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00:01.0
Alright, yan. Magandang araw mga kabatas natin at welcome sa isa ng mga livestream.
00:08.0
Mga kabatas natin, it's true. Okay? Totoong-totoo po.
00:15.0
Itong si Arnolfo Tevez ay nahuli na po.
00:20.5
At tignan natin mga kabatas natin at tignan natin kung ano na yung mangyayari dito.
00:25.1
Nagsalita na rin mga kabatas natin si Bongbong Marcos tungkol dito.
00:28.1
Ngayon, pag-uusapan din natin yung extradition at rendition na pinag-uusapan din doon kay Pastor Kibuloy.
00:37.2
Alam nyo kasi mga kabatas natin, magandang ibangga natin ito doon sa pwedeng mangyayari kay Pastor Kibuloy
00:45.7
because this is about international cooperation. Okay?
00:50.4
International police enforcement.
00:54.2
Okay? Ganun yung nangyayari dito.
00:55.8
So, tignan natin mga kabatas natin.
00:57.8
Sabi dito, no, yung Department of Justice mga kabatas natin inaresto na nga si Tevez Jr.
01:05.3
Sabi niya ganyan, si Tevez ay inaresto ng Scientific and Criminal Investigation Police in Dili, East Timor
01:13.3
at around 4 in the afternoon while playing at Topgolf Driving Range and Bar.
01:20.4
So, anong makukuha natin dyan?
01:24.7
Anong pwede natin i-assume dyan mga kabatas natin?
01:27.8
Well, obviously, we can assume that Tevez actually is not hiding.
01:37.0
Tapos, he doesn't know what is happening.
01:42.0
Kasi nga mga kabatas natin, if Tevez is aware that the Interpol or the SCIC, PCIC pala, sorry.
01:54.0
The PCIC, mga kabatas natin, is going after him, magtatago yan.
02:01.9
Diba? Magtatago yan.
02:04.1
Pero hindi siya nagtatago mga kabatas natin.
02:06.9
Nandun siya sa isang public place.
02:08.5
Nagrararo siya ng golf.
02:12.1
And of course, mga kabatas natin, hindi naman malalaman agad ng mga tao kung nasaan siya.
02:18.3
At hindi naman malalaman agad ng mga tao sa East Timor kung sino siya.
02:23.1
If it is without the cooperation of the Philippines.
02:32.0
Tama yung sinabi ni Chris Tito dito.
02:35.9
Hindi niya alam kung ano yung mga nangyari dyan.
02:38.7
Nahuli na lang siya.
02:39.5
Kasi nandun siya sa isang public place.
02:42.8
He's not even in his house.
02:46.9
Sabing ganyan, dito mga kabatas natin yun, siya yung sinasabing mastermind kasi sa pagpatay kay Ruel de Gamo.
02:53.1
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
02:55.4
Tapos, umalis siya sa country for medical reasons.
03:02.1
Tapos, refused to return and sought asylum in East Timor.
03:06.0
So, ano na rin ang makukuha natin dito mga kabatas natin na nangyari?
03:11.8
Hindi gumana yung asylum.
03:15.9
Ano ba kasi yung asylum mga kabatas natin?
03:17.8
Asylum is when you seek refuge or protection from a country.
03:23.1
If you are under political prosecution or persecution.
03:28.0
Hindi prosecution, okay?
03:31.4
So, hinihingi ito ni Tevez.
03:35.4
Sabi naman ng DOJ noon, it did not work and East Timor did not give him political asylum.
03:42.7
Kaya nga, East Timor mismo ang kasama sa paghuli sa kanya.
03:48.6
Ano pa ang pwede nating...
03:50.5
Ano pa ang pwede nating tignan dito mga kabatas natin?
03:54.6
It happened even prior to movement of the extradition proceedings.
04:07.8
Even prior to extradition proceedings,
04:17.6
Can that happen to Pastor Kiboloy also?
04:23.3
Of course, if mga kabatas natin, President Bongbong Marcos will cooperate with the U.S.
