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00:00.0

Incidentally, sa akin personally, marami nagtatanong din at nakikita ko po online.

00:10.6

Ano bang planan nyo sa 2025?

00:12.3

Kasi ngayon, ang konteksto po natin, biyak na biyak yung UNITEAM.

00:16.3

Miski nagpa-plastikan si Sarah at si Bongbong, alam natin, biyak na biyak.

00:21.1

Pinaparesign si Bongbong Marcos ng tatay ni Sarah Duterte, sampu ng mga alipores nila.

00:27.2

So despite that, si Sarah nasa gabinete pa rin.

00:30.8

Ang madalas na nakukuha ko punta dito sa programa, nasa na ba yung legit na oposisyon kesa naman si Duterte yung nag-aasta ang oposisyon?

00:39.0

So ano po ba ang plano as far as you're concerned?

00:43.0

Well, you know, talagang makikita mo naman na itong UNITEAM na pinag-uusapan nila, wala na uwi sa pako.

00:55.3

Kaya nga, yung pangakong na uwi sa pako.

00:58.8

Which already gives you a sense na ano ba talaga ang mga layunin nito?

01:04.0

At nakakalungkot.

01:08.6

So ang ano dyan, is there a, actually the question is, meron bang puwang for an alternative to both?

01:17.0

Pretty much, di ba?

01:18.4

Kung baga, a third poll.

01:20.3

We will see.

01:20.9

You know, I tried to do that.

01:24.2

Sa totoo lang.

01:25.3

2007.

01:27.6

If you will recall, 2001, pinag-resign si Erap, di ba?

01:32.8

Sa EDSA 2.

01:35.1

Dumating si, pumalit si Gloria.

01:38.8

In 2005, dahil sumabog yung Hello Garcia, pinag-re-resign din si Gloria.

01:46.9

In other words, both were tainted, di ba?

01:51.4

Ika nga.

01:53.6

So, kung both were tainted.

01:55.3

But there was an opportunity for neither of the two, di ba?

02:01.1

Kung baga, none of the above, di ba?

02:03.4

For 2007.

02:05.9

Kasi 2007 midterm eh.

02:09.4

At yun sana ang gusto kong mangyari.

02:11.4

Na hindi Erap, hindi GMA.

02:14.2

Kung hindi a third force, di ba?

02:16.8

In fact, we were working overtime.

02:19.6

Noong mga panahon na yun.

02:21.0

Dahil apat kami sa Wednesday group na kong tawagin.

02:24.2

Na,

02:24.7

na re-electionist.

02:27.7

Ako,

02:29.0

si Ralph,

02:30.0

si Joker Arroyo,

02:31.1

Ralph Recto,

02:32.0

at si Manny Villar.

02:33.2

Di ba?

02:33.6

By that time, 2007,

02:35.7

vice president na si Nolly de Castro.

02:39.2

So, eh kasama siya sa aming grupo noon.

02:41.9

So, ako,

02:42.8

ang sinasabi ko,

02:44.2

huwag tayong mag-admin,

02:45.4

huwag tayong mag-oposisyo.

02:47.9

Di ba?

02:48.3

Magbigay tayo ng alternative sa dalawa.

02:51.4

And, at some point,

02:53.1

talagang,

02:53.7

ito,

02:54.8

ito,

02:55.9

kumbaga,

02:56.6

very appealing to,

02:58.4

to all.

02:59.8

No?

03:00.3

In fact, sabi nga ni,

03:02.1

naalala ko noon eh,

03:03.1

parang,

03:04.4

we,

03:05.1

after every meeting,

03:06.2

agreed na eh.

03:07.6

Di ba?

03:07.9

Hindi na admin,

03:09.0

hindi na opo.

03:10.2

Independent kami.

03:11.3

Di ba?

03:11.9

Kaso,

03:13.0

for some reason,

03:14.0

and I'm sure,

03:14.8

na now,

03:15.2

in hindsight,

03:17.2

ayaw yan

03:17.8

noong GMA camp.

03:19.6

Siyempre, di ba?

03:21.0

Ayaw din yan

03:21.9

noong Arab camp.

03:23.2

Di ba?

03:23.6

Kasi,

03:24.0

teka muna,

03:25.1

eh, kami ang,

03:26.1

kami ang administration,

03:27.8

kami ang oposisyon.

03:29.1

So, they worked hard,

03:30.2

really,

03:31.2

para hindi mangyari

03:32.3

yung third poll.

