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Incidentally, sa akin personally, marami nagtatanong din at nakikita ko po online.

Ano bang planan nyo sa 2025?

Kasi ngayon, ang konteksto po natin, biyak na biyak yung UNITEAM.

Miski nagpa-plastikan si Sarah at si Bongbong, alam natin, biyak na biyak.

Pinaparesign si Bongbong Marcos ng tatay ni Sarah Duterte, sampu ng mga alipores nila.

So despite that, si Sarah nasa gabinete pa rin.

Ang madalas na nakukuha ko punta dito sa programa, nasa na ba yung legit na oposisyon kesa naman si Duterte yung nag-aasta ang oposisyon?

So ano po ba ang plano as far as you're concerned?

Well, you know, talagang makikita mo naman na itong UNITEAM na pinag-uusapan nila, wala na uwi sa pako.

Kaya nga, yung pangakong na uwi sa pako.

Which already gives you a sense na ano ba talaga ang mga layunin nito?

At nakakalungkot.

So ang ano dyan, is there a, actually the question is, meron bang puwang for an alternative to both?

Pretty much, di ba?

Kung baga, a third poll.

We will see.

You know, I tried to do that.

Sa totoo lang.

2007.

If you will recall, 2001, pinag-resign si Erap, di ba?

Sa EDSA 2.

Dumating si, pumalit si Gloria.

In 2005, dahil sumabog yung Hello Garcia, pinag-re-resign din si Gloria.

In other words, both were tainted, di ba?

Ika nga.

So, kung both were tainted.

But there was an opportunity for neither of the two, di ba?

Kung baga, none of the above, di ba?

For 2007.

Kasi 2007 midterm eh.

At yun sana ang gusto kong mangyari.

Na hindi Erap, hindi GMA.

Kung hindi a third force, di ba?

In fact, we were working overtime.

Noong mga panahon na yun.

Dahil apat kami sa Wednesday group na kong tawagin.

Na,

na re-electionist.

Ako,

si Ralph,

si Joker Arroyo,

Ralph Recto,

at si Manny Villar.

Di ba?

By that time, 2007,

vice president na si Nolly de Castro.

So, eh kasama siya sa aming grupo noon.

So, ako,

ang sinasabi ko,

huwag tayong mag-admin,

huwag tayong mag-oposisyo.

Di ba?

Magbigay tayo ng alternative sa dalawa.

And, at some point,

talagang,

ito,

ito,

kumbaga,

very appealing to,

to all.

No?

In fact, sabi nga ni,

naalala ko noon eh,

parang,

we,

after every meeting,

agreed na eh.

Di ba?

Hindi na admin,

hindi na opo.

Independent kami.

Di ba?

Kaso,

for some reason,

and I'm sure,

na now,

in hindsight,

ayaw yan

noong GMA camp.

Siyempre, di ba?

Ayaw din yan

noong Arab camp.

Di ba?

Kasi,

teka muna,

eh, kami ang,

kami ang administration,

kami ang oposisyon.

So, they worked hard,

really,

para hindi mangyari

yung third poll.

So, ang nauwi,

ah,

ayun,

ako na lang,

yung hindi nag-ERAP

at hindi nag-GMA.

Kasi, si Ralph and Joker

went with the admin,

and then si Manny

went with the oposisyon.

So,

that was the closest

that could have been,

no, eh,

hindi,

parang an alternative

to both

those claiming to be

oposisyon and admin,

di ba?

Or two forces.

So, we'll see.

So, ngayon?

So, ngayon?

Meron mang puwang para sa legit?

Well, alam mo,

maaga pa.

Sabi nga nila,

marami pang mangyayari.

The election is still

over a year away.

Things can get worse

or things can

worse

for,

for both,

ah,

the,

you know,

ah, Duterte

and, ah,

Marcos.

Or it can get better.

We don't know.

But we will,

for me,

that is an option.

Di ba?

Isang opsyon yan.

Hindi,

hindi

Sara,

hindi

Marcos.

Ah,

pero,

depende sa tao yan.

Ah,

at sa mga leader,

siyempre.

So, it is an option.

Ah,

we will see.