04:33.4
Pero mga kabatas natin, President Bongbong Marcos is very clear as to his position
04:41.4
at hindi pa siya nagbabago mga kabatas natin na hindi niya tatangkilikin.
04:50.5
Yung kahit anuman na gagawin kung hindi ito dadaan sa mga tamang proseso.
05:01.3
Extradition proceedings.
05:02.3
Otherwise, mga kabatas natin, sinabi niya naman na yan eh.
05:05.7
Otherwise, sinabi niya na yan na,
05:07.7
O sige, huliin niyo na.
05:11.6
Makipag-cooperate na yung Department of Justice.
05:15.9
Papasukin na yung Interpol dito.
05:19.0
Makipag-cooperate na tayo.
05:19.9
I-turnover na, huliin na yan.
05:22.9
Ang mangyayari kasi dito mga kabatas natin,
05:25.0
accordingly, ngayon na nahuli na siya,
05:28.4
they will now initiate extradition proceedings.
05:35.8
Yun nga yung ito turn over na yung jurisdiction dito kay Tevez.
05:43.4
Ngayon mga kabatas natin, ang hindi ko maintindihan,
05:45.8
I'm not an expert here, okay?
05:47.8
I want us, I want,
05:51.2
I want all of us to learn here.
05:54.7
Kung kaya pala naman yung ganyan,
05:56.6
tapos nahuli na siya,
05:58.3
actually, you don't need an extradition.
06:02.1
You can deport him.
06:06.8
I-deport na lang siya,
06:08.5
sasalubungin na lang siya dito sa Pilipinas.
06:15.5
Sabi dito ni DOJ Secretary,
06:18.5
today's apprehension of Tevez,
06:19.9
is a testament to the power of international cooperation.
06:24.5
It sends a clear message that no terrorist can evade justice.
06:29.2
Alam niyo, sa tingin ko, ito yung ano eh,
06:31.1
ito yung smart move eh,
06:35.2
ng Department of Justice eh.
06:38.5
Yung dineclare nila na terrorist itong si Tevez.
06:41.8
Kasi nga mga kabatas natin,
06:43.3
terrorist mga kabatas natin is an international crime.
06:49.4
tapos dahil sa international crime yan,
06:51.7
mga kabatas natin,
06:52.9
it is also interjurisdiksyonal.
06:55.9
Yung mga terrorists na yan.
06:58.9
The crackdown on terrorists,
07:00.6
mga kabatas natin,
07:03.1
every government wants to participate in it.
07:08.7
hindi naman alam talaga ng East Timor
07:10.9
kung ano yung kwento dito sa Pilipinas.
07:14.0
Kung ano yung nangyari
07:15.0
at kung ano yung pinagsimulan
07:16.6
nung ganyan kay Tevez.
07:18.3
Pero, mga kabatas natin,
07:19.4
if you tell them,
07:20.8
Tevez is a terrorist.
07:25.5
Tevez is a terrorist.
07:28.2
maririnig ng presidente ng East Timor yun.
07:33.3
ng Department of Justice nila,
07:41.4
Delikado yan dito.
07:43.2
That is an unwanted alien.
07:45.1
So, what will they do?
07:46.9
They will crack him down.
07:52.0
Mang Renesa Kalambuti na lang,
07:54.6
hindi ako terrorist.
08:00.2
Flagas terrorist, may init ka.
08:01.7
That, I think, is their special move there.
08:06.7
If you're declared as a terrorist,
08:09.7
yun na lang ang sasabihin mo sa
08:11.2
ibang jurisdiction eh.
08:15.8
Magtatanong pa ba sila?
08:17.9
Titingin na lang sila ng mga dokumento.
08:19.4
Patingin nga ng document
08:22.9
kung bakit terorista ito.
08:26.3
Is it an official document?
08:30.7
Meron kayong batas.
08:32.2
Itong nag-declare na terrorist yan,
08:34.2
ito ba ay yung tama
08:35.4
na government organization
08:39.5
para mag-declare na terrorist siya?
08:44.0
Yun lang ang titignan nila.