03:33.4

So, ang nauwi,

03:35.5

ah,

03:36.6

ayun,

03:37.7

ako na lang,

03:38.8

yung hindi nag-ERAP

03:39.8

at hindi nag-GMA.

03:40.9

Kasi, si Ralph and Joker

03:43.0

went with the admin,

03:45.1

and then si Manny

03:46.1

went with the oposisyon.

03:48.2

So,

03:50.2

that was the closest

03:51.3

that could have been,

03:52.3

no, eh,

03:53.1

hindi,

03:54.2

parang an alternative

03:55.2

to both

03:56.2

those claiming to be

03:57.2

oposisyon and admin,

03:58.2

di ba?

03:59.2

Or two forces.

04:00.2

So, we'll see.

04:01.2

So, ngayon?

04:02.2

So, ngayon?

04:03.2

Meron mang puwang para sa legit?

04:06.2

Well, alam mo,

04:07.2

maaga pa.

04:08.2

Sabi nga nila,

04:09.2

marami pang mangyayari.

04:10.2

The election is still

04:11.2

over a year away.

04:12.2

Things can get worse

04:14.2

or things can

04:15.2

worse

04:16.2

for,

04:17.2

for both,

04:18.2

ah,

04:19.2

the,

04:20.2

you know,

04:21.2

ah, Duterte

04:22.2

and, ah,

04:23.1

Marcos.

04:24.2

Or it can get better.

04:25.2

We don't know.

04:26.2

But we will,

04:27.2

for me,

04:28.2

that is an option.

04:29.2

Di ba?

04:30.2

Isang opsyon yan.

04:31.2

Hindi,

04:32.2

hindi

04:33.2

Sara,

04:34.2

hindi

04:35.2

Marcos.

04:36.2

Ah,

04:37.2

pero,

04:38.2

depende sa tao yan.

04:39.2

Ah,

04:40.2

at sa mga leader,

04:41.2

siyempre.

04:42.2

So, it is an option.

04:44.2

Ah,

04:45.2

we will see.

04:46.2

But I'm sure,

04:47.2

what,

04:48.2

even,

04:49.2

ah,

04:50.2

kumbaga,

04:51.2

I'm sure both,

04:52.1

ah,

04:53.2

Marcos and,

04:54.2

ah,

04:55.2

both Duterte

04:56.2

would not want that kind

04:57.2

of alternative.

04:58.2

Hmm.

04:59.2

Yung pakala nyo rin pala

05:00.2

lumalabas sa mga

05:01.2

pre-election surveys,

05:02.2

no?

05:03.2

Kayo ba,

05:04.2

have you made up your mind

05:05.2

whether to return to the Senate

05:06.2

or not?

05:07.2

Well, I'm seriously

05:08.2

weighing it.

05:09.2

No?

05:10.2

Marami rin ang nagsasabing,

05:11.2

di ba,

05:12.2

I should go back.

05:13.2

In fact,

05:14.2

yun yung original plan ko.

05:15.2

Hindi ko naman planon

05:16.2

talaga yung

05:17.2

Vice President.

05:18.2

Ah,

05:19.2

ah,

05:20.1

kumbaga,

05:21.2

kung last minute yung decision

05:22.2

ni Vice President Lenin nun,

05:23.2

eh,

05:24.2

last 15 seconds

05:25.2

ako.

05:26.2

Dahil,

05:27.2

siyempre,

05:28.2

magkatapos,

05:29.2

kung

05:30.2

naghanap siya ng Vice President

05:31.2

after siya nag-decide,

05:32.2

hindi ako yung na,

05:33.2

na,

05:34.2

natanungan.

05:35.2

So, hindi ko talaga mawala.

05:36.2

Naiba lahat ng plano, no?

05:37.2

Naiba yung plano

05:38.2

pati sa inyo.

05:39.2

Exactly.

05:40.2

But,

05:41.2

you know,

05:42.2

duty, di ba?

05:43.2

I have no regrets, no?

05:44.2

Ah,

05:45.2

and sabi ko nga,

05:46.2

kung ako eh,

05:47.2

ah,

05:48.2

if I were asked

05:49.1

to go over again,

05:50.2

yes.

05:51.2

Kasi nga,

05:52.2

grabe din naman yung

05:53.2

outpouring of support.

05:54.2

And that's why hindi pa talaga

05:55.2

tapos, no?

05:56.2

Ah,

05:57.2

but I am weighing,

05:58.2

ah,

05:59.2

seriously weighing it.

06:00.2

And that's why I'm seriously weighing it.

06:01.2

Because, ah,

06:02.2

we're also looking at the numbers,

06:03.2

no?

