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Bakit namamayagpag ang political dynasties sa Pilipinas?
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A group of UP Law alumni is asking the Supreme Court to compel Congress to pass a law defining and prohibiting political dynasties. Bakit nga ba wala pa ring batas tungkol dito kahit malinaw sa 1987 Constitution na ipinagbabawal ito? Catch our live episode with one of the petitioners, lawyer Rico Domingo, former president of the Philippine Bar Association.
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00:00.0
Thank you for watching!
00:30.0
20 dito po sa ating Facts First Podcast.
00:33.4
Ang ganda po na pag-uusapan natin, no?
00:35.0
Nung nilabas po natin yung teaser kanina sa social media,
00:38.6
marami na po agad na nag-react, no?
00:40.3
I think this is one of the issues that a lot of Filipinos are passionate about.
00:46.4
Ito pong political dynasties.
00:48.6
Dahil nagkalat po, as you all know, yung political dynasties dito sa Pilipinas
00:52.6
across various levels of government.
00:55.9
In particular, of course, the legislature.
00:57.7
I think there was this study.
00:59.3
By a political scientist, Dr. Julio Tijanqui,
01:03.1
I think as of 2017, 70% na ating kongreso ay binubuo na mga politiko
01:10.7
na galing po sa mga political clans or dynasties.
01:14.4
That was before, no? A few years ago.
01:17.0
Ang suspecha po natin, mas lumaki, mas tumaba,
01:20.4
at lumawak ang impluensya ng ating mga political dynasties.
01:24.5
Ngayon, meron din po, kung naaalala nyo,
01:26.2
you can also Google this, no?
01:27.5
There was this study by the Ateneo,
01:29.3
School of Government.
01:31.9
Isa po sa mga authors yan, si Professor Ronald Mendoza.
01:36.5
Pinag-aaralan po yung epekto noong fat dynasties doon po sa kahirapan.
01:41.8
At dumalabas po ron, merong direct relation.
01:44.5
Yung mas mataba yung dynastia sa isang lugar,
01:47.9
mas mahirap yung lugar na yon.
01:49.4
For instance, probinsya.
01:51.3
Ngayon, nilalatag ko lang po yung issue,
01:53.0
para meron po tayong leveling ng ating pag-uusapan ngayong gabi.
01:57.3
Alam nyo po, sa 1987 Constitution,
01:59.3
natin, sa state policy,
02:01.7
bawal po yung political dynasties.
02:05.0
Kaso, hindi po siya self-executory.
02:08.0
Ibig sabihin, kailangan pa rin po na maglabas
02:10.5
o magpasa ng batas ang Kongreso,
02:12.8
yung Senado at saka mababang kapulungan
02:14.6
ng tinatawag po na enabling law.
02:17.1
Okay?
02:17.6
Para ma-operationalize po
02:19.1
yung nakalagay na probisyon sa ating 1987 Constitution.
02:23.2
Ang tanong, since 1987,
02:25.2
eh bakit wala pa rin po tayong batas
02:27.3
na nagde-define at nag-batas?
02:29.3
Ang mga ban, once and for all,
02:31.3
sa political dynasties.
02:32.3
Habang in the meantime,
02:33.3
nagtatabaan po yung ating mga political dynasties
02:36.3
diyan sa Kongreso.
02:38.3
O lalayo pa ba tayo?
02:39.3
Example natin, Presidente ng Pilipinas.
02:41.3
Ang anak, congressman.
02:43.3
Ang pinsan, house speaker.
02:45.3
Oo.
02:46.3
Ang second case niya, DFA.
02:48.3
Sekretary.
02:50.3
Lalayo pa ba tayo?
02:52.3
Marami yan, no?
02:53.3
Dati example.
02:54.3
Duterte, dating presidente.
02:57.3
Anak, vice president.
02:58.3
Kailan taon sila sa Davao?
03:00.3
More than 20 years.
03:01.3
We can cite so many examples, really.
03:04.3
Ang tanong, eh bakit nga po ganun yung nangyari?
03:06.3
Now, meron pong isang grupo ng mga alumni
03:10.3
ng University of the Philippines College of Law
03:12.3
na nag-file po ng petitions sa Supreme Court,
03:15.3
basically asking the Supreme Court
03:17.3
to compel Congress
03:19.3
to once and for all
03:21.3
define and prohibit political dynasties.
03:24.3
Yung po yung pag-uusapan natin ngayong gabi,
03:26.3
ayoko nang patagalin.
03:27.3
Ang ating pong guest ngayong gabi
03:28.3
ay isa po sa mga petitioners.
03:29.3
I'd like to welcome to our program
03:33.3
the former president of the Philippine Bar Association,
03:36.3
si Atty. Rico Domingo.
03:38.3
Magandang gabi, Atty.
03:39.3
And thank you for joining us dito po sa Facts First.
03:42.3
Magandang gabi, Christian.
03:44.3
And good evening also to the listeners and viewers as well.
03:48.3
Sir, pakiexplain nga po.
03:50.3
How exactly do you think, based on your petition,
03:55.3
can the Supreme Court compel Congress
03:57.3
to pass this anti-political dynasty law?
04:00.3
Yes, it can.
04:02.3
As a matter of fact,
04:03.3
it can compel because
04:06.3
the Section 26, Article 2
04:09.3
is mandatory.
04:11.3
Nakalagay dito, Section 26, Article 2
04:14.3
ng ating 1987 Constitution.
04:17.3
The state shall,
04:19.3
ibig sabihin na imperative, mandatory,
04:21.3
guarantee equal access to opportunities
04:23.3
for public service
04:25.3
and prohibit political dynasties
04:27.3
as may be defined by law.
04:30.3
The Constitution itself,
04:32.3
in this particular section,
04:35.3
outlaws political dynasties,
04:39.3
prohibit political dynasties.
04:41.3
Ang kailangan lamang ay definition
04:44.3
kung ano ang political dynasties.
04:46.3
Okay.
04:48.3
So, walang choice ang Kongreso
04:50.3
kung di magpasa ng batas
04:52.3
laban sa political dynasties.
04:54.3
Ang tanong po,
04:55.3
hanggang kailan sila pwedeng magpabanjing-banjing?
05:00.3
Kasi more than 30 years na po, ano?
05:02.3
Wala pong lumulusot na anti-political dynasty
05:04.3
law sa Kongreso.
05:06.3
Well, to borrow your language,
05:07.3
very colorful,
05:08.3
pabanjing-banjing sila ng 37 years
05:11.3
since the enactment of the 1987 Constitution.
05:16.3
At dapat niyan,
05:17.3
right there and there,
05:18.3
if they're doing their job
05:19.3
and the duty
05:20.3
that they're following the mandate
05:21.3
of the Constitution,
05:23.3
dapat niyan,
05:24.3
as early as after the enactment
05:26.3
of the Constitution,
05:27.3
gumawa na sila ng batas.
05:30.3
Diba?
05:31.3
Dapat i-define na lang
05:32.3
ang political dynasties.
05:33.3
Up to now,
05:34.3
after 37 years,
05:36.3
they have not done so.
05:38.3
That's why we have this petition.
05:40.3
Pakiexplain nga po yung
05:41.3
Mandamos petition niyo, no?
05:43.3
Ano ba yung nature niyan
05:44.3
kung saan pwedeng i-compel
05:46.3
ng hukuman ng isang ahensya
05:48.3
ng gobyerno o sangay?
05:49.3
Pwede bang gamitin po yan
05:50.3
sa Kongreso
05:51.3
to do its job?
05:52.3
Pwede po yan.
05:53.3
Pwede po yan
05:54.3
because they're supposed to be
05:55.3
doing their job.
05:56.3
Imperative.
05:57.3
Mandatory job.
05:58.3
If they're not,
05:59.3
if they have neglected
06:01.3
performing their job
06:02.3
under the Constitution,
06:04.3
then they can be subject
06:05.3
to a writ of Mandamos.
06:07.3
Hindi po ba yan
06:09.3
pwedeng i-cite ng Kongreso?
06:12.3
Teka, co-equal bodies tayo dito.
06:14.3
Magkapantay tayo,
06:15.3
kayo judiciary,
06:16.3
kami legislature.
06:18.3
Sino kayo para
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sabihan kami
06:20.3
kung anong dapat namin gawin?
06:22.3
Well, kung ganila lang
06:23.3
ang reasoning nila,
06:24.3
medyo malabnaw yata yun
06:26.3
because the Constitution
06:29.3
actually commands
06:31.3
and orders them
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to enact a law
06:33.3
along that line.
06:34.3
So the supreme
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the supreme
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document that should compel them
06:43.3
is the Constitution itself,
06:45.3
not the Supreme Court.
06:46.3
The Supreme Court will simply
06:48.3
ask them to abide
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by the constitutional mandate.
06:53.3
E kung hindi po nila gawin?
06:55.3
Well, they'll be probably
06:57.3
cited for contempt.
07:00.3
By the Supreme Court?
07:01.3
By the Supreme Court.
07:03.3
Okay. So technically,
07:04.3
sino po respondents dito
07:05.3
sa inyong petisyon?
07:06.3
House Speaker
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tsaka Senate President?
07:08.3
Opo, tsaka Kongreso itself.
07:11.3
Okay.
07:12.3
Can you walk us
07:13.3
through the process?
07:14.3
So nag-file kayo ng petisyon
07:15.3
and then pagkocommentin po, no?
07:17.3
Yung respondents
07:19.3
and then what else po?
07:20.3
What will happen?
07:21.3
Then the court will probably call
07:23.3
for an oral argument
07:25.3
at their discretion
07:27.3
and perhaps will have to ask us
07:30.3
what will be the issues
07:31.3
and what are arguments
07:32.3
and the Supreme Court,
07:33.3
the Honorable Supreme Court,
07:34.3
will decide accordingly.
07:36.3
Hopefully,
07:37.3
they will take cognizance
07:38.3
and give us our petition due course
07:41.3
because of its transcendental
07:44.3
issue that we have posed
07:46.3
and therefore,
07:47.3
the Supreme Court will issue
07:50.3
a judgment along that line
07:52.3
and hopefully,
07:53.3
it will be an en banc decision
07:54.3
which is doctrinal in nature.
07:56.3
Doctrinal.
07:57.3
Pero pwede rin ba,
07:58.3
siyempre,
07:59.3
dun sa realm of possibilities,
08:01.3
pwedeng ibalik yan?
08:02.3
Iba to sa Kongreso?
08:03.3
Teka, labas kami dyan.
08:04.3
Let Congress make that decision
08:07.3
if and when?
08:08.3
Pero kung gagawin natin dun,
08:11.3
anong remedy ng mga tao?
08:13.3
The sovereign people
08:14.3
who enacted,
08:15.3
who enacted
08:16.3
and approved the Constitution,
08:19.3
the supreme organ of our country.
08:23.3
Nakalagay yan sa state policy natin.
08:26.3
Yung Section 26
08:27.3
is one of the 28 or so sections
08:31.3
in that particular Article 2
08:35.3
and that is a mandatory,
08:38.3
mandatory command
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of the Constitution itself.
08:41.3
So, hindi dapat babaliwalain
08:44.3
ng mga branches of the government there.
08:47.3
For example,
08:48.3
ang Supreme Court
08:49.3
has already issued mandatory
08:51.3
or writ of execution
08:53.3
against the executive branch.
08:56.3
Marami po tayong na-encounter na ganyan.
08:58.3
Why can't the Supreme Court now
09:01.3
issue a writ of mandamus
09:02.3
against the legislature?
09:05.3
Commanding it to enact a law
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as mandated
09:08.3
and as imperatively mandated
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by the Constitution.
09:12.3
To enact a law,
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defining and prohibiting
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political dynasties.
09:18.3
Atty. May,
09:19.3
also, no, no,
09:20.3
why did you decide,
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you and your colleagues
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decided to file this petition
09:24.3
at this time?
09:25.3
Ano yung nag-trigger
09:26.3
or ano to?