08:49.2
it's like applying,
08:51.3
it's like applying for
08:55.3
Pag nag-a-apply ka ng visa,
08:56.7
mga kabatas natin,
08:57.5
titignan lang naman nila talaga
08:59.0
kung legit yung mga documents mo.
09:02.9
Tapos, pag na-satisfy mo
09:04.5
kung ano yung gusto nilang makita,
09:07.5
then may isyohan ka ng visa.
09:12.5
walang bayan na gusto magkaroon ng terrorist
09:19.2
So, ipakita mo lang
09:21.1
na terrorist nga yan
09:22.7
government documents,
09:25.3
they will accept it
09:28.1
because they don't have
09:29.1
personal knowledge
09:29.8
and it's part of respect
09:31.4
between jurisdictions.
09:38.2
It's part of respect
09:39.5
between jurisdictions.
09:43.0
many people are trying
09:46.4
na parang sandali,
09:47.6
wala pang extradition eh.
09:49.2
Wala man lang rendition.
09:59.3
terrorist na yan.
10:10.0
But if you try to make sense
10:23.4
that it's because he is
10:25.6
declared as a terrorist.
10:38.8
It sends a clear message
10:40.7
that no terrorist
10:41.6
can evade justice
10:42.9
and that nations stand
10:44.2
united in safeguarding
10:45.9
the safety and security
10:47.2
of their citizens.
10:48.6
That's a very smart move.
10:53.8
Declaring him as a terrorist.
10:57.4
Isipin nyo kasi ito,
10:58.5
mga kapatid natin.
10:59.7
Ang terorista kasi,
11:01.3
nire-recognize yan na criminal
11:02.7
kahit saan ka pumunta.
11:04.4
Malistahan yan eh.
11:06.9
Katulad nung Al-Qaeda.
11:08.7
Pag Al-Qaeda yan,
11:09.6
terorista na yan eh.
11:11.0
Kasi dineclare na nga
11:11.9
ng mga maraming bansa
11:13.1
na terorista yan eh.
11:18.6
To apprehend them.
11:21.7
All you have to prove
11:22.7
is they're a terrorist.
11:23.9
They're a member of the Al-Qaeda.
11:28.9
terrorists are very dangerous people.
11:33.1
without any reason at all.
11:35.2
They just want to spread fear.
11:38.3
Kaya nga terrorist eh.
11:40.8
Gusto na nilang mag-terrorize.
11:42.2
Wala naman silang pakialam
11:43.5
kung meron silang pinaglalaban
11:49.3
Tama yung sinabi niya, ano?
11:52.2
That's the worst kind of criminal.
11:58.6
nagkaroon kasi siya ng red notice
12:00.5
from the Interpol.
12:03.7
Alam na natin yung red notice na yan.
12:06.3
Under the custody of Timor's police
12:08.4
while his extradition to the Philippines
12:10.4
is being worked out by the National Central Bureau.
12:14.4
Dili, in coordination
12:15.6
with the NCB Manila and Philippine Embassy,
12:20.6
So I think itong sinasabi nilang extradition dito,
12:23.2
dahil nahuli na siya,
12:24.2
magiging mabilis na rin lang yan.
12:27.3
Kasi nahuli na siya eh.
12:29.3
So I think it will just be a matter of...
12:31.5
I think it will take the form of a deportation
12:34.8
instead of an extradition.
12:39.9
Kasi nga, I think you don't need to go through
12:41.7
the extradition process anymore.
12:43.8
Yung conversation between the parties
12:45.8
because he's already...
12:48.2
He's already arrested.
12:50.5
And just like in the Philippines,
12:53.4
we have the capacity to decide
12:56.3
if the foreigner can stay here or not.
13:00.9
Naalala nyo yung pinaliwanag ko sa inyo,
13:02.4
mga kabatas natin.
13:05.4
through the Bureau of Immigration,
13:08.7
if any foreigner,
13:10.9
if any foreigner is wanted or unwanted here.
13:19.1
Hindi maganda pala comparison yun.
13:21.4
Unwanted or desired.