06:04.2

Ah,

06:05.2

tingnan natin.

06:06.2

Kasi mahirap din yung,

06:07.2

yung,

06:08.2

ah,

06:09.2

di ba,

06:10.2

lalaban ka tapos,

06:11.2

ah,

06:12.2

hindi ka pala mananalo,

06:13.2

di ba?

06:14.2

Ah,

06:15.2

medyo challenging din yun.

06:16.2

So,

06:17.2

yes,

06:18.1

I'm seriously considering it,

06:19.2

but,

06:20.2

ah,

06:21.2

we have not made a final decision.

06:22.2

And when we do,

06:23.2

the,

06:24.2

we will make that announcement

06:25.2

at the right time.

06:26.2

Yun palang ano,

06:27.2

sir,

06:28.2

I remember yung campaign niya,

06:29.2

no?

06:30.2

Although,

06:31.2

you and VP Lenny fell short,

06:32.2

ah,

06:33.2

doon sa 2022 elections,

06:35.2

merong silver lining,

06:36.2

no?

06:37.2

Yung organic support

06:38.2

behind your tandem,

06:39.2

yung mga,

06:40.2

inlaki ng taong

06:41.2

uma-attend ng mga rallies,

06:42.2

no?

06:43.2

Organic yung lahat,

06:44.2

no?

06:45.2

Hindi siya hakot.

06:46.2

Tapos,

06:47.1

today,

06:48.2

she got,

06:49.2

ah,

06:50.2

around 15 million votes.

06:51.2

Kayo ba,

06:52.2

nakalimutan ko,

06:53.2

ilan yung nakuha niyo?

06:54.2

About nine.

06:55.2

Nine.

06:56.2

Malaki pa rin yan,

06:57.2

no?

06:58.2

From,

06:59.2

ah,

07:00.2

zero percent.

07:01.2

Yun nga.

07:02.2

Yun nga.

07:03.2

The fact na nakuha niyo yung big numbers na yan,

07:04.2

15 and nine.

07:05.2

Ang madalas ko rin madinig,

07:06.2

no?

07:07.2

Although,

07:08.2

ito rin tanong ko,

07:09.2

asa na ba yan?

07:10.2

Yung nag-galvanize yung support

07:11.2

during that very brief period.

07:12.2

Kasi yung mga nagsasabi,

07:13.2

nag-dissipate na,

07:14.2

sabi ng iba naman,

07:15.2

hindi,

07:16.1

mag-provide an alternative dito sa

07:18.2

nag-aaway na unity forces.

07:21.2

07:22.2

I think,

07:23.2

nandiyan pa yan.

07:24.2

Ah,

07:25.2

but,

07:26.2

siyempre,

07:27.2

leadership does,

07:28.2

cannot operate in a,

07:29.2

does not operate in a vacuum.

07:30.2

Pag wala yung leadership,

07:31.2

di ba,

07:32.2

ah,

07:33.2

ah,

07:34.2

madi-dissipate yan.

07:35.2

So,

07:36.2

and I think,

07:37.2

ah,

07:38.2

as far as the voters are concerned,

07:40.2

you know,

07:41.2

when,

07:42.2

when we speak of leadership,

07:43.2

it's really elections.

07:44.2

Yung political leadership,

07:45.2

di ba,

07:46.2

it's not a capturing imagination.

07:47.2

Sa halalan.

07:48.2

More than,

07:49.2

unfortunately,

07:50.2

more than issues,

07:51.2

di ba?

07:52.2

Mas folk,

07:53.2

mas namamobilize

07:54.2

at tumataya

07:55.2

ah,

07:56.2

pag alam nilang nandyan na yung halalan.

07:58.2

So,

07:59.2

I think,

08:00.2

nariyan pa sila.

08:01.2

Ah,

08:02.2

kailangan lang ma-inspire.

08:03.2

Kailangan lang,

08:04.2

ah,

08:05.2

in fact,

08:06.2

pag umiikot ako,

08:07.2

ako ah,

08:08.2

this is,

08:09.2

that was my fourth campaign as a candidate.

08:11.2

My seventh as,

08:12.2

ah,

08:13.2

including campaign manager.

08:15.2

Ah,

08:16.2

national campaign.

08:17.2

I've never seen

08:18.2

this kind of

08:19.2

ah,

08:20.2

voter connection

08:21.2

with national candidates

08:22.2

in the past.

08:23.2

Never.

08:24.2

Ibig sabihin,

08:25.2

noon,

08:26.2

after the elections,

08:27.2

tapos na.