09:27.3
Talagang frustrated lang kayo
09:28.3
over the years?
09:31.3
Alam mo, Christian,
09:32.3
kaming mga magkakapase,
09:35.3
very solid kami, no,
09:36.3
very close kami.
09:38.3
And one of my classmates
09:39.3
who is sight impaired,
09:42.3
ay nagsabi sa amin,
09:45.3
ito pa bang bulag pong namin kaklase
09:47.3
ang nagsabi pa sa amin,
09:48.3
si Atty. Wilfrido Trinidad.
09:51.3
At nakita niya,
09:53.3
nag-37 years na,
09:55.3
na walang nangyayari
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dito sa Section 26 Implementation.
09:59.3
Sabi niya,
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why don't we come up with a petition
10:01.3
for a writ of mandamus?
10:04.3
Sabi namin mga makakaklase,
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after our reunion
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somewhere,
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sabi namin,
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oo nga,
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malapit na tayo.
10:13.3
We are already at the last stage
10:14.3
of our legal practice.
10:16.3
Hindi ba natin kailangan utang natin
10:18.3
sa mga kababayan natin,
10:20.3
sa future generations,
10:21.3
sa ating mga anak?
10:23.3
Nabigyan sila ng heritage
10:26.3
na dapat ay magkaroon ng batas
10:30.3
na dapat ay sumususog
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sa constitutionally mandated
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and imperatively mandated
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na dapat ay prohibit
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ang political dynasties.
10:40.3
Alam naman po naman natin
10:42.3
kung bakit natin pinaprohibit
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ang dynasties na talakay na yan.
10:47.3
Sinabi mong mga kanina,
10:48.3
meron nang study
10:49.3
si Professor or Dr.
10:53.3
ng De La Salle
10:54.3
and of course,
10:55.3
the Ateneo School of Government.
10:57.3
Itong from fat to obese
10:59.3
political dynasties
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after the 2019 midterm elections.
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They're all documented.
11:05.3
We have empirical data, Christian,
11:08.3
that show that
11:09.3
the political dynasties
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are the root evil,
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the root cause
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of the bad governance
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as well as the underdevelopment
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of the country.
11:18.3
And we have not done that
11:20.3
to prohibit the political dynasties
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since 1987.
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In fact,
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the records of the Commission,
11:27.3
the Constitutional Commission will show
11:29.3
that's exactly what is the need
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for our country.
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That's why they inserted
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that Section 26,
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included that Section 26,
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Article 2,
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and Article 3
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of the Constitution
11:41.3
.
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The last time I interviewed
11:44.3
one of the members
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of the 1986 Constitutional Commission,
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si Atty. Christian Monsod,
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naiitanong ko rin po kasi yan,
11:51.3
Sir,
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ba't kasi hindi niyo
11:53.3
pa ginawang
11:54.3
self-executory
11:55.3
yung provision na yan?
11:56.3
Bakit
11:57.3
iniwan niyo pa
11:58.3
yung desisyon sa Kongreso
11:59.3
para i-define ko
12:00.3
ano ba yung political dynasties
12:02.3
para ma-eban sila
12:03.3
sa ating politika?
12:05.3
Ang sabi niya,
12:06.3
well,
12:07.3
They underestimated the greed for power of our politicians.
12:13.0
And true enough, talagang tumaba po ng tumaba yung mga dynasties.
12:16.6
Pati nga yung party system natin na hijack and na-bastardize nila.
12:20.5
Ang tanong ko po sa inyo, attorney, realistically,
12:24.5
paano makakapagpasa ng anti-political dynasty law
12:30.0
ang isang kongreso na infested, for lack of a better word,
12:35.0
infested by political dynasties?
12:37.6
Because if you think about it, that would be an existential threat to them.
12:44.0
Paano? Would be talagang malaking question mark yan.
12:48.2
For the past 37 years, hindi pa nila ginagawa yan.
12:52.3
But somehow, somebody has to compel them.
12:55.9
Because the Constitution is the supreme organ that should be followed.
13:00.6
And it says you should prohibit political dynasties.
13:03.9
Now, kung hindi nila tinutupad dyan ng kongreso for whatever reason that you have just stated,
13:11.1
na hindi na puro self-serving yan, marami siyang public of interest sa mga kongreso
13:15.0
because they're part of the political dynasties themselves,
13:18.0
most of them, if not all,
13:20.4
then ang tao na ang maguhusgal sa kanila.
13:23.9
Because the Constitution is the sovereign people's enactment.
13:28.9
Di ba ba? Ang Constitution, ang sovereign people, ang gumawa niyan.
13:33.9
Hindi ang kongreso.
13:36.0
Sinasabi ng Constitution, dapat i-prohibit ang political dynasties, Christian.
13:41.8
Maliwanag na maliwanag na imperative at mandatory ang command ng Constitution.
13:47.9
At hindi dapat yun ay binabaliwala ng kongreso.
13:52.1
Yung nga po eh. Yung context po ng tanong ko, sir, I completely understand where you're coming from.
13:57.5
Napakalina po yan sa Constitution. Pero realistically, for instance,
14:00.9
although in fairness naman, I think,
14:03.9
nasa pa yung lumusot sa Senado kesa dito sa mababang kapulungan.
14:07.1
Pero that's just my gut feel. Pwedeng mali po ako, no?
14:09.9
Kasi for instance, tingnan po natin yung composition ng Senado.
14:13.6
May mag-ina, Villar. May magkapatid, Alan and Pia Cayetano.
14:19.6
Magkapatid na naman, Jinggoy and JV.
14:22.6
Dati nga, nag-abot pa si Jinggoy at saka yung nanay niya, si Lo Ejercito.
14:26.8
Kung nanalo pa si Vice President Binay noong nakarang eleksyon,
14:30.0
I think he placed 13.
14:32.4
E di nag-abot pa sila na si Binay.
14:33.9
I mean, for a 24-seat chamber, ang dami magkakamag-anak.
14:39.6
So doon pa lang po sa Senado yan. E pupunta pa tayo sa House.
14:42.3
Yung Speaker mismo, di ba?
14:44.8
Belongs to a very fat dynasty.
14:47.9
Tapos yung mga Marcoses, nag-ugroom pa ng mga susunod sa kanila, for instance.
14:51.8
I mean, realistically po yung tanong ko.
14:55.2
Aside from the legal, that's a very clear issue.
14:58.4
Pero realistically, do you think Congress would be,
15:03.9
in their interest, to pass a law that would go against the interests of the political dynasties?
15:09.6
They would.
15:10.8
Because they're answerable to their constituents.
15:14.1
Remember, they are representatives of the people of their respective territories.
15:19.4
That they are supposed to be a congressman of, a governor of,
15:23.0
the palanggay of, the town of, or the city of.
15:27.1
So they are answerable to the people themselves.
15:29.4
That's why, Christian,
15:32.3
but we should heighten,
15:33.7
the awareness of the Filipino people,
15:36.0
the electorates,
15:37.4
na ito ay evil,
15:39.1
na nandito sa atin for 37 years.
15:41.2
So even before that,
15:42.3
that's why the Constitutional Commission put that,
15:45.7
Section 26, Article 2,
15:48.0
dapat ng mga tao mamulat na.
15:51.1
At sila ay mismo magsabi,
15:53.5
O, congressman,
15:55.4
matagal na po kayo dyan.
15:57.1
Mayon, matagal na po kayo dyan.
15:58.7
Wala po ba namang marunong at qualified
16:01.7
ng mga ibang,
16:03.7
kandidato so that we can change leadership
16:06.0
and hopefully have a better leadership in the future.
16:09.2
And not people belonging to the political minorities
16:12.9
who are monopolizing political power
16:16.2
and influencing the respective districts and territories.
16:19.2
That's exactly, we need to also tell the people,
16:23.5
kailangan na magkaroon ng spark plug dito
16:26.5
for the people to be able
16:28.9
to realize that they're being
16:32.1
shortchanged
16:33.2
by the representative and districts.
16:35.3
Because it is in the interest of these political dynasties
16:38.5
to keep the people poor.
16:41.1
Right, Christian?
16:42.9
So that during the election time,
16:45.3
these poor people,
16:46.8
their constituents who come to them
16:48.4
and would ask money
16:49.8
and resources from them.
16:52.2
And they want that to be perpetuated.
16:54.7
That condition to be perpetuated.
16:56.7
That's why we have
16:57.7
these political dynasties.
16:59.5
There's no competition whatsoever.
17:01.8
Ang dami-dami magagaling,
17:03.2
mga mga kandidato, talo
17:05.2
because wala silang pera,
17:07.0
wala silang influence,
17:08.2
at wala silang network.
17:10.2
That's exactly why Section 26, Article 2
17:13.1
was promulgated by the Commission
17:15.3
in 1987.
17:18.9
Ganda ng paliwanan niya,
17:20.0
Atty. Rico Domingo.
17:21.2
Yan po yung talagang root cause natin.
17:24.1
Nakadikit po sa political dynasties
17:25.9
sa mga viewers po natin,
17:27.2
yung issue ng political patronage
17:28.8
o yung tinatawag na clientelism.
17:31.3
Nararamdaman po natin yan,
17:32.5
na cross-levels,
17:33.2
of government.
17:34.0
Para bang yung Pilipino
17:35.0
nakatanghod sa mga politiko
17:36.4
for resources na galing din naman sa kanila.
17:39.2
That's another issue.
17:41.2
Ito po, sir.
17:41.8
Meron kayong katukayo.
17:43.7
Ay, hindi pala katukayo.
17:44.6
Sorry.
17:45.4
Kumpanyero.
17:47.1
Pinapatanong po.
17:47.9
He was eagerly awaiting
17:49.3
your appearance ito po sa ating programa.
17:52.1
Si Atty. Michael Henry Yusinko.
17:54.2
Ando rin po siya.
17:55.3
Senior fellow dyan
17:56.6
sa Ateneo Policy Center.
17:58.3
Interesting din yung tanong niya.
17:59.4
Sabi niya,
18:02.1
What if dumaan,
18:03.2
diba na lang
18:03.6
yung pag-enact ng isang batas
18:06.0
against political dynasties
18:07.5
dito sa People's Initiative?
18:10.1
Baka mas realistic daw yun
18:12.0
kesa idaan sa Pandamos.
18:16.5
Pwede yun.
18:17.5
That's an alternative.
18:18.6
But again,
18:19.8
that would be
18:20.6
in reality,
18:23.3
in practical terms,
18:24.5
sa Christian,
18:25.3
pwede yung People's Initiative naman.
18:27.3
Ginagalaw din
18:28.1
mga political dynasties yun.
18:30.3
So they will
18:31.2
they will craft
18:33.2
the design of the system
18:36.1
such that that will favor them.
18:38.9
So saan natin makikita yun?
18:40.3
Talo rin tayo.
18:42.0
At kaya dapat,
18:43.4
ang Honorable Supreme Court
18:44.8
will now step up
18:46.5
and issue the writ of Pandamos
18:49.3
para makita ng tao
18:51.4
merong nangyayari dito sa ating bansa
18:54.4
na puksuin natin
18:56.3
ang political dynasties
18:57.7
that is mandated
18:59.4
by the Constitution
19:01.1
imperatively
19:02.1
to be
19:03.0
enacted.
19:04.5
That law.
19:05.8
Dapat
19:06.2
pressure yun natin
19:07.9
ang Kongreso
19:09.3
magbatas.
19:10.7
Kung
19:10.9
pakita natin
19:12.1
kung ano sino magbaboto
19:13.5
sa political dynasties
19:14.9
law proposed bill
19:16.0
at anong nature
19:16.8
ng definition
19:17.8
ng political dynasties.
19:19.2
Pakita natin sa mga tao
19:20.9
sino ang mga
19:21.9
nagre-reject
19:24.3
ng proposal na yan.