But I'm sure,

what,

even,

ah,

kumbaga,

I'm sure both,

ah,

Marcos and,

ah,

both Duterte

would not want that kind

of alternative.

Hmm.

Yung pakala nyo rin pala

lumalabas sa mga

pre-election surveys,

no?

Kayo ba,

have you made up your mind

whether to return to the Senate

or not?

Well, I'm seriously

weighing it.

No?

Marami rin ang nagsasabing,

di ba,

I should go back.

In fact,

yun yung original plan ko.

Hindi ko naman planon

talaga yung

Vice President.

Ah,

ah,

kumbaga,

kung last minute yung decision

ni Vice President Lenin nun,

eh,

last 15 seconds

ako.

Dahil,

siyempre,

magkatapos,

kung

naghanap siya ng Vice President

after siya nag-decide,

hindi ako yung na,

na,

natanungan.

So, hindi ko talaga mawala.

Naiba lahat ng plano, no?

Naiba yung plano

pati sa inyo.

Exactly.

But,

you know,

duty, di ba?

I have no regrets, no?

Ah,

and sabi ko nga,

kung ako eh,

ah,

if I were asked

to go over again,

yes.

Kasi nga,

grabe din naman yung

outpouring of support.

And that's why hindi pa talaga

tapos, no?

Ah,

but I am weighing,

ah,

seriously weighing it.

And that's why I'm seriously weighing it.

Because, ah,

we're also looking at the numbers,

no?

Ah,

tingnan natin.

Kasi mahirap din yung,

yung,

ah,

di ba,

lalaban ka tapos,

ah,

hindi ka pala mananalo,

di ba?

Ah,

medyo challenging din yun.

So,

yes,

I'm seriously considering it,

but,

ah,

we have not made a final decision.

And when we do,

the,

we will make that announcement

at the right time.

Yun palang ano,

sir,

I remember yung campaign niya,

no?

Although,

you and VP Lenny fell short,

ah,

doon sa 2022 elections,

merong silver lining,

no?

Yung organic support

behind your tandem,

yung mga,

inlaki ng taong

uma-attend ng mga rallies,

no?

Organic yung lahat,

no?

Hindi siya hakot.

Tapos,

today,

she got,

ah,

around 15 million votes.

Kayo ba,

nakalimutan ko,

ilan yung nakuha niyo?

About nine.

Nine.

Malaki pa rin yan,

no?

From,

ah,

zero percent.

Yun nga.

Yun nga.

The fact na nakuha niyo yung big numbers na yan,

15 and nine.

Ang madalas ko rin madinig,

no?

Although,

ito rin tanong ko,

asa na ba yan?

Yung nag-galvanize yung support

during that very brief period.

Kasi yung mga nagsasabi,

nag-dissipate na,

sabi ng iba naman,

hindi,

mag-provide an alternative dito sa

nag-aaway na unity forces.

I,

I think,

nandiyan pa yan.

Ah,

but,

siyempre,

leadership does,

cannot operate in a,

does not operate in a vacuum.

Pag wala yung leadership,

di ba,

ah,

ah,

madi-dissipate yan.

So,

and I think,

ah,

as far as the voters are concerned,

you know,

when,

when we speak of leadership,

it's really elections.

Yung political leadership,

di ba,

it's not a capturing imagination.

Sa halalan.

More than,

unfortunately,

more than issues,

di ba?

Mas folk,

mas namamobilize

at tumataya

ah,

pag alam nilang nandyan na yung halalan.

So,

I think,

nariyan pa sila.

Ah,

kailangan lang ma-inspire.

Kailangan lang,

ah,

in fact,

pag umiikot ako,

ako ah,

this is,

that was my fourth campaign as a candidate.

My seventh as,

ah,

including campaign manager.

Ah,

national campaign.

I've never seen

this kind of

ah,

voter connection

with national candidates

in the past.

Never.

Ibig sabihin,

noon,

after the elections,

tapos na.

Di ba?

Ngayon,

dalawang taon na,

parang kahapon lang yung eleksyon,

doon sa mga nakausap ko eh.

Just the other day,

ah,

yes,

just the other day,

nakita ko sa lobby,

sinabi,

you know,

nandun kami sa,

ano,

we were in,

doon kami na-assign

sa Blue Ridge

kasi nandun ang bahay ng parents namin.