08:28.2

Di ba?

08:29.2

Ngayon,

08:31.2

dalawang taon na,

08:32.2

parang kahapon lang yung eleksyon,

08:33.2

doon sa mga nakausap ko eh.

08:35.2

Just the other day,

08:36.2

ah,

08:37.2

yes,

08:38.2

just the other day,

08:39.2

nakita ko sa lobby,

08:40.2

sinabi,

08:41.2

you know,

08:42.2

nandun kami sa,

08:43.2

ano,

08:44.3

we were in,

08:45.0

doon kami na-assign

08:46.1

sa Blue Ridge

08:47.1

kasi nandun ang bahay ng parents namin.

08:49.1

Minobilize namin yung mga tao.

08:51.1

And this was just two,

08:52.1

two,

08:53.1

three days ago.

08:54.1

Na,

08:55.1

parang kahapon lang yung eleksyon.

08:57.1

In other words,

08:58.1

yung investment,

08:59.1

di ba,

09:00.1

napaka-invested

09:01.1

nung ating mga voters.

09:02.1

So,

09:03.1

I believe they're still there.

09:04.1

Noong Pasko,

09:05.1

ah,

09:06.1

nag-dinner kami ng anak ko.

09:07.1

Si Miguel,

09:08.1

ah,

09:09.1

father and son na dinner kami.

09:11.1

Diyan,

09:12.1

sa may Greenbelt.

09:13.2

May lumapit sa akin eh.

09:14.2

Sabi niya,

09:14.9

alam mo,

09:16.0

atinista ako

09:17.0

tsaka wala akong bilib sa iyo noon eh.

09:19.0

Kasi,

09:19.5

lasal ka,

09:20.0

Ateneo.

09:21.0

Pero,

09:22.0

tayo doon sa,

09:23.0

and this was just last December,

09:25.0

and tayo doon sa kampanya.

09:26.0

Tapos,

09:27.0

tinuro pa niya yung anak ko.

09:28.0

Yours,

09:29.0

father.

09:30.0

He is our hero.

09:31.0

So,

09:32.0

ganoong katindi yung naging,

09:34.0

sabihin na natin,

09:35.0

impact

09:36.0

nung last election sa kanila.

09:38.0

Which is to say,

09:39.0

therefore,

09:40.0

na nandyan pa yan.

09:41.0

Kailangan lang talagang mapakilos.

09:44.0

So,

09:45.0

yes,

09:46.0

hindi pa tayo tapos.

09:47.0

And,

09:48.0

we are working on galvanizing efforts

09:52.0

for,

09:53.0

you know,

09:54.0

both 2025,

09:55.0

2028,

09:56.0

and beyond.

09:57.0

Ang tanong siguro,

09:59.0

ano yung mag-spark uli?

10:01.0

Ano yung magti-trigger?

10:02.0

O sino mag-i-inspire?

10:03.0

Kasi,

10:04.0

si VP Lenny mukhang

10:07.0

lilo siya ngayon, no?

10:08.0

Iba yung pinagkakabalahan.

10:10.0

Iba yung focus.

10:11.0

In the meantime,

10:12.0

I'm sure,

10:13.0

nadidinig niya rin yung conversations na ganito, no?

10:14.0

Would it be wise for the legit opposition?

10:17.0

Pasensya na kay Laico binabanggit yung legit

10:19.0

because hindi pwedeng si Duterte yung opposition.

10:22.0

Okay.

10:23.0

May mga nagsasabi,

10:25.0

should the legit opposition

10:27.0

look for their own populist?

10:30.0

Or should they

10:32.0

play a very long waiting game

10:34.0

and harness someone from within?

10:35.0

Ang konteksta po niyan,

10:36.0

diretsihin ko na.

10:37.0

May iba akong mga nakakausap

10:38.0

from the legit opposition.

10:40.0

They're looking at someone like Rapi Tulfo

10:42.1

dahil maganda yung numero.

10:43.1

Okay.

10:44.0

Diba?

10:45.0

I mean kayo,

10:46.0

anong thoughts niya sa ganyan?

10:47.0

Kumuha na lang isa pang popular

10:48.0

or populist even?

10:49.0

Well, I said this before, no?

10:52.0

Bago pa naging presidente si Pino,

10:55.0

sabi ko,

10:56.0

because by that time,

10:58.0

I was already in my ninth year in the Senate.

11:00.0

So, almost a decade of national political intramurals.

11:06.0

How you win kasi will determine how you govern.