19:25.8
Makikita natin
19:26.7
those who are
19:27.6
part of the
19:29.1
political dynasties
19:30.2
who would like to
19:31.1
perpetuate themselves
19:32.2
in power.
19:33.0
May influence.
19:33.9
Sila yun.
19:34.6
Makikita ng tao yun.
19:36.2
Sa next electoral contests
19:37.7
makikita ng mga tao
19:39.4
ito ang mga political dynasties.
19:41.8
Itong ating tinutukoy dito.
19:43.6
Itong pinoprohibit
19:44.6
ng saligang batas natin.
19:47.8
Kaso nga po
19:48.7
yung mga ganyang dynasties
19:50.0
hindi naman sila nahihiya dyan.
19:51.3
Nagmamalaki pa nga.
19:53.1
Pinaparada ba
19:53.8
ang susunod na mayor
19:55.0
sa ating lungsod.
19:56.3
Ang aking anak.
19:58.1
Alam na alam natin yan.
19:59.9
Christian,
20:00.6
pinaperpetuate yun
20:01.6
ang feudal system.
20:03.0
Na ating umiiral dati.
20:05.7
Feudalistic na
20:06.4
ang sistema natin.
20:07.9
It's only a modern day
20:09.3
feudalism.
20:10.9
Kaya dapat
20:11.3
puksuinan natin yan.
20:12.7
We are a democratic
20:13.6
polity.
20:14.8
Dapat puksuinan natin
20:16.1
yung political dynasties
20:17.3
to avoid the feudal system
20:19.2
that we are experiencing
20:20.5
right now.
20:21.7
At hindi lang yun.
20:23.4
Nakatuon din yan
20:24.3
sa corruption.
20:25.9
Bad governance.
20:26.8
Why?
20:27.4
Because kung ikaw
20:28.2
ay kongreso,
20:29.1
nasa kongreso,
20:30.0
syempre meron ka
20:30.7
mga allowances,
20:31.9
mga pidaf
20:32.9
na.
20:33.0
At kukuni mo
20:35.5
yung pera niyan
20:36.3
para
20:36.7
ma-elect ka ulit
20:37.9
sa iyong term
20:38.7
sa iyong
20:39.3
respective territories.
20:41.7
So that will only
20:42.6
foment
20:43.2
corruption
20:44.6
of the electoral
20:46.2
system as well.
20:47.9
Not to mention
20:48.9
the corruption
20:49.5
of actual
20:50.4
the actual
20:52.6
budget
20:53.2
disposition
20:54.5
ng mga congressmen
20:56.0
at sa mga
20:56.4
local government.
20:57.6
Kaya ngayon
20:58.1
sabi natin
20:59.2
bakit
21:00.1
for example
21:00.9
ang local government
21:02.1
mayroon na yun.
21:03.0
這
21:03.4
unit
21:03.7
elections
21:04.3
are
21:04.8
very violent.
21:06.7
Why?
21:07.4
Because the
21:08.1
political
21:08.6
dynasties
21:09.4
would like to
21:10.0
perpetuate
21:10.7
themselves in power
21:11.6
at makipagpapatayan
21:13.4
sila
21:13.7
para they can
21:14.7
maintain
21:15.2
their monopoly
21:16.0
of the electoral
21:17.3
process
21:17.9
as well as
21:18.6
their leadership.
21:20.0
Okay
21:20.8
Masasagod ko po
21:22.0
sa inyo
21:22.4
yung mga
21:22.9
rationalizations.
21:25.7
Hindi siya
21:26.0
justification e.
21:27.8
Rationalization
21:28.3
na madalas
21:28.9
ka po
21:29.1
madinig sa
21:29.7
mga
21:30.0
members
21:31.1
ng political
21:31.7
dynasties
21:32.3
na ako mismo
21:32.8
nakakausap ko po.
21:34.5
For example,
21:35.7
yung Erap Dynasty.
21:37.1
Isa po yun sa mga
21:37.9
longest running
21:39.6
and the biggest
21:41.2
political dynasties
21:42.2
in the Philippines.
21:43.2
Nagsimula sa San Juan.
21:44.9
Tapos he tried to expand
21:46.1
sa Manila.
21:47.1
Pero syempre,
21:47.8
eventually,
21:48.2
natalo rin siya.
21:49.5
Mukha kasing
21:50.2
medyo manipis na eh.
21:52.2
That was the story
21:53.2
of the Erap
21:53.8
of the Estradas in Manila.
21:55.9
Pag nakakausap po sa Erap,
21:57.7
ang lagi niyang sinasabi,
21:58.7
eh teka,
21:59.5
binoboto kami ng mga tao eh.
22:01.5
Hindi naman kami
22:02.2
monarki eh.
22:03.4
Hindi naman daw
22:03.8
pinapamana technically.
22:05.5
Binoboto raw sila ng tao.
22:07.0
And this argument
22:07.8
is not
22:08.5
just being used
22:10.0
by the likes of
22:10.7
Joseph Estrada.
22:12.7
Si Jingoy Estrada,
22:13.7
pag pinanong nyo,
22:14.4
ganun din naman
22:14.8
ang argument niya
22:15.5
in many other
22:16.3
political clans
22:18.2
and dynasties.
22:19.9
Ano ba yung tama
22:20.3
sagot doon?
22:21.1
Ano ba yung mali roon?
22:22.5
Kasi parang ginagamit
22:23.5
na rin
22:23.7
demokrasya
22:24.5
to justify
22:25.6
the perpetuation
22:26.7
to power
22:27.4
by members
22:28.5
of these political clans.
22:30.3
Ano pong sagot nyo doon?
22:31.6
Ang sagot po
22:32.2
natin dyan eh.
22:33.2
Tinang naman natin
22:34.3
with all due respect
22:35.6
to Senator Estrada.
22:36.8
He's the most
22:37.2
convicted
22:37.8
man of conviction.
22:40.4
Kita mo naman
22:40.9
ang ginawa niya
22:41.7
na conviction
22:42.3
ng Sandigan Bayan.
22:44.3
So in other words,
22:46.0
naitatago
22:47.1
sa mga
22:48.4
electorate,
22:50.2
mga mamboboto
22:51.3
ang kanilang
22:52.3
layunin
22:54.3
because the
22:55.5
electorates themselves
22:56.5
are not
22:57.1
very well informed
22:58.1
of exactly
22:58.7
what kind of
22:59.4
people they are.
23:01.3
Because they have
23:02.0
already the machinery,
23:03.6
they have the media,
23:05.1
which they are
23:05.7
actually the
23:06.4
environmental media,
23:08.8
and they have
23:09.5
the influence
23:10.3
and the network.
23:11.7
Walang taong,
23:12.2
hindi mananalong
23:13.2
kalaban nila
23:14.1
kung talaga may
23:15.2
political dynasties na yan.
23:17.0
Hindi mananalong sila
23:18.0
kahit kailan.
23:18.8
So anong gusto natin?
23:20.1
We're gonna wait
23:20.8
for another 37 years
23:22.3
for the Supreme Court
23:23.7
to compel
23:24.4
Congress
23:25.5
to pass
23:26.1
the political dynasty
23:27.1
prohibition?
23:28.5
Baka hindi naman
23:29.1
nyata natin
23:29.8
gusto yan.
23:32.0
Okay.
23:32.7
Isa pang madalas
23:33.7
kumadinig, sir,
23:35.0
eh huwag niyong lalahatin
23:36.0
kasi meron namang
23:36.9
good dynasties
23:37.7
at saka merong
23:38.3
bad dynasties.
23:39.4
Marami naman daw.
23:40.2
In fairness din naman,
23:41.1
may mga lugar sa Pilipinas
23:42.9
na ang namumuno
23:44.2
ay political dynasties.
23:45.7
Ang madalas
23:46.1
sa parasot po nila dyan,
23:48.1
kunwari lang,
23:48.9
hindi naman kayo
23:49.7
siyempre dynastia.
23:50.6
Example lang,
23:51.7
Domingo,
23:52.7
brand of public service.
23:54.6
Nakikita kayo
23:55.1
sa mga probinsya.
23:56.2
Mula noon
23:57.0
hanggang ngayon.
23:57.9
Diba?
23:58.6
Yung ganyan,
24:00.1
do you subscribe?
24:01.1
Do you buy that?
24:02.0
Argument?
24:02.5
Hindi, meron namang
24:03.1
good dynasties
24:04.1
and they also bring
24:05.3
change and development
24:06.7
in areas in the Philippines.
24:09.9
Well,
24:10.2
that can be probably true
24:11.6
with respect to some
24:13.0
more enlightened
24:14.7
and more altruistic
24:17.4
political dynasties.
24:19.4
But again,
24:20.6
why did the commission
24:21.7
enact the Section 26?
24:25.8
That means that
24:26.6
there are empirical data
24:27.9
that will support
24:28.8
that political dynasties
24:30.2
are not good
24:31.1
for the governance
24:31.8
of our country.
24:33.7
Diba?
24:34.4
So, kahit ano sabihin nila
24:36.0
that they're more qualified
24:37.1
and therefore
24:37.8
they're enlightened
24:38.6
political dynasties
24:39.9
at binoboto kami ng tao.
24:41.4
Paano sila binoboto
24:42.2
ng tao?
24:43.2
Because, what?
24:44.9
Sino bang,
24:45.7
let's say,
24:46.5
dalawang kalaban nila,
24:47.9
isa yung napakagaling
24:48.9
at isa naman
24:49.9
ay convicted
24:50.5
sa isang krimen,
24:52.2
sinong ibaboto
24:53.1
ng tao?
24:53.7
Siyempre,
24:54.4
kung mulat
24:55.0
ang matan
24:56.4
ng mga tao
24:57.5
ng electorates,
24:58.7
ibaboto nila
24:59.4
yung malinis.
25:00.2
Nawalang kondiksyon.
25:03.7
Right?
25:04.5
So, yun ang
25:04.9
ibaboto nila
25:05.9
because
25:06.4
that would be a promise
25:07.7
that the leadership
25:08.8
of that particular person
25:10.0
that they would vote on
25:11.1
will be
25:12.3
a good one
25:13.5
as compared to the one
25:14.6
who had been convicted.
25:17.6
Okay.
25:18.2
Tsaka ang problema po dyan,
25:19.2
diba?
25:19.5
Yung mga dynasties,
25:21.3
ay kontrola din nila
25:22.1
yung rules of the game
25:23.0
pati electoral system.
25:24.6
Diba?
25:25.3
Magkadikit yan kasi.
25:26.4
Kunwari,
25:26.7
the high cost of campaign
25:27.9
or election spending,
25:30.2
eh,
25:30.8
miski magaling ka
25:31.5
pag wala kang pera,
25:32.2
diba po?
25:33.1
Hindi ka naman
25:33.5
napakaslim ng chance
25:34.9
ng kandidatong gano'n
25:36.0
to actually win an election
25:37.1
kung ang kalaban
25:37.8
is political dynasties.
25:39.0
Tama po ba?
25:40.0
So,
25:40.4
mechanism,
25:42.0
machine
25:42.6
ng mga political dynasties
25:44.4
is something
25:45.2
very invi-
25:45.9
inviable.
25:47.5
Hindi natin
25:48.2
magtututukan
25:49.0
na mapapantayan yan.
25:50.9
Kung an ordinary
25:51.7
Juan de la Cruz
25:52.6
na napakagaling
25:53.5
ay lalaban
25:54.9
sa political dynasties,
25:56.2
eh,
25:56.3
wala siyang kalaban-laban.
25:58.3
No?
25:58.4
Kaya dapat eh
25:59.6
magkaroon na po.
26:00.2
Ang pagbabago
26:01.0
sa electoral system natin
26:03.2
and that will be
26:04.2
part of this would be
26:05.8
to reform
26:06.8
the electoral system
26:07.9
by abolishing,
26:10.3
prohibiting
26:10.9
the,
26:11.9
the political dynasties
26:14.0
which is required
26:14.9
by the Constitution
26:15.8
nonetheless
26:16.4
na hindi pa natin
26:17.7
ginagamit
26:18.4
since 37 years ago.