Minobilize namin yung mga tao.

And this was just two,

two,

three days ago.

Na,

parang kahapon lang yung eleksyon.

In other words,

yung investment,

di ba,

napaka-invested

nung ating mga voters.

So,

I believe they're still there.

Noong Pasko,

ah,

nag-dinner kami ng anak ko.

Si Miguel,

ah,

father and son na dinner kami.

Diyan,

sa may Greenbelt.

May lumapit sa akin eh.

Sabi niya,

alam mo,

atinista ako

tsaka wala akong bilib sa iyo noon eh.

Kasi,

lasal ka,

Ateneo.

Pero,

tayo doon sa,

and this was just last December,

and tayo doon sa kampanya.

Tapos,

tinuro pa niya yung anak ko.

Yours,

father.

He is our hero.

So,

ganoong katindi yung naging,

sabihin na natin,

impact

nung last election sa kanila.

Which is to say,

therefore,

na nandyan pa yan.

Kailangan lang talagang mapakilos.

So,

yes,

hindi pa tayo tapos.

And,

we are working on galvanizing efforts

for,

you know,

both 2025,

2028,

and beyond.

Ang tanong siguro,

ano yung mag-spark uli?

Ano yung magti-trigger?

O sino mag-i-inspire?

Kasi,

si VP Lenny mukhang

lilo siya ngayon, no?

Iba yung pinagkakabalahan.

Iba yung focus.

In the meantime,

I'm sure,

nadidinig niya rin yung conversations na ganito, no?

Would it be wise for the legit opposition?

Pasensya na kay Laico binabanggit yung legit

because hindi pwedeng si Duterte yung opposition.

Okay.

May mga nagsasabi,

should the legit opposition

look for their own populist?

Or should they

play a very long waiting game

and harness someone from within?

Ang konteksta po niyan,

diretsihin ko na.

May iba akong mga nakakausap

from the legit opposition.

They're looking at someone like Rapi Tulfo

dahil maganda yung numero.

Okay.

Diba?

I mean kayo,

anong thoughts niya sa ganyan?

Kumuha na lang isa pang popular

or populist even?

Well, I said this before, no?

Bago pa naging presidente si Pino,

sabi ko,

because by that time,

I was already in my ninth year in the Senate.

So, almost a decade of national political intramurals.

How you win kasi will determine how you govern.

So, I'm very wary of shortcuts.

Kung ikaw ay nanalo by compromising

to the point na hindi mo nakilala yung kausap mong nasasalabin.

Diba?

So, I'm wary of shortcuts

because how you win will determine how you govern.

So, but in the end, sabi ko,

when the students are ready,

sabi nga nung isang philosopher,

the teacher will come.

So,

basta tayo maghanda lang.

You know,

isang halimbawa is si Pino.

Nobody expected.

Nobody even thought Pino would run for president.

Diba?

So,

yun.

But,

yun.

Diba yung plano ng tao at ng politiko?

Iba ang plano ng destiny.

So,

we will see.

We will see.

But to answer your question,

I think,

I do not agree with shortcuts.

In fact, compromises are why we are where we are today.

Diba?

So, kumbaga,

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again

and then expecting a different result.

Diba nga?

So, if we keep compromising and we keep,

diba,

eh,

kumuha na lang tayo ng bato,

pokpok natin sa ulo natin

kasi baka ganun din ang magiging result.

So,

I hope I answered your question.

How we win determines how we will govern.

So,

we have to win

with our,

you know,

with our souls intact.

Well said.

You most definitely answered my question, sir.

Napakalinaw.

Nagigets ko yung konteksto perfectly.

Okay?

And that note,

maraming maraming salamat,

Senator Kiko.

Hindi pa po ito yung huling pag-uusap natin, no?

Promise?

Mag-uusap pa tayo.

Yes. Yes.

Tawagan lang.

Tawagan lang.

Thank you.

Thank you, Christian,

and sa viewers and listeners.

Sabi nga, hindi pa tayo tapos.

Maraming salamat.

Thank you.

Maraming salamat, sir.

Sige pa.

Ayan po,

si former Senator Kiko Pangilinan,

nakasama po natin.

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