11:10.0

So, I'm very wary of shortcuts.

11:13.0

Kung ikaw ay nanalo by compromising

11:20.1

to the point na hindi mo nakilala yung kausap mong nasasalabin.

11:26.2

Diba?

11:27.2

So, I'm wary of shortcuts

11:29.2

because how you win will determine how you govern.

11:32.2

So, but in the end, sabi ko,

11:36.2

when the students are ready,

11:38.2

sabi nga nung isang philosopher,

11:40.2

the teacher will come.

11:42.2

So,

11:43.0

basta tayo maghanda lang.

11:46.2

You know,

11:48.2

isang halimbawa is si Pino.

11:51.2

Nobody expected.

11:53.2

Nobody even thought Pino would run for president.

11:56.2

Diba?

11:57.2

So,

11:58.2

yun.

11:59.2

But,

12:00.2

yun.

12:01.2

Diba yung plano ng tao at ng politiko?

12:04.2

Iba ang plano ng destiny.

12:06.2

So,

12:07.2

we will see.

12:08.2

We will see.

12:09.2

But to answer your question,

12:12.1

I think,

12:13.3

I do not agree with shortcuts.

12:16.3

In fact, compromises are why we are where we are today.

12:24.3

Diba?

12:25.3

So, kumbaga,

12:26.3

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again

12:29.3

and then expecting a different result.

12:31.3

Diba nga?

12:32.3

So, if we keep compromising and we keep,

12:35.3

diba,

12:36.3

eh,

12:37.3

kumuha na lang tayo ng bato,

12:38.4

pokpok natin sa ulo natin

12:40.2

kasi baka ganun din ang magiging result.

12:42.1

So,

12:43.1

I hope I answered your question.

12:45.1

How we win determines how we will govern.

12:48.1

So,

12:49.1

we have to win

12:51.1

with our,

12:52.1

you know,

12:53.1

with our souls intact.

12:55.1

Well said.

12:56.1

You most definitely answered my question, sir.

12:59.1

Napakalinaw.

13:00.1

Nagigets ko yung konteksto perfectly.

13:03.1

Okay?

13:04.1

And that note,

13:05.1

maraming maraming salamat,

13:06.1

Senator Kiko.

13:07.1

Hindi pa po ito yung huling pag-uusap natin, no?

13:09.1

Promise?

13:10.1

Mag-uusap pa tayo.

13:11.1

Yes. Yes.

13:12.0

Tawagan lang.

13:13.0

Tawagan lang.

13:14.0

Thank you.

13:15.0

Thank you, Christian,

13:16.0

and sa viewers and listeners.

13:17.0

Sabi nga, hindi pa tayo tapos.

13:18.0

Maraming salamat.

13:19.0

Thank you.

13:20.0

Maraming salamat, sir.

13:21.0

Sige pa.

13:22.0

Ayan po,

13:23.0

si former Senator Kiko Pangilinan,

13:24.0

nakasama po natin.

13:25.0

Kung nagustuhan niyo po itong video na ito,

13:26.0

pakilike at share na lang po

13:27.0

para mas parahin po makakita at makapanood.

13:28.0

Kung gusto niyo po makibalita,

13:29.0

follow niyo na rin po ako sa aking mga social media accounts

13:30.0

na nakasulat po sa screen.

13:31.0

So,

13:32.0

hindi pa po ito makakita at makapanood.

13:33.0

Kung gusto niyo po makibalita,

13:33.9

follow niyo na rin po ako sa aking mga social media accounts

13:34.9

na nakasulat po sa screen.

13:35.9

Pwede rin po kayo magpadala ng super thanks,

13:36.9

super likes,

13:37.9

super chat,

13:38.9

at super stickers sa YouTube,

13:39.9

saka Facebook stars po.

13:40.9

Alam niyo po,

13:41.9

malayo po ang mararating ito

13:42.9

para makagawa pa po kami

13:43.9

ng mas maraming video

13:44.9

na makatutulong po

13:45.9

sa pagpapakalat ng tamang impormasyon

13:46.9

para sa bawat Pilipino.

13:47.9

Kada like, subscribe, follow, at share

13:48.9

ay pagsuporta po

13:49.9

sa tunay na independent journey.

13:50.9

So,

13:52.0

hindi pa po tayo tapos.

13:53.0

So,

13:54.1

hindi pa po tayo tapos.

13:55.1

So,

13:56.2

hindi pa po tayo tapos.

13:57.3

So,

13:58.3

hindi pa po tayo tapos.

13:59.4

Maraming maraming salamat po.

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