26:21.3
Ito pala, sir.
26:22.3
Paano kung
26:22.8
idaan naman ito
26:23.7
ng ating mga magagaling
26:24.9
na congressmen
26:26.0
o members ng Senate
26:27.2
sa isang
26:28.6
charter change
26:29.9
o kaya kung
26:30.2
constituent assembly.
26:31.5
O game, sige,
26:32.1
gusto nyo,
26:32.5
i-define namin yung
26:33.1
political dynasties
26:34.0
at mag-pass kami
26:34.7
ng anti-political
26:35.4
dynasty law,
26:37.2
eh,
26:38.1
isabay na natin
26:38.9
sa political chacha
26:40.1
hindi lang economic chacha
26:41.4
which we all know
26:42.7
can open a Pandora's box.
26:44.6
No?
26:45.5
Paano kung ganun po
26:46.3
yung mangyari?
26:47.3
Yan ang pwedeng gawin nilang
26:48.8
gambit,
26:49.8
no?
26:50.4
Christian,
26:51.2
pwedeng nilang sabihin
26:52.1
kasama naman
26:52.7
ng People's Initiative
26:53.7
or amendment ng Constitution
26:55.1
but I think
26:56.2
makikita naman ng tao
26:57.4
ang kanilang ginagawa.
26:59.8
So,
27:00.2
probably the
27:00.7
people who would be
27:02.5
enacting
27:03.1
or would be faced
27:03.9
with the referendum
27:04.7
will reject
27:06.4
that kind of
27:07.2
initiative.
27:09.7
Sa papala, sir,
27:10.6
before I forget,
27:11.5
one of the arguments
27:12.4
I usually hear
27:13.3
from members
27:14.0
of political clans
27:15.1
sinasabi nila
27:16.6
eh,
27:16.9
undemocratic yan eh
27:18.0
pag binan yung
27:19.0
political dynasty.
27:20.2
Kunwari,
27:21.2
eh,
27:21.6
very qualified naman yung anak,
27:23.4
yung pamangkin
27:24.1
o yung pinsan,
27:25.7
eh,
27:26.5
bakit nyo
27:27.1
pipigilang
27:28.5
magservisyo
27:29.3
sa tao?
27:30.2
Kunwari,
27:31.1
edukado naman,
27:32.0
o mataas yung pinag-aralan,
27:33.5
very qualified,
27:34.7
ano po ba
27:35.1
ang sagot doon?
27:36.2
Tinan natin
27:36.9
ang kalaban nila.
27:38.4
Ang ginagawa nila eh,
27:39.4
there is
27:39.7
stifling competition eh.
27:41.5
Diba?
27:41.9
Political dynasty
27:42.9
is it's a fair
27:43.9
nila yung kalaban nila eh.
27:45.5
Tinan natin mabuti,
27:46.5
then the people
27:47.1
will elect freely
27:47.9
and choose themselves.
27:49.1
That's why the
27:49.7
section 26
27:51.6
state policy says
27:53.5
to guarantee
27:55.0
the people's
27:56.4
ability to
27:57.3
choose
27:57.8
their own
27:59.0
eh,
27:59.2
ah,
28:00.4
candidates.
28:01.7
Yan ang pinapangalagaan
28:02.9
ng section 26
28:04.0
because
28:04.4
kung ang political
28:05.9
dynasty sa nandyan,
28:07.2
hindi na free
28:08.0
ang choice nila.
28:09.9
Diba?
28:10.8
Hindi na free.
28:11.7
Hindi na free.
28:12.3
Hindi na malawak
28:13.4
ang kalinan.
28:14.4
They are constricting
28:15.4
the pool of
28:16.4
candidates
28:17.0
who are qualified.
28:18.9
Kung kinonstrict mo
28:19.7
ang pool of candidates,
28:21.5
the number of candidates
28:22.5
na lalaban doon
28:23.3
sa political dynasty,
28:24.6
eh walang kalaban
28:25.3
talaga yung ibang pang.
28:26.9
I think we can
28:27.8
even ask
28:28.6
ah,
28:29.2
I'm sure if there's
28:30.0
a survey,
28:31.1
maraming mga magagaling
28:32.4
na Filipino.
28:33.8
In fact,
28:34.6
maraming
28:35.0
ah,
28:35.8
nag-text sa akin
28:36.6
na Christian.
28:37.5
Sabi nila,
28:38.2
tama po ang ginagawa nyo
28:39.6
kasi dito sa aming
28:41.1
probinsya,
28:41.9
wala nang nangyayari.
28:43.3
Eh,
28:43.5
puro mga abogado yun.
28:44.9
Puro mga
28:45.5
professionals yun.
28:47.0
Hindi kami nang manalo.
28:48.1
Sabi nila,
28:48.5
hindi po kami mananalo
28:49.5
dyan kasi
28:50.0
malaki yung
28:50.9
ang makinaryo
28:51.8
ng political
28:52.5
dynasties.
28:53.6
I sabi ko,
28:54.1
hindi,
28:54.9
gumawa kayo ng
28:55.6
manifesto
28:56.3
para ma-support
28:57.3
ang aming ginagawa.
28:58.3
Magtulong-tulongan tayo
28:59.7
that the people
29:00.9
be more aware
29:02.2
of what's happening.
29:04.4
And we have been
29:05.1
sleeping
29:05.6
for 37 years,
29:07.6
Christian,
29:08.5
na hindi natin
29:09.0
sinusukoy
29:09.7
itong political
29:10.3
dynasties.
29:11.4
And I think
29:11.8
this should be
29:12.2
a spark plug
29:13.1
for the nation
29:14.2
to have
29:14.8
and to
29:15.9
rally around
29:17.8
this petition
29:18.9
para tayo
29:20.1
ay magkasama-sama
29:21.0
pag nakita
29:21.8
ng Supreme Court
29:22.6
na tayo
29:23.4
magkakasama
29:24.0
at kailangan natin
29:24.9
ng batas
29:25.4
along that line,
29:26.8
then perhaps
29:27.4
makikinig
29:28.1
ang Supreme Court
29:28.9
because that is
29:30.2
their duty
29:30.8
to also implement
29:32.1
the Constitution
29:33.1
particularly
29:34.1
in this particular
29:35.1
respect,
29:35.7
the Section 26
29:36.8
Article 2.
29:38.4
Okay.
29:39.0
Bilang panghuli,
29:39.6
attorney,
29:40.2
tanungin ko na rin po
29:41.3
kayo, no?
29:43.0
Kung kayo yung
29:44.1
magkakraft ng
29:44.8
batas na ito,
29:46.0
ano ba dapat
29:46.6
yung degree
29:47.2
of affinity
29:48.0
and consanguinity
29:49.1
na maganda
29:50.7
na makover
29:51.9
ng isang
29:52.3
anti-political
29:53.0
dynasty ban?
29:54.3
Sinasabi na ba
29:55.0
second degree?
29:56.3
Iba up to
29:56.8
third degree?
29:57.6
Sa inyo po,
29:58.1
ba? Anong tingin niyo?
29:59.9
Sa akin,
30:00.6
hindi ko pa masyadong
30:01.5
masusi kong
30:02.8
na-analyze siya,
30:04.5
kasi that actually
30:05.5
a question that is
30:06.8
on the discretion
30:08.0
of the Congress,
30:08.8
no?
30:09.4
We don't want to
30:10.4
tell the Supreme Court
30:11.6
to tell the Congress
30:12.5
to define
30:13.1
or what they want to do
30:14.7
because that's
30:15.3
discretionary
30:16.2
sa Congress.
30:17.1
What is imperative
30:18.1
and mandatory
30:18.7
would be the passage
30:20.0
of the
30:20.9
anti-political
30:23.3
dynasty
30:23.8
bill
30:24.6
or law.
30:25.8
Pero kung ako
30:26.4
naisipin mo,
30:27.2
kung ako ang tatanungin mo,
30:29.8
as wider
30:30.7
as possible
30:32.5
that we can have
30:34.1
so that we can
30:35.1
really remove
30:36.1
the vestiges
30:37.0
of the political
30:38.0
dynasty,
30:38.8
Christian.
30:39.7
Makikita naman natin
30:40.7
dyan eh.
30:41.6
Pati na asawa,
30:42.8
kahit nakabit
30:43.5
ng mga congressmen,
30:45.0
eh,
30:46.2
nagigiging kasama
30:47.2
sa political
30:47.8
dynasties,
30:48.6
right?
30:49.2
Kahit na kung saan,
30:50.2
kung layo-layo
30:51.6
na ang kanilang
30:52.5
agwat
30:53.2
sa political
30:53.9
dynasty,
30:55.4
pumapasok pa rin
30:56.3
doon because
30:56.8
meron silang
30:57.8
agwatan
30:58.4
or may connection
30:59.4
sa political
31:00.0
dynasty.
31:01.0
Dapat eh ating
31:02.0
ma-anticipate yun
31:03.1
kasi magagaling
31:04.0
ang mga
31:04.4
ating mga
31:05.3
mababatas
31:06.2
na paikutan
31:07.1
ang
31:08.1
the value
31:09.7
and the
31:10.7
intent
31:11.3
of the
31:11.8
constitutional
31:12.3
provision
31:12.8
against political
31:13.6
dynasties.
31:14.4
Kaya dapat tayo
31:15.3
eh,
31:15.5
bihilante.
31:16.7
We should be
31:17.2
vigilant.
31:18.3
If they propose
31:19.0
a bill
31:19.4
at we don't
31:20.6
like it
31:21.1
because that
31:21.5
would only
31:22.1
circumvent
31:23.1
the prohibition
31:24.4
against the
31:25.0
political
31:25.4
dynasties
31:26.0
under Section
31:26.6
26
31:27.6
which is
31:28.0
mandatorily
31:29.3
mandated by
31:30.4
the Constitution,
31:31.8
tayong mga tao
31:32.7
ang dapat
31:33.3
lumalabas
31:34.0
at sinasabi,
31:34.8
oh,
31:35.5
inilolokon
31:36.3
nyo naman kami.
31:37.1
Huwag naman
31:37.8
ganyan.
31:39.1
Kasi that is
31:40.0
actually in
31:40.8
contravention
31:41.3
of the
31:42.8
essence and
31:43.7
the objective
31:44.2
of the
31:44.8
constitutional
31:45.5
provision
31:46.5
of God.
31:47.3
So hindi
31:47.6
natin papayagan
31:48.6
yan.
31:49.3
Kaya nga tayo
31:49.9
meron ano eh,
31:50.8
meron tayong
31:51.5
Christian,
31:52.9
ako eh,
31:53.8
natutuwa sa iyo,
31:54.9
napakabata mo pa
31:55.9
at marami ka
31:56.5
ngayon.
31:56.6
Ito ang nararating
31:57.2
sa ating
31:58.3
journalism
31:59.0
at ating
31:59.6
pagpapalawak
32:00.7
ng kaalaman
32:01.7
ng mga tao.
32:03.1
Sana ituloy
32:04.2
natin yan
32:04.8
at sana
32:05.2
mas maraming
32:06.0
taong kagaya mo
32:06.9
Christian.
32:07.6
I'm not saying
32:08.3
yes because I
32:08.9
want to applaud
32:09.8
you personally
32:11.1
but I think
32:12.1
we need to
32:13.2
have a
32:14.6
snowballing
32:15.3
support for
32:16.1
that kind
32:16.7
of initiative
32:17.5
at
32:18.7
implement
32:19.4
natin
32:20.0
ang ating
32:20.3
mga kababayan.
32:21.0
Kailangan natin
32:21.7
ito Christian
32:22.3
para ito sa
32:23.2
mga bata,
32:24.5
sa mga anak
32:25.4
natin,
32:26.0
sa future
32:26.4
generations
32:27.1
para maputol
32:28.4
na
32:28.6
ang vestiges
32:31.1
ng political
32:31.9
dynasties
32:32.4
sa ating
32:33.0
electoral system
32:34.1
at ating
32:35.1
gobyerno
32:37.3
at ating
32:37.8
bata.
