naman yan, Sir.
05:25.5
Tapos, ano yan eh,
05:30.5
Dapat, wala naman problema na
05:32.5
hindi rin yung, ano.
05:34.3
At yung mga tineo tayo nilang,
05:37.0
Sir, hindi naman natin napakita
05:38.5
yung resupply mission sila doon.
05:41.0
Bakit nila pakita naman ito?
05:42.5
Barko ito, Sir, eh.
05:44.6
So, meron nga replenishment at sea na
05:50.4
Para lang magawa yun.
05:55.4
even if we have every right to do that.
05:58.6
Baka may escalate, Sir.
06:00.0
Pero with this, mabilis lang.
06:01.8
Within 15 minutes, mariresupply nila yun.
06:04.6
Tapos, eventually, they can just put
06:06.3
a helipad doon, Sir, sa, ano,
06:12.0
Winnewelding lang naman yan, eh.
06:13.9
Inaayos lang yan.
06:14.7
Kaya ang gawin yun, Sir.
06:15.7
So, they can do that.
06:17.5
Kapag magkaroon ng helipad mismo doon sa
06:19.6
BRP Sierra Madre,
06:21.6
resupply mission by air na lang.
06:23.9
Di wala nang binobomba.
06:28.6
Senator Sani, what do you think of the, ano,
06:31.0
the effectiveness of our,
06:33.2
siguro, naka-apat na yata tayo
06:35.1
or limang diplomatic protests.
06:37.5
What do you think of the effectiveness
06:39.0
of these kinds of
06:40.7
official government activities
06:45.4
Well, kahit hindi siya, Sir, effective,
06:47.5
we have to keep on doing it.
06:49.8
Kasi, the moment we stop doing it,
06:51.8
sasabihin ng China,
06:53.1
oh, may stop na kayo.
06:54.3
Hindi nyo, hindi mga kayo nagreklamo.
06:55.7
So, parang tinanggap nyo na,
06:58.6
we have to keep on doing it.
07:00.9
But, I agree, Sir, ano,
07:02.2
hindi na siya effective
07:03.4
kasi nagiging rogue state na itong China
07:06.5
as regards the West Philippine Sea issues.
07:10.3
Hindi siya nakikial,
07:11.1
hindi, hindi, hindi ni-disregard niya
07:12.9
all international rules.
07:18.6
And again, based on your analysis,
07:24.7
itong incursions ng China
07:27.9
sa West Philippine Sea issues,
07:28.0
itong incursions ng China sa West Philippine Sea issues,
07:30.5
to their eventual invasion of Taiwan.
07:36.0
credibility to that story?
07:38.5
Or likelihood of that event?
07:41.8
intelligence information, Sir,
07:52.1
invasion of Taiwan.
07:57.3
So, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito, ito.
07:57.9
2027, yun yung timeline nila.
08:00.7
And because of that,
08:02.2
they need to make sure
08:04.5
na itong Pilipinas
08:06.4
ay hindi magiging
08:13.3
forward operating base
08:14.8
ng American forces.
08:22.0
So, the likelihood of an invasion
08:29.1
And what do you think should the
08:31.1
Republic of the Philippines do, especially
08:33.0
our government leaders, given that
08:35.0
imminent invasion?
08:38.5
makiramay tayo dito sa
08:41.1
issue na ito. Yung Taiwan
08:45.4
Tayo nung ginigipit tayo, Sir,
08:47.5
dito sa West Philippine Sea,
08:49.0
humihingi tayo ng saklolo.
08:50.8
And some nations responded.
08:54.4
Japan, Australia,
08:57.9
so nagresponde sila.
08:60.0
Pero when the time comes na itong
09:02.0
Taiwan ihingi ng tulong,
09:04.3
tayo, being the closest neighbor,
09:06.8
we have to respond.
09:08.6
Historically, ganun yung Pilipinas
09:12.2
sa Vietnam, sa Korea,
09:14.3
nagre-respond tayo.
09:20.6
na madadamay tayo,
09:23.2
magsarili lang tayo.
09:26.3
Pag ginawa mo yan,
09:27.2
darating yung panahon,
09:28.9
ikaw ang hihingi ng tulong,
09:30.7
walang sasaklolo sa iyo.
09:32.7
So, hindi dapat ganun.
09:41.0
tinatayong yung EDCA bases.
09:47.5
They will be able to support
09:50.6
military operations.
09:55.5
Doon concerned yung
09:56.4
military operations,
09:58.6
They want it stopped.
09:59.9
Pero, wala na yun.
10:01.7
The ship has sailed,
10:03.4
matatapos na yun, Sir.
10:05.2
Maganda na sabi mo,
10:07.2
about the EDCA bases.
10:09.7
And at the same time,
10:11.0
maganda yung nasabi nyo,
10:14.3
ang ating current president,
10:22.4
as compared to his predecessor.
10:25.1
Some political analysts
10:27.2
na itong nangyayari
10:33.5
eh, parang proxy war lang po ito
10:36.5
Ano sa tingin nyo doon, Sir?