13:24.6
Kasi mga kabatas natin,
13:25.9
ito lang sinabi ko,
13:26.7
it's upon the discretion
13:27.8
of the Bureau of Immigration.
13:30.1
Sa mga foreigners,
13:31.2
kung sasabihin nila
13:32.1
pwede ka dito o hindi ka pwede dito.
13:34.5
Pag sinabi nila unwanted alien ka,
13:40.5
na unwanted alien ka,
13:42.5
ay mababaw yung dahilan,
13:46.3
wala ka magagawa.
13:50.0
hindi mo naman karapatan tumira dito.
13:53.4
Hindi mo karapatan tumira dito sa Pilipinas.
13:56.3
It's a mere privilege
13:57.6
to stay here in the Philippines
14:01.5
if you're a foreigner
14:02.5
so they can kick you out anytime they want
14:04.9
if they think you are unwanted.
14:10.2
Tama yung sinabi niya Rico.
14:11.5
It's discretionary.
14:14.0
So ganun din sa kanila,
14:16.2
So anong gagawin lang?
14:21.2
Katulad ng mga nakakasuhan dito sa Pilipinas,
14:24.0
ng mga foreigners,
14:27.6
nandyan pa sa kulungan.
14:29.8
Pero yung mga iba,
14:32.6
pag natapos na yung kaso.
14:37.6
tapos due for deportation,
14:38.7
o may kasong deportation,
14:41.6
Even the next day,
14:43.5
Even without a hearing,
14:55.3
Sabi ni Brian Lloyd Paliega,
14:57.5
tanong lang attorney kung Filipino
14:59.2
ang nirecognized na terrorist ng ibang bansa,
15:03.2
forced ba ang PH na ihatid sa bansang yun ang terrorist?
15:07.7
Hindi naman puwersahan.
15:09.8
They cannot force the people of the Philippines
15:13.6
to crack down on the Philippines.
15:16.1
They cannot force the people of the Philippines to crack down on the Philippines.
15:16.2
They cannot force the people of the Philippines to crack down on the Philippines.
15:16.3
They cannot force the people of the Philippines to crack down on the Philippines.
15:16.3
They cannot force the people of the Philippines.
15:17.5
Kaya lang mga kabatas natin,
15:18.8
anong nangyayari kasi dyan,
15:19.7
katulad nung nangyayari kay Marwan,
15:28.0
purely by the Philippines
15:29.8
to neutralize those terrorists.
15:35.6
Pag titignan nyo,
15:36.5
mga kabatas natin,
15:37.5
mga ano naman eh,
15:38.5
sub-44 natin yung lumaban dun eh.
15:42.6
against an international terrorist.
15:46.2
Ngayon kasi mga kabatas natin, yung nangyari doon, declared din na terrorist itong si Marwan sa Amerika at saka sa ibang jurisdiction at sila ay nagbibigay ng reward doon sa mga tao na o kahit sino, kahit polis, kahit gobyerno o kahit sino mga kabatas natin, sila ay nagbibigay ng reward.
16:16.2
Para magkaroon ka ng konsuelo, di bobo? O kaya, well, yung term na reward kapag ikaw ay magka-crackdown o manghuhuli ng terorista.
16:31.7
They cannot force you. They cannot force you. But they can offer rewards para magkaroon ka ng konsuelo, di bobo?
16:46.2
Tama rin. Good thing naalala mo, Dente. Besides, Tevez's passport was already cancelled from my recollection, thus making him an undocumented person in the host country. Yes.
16:56.2
So ano mangyayari sa kanya? Deport!
17:07.4
Sabi niya, the capture of Tevez only proves that through concerted efforts and determination, terrorism can be thwarted and peace preserved.
17:16.2
Yan. Yan na, mga kabatas natin.
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Maraming salamat. At syempre, sana may natutunan tayong pareho.
17:26.3
At syempre, tulad ng laging sinasabi, matulog po tayo ng mahimbing dahil alam natin, sa inyong natutulog ng mahimbing, siya yung laging panalo.