32:39.3
Salamat sir.
32:40.3
Nakakatabuhan
32:40.8
ang puso
32:41.2
yung sinabi
32:41.6
niyo.
32:41.9
Pero talagang
32:42.6
yung political
32:43.2
dynasties po
32:43.9
kasi isa po
32:44.4
ito sa mga
32:45.1
matagal ko na
32:46.5
pong tinututukan
32:47.2
ng issues
32:47.6
dahil talaga
32:48.4
naman napakagarapal
32:49.3
ng mga political
32:50.0
dynasties
32:50.7
at kadikit po
32:51.4
dyan yung
32:51.9
tinatawag na
32:52.9
clientelism
32:54.0
o yung political
32:54.6
patronage.
32:56.0
Meron pa
32:56.2
nga
32:56.4
yan yung
32:56.7
rent-seeking
32:57.5
at yung
32:58.9
regulatory
32:59.3
capture.
33:00.3
Yan po yung
33:00.7
mga madalas
33:01.7
nating
33:02.0
pinapaliwanag.
33:03.4
Nga pala
33:03.7
sir,
33:03.9
kanina natawa
33:04.4
ako nung
33:04.7
binanggit
33:05.1
niyo pati
33:05.4
yung kabit
33:05.8
kasi totoo
33:07.5
pong nangyayari
33:08.2
yan.
33:08.7
Nga pala
33:09.2
legally,
33:09.6
paano ba
33:10.0
ikakategorize
33:10.8
yan?
33:11.0
Sa batas
33:11.5
kailangan
33:11.9
ng
33:12.0
categorization
33:12.8
or
33:13.0
differentiation
33:13.5
kasi napaka-creative
33:15.3
ng ating
33:15.7
mga politiko.
33:17.5
Basically
33:18.1
creative for
33:19.1
all the wrong
33:19.8
reasons.
33:21.2
Baka sabihin nila
33:22.1
paano naging
33:22.6
dynasty?
33:23.4
Kabit ko nga yan.
33:24.2
Hindi nga
33:24.9
minsan naaaminan,
33:26.0
di ba?
33:26.5
Wala kaming
33:26.9
relations whatsoever.
33:28.4
So,
33:29.2
I can't imagine
33:30.2
for now
33:31.4
what kind of
33:32.1
law would be
33:32.9
able to
33:33.3
cover that.
33:34.7
Palagay ko,
33:35.7
kailangan ng
33:36.2
creative mind
33:37.5
ng mga
33:38.0
professionals
33:39.8
who are in
33:40.4
this kind of
33:40.9
business.
33:41.8
Kailangan
33:42.4
makikita natin
33:43.2
kasi kung
33:44.1
kabit lang
33:44.6
yun,
33:45.7
legally
33:46.0
hindi pwede.
33:47.6
Pero kung
33:47.9
let's say
33:48.3
ang kanyang
33:48.9
influence
33:49.7
sa kabit
33:50.2
niya
33:50.9
ay malawak
33:51.7
din,
33:52.6
siguro
33:52.9
titignan natin
33:53.6
ang background
33:54.1
ng
33:54.2
business.
33:54.2
Kung ang
33:55.8
kabit ay
33:56.4
talagang
33:56.8
naka-ankla
33:59.5
sa political
34:01.4
dynasty,
34:02.3
siguro
34:02.7
sasabihin natin
34:03.7
pati yung
34:04.1
kabit dapat
34:04.7
hindi kasali.
34:06.0
So,
34:06.6
it has to be
34:07.4
more creative
34:08.3
and more
34:08.8
forward-looking,
34:09.9
Christian.
34:10.9
Hindi maari tayong
34:11.8
liitin natin
34:13.2
ating mga
34:13.9
paningin natin.
34:15.7
We'll
34:16.6
anticipate
34:17.2
what the
34:18.7
political
34:19.4
dynasties have
34:20.2
been doing
34:20.9
since 37
34:21.8
years ago.
34:22.4
Dapat
34:23.3
anticipate
34:23.8
natin
34:24.2
yun.
34:24.6
At i-plug
34:25.2
natin ng
34:25.7
loopholes
34:26.2
para hindi
34:26.9
na silang
34:27.3
makalusot.
34:28.6
Nakakalusot
34:29.2
sila ng
34:29.5
37 years eh,
34:31.6
Christian.
34:32.1
Even before
34:32.6
that.
34:33.4
So, gusto nilang
34:34.0
i-perpetuate
34:34.7
itong system
34:35.5
na ito
34:35.9
para sa
34:36.5
kanilang
34:37.0
kapakanan.
34:38.1
At sa
34:38.3
interest nila
34:38.9
at hindi
34:39.5
interest
34:40.0
ng ating
34:41.2
mga kababayan.
34:43.1
Okay.
34:44.0
Well, maraming
34:44.5
salamat,
34:44.9
Atty. Rico
34:45.8
Domingo.
34:46.4
At least,
34:46.9
you felt
34:47.3
a very
34:47.7
important
34:48.2
petition
34:48.6
sa Supreme
34:49.1
Court.
34:50.0
At kung
34:50.2
dun sa mga
34:50.8
viewers natin,
34:52.8
sana nasundan
34:53.5
nyo po
34:53.7
yung binabanggit
34:54.3
ni Atty.
34:55.1
Importante
34:55.5
dyan yung
34:55.8
vigilance
34:56.3
ng public.
34:57.5
Kasi,
34:58.3
minsan may
34:58.6
pag-aasa pa rin
34:59.2
kahit napakagarapal
35:00.2
na ating
35:00.6
mga
35:01.0
legislators.
35:03.6
Basta meron
35:04.4
tamang push
35:05.1
from the people.
35:06.1
Just like
35:06.6
during the
35:06.9
pork barrel
35:07.3
issue.
35:08.7
Miski
35:09.1
administration
35:09.5
ng time na yun,
35:10.3
gusto naman
35:10.7
yung pork
35:11.1
barrel.
35:11.6
Pero eventually,
35:12.4
they were
35:12.8
forced to
35:13.6
give it up.
35:15.1
Although,
35:15.3
nandun pa rin
35:15.8
naman yung
35:16.0
pork barrel
35:16.5
ngayon.
35:17.7
Medyo tayo
35:18.2
natutulog tayo,
35:19.3
Christian.
35:20.0
I'm sorry to say.
35:21.0
Medyo natutulog tayo
35:22.2
ng 37 years
35:23.2
sa hindi natin
35:23.9
binubulaga
35:24.5
ang mga
35:25.2
liderato natin.
35:27.5
Eh,
35:27.6
dapat eh,
35:28.5
maano na tayo?
35:29.5
Mag-enforceful na tayo
35:30.8
sa ating
35:31.2
adikain, no?
35:32.9
Sabihin natin,
35:33.8
ang hirap sa ating
35:34.5
mga Pilipino
35:35.5
na medyo respect
35:36.3
to our countrymen,
35:37.6
eh,
35:39.2
apathetic sila eh.
35:40.9
Hindi sila
35:41.3
maninindigan eh.
35:42.6
Manindigan tayo.
35:44.7
Siguraduhin natin
35:45.4
na ang gusto natin
35:46.2
mangyari
35:46.7
sa ating
35:47.5
mga mambabatas,
35:48.5
eh,
35:48.6
ito,
35:49.5
huwag tayong patumpik-tumpik pa.
35:52.2
Dapat sabihin natin
35:53.0
sa kanilang,
35:53.8
mag-pass kayo
35:54.6
ng anti-dynasty
35:56.1
bill
35:56.9
and law.
35:58.3
Gusto namin yan.
35:59.9
Kami ang bumabota
36:00.7
sa inyo.
36:01.2
Gusto namin yan.
36:02.4
Pag narinig nila yan,
36:03.3
matatakot din yan eh.
36:05.9
Diba?
36:06.9
Mm-hmm.
36:07.4
Okay.
36:08.1
Manindigan tayo.
36:09.2
Huwag tayong
36:09.6
papayag na gagawin nilang
36:11.7
dapat nilang gawin.
36:12.5
Dapat ang tao mismo,
36:13.6
ang people power,
36:15.3
eh,
36:15.4
dapat umiiral na naman
36:16.7
ngayon.
36:18.4
Okay?
36:19.9
Okay.
36:20.7
Sige, sir.
36:21.2
Maraming maraming salamat
36:22.1
Atty. Rico Domingo.
36:23.3
Invite ko pa po kayo ulit
36:24.4
to ask for updates
36:25.8
about this, no?
36:26.7
Sige.
36:27.2
Salamat, Christian.
36:28.2
At more power to you,
36:29.4
Christian.
36:30.4
Sa inyo rin po, sir.
36:31.1
Maraming salamat po.
36:32.1
Okay.
36:32.6
Thank you.
36:34.4
Yan po si Atty. Rico Domingo.
36:37.1
Yan.
36:37.3
Nakausap po natin.
36:38.3
Tukol dito sa napaka-importanting
36:39.9
petisyon
36:40.5
na inihain po
36:42.1
sa Korte Suprema, no?
36:43.7
Kung napapansin niyo po,
36:44.9
ito po talaga
36:45.6
isang mga issues
36:46.4
na tinututukan natin.
36:47.9
I don't even know
36:48.7
where to start
36:49.4
in terms of addressing
36:50.6
this problem of
36:51.7
political democracy.
36:52.1
Pero yung binabanggit ko kanina,
36:55.0
talagang madalas ko po
36:56.0
madinig yan
36:56.5
sa mga miyembro
36:57.3
ng political dynasties
36:58.4
na nakakausap ko.
36:59.9
Sinasabi,
37:00.8
eh,
37:01.4
anong magagawa na?
37:02.4
Binoboto kami.
37:03.8
O.
37:04.4
Parang ano yan, eh.
37:05.2
Diba?
37:05.4
Ang argument nila lagi.
37:06.5
Kunwari, isang pamilya,
37:07.7
merong doktor yung tatay.
37:09.6
Eh, diba gusto rin
37:10.2
yung anak niya
37:10.7
maging doktor?
37:11.9
O kaya,
37:12.2
kung abogado yung nanay
37:13.6
at saka yung tatay,
37:14.5
eh, gusto rin yung anak nila
37:15.3
maging doktor din.
37:16.7
Eh, ang claim nila kasi,
37:18.2
yung joining politics
37:19.9
and seeking an elective post
37:22.7
is similar to that
37:24.2
or akin to
37:25.2
a profession or career.
37:27.2
Yun ang argument nila dyan.
37:28.7
Okay?
37:29.4
Ang problema,
37:30.0
hindi siya technically pareho, eh.
37:31.7
No?
37:32.5
At saka,
37:33.0
pag iniisip nyo kasi,
37:34.9
ito,
37:35.2
simplihan natin.
37:36.0
Although, again, ah,
37:37.3
isa nahirapan po talaga
37:38.4
akong ipaintindi ito
37:39.9
sa mas nakararaming Pilipino
37:41.2
because they also understand
37:42.7
the realities on the ground.
37:44.1
No?
37:45.3
Tayo siguro,
37:46.3
who can afford
37:47.3
to talk about these things,
37:48.9
we can,
37:49.4
we can,
37:49.8
we can,
37:49.9
we can,
37:49.9
we can,
37:49.9
we can discuss
37:50.2
the evils of fat dynasties
37:52.3
in programs like this.
37:54.1
Pero dun sa maraming Pilipino
37:55.9
na mas marami sa nang iniisip,
37:58.6
for instance,
37:59.3
ano ba yung kakainin bukas?
38:01.0
Ano ba yung saan makukuha
38:02.4
ng baon
38:03.1
para sa aking anak
38:04.2
para makapasok man lang bukas?
38:06.9
Yung issues ng political dynasties,
38:09.0
actually,
38:09.5
that's the least of their concerns.