10:37.7
I totally agree, Sir.
10:46.3
kasi nangyari lang na itong
10:48.3
si Duterte talagang pro-China.
10:50.9
Ito naman si President Marcos,
10:52.7
hindi naman necessarily pro-US.
10:59.4
dahil talagang very,
11:00.9
very aggressive naman yung ginagawa sa
11:04.5
doon sa West Philippines.
11:05.6
Papano tayo magiging kaalyado niyan?
11:08.9
China basically turned away
11:12.7
si President Marcos
11:15.7
and towards the Western allies.
11:18.1
Si Duterte lang kasi nung panahon niya,
11:21.1
hinayaan niyang binubuli yung mga
11:26.5
to the point, Sir,
11:27.7
na nag-issue siya ng order early on
11:31.2
sa AFP, sa Navy in particular,
11:34.6
na huwag magpatrolya doon sa
11:37.6
I remember yan, Sir.
11:39.2
He practically surrendered that.
11:42.4
Sabi ko nga, when we were still
11:44.2
in the service sa Navy,
11:46.1
pag may nakita kaming pumasok
11:48.2
sa EEC, kuhuliin talaga yan,
11:50.0
dadalin talaga sa
11:54.3
Ngayon, nung panahon niya,
11:56.5
walang nanguhuli, Sir.
12:00.2
And akala nung China, they can keep on
12:02.2
doing that kay President Marcos.
12:04.7
Pero, apparently not.
12:07.2
Pero, is it too late, Sir,
12:08.6
to reverse that policy
12:13.1
na, sige, pababayaan na lang
12:15.0
namin kayo. And then,
12:17.1
if our leader will now
12:18.7
say, ah, hindi, we will no longer
12:20.8
honor that accommodation,
12:23.2
huhuli na lang namin kayo?
12:24.6
Do we still have that, number one?
12:26.5
That audacity? Number two, that
12:28.4
capability? And then, number three,
12:30.7
that responsibility
12:32.9
to protect our territory?
12:36.5
capability, Sir, baka wala na. Doon sa
12:38.8
West Philippine Sea part.
12:41.3
Pero yung dito sa may
12:44.6
yan, Benham Rise,
12:46.9
Scarborough area,
12:51.0
Kaso nga lang, magkakaroon,
12:52.8
Sir, ng standoff.
12:55.4
So, yun naman ang inaawasan.
12:56.1
Inaawasan. But, it doesn't mean
12:58.0
na pababayaan mo na lang sila.
13:00.4
So, yung ginagawa ngayon, Sir,
13:06.6
silang, vigilant sila,
13:08.4
nakikita nila, yan yung
13:09.5
tinatawag na maritime domain awareness.
13:14.2
nangyayari sa teritoryo natin,
13:16.5
Sir. At hindi nila hinahayaan
13:18.2
lang yung China. So, that is
13:20.1
good enough. Pero yung ibang areas,
13:24.2
Hindi parang takot na takot, Sir, eh.
13:27.9
hinuhuli namin noong late 90s,
13:30.3
dyan sa area na yan, mga
13:31.9
Chinese ships naman, wala
13:37.9
malaking issue, although there was
13:42.6
ako, Sir, nag-file sila
13:44.1
ng diplomatic protest, and I was
13:45.9
named kasi I was one of the
13:48.2
boarding officers, Sir.
13:50.1
But still, it didn't stop us from doing
13:52.1
our job. Yung Chinese vessel
13:54.1
na hinuhuli nyo, Sir, nung nasa Navy kayo,
13:57.9
fishing vessel ng China? Meron
14:00.1
yung cover, may mga
14:02.0
fishing vessels, pero ito cover ito, eh.
14:04.3
We believe it was a surveillance ship
14:08.4
disguised as a fishing vessel.
14:10.6
Kasi sophisticated yung radio
14:12.1
equipment. Ah, so,
14:16.3
and because of that,
14:17.9
ah, prinotesta ako na.
14:20.7
Pero ano nangyari, Sir,
14:22.1
dun sa barko, at saka
14:24.0
dun sa mga tao dun sa loob ng barko?
14:26.1
Nang Chinese vessel.
14:27.6
Well, they were unharmed.
14:32.1
yun, Sir, nakita nila na
14:33.7
nag-enforcer yung
14:37.9
eventually, nagreklamo sila, Sir,
14:41.4
binunggo daw sila, o kung ano man.
14:44.7
So, they were temporarily
14:47.8
pinalaya nyo rin using the same boat
14:49.8
just to show them that, oh, you
14:52.8
territory. Yun, Sir. Tapos,
14:56.1
we made sure, paalabas, Sir, sila.
14:58.9
So, makikita naman ng radar yun, Sir, eh.
15:01.0
So, lumaya, Sir, sila.
15:04.4
what, ah, we should do.
15:06.5
At least, doon sa mga areas
15:10.2
ganong disputed, as yung
15:17.4
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