38:11.1
Sa totoo lang.
38:12.3
Kasi,
38:12.9
hindi gut issues sa kanila yun, eh.
38:14.6
Diba?
38:15.3
Bakit ko mapoproblemahin
38:16.4
yung mga dynasty na yan?
38:17.7
And sa akin lang,
38:18.7
basta pwede makatulog,
38:19.9
yung nakaupong politiko,
38:21.8
okay na po ako dun.
38:22.7
And we cannot really blame
38:23.7
our countrymen
38:26.2
na ganun po mag-isip.
38:27.3
Kasi yun po yung reality, eh.
38:28.7
Ang dapat po natin sisihin
38:30.2
ay yung mga membro
38:31.3
ng political dynasties
38:32.6
who are exploiting
38:34.1
our countrymen
38:35.0
in such situations.
38:37.0
Yun po yung masakit dyan.
38:38.3
Kasi they're supposed to know better,
38:39.9
yung mga politiko na yan.
38:41.0
Ang ginagawa nila,
38:42.5
hindi,
38:42.7
dapat ganyan ang mentality nyo.
38:44.3
Kasi pag natuto kayo
38:45.3
o namulat kayo,
38:46.2
tatanggalin nyo kami sa pwesto.
38:47.9
Diba?
38:48.6
Pero isipin nyo,
38:49.3
isang pamilya,
38:49.9
nakapag-pag-graduate,
38:51.8
mas namulat yung mata niya,
38:53.2
nakita niya,
38:53.7
ah dapat pala,
38:54.3
ganito talaga ang sistema natin.
38:56.0
Napakabulok pala
38:56.8
ng sistema ng ating eleksyon
38:58.1
tsaka politika.
38:59.4
Isipin nyo kung
39:00.1
nag-multiply yung ganung,
39:01.7
ganung pag-iisip
39:03.6
across families,
39:05.3
across the Philippines,
39:06.8
eh mabibilang na po talaga
39:08.1
yung araw ng mga political dynasties.
39:10.4
In the meantime,
39:11.7
until that day comes,
39:13.0
eh talagang
39:13.6
marami po sa ating
39:14.9
mga kapwa ang Pilipino,
39:16.0
eh hawak po sa liig,
39:17.8
unfortunately,
39:18.3
ng mga political dynasties.
39:19.9
Ang ginagawa nila,
39:21.2
o,
39:21.3
bibigyan namin ganyan
39:22.2
ng konting tulong,
39:23.7
o,
39:24.2
konting development.
39:25.4
Siyempre,
39:25.8
kasi ngayon,
39:26.2
social media na, no?
39:27.5
Lalabas kung sino yung
39:28.3
bugok na politiko, no?
39:29.6
Example,
39:30.1
napansin nyo ba yung
39:30.7
during the,
39:31.3
ah,
39:32.8
pandemic lockdowns,
39:34.1
diba?
39:34.3
Napilitang mag-step up
39:35.5
yung ilang mga local officials, eh.
39:37.1
Kasi, eh,
39:37.9
lumalabas sa social media
39:39.0
kung sino yung mga tatanga-tanga
39:40.3
tsaka papapatay-patay
39:41.6
na local governments, eh.
39:43.3
So, nagkaroon sila
39:43.9
ng healthy competition,
39:45.6
dynasty man o hindi.
39:47.5
But even then,
39:48.1
pag tinignan po natin
39:49.1
yung ugat ng political dynasties,
39:51.1
unfortunately,
39:52.1
in many parts of the country,
39:53.3
pag tinanong nyo yung mga kababayan natin,
39:55.8
hindi issue sa kanila yung
39:56.7
political dynasty.
39:57.9
Ang issue dyan,
39:58.8
eh, nakakapag-deliver ba
39:59.9
ng ayuda
40:00.4
yung nakaupong, ah,
40:02.6
mayor, for instance,
40:03.6
o governor.
40:04.8
At minsan,
40:05.5
pumapasok dyan yung
40:06.4
political branding, eh, no?
40:07.8
Nadinig ko yan dati.
40:08.9
Example,
40:09.4
nandun ako sa, ano,
40:10.7
ah,
40:11.8
I did a special report
40:13.6
about the
40:14.6
Duterte
40:15.3
dynasty
40:16.8
dito sa
40:17.6
2022 elections.
40:19.8
Nakausap ko yung ilang mga kababayan
40:21.1
natin dyan sa Davao City.
40:22.3
Tinanong ko lang.
40:22.9
For instance,
40:23.3
yung mga man on the street interviews,
40:25.2
tinanong ko sa kanila,
40:26.9
yun ang nakausap ko,
40:27.8
sabi ko,
40:28.8
sino po ba ibaboto nyo
40:29.8
for mayor?
40:31.2
Ah,
40:32.1
ibaboto po namin si Sara.
40:34.6
Sabi ko,
40:34.9
ah, hindi naman po si Sara
40:36.5
yung tatakbo po
40:37.3
sa pagka
40:38.0
mayor
40:38.9
sa darating na eleksyon.
40:40.4
Ah, vice president po
40:41.5
yung tatakbuhan niya.
40:42.7
Ah, hindi,
40:43.1
basta sa amin,
40:43.7
ano, basta Duterte.
40:45.0
Ibig sabihin,
40:45.4
yung brand na yun,
40:47.0
yun talaga yung
40:47.6
tinitingnan nila eh.
40:48.4
Parang brand siguro
40:49.2
ng toothpaste, no?
40:50.2
O, pabiti nga po
40:50.9
ng Colgate dyan.
40:52.4
Ah, anong Colgate gusto mo?
40:53.7
Yung Pepsodent.
40:54.7
Di ba?
40:55.1
I mean,
40:55.6
na-imagine nyo, no?
40:57.1
Yung political branding
40:58.6
has been very, very effective
40:59.9
for most of this
41:01.7
political dynasties, no?
41:03.9
Kaya,
41:04.5
yun na yung byword eh.
41:05.6
Ah, for instance,
41:06.5
yung sa situation
41:07.1
na binabanggit ko.
41:08.6
O,
41:09.2
tapos ang problema,
41:10.1
for instance,
41:10.7
yung mga argument na ganyan
41:11.8
na sinasabi nila,
41:12.5
eh, binaboto kami ng tao eh.
41:13.8
Napaka-democratic naman
41:14.9
pag
41:15.3
ah, pinigilan nyo kami
41:16.9
na tumakbo.
41:17.9
Eh, gusto lang naman namin
41:19.1
ay mag-servisyo
41:20.0
sa ating
41:20.4
mga kababayan.
41:23.1
Asus!
41:25.1
Nagbobulahan pa ba tayo dito?
41:26.4
Eh, syempre,
41:26.8
gusto nyo maupo sa pwesto
41:28.1
dahil gusto nyo yung kapangyarihan.
41:29.9
Di ba?
41:30.8
Kapangyarihan ang gusto nyo dyan eh.
41:32.5
Hindi naman siguro
41:33.2
kayo nagisigisang umaga
41:34.3
talaga nag-uumapaw, no?
41:36.1
Sasabog yung puso nyo
41:37.1
dahil punong-puno
41:38.0
ng pagmamahal
41:39.3
para sa ating mga kababayan.
41:40.6
I really want to help
41:41.7
my countrymen.
41:43.2
So, talagang gusto,
41:43.8
gusto ko silang tulungan.
41:45.0
And so, ang gagawin ko,
41:46.3
tatakbo ko for mayor.
41:47.5
Wala naman siguro gano'n, no?
41:48.8
Mag-isip.
41:49.8
Siguro, that's more of an exception
41:51.4
than the rule.
41:52.9
Ito po yung problema.
41:54.5
Pag ang isang political dynasty
41:55.8
o isang lugar
41:56.6
hawak na isang political dynasty
41:58.0
for so many years,
42:00.1
talagang restrictive, no?
42:01.6
Talagang ibaboto sila ng tao
42:03.1
kasi yung choice is very limited, eh.
42:04.8
Di ba? Napansin nyo ba?
42:06.1
For instance,
42:06.9
marami sa mga posisyon
42:08.9
during the 2022 elections,
42:10.7
walang kalaban yung mga kandidato,
42:12.7
yung mga political dynasties.
42:14.6
Eh, kasi,
42:15.0
eh, paano mo lalabanan yun?
42:16.8
O, wala ka naman pera
42:19.0
pambili ng, for instance,
42:21.2
campaign para for Nelia.
42:23.1
Wala kang pangpondo,
42:25.1
for instance,
42:25.7
sa mga meeting de avance, eh.
42:27.3
O, yung mga barangay captains,
42:29.3
bayad ng tumatakbo
42:30.3
at saka nakaupo,
42:31.2
o kaya nakaupong mayor.
42:32.3
Paano mo naman lalabanan yun?
42:34.2
Tapos,
42:35.1
pag nakampanya ka house to house,
42:36.4
nag-e-expect yung mga lalapitan mo,
42:38.7
o, magkano po bang ibibigay nyo?
42:41.0
Paano ka lalaban sa gano'ng sistema?
42:42.6
O, sabihin mo,
42:44.4
okay na ba yung 3 million?
42:46.3
Good luck.
42:48.0
Ipunin mo na lang yan,
42:48.9
palaguin mo.
42:49.7
Di ba?
42:50.1
Sayang lang yan.
42:52.4
Kaya nananalo yung mga political dynasties,
42:54.7
kaya sila ini-elect
42:55.8
in a democratic process,
42:58.3
which we call elections,
43:00.2
i-kontrolado nila yung game, eh.
43:01.9
Di ba?
43:03.8
Alam nyo,
43:05.2
mahirap manalo rito sa ating eleksyon
43:07.4
kung wala kang pera.
43:09.1
Okay, maniniwala rin sa mga kandidato
43:10.9
na sinasabi,
43:12.8
walang akong pera eh,
43:14.0
pero talagang
43:14.6
pinapatakbo tayo ng mga kababayan natin, eh.
43:17.8
Gusto lang natin talagang maglingkod.
43:20.0
Huwag na po tayo magbulahan, no?
43:21.5
Sakit po sa tingin ng gano'n, eh.
43:23.6
Maga, nagkakagaguhan tayo, eh.
43:25.4
No? Harapan, eh.
43:28.4
Yun po yung sinasabi ko lagi, no?
43:30.5
Kontrolado nila yung sistema.
43:31.8
Minsan, may mga political dynasties na
43:33.7
magpapatakbo ng mga,
43:35.9
yung mga token opponents.
43:39.3
O, tumakbo ka nga dyan
43:40.2
para may kalaban ako.
43:41.4
Pero alam mo namang siya'y mananalo.
43:44.0
Well, in fairness naman
43:46.1
sa ilang mga political dynasties,
43:47.6
meron din po talagang mga political dynasties
43:50.1
na nagdi-deliver.
43:51.8
At talagang na-i-develop yung kanilang mga lugar.
43:53.9
In fairness po.
43:55.2
That we have to give to them.
43:57.4
Pero syempre, in the long run,
44:00.2
sana mas ma-expand po yung opportunities
44:02.2
for other people to serve as well.
44:05.5
Kasi may hirap pag-inisip mo na
44:06.7
ikaw lang yung pwede mag-deliver
44:08.2
ng ganyang klaseng public service.
44:10.8
That in itself is undemocratic.
44:12.8
Diba?
44:14.0
Napakataas naman ang pagtingin mo sa sarili mo
44:15.9
kung ang tingin mo,
44:16.9
ikaw lang
44:17.4
ang makakapagbigay ng ganyang katinding servisyo.
44:20.9
Ito po, no?
44:21.7
Ang suggestion ko sa inyo,
44:23.3
maganda po yung petition na yan
44:24.7
nila attorney Rico Domingo.
44:26.6
Ang importante po dyan,
44:27.7
a critical component of that
44:29.2
is pressure from the public.
44:31.5
Pressure galing po sa inyo.
44:32.8
Napaka-importante po yan.
44:34.8
Kasi eventually,
44:36.1
dito sa ating representative democracy,
44:38.3
na alam naman natin
44:39.1
na hindi naman tayo nasusunod
44:40.5
in most cases,
44:42.4
our representatives
44:43.2
are actually
44:44.0
representing their own
44:45.6
political interests.
44:47.7
In some cases,
44:48.7
or madalas,
44:49.3
ginagamit tayo
44:50.2
bilang dahilan.
44:51.7
Eh yan po yung gusto ng tao eh.
44:53.6
Diba?
44:54.2
Panag-align yung interest nila
44:55.9
doon sa interest ng constituents nila,
44:59.1
doon lang babanggitin yung
45:00.3
prinsipyo ng representative democracy.
45:02.7
Diba?
45:03.1
O kaya ginagamit na excuse
45:04.4
yung mga kababayan natin.
45:05.6
O tayo.
45:09.4
Example lang, no?
45:11.5
Diba yung ano,
45:12.3
yung 70 congressmen,
45:14.0
who voted against the
45:15.3
franchise application
45:16.5
of ABS-CBN,
45:18.1
sa tingin nyo,
45:18.6
nagkonsulta ba yan
45:19.4
sa kanilang mga constituents?
45:21.3
At sa tingin nyo ba
45:22.1
yung constituents nila,
45:23.2
kung kinonsulta man nila,
45:24.8
sinabi sa kanila,
45:25.7
o tama po yan,
45:26.5
magpakatuta kayo
45:27.6
doon kay Duterte
45:28.5
tsaka kay Alan Peter Caetano
45:30.1
at i-reject nyo po
45:31.3
yung franchise ng ABS-CBN.
45:33.4
Hindi naman siguro
45:34.1
ganun mag-isip
45:34.7
yung mga kababayan natin.
45:35.9
Diba?
45:36.6
Ngayon, kung nakinig sila
45:38.2
doon sa kababayan nila
45:39.6
at sinabi ng mga kababayan nila,
45:40.9
hindi,
45:41.3
bigyan nyo ng bagong franchise
45:42.4
yung ABS-CBN,
45:43.8
yun po yung tunay
45:44.6
na pag,
45:45.8
yung pakikinig
45:46.5
sa kanilang constituents.
45:47.9
Pero alam naman natin,
45:48.8
political interest
45:49.7
and survival nila
45:50.5
yung tinitingnan nila eh.
45:52.3
Huwag na tayo magbulahan dyan.
45:53.6
Napaka-specific na example ko.
45:55.5
And that is very true.
45:56.9
Okay?
45:58.9
Ngayon, in the meantime,
46:00.6
yung mga,
46:01.2
yung mga nakikita natin
46:03.9
yung political dynasties.
46:05.0
Kasi,
46:05.5
importante po talaga,
46:06.8
critical yung,
46:08.3
yung,
46:08.7
yung public pressure
46:11.2
for our politicians.
46:12.4
To once and for all
46:14.2
define and enact
46:16.1
an anti-political dynasty law.
46:18.6
Critical po yan.
46:19.9
Eventually,
46:21.1
pag nag-snowball nga yan,
46:22.2
tulad ng binabanggit
46:23.0
ni Atty. Rico Domingo,
46:24.7
eh,
46:25.2
pwede ma-pressure yung ating mga
46:26.6
legislators na
46:27.8
gawin po yung tama.
46:30.3
In the meantime,
46:31.7
eh, let's focus on
46:32.7
possibly small victories
46:34.0
that we can achieve, no?
46:35.5
At sa akin lang,
46:36.1
ito po yung iiwan ko
46:37.0
advice sa inyo.
46:38.3
Maingat po kayo doon
46:39.2
sa mga kandidato
46:40.5
nakabago-bago lalo.
46:42.0
Okay?
46:42.3
Okay.
46:42.4
Itatayo na po
46:43.1
ng dynasties.
46:45.6
Oo.
46:46.0
Gusto nyo po bang
46:46.7
pangalanan natin?
46:48.5
Ito, example lang, no?
46:50.2
Manny Pacquiao,
46:51.1
paborito po nating
46:51.9
boxer yan.
46:52.8
I'm a big boxing fan.
46:54.5
Gustong-gusto ko po
46:55.2
si Pacquiao.
46:56.5
Magaling po yan
46:57.1
na boksingero.
46:58.1
The only 8th division
46:59.2
champion
47:00.8
in the history
47:02.0
of boxing
47:03.1
so far.
47:04.2
And most likely,
47:05.1
hindi po yan ma,
47:06.4
ma,
47:07.2
mapapantayan
47:08.1
for so many years.
47:10.5
O.
47:11.1
Diba, nung una pumasok
47:12.1
sa puli,
47:12.4
sa politika yan,
47:13.6
tingnan nyo.
47:14.7
Kamag-anak,
47:15.6
pinapatakbo din.
47:17.2
Kung mga kabago-bago
47:18.1
sa politika,
47:18.9
nagtatayo ng dynastiya.
47:20.7
Another example,
47:21.9
yung mga Tulfo.
47:23.8
Kabago-bago
47:24.5
sa politika,
47:26.4
ilan silang Tulfo
47:27.1
na nakaupo ngayon?
47:29.5
Huwag na tayong lumayo.
47:32.8
Mga Metro Manila,
47:33.7
ilan po yung
47:34.3
dynasties na meron dito?
47:36.8
Sino po yung
47:37.2
dynasties sa Las Piñas,
47:38.7
for instance?
47:40.0
O.
47:40.9
Dynasties sa
47:42.4
San Juan,
47:43.7
natanggal kasing dynasty
47:44.7
ng mga Estrada
47:45.4
dahil nanalo yung Zamora, no?
47:47.4
It remains to be seen
47:48.8
kung
47:49.3
masyado pa kasing bata
47:51.2
yung mga anak
47:51.7
ng Mayor Francis Zamora, no?
47:53.1
Para mag-dynastie.
47:54.2
Pero yung tatay niya,
47:55.3
diba, congressman din
47:56.3
dati
47:56.9
habang siya ay
47:58.5
vice mayor.
47:59.5
So, nandun din yung
48:00.2
tendencies.
48:02.2
Marami yan, no?
48:03.4
Kaya nga minsan,
48:04.4
pag nakakausap natin
48:05.7
yung mga
48:06.2
mas maalam sa issue na ito,
48:08.0
yung mga political scientists,
48:09.9
the likes of
48:10.4
Dr. Julio Tejanki,
48:11.8
eh,
48:12.4
na malawak po yung pag-aaral
48:13.7
na ginawa dyan,
48:16.0
hindi sapat na
48:16.6
anti-political
48:18.7
dynasty law
48:19.5
lang ang ating ipas, eh.
48:20.7
Kailangan natin
48:21.3
package of reforms,
48:22.8
no?
48:23.2
And some of them
48:24.0
might be easier to achieve,
48:26.0
others might even be
48:27.1
more difficult.
48:29.5
Ano ba yung mas mahirap
48:30.3
i-achieve dyan, for instance?
48:31.6
Siguro yung anti-political
48:32.5
dynasty pre-law,
48:33.6
medyo mahirap yan.
48:34.7
Ano ba yung mas
48:35.3
siguro madaling
48:36.1
makamit dyan?
48:38.0
Eh, baka yung
48:38.4
anti-party switching,
48:39.7
yung anti-balimbing law,
48:40.6
baka mas mabiris.
48:41.9
Tingnan natin,
48:42.4
oo.
48:43.3
Maraming ano yan, eh.
48:44.4
Maraming paraan
48:46.1
to change the rules
48:47.4
of the game.
48:48.8
Ako nga alam nyo,
48:49.4
part of me
48:50.0
is actually in favor of
48:51.5
the proposal
48:53.1
to elect senators
48:54.6
per region.
48:56.8
Imagine nyo ba
48:57.5
kung per region
48:58.1
ang pagboto ng ating
48:59.2
mga senador?
49:00.8
Example lang yan, oh.
49:02.8
Eh, mapipilitan yung
49:03.8
mga dynasties
49:05.0
per region
49:05.7
na magsama
49:06.7
o mag-compete
49:08.1
among each other
49:09.5
para isa o dalawa lang
49:11.3
mag-emerge sa kanila.
49:12.4
Yung nga lang,
49:13.5
hindi gugustuhin nyo
49:14.2
ng mga dynasties
49:15.0
kasi bilangin nyo yung dynasties
49:16.2
for instance sa Metro Manila.
49:17.9
Imagine nyo,
49:18.4
kung nga rin mag-eelect
49:19.1
ng isa o dalawang senador
49:20.4
sa Metro Manila.
49:21.7
Eh, baka magpatayin
49:22.6
yung mga dynasties dyan.
49:23.8
Diba?
49:24.4
Pero, again,
49:25.7
sinasabi nila dyan,
49:26.9
if you change the rules
49:27.7
of the game,
49:28.7
you can change the behavior
49:29.7
of our politicians
49:31.0
and also the electorate.
49:33.3
So, mahabang discussion po yan.
49:36.1
Kaya nga minsan,
49:37.3
eh, simulan nyo nalang po.
49:40.1
Again, to be fair,
49:41.0
may mga good dynasties
49:42.2
at may mga bad dynasties.
49:44.2
Pero, in the long run kasi,
49:46.1
even the good ones
49:47.1
limit the opportunities
49:48.4
for other people to serve.
49:50.8
Yun po ang point doon.
49:52.1
Especially,
49:53.8
if they,
49:55.1
even if they are good dynasties,
49:57.4
still control the rules of the game.
49:59.5
That's the sad part of it.
50:02.0
Ayan.
50:04.1
Napakabato rin yung
50:05.1
komentaryo ko, no?
50:07.9
Teka lang,
50:08.6
palitan nyo natin itong ano.
50:10.2
Ayan.
50:12.2
Pangalan nalang ilagay natin.
50:14.2
Sensya na kaya,
50:14.9
medyo na-carried away ako dyan
50:16.0
kasi natagal na natin
50:17.6
tinututukan yung issue
50:18.7
ng political dynasties.
50:21.6
Ayan.
50:22.0
Kasi gagapal naman talaga
50:23.0
ng pagmumuka
50:23.6
ng ilang mga dynasties natin.
50:26.1
Para bang sila lang
50:27.0
yung pwedeng,
50:27.6
parang sila lang yung pwedeng,
50:29.5
sila lang yung may karapatan
50:30.6
at sila lang yung magaling.
50:33.2
Ayan.
50:34.1
Grabe.
50:35.9
Greetings muna tayo.
50:38.2
Kaya Ramon Cruz
50:39.8
watching from San Francisco,
50:41.5
California.
50:42.2
Tapos si Dignak King,
50:44.1
shoutout sa mga New Yorkers.
50:46.1
Wow.
50:46.6
Nanonood po sila ng
50:47.5
Facts First.
50:48.1
Dun sa mga naiinis agad.
50:50.4
Pag nadedelay lang ng konti
50:51.9
ang pagstart ng Facts First.
50:53.5
Watching live from New York.
50:56.4
Yung mga nagagalit eh.
50:58.0
Minsan may nagme-message.
50:59.3
Ano ba?
50:59.9
Late na naman.
51:01.0
Pasensya na kayo.
51:01.8
Minsan technical issues eh.
51:02.9
Tsaka pagkibulihang topic natin eh.
51:04.7
Mukha napapastop yung ating streaming eh.
51:07.0
Napapansin ko yan eh.
51:08.1
Hindi pa tayo nagkaroon
51:08.9
ng hayahay na
51:10.0
internet connection
51:11.8
pag
51:12.2
kibuloy yung topic natin.
51:14.0
Malapit na akong maniwala
51:15.3
na talagang powerful
51:16.4
ang
51:16.7
appointed son of God.
51:19.5
Okay?
51:20.6
Merong comments
51:21.7
si ang ating kaklase.
51:23.5
Ang napakagaling
51:24.3
ng mag-Ingles.
51:25.7
At panagsulat po siya
51:26.6
ng English.
51:27.5
Impeccable.
51:28.9
Si Eugene Keeler.
51:29.8
Would it be fair to say then
51:31.0
that there is a lack of
51:32.5
delikadesa?
51:34.2
Sinabi mo.
51:35.5
Ano ba yung delikadesa?
51:37.5
Kung politiko ka,
51:38.9
ano ba yung delikadesa?
51:40.1
Nakakain ba yun?
51:41.5
Ayan.
51:42.2
Ano?
51:42.7
Oliver,
51:43.6
you're welcome.
51:44.7
Thank you raw sa greetings
51:45.7
last March 16.
51:47.9
Walang anuman.
51:49.5
Ito nga pala, no.
51:50.4
Pag-usapan natin ng konti
51:51.5
bago tayo magtapos.
51:52.4
Yung silver lining.
51:53.8
Akala kasi natin
51:54.7
dahil nga
51:55.4
ang ating kongreso
51:56.6
ay dominado
51:57.5
ng mga
51:58.6
political dynasties.
52:00.8
Tingnan nyo lang yung pangalan, no?
52:02.0
Tingnan nyo lang yung pangalan
52:02.9
ng ano?
52:03.9
Ng roster ng ano?
52:05.6
Yung roster ng ating mga
52:07.1
kongresista.
52:08.9
Yung member ng mababang kapulungan
52:10.3
at saka nung ating senado.
52:12.2
Pare-pareho yung apelido, no?
52:14.6
For instance,
52:15.3
the first time I covered
52:16.3
the House of Representatives
52:17.7
as a reporter,
52:18.6
I think that was
52:19.5
in 2006-2007.
52:23.5
Yung mga inabuta
52:24.5
kong politiko roon,
52:25.9
eventually,
52:26.7
nalipat ako ng coverage,
52:28.2
napunta ako sa iba,
52:29.2
Malacanang,
52:30.1
Senate.
52:31.5
Yung mga time na bumalik ako
52:32.6
sa House,
52:33.2
sabi ko,
52:34.9
ah,
52:35.5
interviewin ko nga to
52:36.3
si ganito
52:36.7
kasi pamilya niyo
52:37.5
yung apelido eh.
52:39.3
Pagtingin ko,
52:40.0
yun pala,
52:40.6
iba na yung nakaupo,
52:41.8
tatay na
52:42.6
o kaya anak na.
52:43.8
Sabi ko,
52:44.1
ah, ganun ba?
52:45.3
Kaya minsan pa,
52:45.8
nakausap ko,
52:46.4
ano, cover ko po yung tatay niyo.
52:47.8
O kaya, ah, sir,
52:48.3
naka-cover ko po yung anak niyo
52:49.3
ng time na yun.
52:49.9
Nagpapalit-palit ka.
52:51.4
O, tingnan nyo lang dyan
52:52.3
sa Metro Manila
52:56.5
tsaka sa many,
52:57.3
many parts of the Philippines,
52:58.9
diba?
52:59.3
Pag yung mayor,
52:59.8
nakatatlong termino na,
53:01.3
nine years,
53:02.1
papatakbo yung si misis,
53:04.4
siya naman yung magbabise,
53:05.5
tapos si misis yung magme-mayor.
53:07.4
O, minsan yung anak,
53:08.2
diba?
53:08.3
Lalayo pa ba tayo?
53:09.9
Tingnan nyo yung ginawa nila
53:10.6
Duterte sa Davao City.
53:12.1
O, di na umalis sa pwesto yun, ah.
53:14.4
Diba?
53:15.2
O, Duterte,
53:16.2
tapos Sara,
53:17.0
diba, nag-vice pa si Digong.
53:18.8
O ngayon, sino mayor?
53:20.3
Si Baste.
53:21.9
Hmm.
53:22.9
Hindi talaga papakawalan yung posisyon.
53:24.7
Kasi posisyon yan, eh.
53:26.3
O.
53:28.3
Okay.
53:31.2
Shout-out kay Edgar Ines.
53:33.8
Ayan, maraming salamat sa'yo.
53:35.5
Ayan.
53:36.0
Si Donsky Graho,
53:37.0
maraming salamat sa'yo.
53:39.0
O.
53:39.8
Sino pa ba?
53:42.0
Anthony Clarine,
53:43.3
maraming salamat sa'yo.
53:44.3
Watching from Dubai.
53:46.3
O.
53:47.0
O, napakaraming dynasties dyan.
53:48.8
O.
53:56.0
Minsan ngayon, diba kayo na, ano,
53:57.9
napapaisip?
53:59.2
Diba madalas magbiyayang ating mahal na Pangulong Bongbong Marcos?
54:02.1
O, madalas kasama, diba,
54:03.2
yung Speaker of the House na pinsa niya.
54:05.3
Kasama yung
54:06.1
kanyang anak.
54:08.3
Na mukhang ginugroom for a higher post.
54:10.8
Kaso hindi pa pwedeng tumakbo
54:11.9
sa pagkasenador dahil medyo bata pa, no?
54:15.2
Hindi pa niya mamimit yung
54:16.5
35 years old na age requirement.
54:20.9
Pero alam mo, binibuild up, eh.
54:22.5
Diba?
54:23.1
Talagang nilalagay dyan sa
54:24.2
national and international stage.
54:28.8
O.
54:30.5
Diba, ano ba kayo napapaisip?
54:32.0
Ano kayo iniisip ng mga namimit nilang mga
54:33.9
foreign leaders sa kanilang foreign trip?
54:35.8
Diba, kunwari, papakilala.
54:37.1
Mr. President, diba?
54:40.2
Kunwari, Ferdinand Bongbong Marcos Jr.
54:43.5
By the way, this is my,
54:45.7
this is our house speaker,
54:48.3
Ferdinand Martin Romualdes.
54:51.0
Siyempre,
54:51.7
gire-research naman yung mga kausap nila.
54:53.4
Ah, pinsan.
54:54.8
And this is our congressman,
54:57.2
Sandro Marcos.
54:59.2
Uy, anak!
55:01.1
Tapos, diba, bisan, kunwari,
55:02.8
kasama yung anak ng speaker, na congressista rin,
55:04.8
si Yeda Marie.
55:07.1
Diba, napapaisip yung mga nakakausap
55:08.9
na mga politiko?
55:10.2
Ano ito? Family trip?
55:13.1
Iyan lang naman.
55:14.2
Siguro naman, pwede i-comment yun, no?
55:15.6
Totoo naman yung sinasabi ko.
55:17.1
Okay?
55:18.2
O, sige.
55:21.3
Maraming salamat sa inyo.
55:23.2
Oo.
55:25.5
Sige, si Feli.
55:27.5
Shout out from Penang, Malaysia.
55:30.7
Ayan.
55:32.5
Sabi ni G,
55:33.3
eh, salamat sa mahabang
55:35.5
paliwala.
55:37.1
Wanag.
55:39.1
Ako, aminsan, ano,
55:40.4
dami kong sinasabi, no?
55:42.1
Iyo, gusto ko kasi yung topic na ito, ano.
55:44.7
Isa nga, paboran na ako rin sa ano, eh.
55:46.7
Actually,
55:47.6
ang sinasabi ng iba,
55:49.9
ang dynasty, kunwari, sa isang lugar,
55:52.0
pare pa yung, kunwari,
55:53.3
mayor, governor,
55:54.8
congressional seat,
55:56.0
hawak ng mga
55:56.7
magkakapamilya, no?
56:00.1
Okay na nga, for instance,
56:01.6
isang kandidato
56:02.7
na kamag-anak mo
56:04.7
for a national position,
56:06.0
okay na yun.
56:07.1
Tapos, yung isa, siguro, tumatakbo
56:08.6
for a local position.
56:09.7
Ako, agree na ako ron, eh.
56:11.9
Diba?
56:13.1
Para lang
56:14.1
makapagsimula somewhere.
56:16.0
Hmm.
56:17.9
Ayan.
56:19.3
Eh,
56:20.5
kaso, ganun, eh.
56:22.4
Hmm.
56:24.3
Ang suggestion ko na lang, kung sakaling kayo
56:26.2
maupo
56:27.2
sa isang elective position in the future,
56:29.5
eh, sana yung mga pinag-uusapan natin dito
56:32.3
na mali,
56:33.1
huwag niyong gagawin.
56:35.1
No?
56:36.0
Maging,
56:37.1
gumawa kayo ng tama.
56:39.0
Kanina, ano,
56:40.6
ah,
56:42.3
ah, tama yan to.
56:43.3
Sabi ni
56:43.9
Callagher,
56:45.4
what about the role of media?
56:47.0
Tama yan.
56:47.4
Totoo yan.
56:48.3
Malaki pa yung role ng media
56:49.5
to, to generate,
56:51.3
ah,
56:53.3
public support,
56:55.0
ah, let's say,
56:55.7
for political and electoral reforms.
56:58.1
Eh, sana lang talaga,
56:58.9
tutukan din, no?
56:59.8
Eh, kasi di naman ganun katinding
57:01.1
pagkakatutok din ng, ah,
57:02.7
ibang mga kasama natin sa media
57:04.1
for issues like this.
57:05.7
Kumaga, pinag-uusapan lang
57:06.6
political dynamics,
57:07.1
usually pag malapit
57:08.3
pag-eleksyon, eh, no?
57:09.3
By the time, too late na, eh.
57:10.4
Ano pong,
57:10.9
ano pong magagawa nun?
57:12.4
Kung pinag-uusapan mo yung
57:13.3
pag-reforma sa ating sistema
57:14.6
ng politika
57:15.2
tsaka eleksyon,
57:16.4
eh, kung pag-uusapan mo lang siya
57:17.6
pag malapit na sa eleksyon.
57:19.3
At ito pa po, ano,
57:20.1
pasensya na,
57:20.7
haba ng aking komentaryo.
57:23.1
Alam niyo po ba,
57:24.3
yung tinatawag na
57:25.1
political patronage na yan,
57:27.1
eramdam din po yan sa media.
57:29.3
Hmm.
57:30.2
Meron din po kasi tayong
57:31.1
mga kapatid sa media
57:32.7
na pag nag-cover ng politiko,
57:34.9
ang tingin na sa politiko,
57:35.9
sa Diyos.
57:37.5
Pamihingi na rin ng mga
57:38.4
sangkatutak na pabor,
57:40.5
ilang pagkakataon,
57:42.6
pera, di ba?
57:44.3
Tapos, talagang halos
57:46.2
ipaangkin na rin
57:47.7
yung kanilang kaluluwa
57:49.0
pag nabigyan sila ng pabor.
57:51.6
Ibig sabihin,
57:51.9
yung political patronage
57:53.2
does not
57:54.5
skip
57:56.5
in terms of influence,
57:58.6
members of the media.
57:59.8
Nandun din yan, eh.
58:01.1
Hmm.
58:03.6
Di ba?
58:04.0
Kaya,
58:05.9
ganun, eh.
58:13.2
Hindi ko mind din
58:14.2
yung ibang comment.
58:15.8
Tama, may isang nag-comment dito.
58:18.0
Tama yung sinabi mo.
58:19.3
Hmm.
58:19.6
Totoo yan.
58:21.7
Yang reporter na yan.
58:23.2
Ganyan talaga yan.
58:25.6
Totoo yan.
58:26.4
Ayoko nang banggitin.
58:27.1
Nadami pa kaaway ko, eh.
58:28.5
Hmm.
58:28.9
Okay.
58:30.0
Sige, maraming salamat po
58:31.2
sa inyong lahat.
58:32.9
Meron po tayong special guest.
58:34.7
Magkakaroon po tayo
58:35.5
ng special guest.
58:35.8
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.
58:35.9
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.
58:35.9
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.
58:35.9
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.
58:36.0
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.
59:05.9
Magkakaroon po tayo ng special guest.


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